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Fibre To The Node nbn 50/20 $2.08/Day ($63.27/Mth); nbn 100/40 $2.80/Day ($85.17/Mth) (New Customers, First 180 Days) @ Launtel

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*Discounted prices valid for 180 days from when you activate a service. After that the rates are $2.20/day (=$66.92/mth) for 50/20 and $3.00/day (=$91.25/mth) for 100/40. (From CIS for Fibre TO the Node)

Launtel is a small ISP run by ex Cisco engineer(s).

They have a 7 day free trial to see if the connection is right for you. No questions asked port out during the trial period.

The only ISP where you can pause, cancel and change speeds in minutes. You’re able to change between 25/5, 50/20, and 100/40 in the dashboard. No costs to do so.

Charges are done by the day. Not by the month.

Launtel runs a non congested network with public CVC charts for each POI.

Static IP is available. For techies out there I assume Launtel will be a comfortable home for your NBN connection. $0.35 a day or $150 for the life of your connection. Refunded when you no longer need it.

Network is Vocus and seems solid. Netflix and Amazon direct connect in place. Speed tests constant at all hours. So far the service and speed have been better than Aussie. Speed tests for downloads from Google were solid and so too were overseas downloads from Digital Ocean.

We have an FTTN connection and it’s been fine - no dropouts or speed issues. Changed from 100 to 50 and back to see how that worked. All of which took a few hours to switch up and down. No fuss.


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    • They are processed at the speed of the upstream carrier. NBN within about 20 minutes, Vocus can be a few hours unfortunately.

  • I am currently with Aussie Broadband on the Lonsdale exchange in SA. I don't really have a need to drop our speeds from the existing 100/40.

    Is there any benefit to me changing over to Launtel while they have no network in SA?

    I have heard some appalling stories from people on the Vocus resellers, evening congestion, terrible gaming pings, dropouts etc. I am assuming I would end up on the Vocus network here and loose the advantages of being through an ISP network.

    Any thoughts would be appreciated, as well as corrections if needed.

    Unfortunately we are stuck on fttn so really stuck with 100/40 for the foreseeable future.

    • Aussie are really quite good, if not the best ISP there is atm. I recommend Aussie to nearly anyone that asks.

      If price can help, then yeah worth switching, or if you have the stomach for a churn and trial then worth it.

      If churning is tough and you think Aussie is worth it than, not really worth moving.

    • +1

      Is there any benefit to me changing over to Launtel while they have no network in SA?

      Potential cheaper cost if you don’t always need 100/40 (due to daily billing). Downside is that you’d be using shared Vocus backhaul.

    • +1

      It comes to what you are talking to and if latency to what your talking to is important. Right now we backhaul all of our Vocus traffic into Sydney because frankly that is where almost all the hosting is based and where most of the international links come in. The big exception is Perth<->Singapore.

      So if you are talking to a server in SA and need low latency, then no we're not going to be it.

      We are building out our direct network - as part of that we will be doing a POP in Adelaide at some point. Not sure when though.

      As for Vocus and their network, I am as much in the dark as you guys. This exercise is a good test! We know it is not as good as our direct network. However we only use them at layer 2, most of the smaller providers just resell their layer 3 product so they are also dependant on Vocus's IP Transit, peering etc.

      We work very closely with our IP Transit provider to give us really good international links both East and West, designed for gaming, and it is constantly improving. If anyone is getting a crap route somewhere ping us, we may be able to fix it. You wouldn't believe the hack we did around ESO's DDoS new protection that resulting in them using a pretty poor link to the US :-)

      So we're a small operator, we will always be small, but we are agile and we love this stuff.

    • How much are you paying?

  • +3

    Seriously curious why the name "launtel"? From outside, sounds like a money laundering entity 😂

    • +1

      They’re based in Launceston. And offer telecommunication services

      • +1

        Ah.. Could have be "Hotel" too eh 😂

  • -1

    So we breaking down the cents by days now lol

    • +1

      So you can put the service on hold for a few days/weeks when you are away.

  • NBN is coming to my area on April 24 (Newtown in Sydney). I am currently with Dodo and if I stay with them I can get a free NBN modem. But i can change over straight away so was thinking I will do just that. Any issues with using a Dodo modem when I change over to Launtel when NBN arrives and I have my modem?

    I'm not a techie at all (and thus don't understand 90% of the comments on this thread), so be kind :)

    • You shouldn't have an issue using the Dodo modem as long as it's a VDSL2 modem for FTTN, if you have HFC or FTTP you can use the WAN port, but do not stay with Dodo, their NBN service is not great. And the modem, it won't be great but it will work.

      I have a post in here about good cheap modems.

      Aussie also have a free modem deal, which they might put on hold until you sign up.

      • Thanks.
        I don't understand any of this comment:

        "a VDSL2 modem for FTTN, if you have HFC or FTTP you can use the WAN port"

        But if I get this modem you suggested from an earlier post:

        "https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/TP-Link-Archer-VR500V-AC1200-Dual-Band-Wireless-VoIP-VDSL2-ADSL2-Modem-Router/123717670318?epid=13020203114&hash=item1cce25d5ae:g:o0AAAOSwyhVdv4Sc

        it'll do the job for Launtel, right?

        Now thinking I'll do that rather than get the free modem dodo offer and, likely, have endless hassle with them when I try and cancel

        • Yeah, much better to get your own modem, the ones i listed will handle any NBN connection out of the box easily. TP Link is probably easier to manage, most TP LINK boxes have an APP now.

          If you have a big house, use a separate WiFi network plugged into your modem. Called a mesh, also easy to setup.

          Chuck your address in here: It will say "Technology Used" if you get FTTC or FTTP, consider your self a lottery winner!

          https://www.nbnco.com.au/learn/rollout-map

          • +2

            @checkingthisout: awesome, thanks. decision made - I'll be making Dodo extinct on April 24 when NBN comes.

          • @checkingthisout: hey there,

            my address returned with HFC (neither FTTN or FTTP).

            We use wifi mostly of the time in the house (hardly ethernet cable). I was recommended with two options:

            Ubiquiti AmpliFi Instant Wireless Mesh Router

            or

            Netgear AC1750 Dual Band WiFi Router R6400

            How does these two compared to TP-Link? And just to make sure the router above are only equipment I need to purchase for nbn connection? Someone mention the need to buy a modem (a bit confused).

            • @seek: Buy the Ubiquiti instant wireless mesh, it's simple, i have one and it allows decent management. If your budget allows it, cheaper option below which can be price matched at office works.

              You only need the LAN port, essentially the ethernet port coming out of the NBN box, which is black.

              Run the ethernet cable into the one WAN port on the Ubiquiti instant and that's it.

              You will get an IP address assigned by Launtel and after a few minutes you should connect.

              You can price match these at office works also.

              https://www.catch.com.au/product/tp-link-deco-e4-2-pack-ac12…

              • @checkingthisout: thank you so much.

                Does the TP Link (catch link provided) does a similar job to Ubiquiti?

                I believe officeworks is TP-Link AC1200 Deco M4 Mesh WiFi System whereas catch.com is E4. Not sure what's the difference. Is M4 superior than E4 I presume OW will say no price match for non-identical items.

                Also may I please confirm your referral link still works to receive referral bonus?

                • @seek: The TP Link is a wireless router in a singular point. The mesh networks i am recommending create a larger wireless footprint. The instant is a mesh network, you can get a pack of two online for around $299.

                  My code is still working and people are receiving their credits :)

                  https://www.scorptec.com.au/product/Networking/Modems-&-Routers/81591-Deco-M4(2-pack)?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIo8mVn5rJ6AIVWh0rCh2yaw8YEAQYAyABEgLYjfD_BwE

                  Price matched the above with success. Both are fine. If you like better remote management then the below is better.

                  https://www.officeworks.com.au/shop/officeworks/p/tp-link-de…

                  • @checkingthisout: thanks. I will sign up using the link. Good to know it works.

                    Excuse my lack of knowledge about IT and routers and thanks for being patient.

                    In layman's term, I just want to make sure TP-Link AC1200 Deco M4 Mesh does a similar job to Ubiquiti AmpliFi Instant Wireless Mesh Router.

                    In car terms, can I make the analogy that Ubiquiti is like VW Tiguan and TP-Link AC1200 Deco M4 Mesh could be more like Mazda CX-5 or Toyota RAV4. VW wears european badge and a bit dearer. However, they effectively do the same job.

                    When people talking about medium (Ubiquiti) vs low end (TP-Link AC1200 Deco M4 Mesh), I am not sure what sets them apart high, medium vs low end.

  • My billing cycle (I think) is roughly starting the 2nd of every month with Aussie BB. What are the steps I should take if I want to churn over to Launtel without having an internet outage?

    • What technology type do you have?

      You can find out here:

      https://www.nbnco.com.au/learn/rollout-map

      • HFC, sorry. I've been connected for approximately 2 months now!

        • +1

          For HFC you will need to churn from one connection to another, with downtime, sometimes 30 minutes or more, sometimes less. Piece of string with NBN.

          If you do this a few days before your Aussie contract ends, you can churn within minutes/hours. Do it morning to be safe on a weekday.

          Aussie will want a phone call to make sure they cancel your service.

          Use one of the referral codes to save $25 or so for the first month.

  • +1

    Vocus Agg CVC - 95% right now. People must be streaming!

  • So easy to switch, saw the deal clicked a couple of buttons and using it to post this message.

    Speeds seems great so far.

  • My service is up and running. Weirdly enough fluctuating a lot between 40-80Mbpx on a 100/40 service. I am in Dubbo NSW though…

    Any suggestion on DNS? My router is still pointed to Exetel

    • +1

      Any suggestion on DNS?

      I've recently started using 1.1.1.1

    • +1

      Use our DNS servers. They will always respond faster than an external one, because they are closer to you. We hand out the DNS addresses as part of the DHCP response.

  • Sounds like a good deal for people who travel a lot or for holiday houses.

  • +2

    okay,
    initial review.

    Previously:

    ABB - 50/20 plan - average speed 45 down, 16 up, 10 ping
    Superloop - 50/20 plan - avg speed 47 down, 18 up, 9 ping
    This - 50/20 - avg speed 40 ish down, 19 ish up, 35 ping.

    so far it seems a little slower - international speed were best done by superloop and imo ABB for me had the best customer service and app.

    ill see how i go and give it the full week but ill have to decide by the end of the trial i guess…

    • Ha! I've gone a similar route. ABB->Superloop->ABB->Launtel.
      Yes the speeds fluctuate a lot and the latency has always been high.
      Hopefully they can do something about that and it is just a limitation of their current network config.
      My front end experience has been pretty good for what I do though so I am not too fussed.

      • Same. AU -> SL -> AU -> LT

        Aussie are excellent.

        Superloop was terrible. Dropouts. Speed issues. Support was non existent.

        Launtel had more consistent speeds but a higher ping than Aussie ping is roughly 29ms before it was sub 20’s. Launtel was super solid. FTTN connection so nothing is excellent. After the ozbargain thing. It’s been up and down and all over. So we will see how it goes after things settle down.

        But really, the premium network is still Aussie for me and it comes with a premium price.

        • +1

          For me at the 25/5 range, Aussie is $55 for 100GB (Older plan), we contantly go over or "shapped". New plan is $69 / Unlimited.

          So even at $1.99 a day for lautel it's pretty good imo.

          • @Turd: The prices even after discount for me are still good. But still would prefer any techie telco to be able to afford owning it’s own POI connections. Happy to pay a small premium to get that.

            Need less “just a pipe” telcos.

            • +1

              @checkingthisout: Yeah agreed. I have TPG FTTB $60 a month (Not NBN) at my main residence. Nothing can compere to that but yeah I agree Launet has a neiche market for techie users.

              • @Turd: I've been getting 92Mbps - 110Mbps (yes not sure how) on fast.com today.

                • @checkingthisout: Nice!

                  On vocus backbone?

                  Speed doesnt matter for me much tbh, streaming still works when we had 20/1 ADSL2+. So 25/5 is good enough.

                  • @Turd: Yeah we're on Vocus in QLD. For me speeds and consistency are key, we're picky, thus Aussie or anyone close to Aussie and nothing less. Lots of people happy with just a connection though. Fast is 99-100mbps on certain runs. So never had that before. Which is great.

                    • @checkingthisout: Being in Tassie it's not directly comparable to people on Vocus, but Launtel has been very consistent since I've moved to them. I was with Internode for 12.5 years with no real complaints, but looking at logs Internode is far less consistent with latency than Launtel has been.

                      Here's the last since months, and you can notice where I switched to Launtel at the end of January (and in fact the last few days the latency has dropped from an average of 13.7ms down to 11.5ms). Download and upload speeds have also been similarly rock solid (which to be fair, they generally were on Internode as well).

                      https://imgur.com/Yl6Xbfc

  • Does anyone know This: "IPv4 Address Perpetual Lease"

    "This product will entitle you to use a static, real world routable (non-CGNAT) IPv4 address on a single connection at a time with Launtel for as long as you need it at no extra charge. At a time you no longer need this you may surrender it for a full refund of the purchase price. Unfortunately due to internet restrictions you are unable to take this IPv4 address to another provider."

    So does this mean you pay $150 and you get a Static IP address? Then when you leave you get the $150 back?

    • Yes. That is correct. You’re given the refund.

    • That's what it says in what you've quoted. I've paid the $150 up front for an IPv4 address which I've allocated to our connection.

      The other option is to pay a daily rate, but since it says you get a full refund if you surrender the IPv4 in the future, it made sense to go with the $150 up front. Even if they don't refund the full amount, after 1.5 years I'd be better off anyway (with no refund).

      • Ya that's what I was thinking.

        Thanks

        • Just FYI: Once signed up you purchase it through the portal. From memory when I did it, it was available within a few minutes and then you had to allocate it to the connection (as you can have multiple services under the one account).

          • +1

            @odgregg: Yep was easy. After a few mins, I allocated the unallocated IP to the connection.

  • I signed up around 9am this morning for my FTTC connection and still waiting for the provision to complete. How long does this usually take?

    • +1

      There is a back log of orders because they need to at this time order the NBN connection through Vocus instead of ordering directly from NBN directly.

      Mine took 3-4 hours. FTTN.

      They got ozbargain'd

      • Mine took 56 minutes. :) But that was prior to the big inlux.

      • Hmm, it has now been more than 24 hours now and still no update. I did receive a call from their support just to ask me if I already have an NBN modem, but wasn't able to give me an ETA on when the connection will complete.

        • +3

          Best have a chat with their support or send them an email.

          Without knowing your exact details it is hard to say why it's taking so long.

          • @Turd: Thanks Turd, I'll give it another day as I still have an active connection, so no rush.

          • -1

            @Turd: That's a rather shitty username you have there Turd!

          • @Turd: Just got connected a couple of hours ago. So far so good, as of 5pm I am currently getting 95.5/down, 36.5/up and 17ms latency. Will monitor the speeds, especially during peak time.

            • @mangolassi: Awesome! =)

            • +1

              @mangolassi: As you are in QLD, you will be sharing the Vocus Agg CVC.

              If you compare today's graph with yesterday's, it looks like being on track to get caned even worse during peak hours tonight unless the CVC is increased.

              • @robinCTS: What are people downloading!!!

                • @Turd: Who knows ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (I'm not one of the 😉)

              • @robinCTS: I'm in Melbourne now. Forgot to update my profile

                • +1

                  @mangolassi: 👍 Unless you're on the Bendigo POI, you'll be on the Vocus aggregate.

                  • @robinCTS: Yep, pretty sure I'm on Vocus. Ok my evening speeds are averaging around 54 down, 35 up.. I can live with this as I will most likely downgrade to 50mbps and don't see a need for me to stick to the 100 plan unless I'm wanting to download a ton of stuff on a particular day. Overall I'm satisfied with Launtel and I don't think I will be changing anytime soon. I have a few overseas holidays lined up this year and the simplicity to pause the daily connection charge and change the speeds is a bonus.

                    • @mangolassi: Interesting. The graph doesn't really seem to support those speeds. Maybe I'm missing something.

              • @robinCTS:

                it looks like being on track to get caned even worse during peak hours tonight

                And as is usual with most predictions, it turns out this was not the case.

                • @robinCTS: Other than the slowness on the first evening, I've been getting nearly full speeds since. Last night before 9pm I ran a test and was getting 95/35.

                  • @mangolassi: Yep. Hadn't checked the graphs for a couple of days, so I don't know when it happened, but Launtel have bought another 100Mb of CVC. That, at least in part, seems to have resolved the issue.

  • +1

    Signed up saturday midnight and got mine connected on sunday at 5pm after emailing to confirm about one hour before (forgot to click churn). Took all about 15-30 minutes from offline.

    since then, i've found with games my pings are a lot more consistent (prior spiking between 230-300ms on us servers) to a stable 220ms

    downloads and uploads were a lot more consistent and higher as well for me whereas before i was yoyoing like mad.

    I've been having frequent friday midday to saturday morning disconnects with my previous provider, so if this doesnt happen im a happy bugger.

    • Care to say your type of connection and previous provider? Great to hear.

      • Sounds like Dodo!

        • Ironic cause Dodo is Vocus and Launtel use Vocus, but Dodo should be just that, a Dodo.

          • +1

            @checkingthisout: haha it was actually myrepublic.

            They never gave me any trouble initially but in the last year or so they have had trouble in really unfortunate times.

            Everytime i work from home on friday it just dies and then I go through the painful 1hr process of getting it lodged via bot like troubleshooting. Comes back 12-1am saturday everytime..

            The worst is the fact that i've sent them the same thing constantly. I even suggested a long time ago about getting a NBN tech out to get an attenuator… which they did do after a year of me lodging everytime i disconnected. This sorta fixed the problem. Also didnt help after reading that some people had grandfathered plans that were FAR cheaper than what they offered me when i was forced to switch. I was a very early adopter :/

            I got pretty sick of doing the same troubleshooting and them asking all the questions so this came at a good time.

            • +1

              @kkiet: From what I've heard if there is an NBN issue Damian and Launtel will sniff it out.

  • +1

    Churned from Telstra last night as they were increasing my 50/20 to $90 p/m shortly.

    Very smooth transition, currently getting

    PING 23 ms
    DOWNLOAD 93.61 Mbps
    UPLOAD 19.19 Mbps

    on Speedtest using Launtel server in Sydney

    Im located on the Gold Coast.

  • I churned on Sunday and service has been all over. 85 mbps at times then down as low as 35-40, couple of drop outs. Not super stoked :(

    • We have had that too currently, i trust them to be able to fix it though, do reach out to support, i think the influx from Ozbargain may have presented some issues.

      They have nearly doubled their CVC usage in a few days, so sure it will flatten out soon.

      https://residential.launtel.net.au/traffic-graphs/CVCV000000…

      • +1

        Yeah I've been keeping an eye on the Vocus CVC to see how fast they react to their increased userbase. Still got a few weeks left on my current month before I am looking at moving over.

      • +1

        That Vocus Agg CVC URL (https://residential.launtel.net.au/traffic-graphs/CVCV00000000086) shows the current day's graph, dynamically.

        Might be a good idea to always post the one with the date suffix, e.g. Monday's graph is https://residential.launtel.net.au/traffic-graphs/CVCV00000000086/2020-02-24. (A simple way to generate it for the current day is to click "Previous Day" and then "Next Day".)

        Looks like Vocus Agg CVC got smashed on Monday. Time for Launtel to buy more capacity again? Or do you expect demand to drop, after the initial flurry of speed tests/Linux distro downloads, etc has subsided?

        • Ok, noted. Didn't realize that. Yeah, someone is downloading a lot of stuff or there has been a 50-100% increase in subscribers. Be nice if NBN offered a trial period too, so that churning wasn't such a mess for small providers.

          • +1

            @checkingthisout:

            Ok, noted. Didn't realize that.

            Looks like you're not the only one. Seems Damian "forgot" about that too in this comment 😀

            Another point - if you look at the graph in that comment (and previous days' graphs) it shows the maximum as 600Mb. That means the graphs are not an accurate representation of the actual usage versus the maximum available at the time. Would be nice if the maximum is also tracked. (There would be a nice step from 400Mb to 600Mb sometime on the 23rd.)

            Yeah, someone is downloading a lot of stuff

            🤔 I wonder how many are just taking advantage of the free 7-day trail, after hearing about it here, and are planning on churning back/cancelling when it's up? Might see a drop in usage in about a week's time.

            • +2

              @robinCTS: I for one am planning on staying :)

  • -1

    Stop downloading GoT or Linux isos!

    Affecting other ozbargainers!

  • Their NBN25 plan and 5GB data per day (incl Databank), Can anyone clarify Databank and if one only gets 5Gb to begin with?
    ABOUT: https://launtel.net.au/databank/

    It starts off with "A typical monthly plan from most ISPs includes a certain amount of data you can use during that month, say 600GB"

    Later goes on to say: So we came up with the databank concept – essentially allowing you to “rollover” your unused data each day into a “bank”. Then at the weekends you could exceed the daily topup and draw on the databank again. We have set a high limit on the databank, 3000GB (3TB), so that over time this databank would generally fill up and then people could just forget about any data limits.

    MY Question: Am I right in thinking that one initially only gets 5GB when signing up and each day thereafter. If one does not use it all, that the remainder gets banked up to a Max of 3TB? Having said that if one indeed uses 5GB per day then the Databank has no real gain?

    My Concern: 5GB on startup is very low if this is all that is given. I love the Databank idea and potential MAX of 3TB but it would take 600 days of not using the 5GB to reach that! I suspect I am not understanding something correctly, can anyone clarify?

    • "There is no download charge for any downloads between midnight and 6am!"

      "If you're in Tasmania it seems like Unlimited to most users, however there's a daily allocation of 25GB and this adds to your Databank which is just like a bank account in that it can build up. Any data you use will be deducted from this balance. Your unused data will roll over and accumulate up to a 3000GB (3 Terabytes) limit."

      If it is 5GB/Day or 150GB a month, I'd say Aussie has them beat here and that would be my first choice for another $6 a month.

      • Am in Sydney (forgot to note that part)!

        • If you're in Sydney, there is no 5GB a month, it is unlimited. Have you entered your address in and check the CIS?

    • When I signed up for a trial in January (when they didn't have unlimited) they credited my databank with 250GB of data to start with. Before unlimited rates, the higher speeds than 25/5 had a daily 25GB quota (and some of the higher speeds had 50GB/day). Under those the 3TB limit made more sense and you'd get there somewhat faster.

      Or you can manually top it up as well by buying a datapack (eg. the top datapack is 500GB for $55). Those are available through the portal.

      • Correction: Looking at the databank page in the portal, the "signup free data" was 200GB (not 250GB). And while I was on that trial (only a couple of days) I banked another 30GB from unused data (from the 25GB/day).

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