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BYD Dolphin: Dynamic $36,890 (Was $38,890), Premium $42,890 (Was $44,890) + On Road Costs @ BYD

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BYD Dolphin: Dynamic $36,890 (Was $38,890), Premium $42,890 (Was $44,890) + On Road Costs @ BYD
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E5TOQUE on 14/06/2024 - 10:41 bydautomotive.com.au (11566 clicks)

BYD Australia have lowered pricing on the BYD Dolphin hatchback by $2000 across the board.

Prices:

BYD Dolphin Dynamic = $36,890 before onroad costs (and select state EV subsidies)
BYD Dolphin Premium = $42,890 before onroads costs (and select state EV subsidies)

Battery:

BYD exclusively use their own in house BYD Blade LFP batteries.
These have benefits over NMC and NCA batteries as they do not contain Cobalt or Nickle.
They have a greatly reduced chance of thermal runaway occuring.
They can be fully charged up to 100% repeatedly with far less degradation issues occurring compared to NMC and NCA batteries commonly used in other EV's.

Warranty

6 Years on the car
8 Years on the battery

Brochure PDF which includes spec/equipment breakdown:

https://bydautomotive.com.au/brochures/BYD-DOLPHIN-2023.pdf

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    • 1st-Amendment on 14/06/2024 - 11:15
      -2

      am I correct that it would take at least 8 hours to fully charge since we're on AC? We can only get fast charging at public charging stations which use DC?

      It's all DC. Like with your phone, if you charge at home it will come with a rectifier/transformer to change the AC at the wall to DC into the device. To charge faster you need higher current. Standard house circuits are 10 Amps, dedicated wall chargers are 16 or 32 Amps, and things like the Tesla Superchargers are something like 600Amps.

      • Hendot on 14/06/2024 - 12:55
        +2

        Incorrect. AC power can be fed into the car, then the car has a built in rectifier to convert to DC and charge the battery.

        • FredAstair on 14/06/2024 - 18:58

          Would it be correct then to say that in Australia, the electricity supplied to homes is AC (230V, 50 Hz).

          Electronic devices, like your phone, use a rectifier/transformer to convert this AC to DC for charging. To charge devices faster, a higher current is generally required.

          Standard house circuits are typically rated for 10 or 15 Amps.

          Dedicated EV wall chargers can be rated for 16 or 32 Amps. Tesla Superchargers can deliver high currents, often around 600 Amps, depending on the system's voltage, to enable rapid charging.

          • Hendot on 29/06/2024 - 08:12

            @FredAstair: Yeah not really.

            Anything with a wall wart charges by DC. The wall wart converts from AC to DC.

            EV wall chargers are AC (30A x 240V = 7.2kW). The car converts to DC to charge the battery.

            Superchargers are DC and could deliver 100kW up to about 250kW.

    • smoothymcmellow on 14/06/2024 - 11:21

      It will take more than 8 hours on a regular power point charge.

      Normal powerpoint is about 2kw/h, so if the battery is 45kw its 22.5hrs, 60kw battery is 30hrs

      You can get a 32a powerpoint installed in some states (such as Vic) on single phase. That will give you 7kw/h so 6.5hrs for 45kw and 8.5hrs for 60kw.

    • E5TOQUE on 14/06/2024 - 11:21
      +5

      Depends on which type of AC Charger you are using:

      10 Amp = 2.30kW per hour
      15 Amp = 3.45kW per hour
      32 Amp = 7.36kW per hour

      BYD Dolphin Dynamic Battery = 44.9kWh
      BYD Dolphin Premium Battery = 60.48kWh

      So divide the battery capacity by the charger speed and you will have a rough idea how long it would take to charge from completely empty to full. However…..

      Some important things to note:

      1. You will almost never be charging your battery from completely empty. Just trickle charge it overnight while you sleep to keep it topped up. So the timings listed are not something you are likely to experience in the real world.

      2. batteries do not charge in a linear way. There is a thing called a 'charge curve'.

      3. the rate at which they charge is dependent on the temperature of the battery. Cold batteries will charge slower. BYD's all come standard with heat pumps which are used to warm the battery up when you are driving and charging to keep it at the ideal temperature to charge properly and get the most range.

      • Poor Ass on 14/06/2024 - 11:48
        +2

        for those interested I have a 32A at home and while it is around 7kw on the wall once it goes in the car it become 6.5kw

    • cherpu on 14/06/2024 - 17:16

      I've owned an ATTO3 for a year now and here is how to think about charging simply without getting into calculations (though knowing them is useful).

      1. If you travel less than 75 km in a day then overnight charging using the provided charger is fine.
      2. Buying a 10amp charger will charge at 10% faster rate (not worth the expense in my opinion)
      3. You could install a 32amp socket and a fast charger. This combination will charge your car 50% in 4 hours and from zero overnight.
      4. If you have solar you can use that to charge your car and save even more.

      Remember mostly you'll not discharge your car to zero. I charge the car when it's down to 30-40% and for my needs I've only used the supplied charger. Having a fast charger does provide piece of mind but not necessary if you don't travel a lot each day.

      • pakikanga on 14/06/2024 - 17:20

        How often do you find yourself using public charging stations? How cost effective are they?

        • realrift on 15/06/2024 - 06:31

          A stat for EV's is that on average 95% of charging is done at home and 5% at fast/super chargers.

        • cherpu on 15/06/2024 - 09:46

          I've only used public charging station on long trips.I went to lake entrace recently and used 350kwh utra fast charger and Moe both ways and it costed be $20 to charge each time. So a total of $40 for the entire trip and I returned with 50% battery. I charged the car using the provided charger at the AirBnB as well during my stay.

    • Saku-kurata on 14/06/2024 - 11:08
      +6

      I mean, you don't have to click on the deals..?

      • furyou on 14/06/2024 - 11:50
        -4

        You might not be aware, there is a setting that turns on email notifications for deals that get 30 votes within 30 minutes

        • forkus on 14/06/2024 - 15:31
          +4

          You might not be aware, your email client usually has a delete button.

          • furyou on 14/06/2024 - 15:59
            -1

            @forkus: You didn't read the question did you

    • Aureus on 14/06/2024 - 11:15
      +4

      Yeah. Go to settings -> blocked. Add the car tag. Done.

      • furyou on 14/06/2024 - 11:56

        thanks for that. I can't seem to block a generic tag, but I guess I can just add each car brand

    • djones145 on 14/06/2024 - 11:33
      +2

      easier to create a new site, ozcarlessbargains. where car deals are banned

    • Poor Ass on 14/06/2024 - 11:49
      -2

      yes Ctrl-F4

      • furyou on 14/06/2024 - 11:51

        Sorry but closing my email browser does not stop the email coming in for this deals, but nice try

        • Poor Ass on 14/06/2024 - 11:52
          +1

          so it worked temporarily hahaha

  • Saku-kurata on 14/06/2024 - 11:06
    +13

    Good to see BYD even lower the car price again, putting even more pressure to the competitors. The winners are the customers.

    • MaximumEffort777 on 14/06/2024 - 11:36
      +8

      This is generally hybrid vehicles that are seen in flames which are much more likely to catch fire than BEV’s and given the hybrids are so popular in China it’s much more apparent and used by anti-CCP groups to highlight concerns.

    • rooster7777 on 14/06/2024 - 19:44

      Not if they have lithium iron phosphate batteries, like the header states. (LiFePO4)

      The fires tend to come from lithium ION batteries… lithium manganese cobalt etc. A different chemistry, a different more volatile beast. More energy storage for the size and weight, far more spontaneous combustion events per kilometer.

      Same goes for home batteries. Even tesla domestic batteries are going to lithium iron. (not yet here in australia) So much more reassuring to know where your barbeque is, and where your battery is, and never the twain shall meet.

  • Windows7forever on 14/06/2024 - 11:13
    +7

    At this rate, Once we get to sub $30k I may be tempted to get an EV.

    • Mokr on 14/06/2024 - 11:26

      plenty of used ev

    • watwatwat on 14/06/2024 - 12:13
      -1

      Yeah. For me, the brand new ICE car I bought years ago could likely be sold for around the same price I bought it for, so I could sell that and switch.

      It would be tempting but also the ICE car is super reliable/causes me no problems, and I don't pay for first-party insurance. If I switch to an EV, insurance cost will go up and there is a worry about car reliability…. at least in the case of Tesla. ie. problems for basic stuff, then need to wait long times to get service appointment.

      Also wow, it's almost to the day 10 years ago that I submitted a deal to ozbargain with release of the Tesla Model S.

      https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/147209

      60kWh for $91,400 and now this BYD offers the same battery for $37k.

    • realrift on 15/06/2024 - 06:33

      The total cost of ownership over 5years is probably already lower than a comparable ICE car. You can do the calculations for your situation.

  • ShirokaZe on 14/06/2024 - 11:15
    +6

    Woooow, 0-100 in 12.3 seconds, that's rough.

    • Naigrabzo on 14/06/2024 - 11:17
      +1

      Should be ok for most people though. Not if you are using it as a track car for pro racing however.

    • LoftyAu on 14/06/2024 - 11:34
      +6

      Still faster than a Prado and a whole bunch of econoboxes (which this basically is).

    • DingoBilly on 14/06/2024 - 11:37
      +2

      I know right? How am I going to race the boys at the lights at that speed?

      People focus on such weird things that are irrelevant in most cases….

      • Poor Ass on 14/06/2024 - 11:54

        VW Golf R is mandatory to smoke anyone at the lights

    • CocaKoala on 14/06/2024 - 12:07
      -1

      I could do faster 0-100 in a woolies trolley.

      • lomie on 14/06/2024 - 12:23
        +6

        You mean 0-$100

    • BarrytheBargain on 14/06/2024 - 12:44
      +1

      This car is made as a city runabout, to the shops, gym, beach, hair salon etc. 0-100 performance isn't really relevant when it will never hit 100kmh in most people's use cases, would still have the instant torque from 0-50 which will make it feel quicker than it is.
      Still, at this price, being a city runabout, you would need to be driving to the shops and back multiple times a day to make up the $$ in saved fuel, so i reckon the price needs to be sub $30k in my use case to make it worth it.

  • gfjh567gh3 on 14/06/2024 - 11:16

    RIP anyone who bought one and was relying on a decent resale value to upgrade in a couple of years

    • Naigrabzo on 14/06/2024 - 11:17
      +6

      Resale? BUHAHAHAHA.

      • gfjh567gh3 on 14/06/2024 - 11:19
        +1

        I ran the sums. With what I pay for electricity in Sydney (no solar) an EV is far from 'free' to run
        Most people don't realise that depreciation is the largest cost component of a car
        I bought a new Rav4 Hybrid

        • SupeNintendoChalmers on 14/06/2024 - 11:23
          +3

          Therein lies the difference then, I have solar + batteries. Should I purchase an EV, my day to day 'fuel' costs would be almost zero. I'd only need to use a charging station on long trips.

          • Sammyboy on 14/06/2024 - 19:30

            @SupeNintendoChalmers: So you should also factor in a portion of the cost of solar and the house battery to the total cost of the car

            • gfjh567gh3 on 14/06/2024 - 21:58

              @Sammyboy: Yes, I also looked at solar (unfortunately most of the good rebates had passed) and there was a 5+ year payback period, and that was NOT risk free (including if the installers didn't cause a leak or other electrical issue

              The panels aren't guaranteed for much longer than the payback period, and let's not forget that warranty often isn't worth the paper it's written on

        • Brick Tamland on 14/06/2024 - 11:26
          +5

          Thats the biggest issue at the moment, what you save in petrol costs you get pounded by insurance and depreciation

        • May4th on 14/06/2024 - 11:50

          did you wait 18months or did you pay a markup aka advance payment on the depreciation ?

          • gfjh567gh3 on 14/06/2024 - 21:59

            @May4th: I waited until people started cancelling orders then found my preferred model and colour via a broker

        • BarrytheBargain on 14/06/2024 - 12:47
          +2

          Need to be doing quite a few miles to make economic sense of EV's. Go ahead and buy if you want an EV, but personally Ive run the sums and cant make it work out from a pure $ perspective with the number of KM i do on the runabout each year. Alot of people just see the $ saving, but dont take into account the original purchase price, depreciation etc.

        • Naigrabzo on 14/06/2024 - 15:17
          +1

          RAV4 hybrid, is a good choice especially lower trims. IT will hold value well. Dunno about the higher trims though.

          When this Dolphin breaks, it will literally be like a dolphin out of water. Gasping for air and no spare parts in sight.

          I bet this will depreciate 40% in the first 3 years.

        • rooster7777 on 14/06/2024 - 19:48

          How many kilometers do you get in an EV before you need to get a rebore, valve clearance done, throttle body clean, synth oil replacement for the turbo, transmission service, radiator replacement or coolant change, new exhaust, air and fuel filter, spark plugs, plug leads, service and tuneup… all that sort of cheap stuffs?

          • gfjh567gh3 on 14/06/2024 - 21:56

            @rooster7777: That's why I bought a Toyota, not an MG..
            Don't forget that EV have various serviceable components outside of the engine - solenoids, switches, actuators, suspension. Not to mention that software can brick your car up.
            I don't see repair being any easier in the future for ANY car, which is another reason why I went Toyota

            • rooster7777 on 14/06/2024 - 22:06

              @gfjh567gh3: agreed, but all the serviceable components you mention are common to EV and ICE cars… the ones I mentioned are in addition to what an EV has.

              • gfjh567gh3 on 14/06/2024 - 22:12

                @rooster7777: Sure, but my point is that EV isn't maintenance free just because you don't have to change the oil.
                There's plenty of things beyond the engine that can end the economic life of a car.

                To answer your original question - I don't think any commuter cars do sleeves, adjust valves, throttle body sync. Transmission fluid is often for life, otherwise trivial to replace. Even coolant is long life, radiators last a long time and aren't expensive. Spark plugs, piece of piss, but iridium plugs will last 100k

    • Aureus on 14/06/2024 - 11:24
      +6

      Buying a new car every 2 years is pretty silly.

      • gfjh567gh3 on 14/06/2024 - 22:02
        -1

        Not necessarily, if you bought a rav4 hybrid in 2019 then again in 2021, you would have MADE money.

        We are in a different paradigm of cars to that of your daddy. Also, we are in an inflationary environment, do you think car prices are going to drop? I don't. Plateau with CPI at best

        If you have the capital/credit, your total TCO will often be to stick with newer cars with high resale value.

    • beltdrive on 14/06/2024 - 11:44
      +1

      meh, it's an inherent risk that comes with buying a new car. no one should "rely" on resale.

    • 0806449 on 14/06/2024 - 13:07

      Why do people not comment when Phone deals drop

    • Herbse on 14/06/2024 - 13:17
      +1

      Cars were never meant to be investment products. They've always been lost money as soon as they're off the lot.

    • realrift on 15/06/2024 - 06:35

      I wouldn't be too confident in the resale value of ICE cars…

      • gfjh567gh3 on 15/06/2024 - 11:00
        -1

        That would only be the case if the government coercively pushed out ICE
        However, the market clearly wants ICE
        Electricity isn't exactly getting cheaper. They've spent billions on snowy hydro, and could instead have built a few nukes
        European energy is also going up in price, especially as they have lost their cheap Russian gas supply

        Look up gasifier engines, used in ww2 - that might be our future at this rate

  • oraserat on 14/06/2024 - 11:16

    Dumping to the peril of all non-Chinese manufacturers/rest of the world

  • SpaceNinja on 14/06/2024 - 11:20
    +2

    0 to 100 km/h in 12.3 seconds

    Is this thing running on AA Eneloops?

    • HunterBargainHunter on 14/06/2024 - 11:27
      +3

      Feet through the car floor, Fred Flintstone style

  • SupeNintendoChalmers on 14/06/2024 - 11:21
    +1

    Colleague purchased a base model Dolphin. Must admit was quite impressed with the whole package, though still think the Atto3 is a better vehicle.

  • axlfan on 14/06/2024 - 11:24
    +1

    Fantastic pricing. Love their battery tech, safety features and 360 degree camera. Wonder if this will go down further.

    • tehsnrub on 14/06/2024 - 11:26
      +4

      the camera is super cool. I used 3D mode to drive down my driveway before my window defogged :D

  • markwid on 14/06/2024 - 11:24
    -7

    Build Your Dream or Burn You Down?

  • tehsnrub on 14/06/2024 - 11:26
    +1

    I have the Dolphin Premium and it is great value for money for my use and associate lease tax savings. The driver aids sh!t me to tears but you can turn them off.
    My main complaint is the inverter is only 1-phase so max charge rate is 7kW while our Model Y does 11.5kW.

    • Poor Ass on 14/06/2024 - 11:55
      +2

      still very good overnight charge to full

  • sheikyerbouti on 14/06/2024 - 11:26
    +11

    BYD exclusively use their own in house BYD Blade LFP batteries. They have a greatly reduced chance of thermal runaway occuring.

    I am so surprised that this keeps being raised as an issue. In ICE vehicle ads, noone talks about the flammability of petrol vs diesel, or an LPG car with a big tank of extremely flammable gas in the boot. Yet apparently people care that much about an extraordinarily rare event in EVs?

    • samfisher5986 on 14/06/2024 - 11:33
      +17

      Oil companies and connected companies are the ones putting forward the EV Fire idea.

      • kev98 on 14/06/2024 - 19:28

        I think people also (wrongly?) connect the recent spate of electric scooter/bike fires with EVs. I don't think I have heard of any Teslas catching fire in peoples garages but I guess you could see how people may make the link between them.

    • bio on 14/06/2024 - 11:36
      +5

      I am so surprised that this keeps being raised as an issue.

      It's the conspiracy nut mindset. If a new technology is better/cheaper/more efficient than the previous one, there must be a huge downside that illuminati is trying to hide from people (but somehow all youtubers streaming from their mom's garage know about that secret).

      • FredAstair on 14/06/2024 - 19:11

        But let's face it.. These are mining greedies they're talking about.

        Even I would expect that from them.

    • Pratty on 14/06/2024 - 22:13

      Exactly. Nailed it with that comment.

    • realrift on 15/06/2024 - 06:38
      +1

      This. EV's are about 9-10 times less likely to catch fire than an ICE car.
      Conversely, Hybrids around around 9 times more likely to catch fire than ICE cars.

  • da1andonly on 14/06/2024 - 11:30

    Is Australia getting ripped off? It's priced at $13900 usd overseas

    • bio on 14/06/2024 - 11:39

      It's priced at $13900 usd overseas

      You mean, in China?

      See https://www.ozbargain.com.au/comment/15381091/redir

    • Powershopz on 14/06/2024 - 11:52

      Of course we are. We're seen as a 'small market' to most of the big companies and always pay the 'Australia Tax'.

      Was looking at prices in Asia e.g. In Thailand it's ~$32K AUD including 2 years insurance and 8 years of servicing included in that price.

    • sheikyerbouti on 14/06/2024 - 12:51
      +2

      It's almost like it costs more to transport them halfway across the world compared to selling them in the same country they're built in.

    • Herbse on 14/06/2024 - 13:17
      +1

      Blame our high wages for the high prices.

    • ChickenAdobo on 14/06/2024 - 13:19

      It not the same version. They had to modify the structure to meet ADR requirements.

      • beltdrive on 14/06/2024 - 13:21
        +1

        did they replace the paddlepop sticks and glue with steel and bolts?

        • ChickenAdobo on 14/06/2024 - 13:21
          +2

          Nice imagination you have but no….

    • MaximumEffort777 on 14/06/2024 - 11:42
      +1

      Incorrect. All BYD Australian vehicles are limited to single phase 7kW AC.

      • beltdrive on 14/06/2024 - 11:47

        out of curiosity, do you know why?

        • MaximumEffort777 on 14/06/2024 - 11:52

          I’m assuming to keep prices lower as it seems to be a thing in quite a few RHD markets.

        • Naigrabzo on 14/06/2024 - 15:18

          Most EV buyers (actually most people) are noobs who don't look at these deetz.

  • Flintz on 14/06/2024 - 11:39
    +2

    Keep going down…

  • bizarredeal on 14/06/2024 - 11:39

    Love these posts. Can't wait for the next Tesla lowering price post. <3

    • CocaKoala on 14/06/2024 - 12:14
      +2

      That's not going to happen for 3 days or so. I'll give it a week, tops.

  • NKJeno on 14/06/2024 - 11:40
    +5

    At this rate it's cheaper to get a home battery from a car than it is to get a BYD home battery solution of the same size

    • bio on 14/06/2024 - 11:44
      +3

      Take the battery out, use the motor as the generator in a home made wind turbine to charge the battery. Free energy!

      You can then run the car with the 2-stroke engine taken out from your old lawnmower.

      • NKJeno on 14/06/2024 - 11:45

        hahaha i like it

    • May4th on 14/06/2024 - 12:04

      too bad BYD doesn't have V2G yet. eyeing the EV5 for this

      • Hendot on 14/06/2024 - 15:41

        It does have V2L though.

  • MOPAP on 14/06/2024 - 11:48
    -1

    I honestly would buy one today apart from the fact that about $11,000 of my money goes to the Chinese government in taxes, so we are funding them attacking our navy and armed forces with sonar and other nonsense in the Pacific.

    • beltdrive on 14/06/2024 - 11:54
      -2

      I ain't in the navy

      therefore

      not my problem

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