• expired

BYD Dolphin: Dynamic $36,890 (Was $38,890), Premium $42,890 (Was $44,890) + On Road Costs @ BYD

3251

BYD Australia have lowered pricing on the BYD Dolphin hatchback by $2000 across the board.

Prices:

BYD Dolphin Dynamic = $36,890 before onroad costs (and select state EV subsidies)
BYD Dolphin Premium = $42,890 before onroads costs (and select state EV subsidies)

Battery:

BYD exclusively use their own in house BYD Blade LFP batteries.
These have benefits over NMC and NCA batteries as they do not contain Cobalt or Nickle.
They have a greatly reduced chance of thermal runaway occuring.
They can be fully charged up to 100% repeatedly with far less degradation issues occurring compared to NMC and NCA batteries commonly used in other EV's.

Warranty

6 Years on the car
8 Years on the battery

Brochure PDF which includes spec/equipment breakdown:

https://bydautomotive.com.au/brochures/BYD-DOLPHIN-2023.pdf

Related Stores

BYD Automotive
BYD Automotive

closed Comments

  • +147

    Waiting for a 20% cashback from shopback, wont be long at this rate

    • +3

      Not enough, need at least 30% in addition to a free lifetime EV charging pass

      • +87

        100% cashback but capped at $10 :)

        • +2

          Ozmonkeyspaw

        • And via blah blah bank

        • -6

          $10 discount sounds like Apple.
          Chinese brands have superior engineering for much less. 15% better than Tesla & 30% better than EU manufacturers - say Swiss UBS engineers.
          New BYD phEVs can drive 2,100 km non-stop :)
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgmDiWfZJcI

          • @taki:

            New BYD phEVs can drive 2,100 km non-stop :)

            LOL!

            Didn't the Toyota Prius 1990's TV add (USA) boasted that? And much more :-)

            And about +30 years later we are still there …

            LOL!

      • +11

        Easy! Novating is a 30% cash back from the ATO.
        Then claim charging back through the ATO and the end of FBT year. Electricity cost me $160 last year for my EV and the ATO gave me $500 back for my troubles. Better than a lifetime charging pass.

        • +1

          30% don't you mean 47% + medicare 2% + maybe the Childcare subisdy amount you pay is increased too?

          • +1

            @FoxJump: 47% includes Medicare, but also not everyone is on the top bracket and you are not really saving 47% due to fees/interest.

          • +4

            @FoxJump: I thought 47% was the standard ozbargain tax bracket

            • @boretentsu: exactly!
              ok so 45% + 2%, plus - and this is questionable, if you have kids in childcare and are receiving the childcare subsidy; then i think that as your taxable income drops, then the CCS benefit goes up, and i think novated leases do modify the adjusted taxable income because there is FBT payable - either because an EV, or because of the Employee contribution method zeros out the payable FBT>

              • +1

                @FoxJump: I picked 30% as its the new income tax bracket from 1 July of the average person. It's a handy rule of thumb. If you are in a higher bracket the savings are obviously greater.
                Yes you pay interest on the car loan (pre tax) but this is somewhat offset by freeing up cash for your mortgage.
                Then there's CCS considerations, marginal differences in insurance etc, but nothing compares to the tax savings.
                Everyone's circumstances are different - talk to your accountant.

                • +3

                  @sammyjj: ofc i was just doing the @boretentsu implication that everyone here is on the top tax bracket :)

                  i'll get an EV one day, both my cars are 5yo atm and so theyre good for another 7yrs at least

                  • @FoxJump: This is the way. The real bargain is getting a car that lasts a long time.

        • Electricity cost me $160 last year for my EV

          Was all of it for business use, or does it not matter?

          • @bio: All personal use.

            • @sammyjj: How does that work? Also what is your balloon payment? Could be a lot more than the electric car value at the end of the lease given the rate of depreciation

              • +2

                @Sammyboy: Top of memory, $85k driveway for 2023 Ioniq 5 (when new) over 4 years will have a residual of $32k based on the ATO schedule. I reckon I’ll be able to recover that. Even if it was a few thousand $ gap post tax, it’s cheap compared to the overall income tax savings. If it’s more than $32k I get to keep any margin tax free.
                I knew what I was signing up for.
                Everyone’s circumstances are different, talk to your account at tax time and have a play with this great tool:
                https://www.reddit.com/r/AusFinance/comments/14wejuf/the_mos…
                If you’re in the market for a passenger car and can novate, I have absolutely no idea why anyone would go ICE atm (edge cases aside).

                • @sammyjj: It's not free money, part of the monthly repayment is from your salary (the other part is pre-tax salary, that's where savings are from).

    • -2

      the dolphin is not much better than a Nissan leaf

      • How could it be better at all? Leaf is proven

        • +7

          dolphin has a CCS2 port.

          • -2

            @kungfuman: Reliability and overall experience is surely more important than any single feature. If never to drive them both to make a decision, reading spec sheets isn't enough

            • +6

              @mrau: being able to charge any where is more important than anything else. a chademo port is a pain in the arse.

              • -2

                @kungfuman: I disagree. I need to be able to charge only at home and when shopping, for instance. I'd never drive this car more than a 100km any day, most often not more than 20. My point is that it depends on the driver and use. For long trips I'd still use my CX-9… it's just good for that.

          • @kungfuman: And uses it to charge at like -800KWH

      • +13

        Nissan leaf is utter trash. Air cooled battery with a proven track record of batteries failing prematurely due to this and dealerships quoting $2X,XXX for battery replacement - just google it. This is what happens when you don't continue R&D.

  • +2

    I am interested in switching to an EV. 🚗 Petrol is expensive nowadays.

    My only concern is whether it is possible to install a charger next to my car parking space. My storage room next to the parking space only has lighting, but no power outlet. 💡

    • +6

      If you are talking about a car parking space in an apartment, good luck.

    • +2

      check with your building manager maybe?

    • +1

      There's a decent guide here: https://www.solarquotes.com.au/ev-chargers/ that includes the options, location choices, and so on.

    • +5

      You ☝️ will have to check ✅️ with your body corporate 🏛, generally shouldnt be an issue 😬 although sometimes very expensive 💰

    • +13

      This one takes USB-C

      • +1

        Where does it take it?

      • +1

        It would take a while to charge from usb

        • +1

          Really roughly like 26 days in perfect conditions

      • Alternatively, envelops or 10000 mah power banks will do fine as well…

      • How much is insurance?

        • +2

          I did a mock quote the other day. $1400 for low km (i think i entered 6000km/year). Depends on your age, postcode etc of course

        • +1

          Quote for me with budget direct was $250~ per month for a model Y.

          • @Binchicken22: Try auspost, they were cheapest for me with $100 back. Or you can try NAB insurance, it was cheap for Tesla's too

            • @Ibz: Got a quote with Auspost, just out of interest, $128pm for a 2023 model 3 standard.

              A lot better than the $250pm with budget direct, but still I'd say a little more than a comparable ICE.

          • @Binchicken22: huh? that's outragous

      • +21

        Got an EV and insurance is the same as my petrol car. Both have similar market value

        • +3

          Same here

        • +2

          Thanks, so it isn't an negative

        • +3

          Yep, same here. I think people just aren't shopping around. Or Tesla is being hit because they're getting in a lot of accidents. There's some data suggesting the over reliance on self driving is making them get in more accidents

          • +2

            @bobswinkle: Over reliance on a technology which isn't legal in Australia to use

            I hope insurers just deny these claims straight up

            /Smh

          • @bobswinkle: Maybe it is because the drivers identify with the bad attitude as the CEO? Who knows.

          • @bobswinkle: It's def a Tesla thing. My quotes are pushing $3k for Tesla. MG4 / BYD = $1400~

        • +4

          I've had anumber of EV's over the last few years. In my experience anything non-Tesla is pretty much price equivalent to a petrol car. My current Tesla however, is bloody expensive. Its double my wife's EV premium, and her car was twice as expensive in the first place.

          • @IXXI:

            anumber of EV's over the last few years.

            Care to elaborate on this.

            Was it returns, business car, rental, write offs?

            • @FredAstair: @FredAstair I've just owned a few. Not all of them that special though. First was an Outlander PHEV ($500pa), second was a Kona EV ($605pa), third is a Kia EV9 ($856pa) and finally is my M3P due off the boat next week ($1750pa). The Tesla is double to triple the other cars and my insurance is much cheaper than many others I see on the forums thankfully.

          • @IXXI: thanks for some real life facts

        • +2

          Really, who did you go with?

          I compared a quote between a 2022 grand Cherokee L summit reserve (agreed value 99k) and a 2023 Tesla model Y (60k agreed value) both with budget direct and the jeep was $120 a month the Tesla $250 per month, for a vehicle with 40% less value.

          • +4

            @Binchicken22: Aami.
            MG4 and Corolla ZR hybrid.
            NSW.
            Low km.
            Perfect driving history.

            Tip: maybe don't go for Tesla.

        • Same. Actually, my EV is double the price of the petrol car. It cost me only $40 more per month for insurance. I could go lower from Budget Direct.

      • +1

        This is a common misconception. If you conduct thorough research and compare insurance quotes before making a purchase, you will find that there is no significant difference in premiums for new cars. In fact, my two-year-old Toyota hybrid was "comparatively "more expensive to insure than my electric car .

    • +1

      You'll have to speak with the owners corporation. I once lived in a building where it was single level underground parking with electrical cupboards which had all the unit meters nearby. Since there were cable trays anyone could get for $1k of labour an electrician to install a 32A single phase run for 7kW charging. Owners corp was pretty easy going, but needed their permission because the cable trays are common property.

      Other buildings it can be very costly to the point of being prohibitive. Other buildings might be easy but then have some sort of whinge around how only X of Y car spots could get 32A - in the case above, of 30 parking spaces, only 10 could get 32A single phase before the building would need expensive upgrades. It was first come first serve. Only 1 person took it up by the time I left.

      • +5

        Anyone buying an apartment in this day and age should be inspecting the car park and enquiring about the cost of installing an EVSE before purchase so you know what you’re getting into.

    • Another option is to charge on EV charging $tation$ only.
      Any nearby??

      • Dont they end up being cheaper than petrol stations

        • Some do.

          Not into that market (just yet) but pricing per kW seems to vary on max wattage available, time of the day, location and who knows what else.
          I'll do more specific research when needing to cross that bridge.

  • +6

    good to see price coming down, but this thing drives like shit……

    • Savage.

      • +4

        Aren’t they like 13 seconds 0-100?

        Edit: 12.3 (lol) or 7 on premium

        • +2

          7 at 43k probably beats out a heap of 'ice hot hatches'… Just stop the car before the next corner though lol.

        • Yeah I guess I was behind one earlier today in my 2014 i20 and I was able to chase up easily to it (not at the line but down later)

    • +6

      have you driven it?

    • +13

      It still dives better than a camry, which 95% of ozb and whirlpool users own.

      5% driving high yield BMW's probably won't like the dynamics on this

      • +15

        no it readlly doesn't…. the suspension was terriblely unsupportive and lose traction when cornoring sharp….

        Camry was slightly better…

        BYD can actually do good handling cars. in China they have a cheaper model called E2, as a dedicated UBER/DIDI car, has larger internal space and far better handlng, cheaper too. just doesn't as appealing…..

        • +1

          Dynamic? Premium has better rear suspension apparently.

        • losing traction when cornering sharply? you should ride a good motorbike!
          It'll still lose traction if you corner too "sharply"…. but we probably won't hear you complaining about it afterwards.

          • +1

            @rooster7777: you are a perfect example of why we should north argue with idots. they simply cannot understands words and scenarios behind them

            • @HD9990: I understood perfectly what your crap spelling meant in the first post and this post.
              If you're hanging the arse of your car out going round corners, drifty boy, then you should learn the skills to match.
              Only idiots lose traction cornering sharply accidently.

      • I'm offended. It's not a camry, it's an aurion /s

  • +48

    everyone pls buy these cheaper EVs so Toyota lowers the price on hybrids, I'd like to buy one about a year from now. thanks

    • "everyone pls buy these cheaper EVs so Toyota lowers the price on hybrids"

      Supply and Demand graph does not agree.

      • +8

        demand shifts to other makes. toyota lowers price. demand increases again

    • +5

      you better order a year ago

Login or Join to leave a comment