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BYD Dolphin: Dynamic $36,890 (Was $38,890), Premium $42,890 (Was $44,890) + On Road Costs @ BYD

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BYD Dolphin: Dynamic $36,890 (Was $38,890), Premium $42,890 (Was $44,890) + On Road Costs @ BYD
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E5TOQUE on 14/06/2024 - 10:41 bydautomotive.com.au (11566 clicks)

BYD Australia have lowered pricing on the BYD Dolphin hatchback by $2000 across the board.

Prices:

BYD Dolphin Dynamic = $36,890 before onroad costs (and select state EV subsidies)
BYD Dolphin Premium = $42,890 before onroads costs (and select state EV subsidies)

Battery:

BYD exclusively use their own in house BYD Blade LFP batteries.
These have benefits over NMC and NCA batteries as they do not contain Cobalt or Nickle.
They have a greatly reduced chance of thermal runaway occuring.
They can be fully charged up to 100% repeatedly with far less degradation issues occurring compared to NMC and NCA batteries commonly used in other EV's.

Warranty

6 Years on the car
8 Years on the battery

Brochure PDF which includes spec/equipment breakdown:

https://bydautomotive.com.au/brochures/BYD-DOLPHIN-2023.pdf

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      • 1st-Amendment on 14/06/2024 - 10:57
        +2

        I was in the dealer on the weekend and he told me it's all good, Toyota have fixed the supply issues and so I could be in one in as little as 6 months! 🤣

        • King Tightarse on 14/06/2024 - 11:04
          +4

          Mate went to buy a Corolla hybrid last weekend, was told 12 months wait list (Vic) so he gave up and got a Mazda. 'only' 2 months wait

        • JimmyJohnson on 14/06/2024 - 19:50

          Id love to share the same trust you have in car salesmen

      • Caped Baldy on 14/06/2024 - 11:03
        +3

        Fleet people at my work are still saying 12-18 months for Toyotas.

        Not much of a wait on Subaru's but their hybrids are shite.

        • beltdrive on 14/06/2024 - 11:38

          I'd rather a Hyundai hybrid than a Subaru hybrid (once they expand their range)

    • b724d0de on 14/06/2024 - 11:34
      +1

      didn't the lot of japanese car makers got caught with safety testing fraud? found it (https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-06-04/toyota-honda-yamaha-m…)

      • beltdrive on 14/06/2024 - 13:24
        +1

        corporations are gonna do corporation things sadly. good luck finding a major manufacturer with a squeaky clean record

      • rooster7777 on 14/06/2024 - 19:16

        That link certainly caught my eye! yamaha making cars?

        I dunno what "vehicles" ABC reckon yamaha was spicing up the incorrect or manipulated safety test data. I've never seen max stopping distance figures for motorbike safety tests, or maximum lean angle, or even front or side impact resistance data (ahem)

        I could understand if they said yamaha had fudged emissions data on engines they suppy to car manufacturers, but is someone really saying that they juiced up data on any of the 337 hand built vehicles they've made in the last 3 years?

        https://global.yamaha-motor.com/news/2023/0125/newsletter

    • taki on 14/06/2024 - 20:04
      +2

      Toyota has no chance against BYD.
      Chinese brands have superior engineering for much less. 15% better than Tesla & 30% better than EU manufacturers (similar for others) - say Swiss UBS engineers.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgmDiWfZJcI
      New BYD phEVs can drive 2,100 km non-stop with full tank & batt.

      • CharlieAus on 14/06/2024 - 22:40
        +2

        They can't drive 2100km, they don't have the 1.4l per 100k they claim.

    • Geoffw on 15/06/2024 - 07:33

      Or do what i did. Buy a 2yo with 30k on the clock. Many novated lease owners upgrade them at around this point as its tax effective.

  • stevelo on 14/06/2024 - 10:53
    +26

    I like EV prices are going down, that put a pressure ice cars price not goinng up even you aren't interested in EV

    • milobob on 14/06/2024 - 11:34
      +3

      This. Petrol cars have gone up considerably at the point where it's almost parity! Insane. Should have been the other way, prices of EVs coming significantly down. Looks like it's just meeting in the middle.

    • Grok on 14/06/2024 - 12:58
      +13

      This is an going and in fact increasing trend and it means huge trouble for ICE manufacturers.

      As more and more EVs are built the economies of scale massively increase and the cars get cheaper.

      Conversely guess what happens when ICE car sales start to slow and fall?

      Death spiral!

      • dbmitch on 18/06/2024 - 19:56

        Range Anxiety is the biggest issue I have with EVs as a frequent road tripper.

        We get to the point of charging stations being as frequent as Petrol stations (maybe even petrol stations end up being automated and replaced) and the charging to full say, 15 mins rather than 2 hours, it will be the breaker for me.

        Or battery technology being able to run thousands of km on a single charge will also be fine.

        • samfisher5986 on 18/06/2024 - 21:39
          +1

          Only people who don't have EV's, have range anxiety when thinking about EV's.

          Its a completely non issue in most circumstances.

        • Grok on 19/06/2024 - 15:51

          Range anxiety is really only an issue in most of Australia 😂, in more civilised places EV fast chargers are relatively common now.

          Plus you need to inform yourself about charging, here is not the place. You would never have to wait 2hours to charge your EV on a road trip. 20-30min max while you stretch your legs, have a coffee and pee every few hours.

  • Hinee on 14/06/2024 - 10:54
    +20

    Damn, we're finally almost hitting the zone of EVs truly being a 1:1 replacement option for many people.

    • Brick Tamland on 14/06/2024 - 11:03
      +2

      Not quite there yet. Yaris Hybrid at $32k drive away, Dolphin $39K drive away

        • plmko on 14/06/2024 - 11:12
          +3

          You'd never need to sell the Yaris though. Keep it for 25 years, battery refurbs would only be $3k every 12 years. Or just never replace the battery and drive on the engine.

        • ChaseTheSun on 14/06/2024 - 11:22

          It will be the other way round. Yarris will be worthless while the Dolphin would have paid for itself and still be running.

          When you compare cars better compare its the total costs of ownership rather than the buying price.

          • jimwh on 14/06/2024 - 11:34
            +1

            @ChaseTheSun: you haven't mentioned the tax saving through NL. It is insane…

            • ChaseTheSun on 14/06/2024 - 11:56

              @jimwh: @jimwh yeah shuush.. don't tell everyone how much savings they could be making, they will still find another excuse not to get an EV car.

          • 1st-Amendment on 14/06/2024 - 11:36
            -4

            @ChaseTheSun:

            When you compare cars better compare its the total costs of ownership rather than the buying price.

            Yes lets do that. Where are your sums?

            Let's look at some examples:
            2014 Yaris was about $16k when new, now selling on Carsales for about the same price. (0% depreciation)
            We don't have old Dolphins to compare, but a 2014 Tesla S was about $200k new and now selling for $40k on Carsales. (80% depreciation)

            I know it's not like for like, but I can't imagine a Chinese EV will hold value as well as a Tesla. And I can't imagine anyone wanting to buy a 10 year old Chinese EV with a battery about to die. Nissan Leafs are another example, about $50k new, under $10k now (80% depreciation)

            You'd never buy enough petrol to cover the depreciation of an EV based on those examples, let alone the inconvenience factors of limited range and charging, and from what I hear, insurance premiums.

            Happy to be corrected though. Produce your TCO numbers and let's compare.

            • ChaseTheSun on 14/06/2024 - 12:10
              +2

              @1st-Amendment: Do Your Own Research!
              Need to add up petrol/electricity costs, servicing and maintenance costs over 10? 20 years?
              Numbers will vary between individuals. e.g. some ppl may have excess solar, zero electricity cost? some ppl have novated lease? etc

              Also who knows… in 15 yrs, maybe no one would want to buy or would not be allowed to buy a hybrid anymore?

            • cherpu on 14/06/2024 - 16:38
              +1

              @1st-Amendment: Issue is that EVs are new and people judge car batteries life expectancy with their phone battery. EV batteries will always outlive the body of the car. EV batteries degrade over time i.e. have slightly less range and don't just suddenly stop working.

              How much? around 10-15% after 150,000km. This is based on li-ion batteries that Telsa uses, lfp batteries that BYD uses last even longer. How much? As much as double and they are safer.

              The reason the resale value isn't there is because of lack of awareness. Once there is awareness and batter charging infra, who'll want to buy worse driving, costlier to run cars.

              https://www.whichcar.com.au/advice/when-do-ev-batteries-need…

              Also, once an EV dies it will still be worth something because of the battery. Let's say by the end of life battery is 30% degraded. i.e. it has 280km range rather than 400km. The 60kwh battery still has 48kwh capacity left. One can use it to power thier house using solar or sell it so someone else.

              • Sammyboy on 14/06/2024 - 19:24

                @cherpu: Seriously how many people are going to rip out the batteries from electric cars to power their house? And to find an electrician willing to wire it up for you? Would probably void your home insurance too

                • cherpu on 15/06/2024 - 05:07

                  @Sammyboy: What if you can power your house using your BYD starting day 1?

                  https://youtu.be/eoazV62mChw

                  Have solar but not ready to go all in? Fine, use the V2L adaptor included with your BYD to power high running cost appliances at night. It's as easy as plugging in your appliances to the V2L adaptor.

                  Cost of buying a new 50kwh lfp battery will be motivation enough for people to use what they already have.

                  Also, I'm sure all the EV owners currently have home insurance, so why will anyone loose insurance on using the same battery to power the house?

                  • NigelPearson on 17/06/2024 - 07:19

                    @cherpu: Sammy was talking about removing the battery from an EV and permanently wiring it up to your house.

                    Any home electrical work can void home insurance in case of a claim. That is why electricians should issue a CCEW, and also have extra insurance.

                    Solar and batteries have extra standards that any work has to comply with, because high voltage DC is dangerous, and large batteries are a large fire risk.

                    • samfisher5986 on 17/06/2024 - 08:18

                      @NigelPearson: Everyone online always say that electricians should issue certificats, but they will generally refuse.

              • realrift on 15/06/2024 - 06:14

                @cherpu: Tesla uses LFP batteries in RWD and LR Model 3 and Y now.

                • cherpu on 15/06/2024 - 08:48

                  @realrift: that's great! Waiting for sodium battries to land so that non-EV converts can't complain about the lithium in battries like they can't about cobalt now.

            • FredAstair on 14/06/2024 - 18:51
              +1

              @1st-Amendment:

              Happy to be corrected though. Produce your TCO numbers and let's compare.

              Can't say I believe you there, going off your track record.

              Didn't surprise me to see you here tbh.

          • TangoCharlieAlpha on 14/06/2024 - 12:33
            +1

            @ChaseTheSun: It would be about 5-8 years before Dolphin pays off the prices difference over Yaris Hybrid. If battery shit itself in 10 years time, you would lose any savings you've done and more.

            Most people will be buying EV for city run-about not interstate travel because of range and lack of charging infrastructure. Some would be lucky to do 10,000 kms/year on these small EVs. Petrol savings don't add up when you factor in higher insurance, depreciation and charging costs.

            • cherpu on 15/06/2024 - 05:22

              @TangoCharlieAlpha: I was in the same place as you a year back and comments like yours are proof that the biggest hurdle to EV adoption is awareness.

              I posted this link earlier in this chat but will post again

              https://www.whichcar.com.au/advice/when-do-ev-batteries-need…

              Regarding not getting 10k km/year, talk to people who actually own an EV or better join a Tesla or a BYD group on FB. With FB groups you won't have to trust what 1 person tells you.

        • smartazz104 on 14/06/2024 - 11:25
          +6

          Really, people would pay 20K for a 10 year old Yaris? That thing should be 20K the moment it's driven off the lot.

          • 1st-Amendment on 14/06/2024 - 11:39
            -2

            @smartazz104:

            Really, people would pay 20K for a 10 year old Yaris?

            Depends how inflation pans out. I know a couple of people that bought 10 year old hatchbacks (Corolla and i30) for about $18k ea recently.
            I don't know a single person buying a 10 year old EV.

            • King Tightarse on 14/06/2024 - 12:16
              +3

              @1st-Amendment: I think the post Covid price surge is not typical and isnt likely to occur again so 0% depreciation for a 10 year old Yaris in not replicable.
              More like a once off windfall event.
              The early adopters of EVs were like the early adopters of plasma TVs paying 10 x what the price stabilized at and thus incurring massive depreciation.
              All signs are that Australia will see some serous price reductions across the EV market in the next 6 months and many regular people will be able to consider them as direct replacement for a new car.
              (didnt neg you BTW)

            • congo on 14/06/2024 - 12:19
              +2

              @1st-Amendment: EV hasnt been around that long enough.
              I am sure in 10 years time, many ppl will buy 10 year old EVs?

              • King Tightarse on 14/06/2024 - 12:22
                +1

                @congo: In 10 years time there will probably emerge a healthy after market battery service. A lot of EV naysayers act like once the battery is 10 years old the car is done. I doubt that will be the case moving forward
                If there is money to be made, somebody create a business to provide

                • congo on 14/06/2024 - 12:25

                  @King Tightarse: Yeah I am thinking of the same.
                  Plenty of demand and money to be made.

                  • King Tightarse on 14/06/2024 - 12:27
                    +1

                    @congo: Also massive R&D pointed at battery technology. I expect we will have cheaper and safer batty packs eventually

              • 1st-Amendment on 14/06/2024 - 12:27
                -4

                @congo:

                EV hasnt been around that long enough.

                Leaf came out in 2010, Tesla S was 2014. Do you know anyone buying these? I don't.

                • congo on 14/06/2024 - 17:53
                  +1

                  @1st-Amendment: How many Leaf were sold in 2010?
                  Maybe its a good thing that there arent so many second hand Leaf for sale?

                  • FredAstair on 14/06/2024 - 18:54

                    @congo: If do recall hearing something about their 1st models were crap. Something about their battery. Any idea if this was the case

        • rooster7777 on 14/06/2024 - 19:18
          +1

          the first amendment does give septics the right of free speech, but no-one automatically expects it to contain wisdom.

          • congo on 14/06/2024 - 20:28

            @rooster7777: If it is wisdom, I will listen.
            These days, it is hard to tell what is wisdom and what is cr*p.
            So I like to look at the facts and compare.
            But yeah, generally I would avoid 1st gen.

            • Naigrabzo on 18/06/2024 - 09:41

              @congo: All of these people speaking facts are just saying batteries will be better in 10 years etc etc. So what? The Dolphin will be worthless and obsolete. It would like refurbing an iphone 4 in 2024. It's possible but who would want that? Besides, BYD may not be here in 10 years anyways.

              The fact is, it's an unknown brand much like how Hyundai started with their crappy little cars. Hyundai did really well but I still don't want a crappy little car that they made as their first attempt at the Aus market.

              I will be happy to buy the BYD that they make in 10 years with their fancy batteries that will apparently improve but not now.

              I certainly won't be happy to buy this BYD dolphin in 10 years. For any price.

              • samfisher5986 on 18/06/2024 - 09:54

                @Naigrabzo: There's nothing bad about a BYD Dolphin that isn't bad about literally any brand new car you buy today.

                Cars are a depreciating asset and the only way to avoid today is to maybe buy a Toyota 4WD or similar while losing a ton of money on servicing and fuel if you aren't using it for 4WD purposes.

                • Naigrabzo on 18/06/2024 - 10:00

                  @samfisher5986: There is something fundamentally different about a BYD dolphin. It's like buying a Hyundai from the early 90s when they were entering the Aus market. There are many things we need to consider here especially for a brand new brand.

                  You can't really compare it to an established brand such as a Toyota, Honda, Hyundai, Kia etc.

                  Even simple things such as servicing, parts not forgetting longevity of parts and even just plastics falling to bits in our very high UV environment.

                  When BYD goes out of business, try getting some parts for your BYD. You can buy them on aliexpress but they will be fake.

                  • samfisher5986 on 18/06/2024 - 10:05

                    @Naigrabzo: You have a fair point if it was true, but I'm not seeing any evidence.

                    BYD are extremely popular here so you can't know if they will fail and while I have not personally seen a BYD Dolphin in person, I also think that you can't measure the longevity of plastics and protection against UV by just looking at it.

                    I definitely agree that Hyundai plastics in their earlier cars were absolute garbage, everything fell apart.

                    There aren't any EV's with a proven track record unless you want an Elon Muskmobile which probably has the same risks as BYD in terms of bankruptcy or just ruining the car with OTA updates.

                    • Naigrabzo on 18/06/2024 - 11:06

                      @samfisher5986: If there are no EVs with a track record, why would you trust BYD all of a sudden? They are very little presence in Australia and may have issues with spare parts etc etc.

                      Lack of evidence doesn't mean that we just hope for the best.

                      If you buy a similar priced Toyota, Hyundai etc we know that servicability, reliability and longevity is already there. That's why their resale value is.

                      For example, I would not buy the new Toyota EV either. It's a first gen car like this Dolphin and will probs be shiate.

                      • samfisher5986 on 18/06/2024 - 11:29

                        @Naigrabzo: In my opinion regular ICE vehicle value will start to plummet in 5-10 years due to the high cost of fuel and service stations in general being considered a waste of money and second class. Specialised vehicles like 4WD's will take a lot longer.

                        Toyota holds its resale value because its Toyota, but at the same time you pay a $20k premium for the brand, then $4000 extra a year for fuel and $1000 extra per year for servicing.

                        All that extra resale value with the risk of of plummeting ICE value's still means BYD easily comes out ahead for a new vehicle.

                        Personally I was a bit unsure about BYD myself as well so I went with the MG4 which I love but its now a chinese company anyway.

                  • edfoo on 18/06/2024 - 13:25

                    @Naigrabzo: BYD Dolphin can't really compare to established brand such as Toyota, Honda, Hyundai, Kai etc?

                    I think Dolphin is better than many of the offerings from those established brands.

      • edfoo on 14/06/2024 - 12:36

        Yaris is a smaller car. Dolphin is more like Corolla size and it’s roomier inside too.

  • Drakesy on 14/06/2024 - 11:01
    +6

    Still way off way would be considered fair value compared to the chinese pricing where the comparative model starts at $25k aud..

    Just goes to show how much markup they can eke out of it by marketing it to us.

    It's a $30k car any day of the week. Same as with the BYD where it's closer to mid $30k's in China.

    • Brick Tamland on 14/06/2024 - 11:04

      Yep. $30K is the perfect price for the base Dolphin.

    • E5TOQUE on 14/06/2024 - 11:08
      +15

      BYD Dolphin for export markets has been modified with different front and rear ends to meet Western saftey standards.
      So its not a direct like for like.

      Keep in mind the pricing for Australia needs to include:

      $25,000 you mention
      +
      Western Market modifications
      +
      Shipping Costs
      +
      Importer's cut to keep the lights on with parts inventory, dealerships running, staff wages, offices, etc
      +
      10% GST
      +
      Profit for both BYD and the importer

      • 1st-Amendment on 14/06/2024 - 11:17
        +12
        • costs of increased buyer protections/warranties in Australia. ACLs cost money.
        • paaj on 14/06/2024 - 13:35
          +3

          This is something most people miss. We have really good warranty avenues here.

      • Brick Tamland on 14/06/2024 - 11:24
        +4

        Shipping costs from China is peanuts, how else can you buy little bits of landfill from Temu for literal cents.
        GST is China is 15% so the difference in 10% should even out the shipping costs.
        I think the importer does ok, look at any of their showrooms or expensive floor space at Chaddy. They aren't hard done by.

        • May4th on 14/06/2024 - 14:43
          +6

          really? you are comparing shipping costs of an iphone case to a car? no one is saying they aren't making money, but to expect to get it for the same price as its retail price is China is bonkers

        • rooster7777 on 14/06/2024 - 19:26
          +1

          Your knowledge of chinese postal costs, and chinese shipping costs is a bit errr… wanting.

          Temu landfill, and all the rest of the small item postage costs are that low for a very specific reason…. an international postal convention agreement some years ago, giving china 3rd world status with subsequent extremely beneficial postage rates. It's not that the postage trip costs sodall…. it's that the receiving countries get a bum deal, and often process and deliver for virtually nothing… you can google it to expand your knowledge.

          Shipping costs from china aren't subsidised by any country. Google reckons about $1-$2K for what appears to be private importations, which is around what I'd expect (plus handling, customs clearance etc). Importers shipping hundreds or thousands of cars in car carriers would be doing it a bit cheaper if they have a shit I mean ship load.

          • Bisky1 on 14/06/2024 - 22:18

            @rooster7777: Thank you for sharing this, really insightful*

            *Trust, but verify [and extend the snippet]!

      • surg3on on 14/06/2024 - 11:28
        -2

        Oi! Get out of here with your logic and math!

      • LoftyAu on 14/06/2024 - 11:35
        +3

        Yes but the importer is not buying them off the shop floor in China. They're buying at wholesale price, so the starting price for them is not $25k.

        • 1st-Amendment on 14/06/2024 - 11:51
          +2

          They're buying at wholesale price, so the starting price for them is not $25k.

          Same for the dealer in China.

          So let's say the wholesale price is $20k (making this up). Cost of doing business in China (rent, staff, cheap reliable coal-fired electricity, lousy warranties, no WHS/ACL/Medicare/NDIS/Voice referendum overheads etc) is $2k, the dealer makes a comfortable (for him) margin selling at $25k.

          The Aussie importer buys them at $20k, but cost of doing business is much much higher because we demand high wages, high rent, high energy prices, higher taxes, greater protections, more taxpayer funded BS, high everything) That all might add up to $10k per vehicle, so the margin while higher, is not as comfortable, because even if it's double the Chinese guy, his cost of living here is more than double so he's actually worse off.

          There's a lot of Chinese car brands here now and I can't see the market being big enough for all them to make a comfortable living.

      • ttt888 on 14/06/2024 - 11:41

        Remove shipping cost. Every new car sold in Oz has a shipping cost.

      • TangoCharlieAlpha on 14/06/2024 - 12:48

        Profit for both BYD and the importer

        Do you think BYD is selling their cars at cost price in China?

        Importer's cut to keep the lights on with parts inventory, dealerships running, staff wages, offices, etc

        So BYD don't pay these costs in China?

        10% GST

        No sales tax in China?

      • Drakesy on 14/06/2024 - 18:04
        +2

        The modifications would be peanuts, just a different crash bar design - equipment level and spec wise they're the same.
        Given that the $25k is already inclusive of the constructor & Retailer's profit margin but for conservativeness we'll double dip in this case.

        China RRP - $25k

        Shipping costs - say $1k a car
        Importer's additional cut & Profit - $3k a car
        10% GST - $3k a car

        Annd we're at $32k before subsidies just goes to show how much is being put on top of the base price.

        • rooster7777 on 14/06/2024 - 19:37

          You forgot embedded warranty costs, the 5% customs duty, interest cost. Importer probably makes significantly more than $3K per car, to cover site fitout/rental/purchase/depreciation, sales and admin staff salaries, payroll tax, compo insurance, advertising, demo vehicle depreciation, company tax etc etc.

          A quick google sniff suggested new car dealer net profit is around 4% (after all costs)

          A quick google sniff suggested that retailers mark up their wholesale cost by 30-50% (trade price 20% off)…. but they aren't making 30-50% profit on sales… overheads are very significant.

          It's not cheap doing business in australia, or the rest of the western world.

    • b724d0de on 14/06/2024 - 11:37
      +1

      everything is more expensive in au, check steam games, they sell the same game for about half the price in china (probably even cheaper in other development countries)

      • congo on 14/06/2024 - 12:21

        True that

    • May4th on 14/06/2024 - 11:48
      +3

      I feel like we need a copy and paste template for these posts
      it's the same comments every thread

    • NoshTwin on 14/06/2024 - 23:06

      Chinese consumers have less money and the costs are lower to sell locally in China. Why it would cost the same as in China?

      • Drakesy on 14/06/2024 - 23:16

        Where did i say it should cost the same as in china?

    • Caped Baldy on 14/06/2024 - 11:04
      +13

      I mean, you can see how's upvoted. It's a price cut and personally I appreciate OP's description on the batteries.

    • Jonzay on 14/06/2024 - 11:05
      +32

      "It is literally impossible for multiple people to have a differing opinion to my own"

    • Aureus on 14/06/2024 - 11:12

      No. Car deals appeal to a large audience, as most people drive cars.

      Also lots of people on the fence for buying an EV, due to high costs, so any price drop has high appeal.

      Also some people want to see higher EV adoption, so any EV deal gets instant upvote, even if it is meh.

    • cmyk on 14/06/2024 - 11:16
      +2

      Who's upvoting this comment? Surely they are fake accounts. Make zero sense

  • King Tightarse on 14/06/2024 - 11:03
    -5

    Seem to have directly copied Hyundai's panel pressing shapes on the doors

    • 1st-Amendment on 14/06/2024 - 11:10
      +1

      I always wondered how MG got away with blatantly stealing the CX5 design…

      • mooreshady on 14/06/2024 - 12:07

        Which MG

        • King Tightarse on 14/06/2024 - 12:10

          Presumably he is talking about the ZS and ZST

      • King Tightarse on 14/06/2024 - 12:09

        Yes, in this case the Dolphin copies the i30 sedan, Kona and others with the 'z' shape pressing.

        • May4th on 14/06/2024 - 14:47

          I don't see it really.. the z i30 sedan I think looks hideous. but this is quite common place.. hyundai copied the audi / euro designs. there's only so many ways you can put curves together on a car. BYD has hired Wolfgang Egger who was the head of design at Audi/Alfa/Lambo - you can probably see it the best in the BYD Seal the euro design cues.

          • King Tightarse on 14/06/2024 - 15:06

            @May4th: Yes well there is long tradition of this kind of thing
            In 2006, Kia employed former Audi designer Peter Schreyer (of TT fame) as head of design and basically bought them into the modertn age, style wise.
            Which Audi model where you referring to with the 'z' shape?
            The i30 sedan is probably the most extreme example of the side 'z' panel pressing, that I have seen so far anyway:

            https://media.drive.com.au/obj/tx_q:50,rs:auto:1920:1080:1/d…

            • May4th on 14/06/2024 - 15:19
              +1

              @King Tightarse: yeah the i30, not audi, I really don't like the z tail but I suppose beauty is in the eye of the beholder. personally the dolphin looks a bit toy car like to me even for a compact car.. the Seal looks like a more put together car..with a price tag to match

  • pakikanga on 14/06/2024 - 11:04

    So if I were to charge this at home, am I correct that it would take at least 8 hours to fully charge since we're on AC? We can only get fast charging at public charging stations which use DC?

    • Jonzay on 14/06/2024 - 11:05
      +12

      Are you always going to be charging from 0% battery?

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