Is This a Good Deal? - Tesla ML3 Long Range AWD

sid4frnds on 17/02/2025 - 12:23

Tesla Gurus, as the title suggests, is this a fair price for this car? I have checked other cars on Carsales/Marketplace and my understanding is that it is a little bit higher but buying it directly from Tesla gets me:

One-year extra warranty on the vehicle.

Acceleration boost (For sporadic shits and giggles) -$3000 add on a new car

Enhanced Autopilot - $5000 on a new car.

Peace of mind that it has been checked by Tesla.

If I were to order a new car spec to spec, it would cost me 75k today. Thanks much.

Automotive Car Electric Vehicle Tesla Inc

Comments

  • pegaxs on 17/02/2025 - 12:33
    +48

    Sure, it's a great deal if you are an Elon boot licker and like supporting a Nazi sympathizing arse clown oligarch on government welfare.

    I say go for it… And feel free to come back and post when someone keys your car and spray paints "(fropanity) Elon!" all over it.

    Queue negs MAGA tears

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    • Mike444 on 17/02/2025 - 12:35
      +25

      cue*

      • Protractor on 17/02/2025 - 12:52
        +26

        In this case, on this forum both are correct.

      • Protractor on 17/02/2025 - 13:16
        +35

        Which truth do you think is (a) unfair or (b) untrue.>
        "a Nazi sympathizing arse clown oligarch on government welfare"
        It's basically the guys CV and mission statement

        • Protractor on 17/02/2025 - 13:58
          +13

          'crickets'

        • Bidet Mate on 18/02/2025 - 11:22
          +2

          which is the sympathizing bit?
          Other than the weird salute I can't find him talking about them

          • Protractor on 18/02/2025 - 11:30
            -4

            @Bidet Mate: You cannot be so naive as to have missed he and Vance endorsing AfD? Why are there so many apologists? Are you aligned with his support too?

            • Bidet Mate on 18/02/2025 - 12:03
              +1

              @Protractor: They don't appear to be nazis?

              • Protractor on 18/02/2025 - 12:32
                -7

                @Bidet Mate: 'Don't appear".
                I guess that explains the rise of Nazism across the world,inc here.

                • Bidet Mate on 18/02/2025 - 13:06
                  +4

                  @Protractor: Unironically agree with you. If you call everyone a Nazi then their numbers will grow by default.

                  • Protractor on 18/02/2025 - 13:12
                    -2

                    @Bidet Mate: Username accuracy overload alert!

                    Great deliberate word in mouth apologism.
                    You deny the rise of Nazism in the face of evidence? Including in recent days dozens of news stories, which include ongoing warnings from all Australian security orgs. Including how recruitment is rife.
                    (inc how one family whose family suffered at the hands of Nazis, had a family member recruited into local neo Nazi activity and paraphernalia)
                    You look away from the multiple Victorian incidents and all the organised interstate incursions.

                    Your attitude slides you closer to the problem end of the scale, than the solution end.Perhaps by choice..

    • Iwantthebestprice on 17/02/2025 - 12:50
      +57

      You sound unhinged. Get some help.

      Your logic of destroying someone’s property because you don’t like the CEO is the most idiotic reasoning I’ve heard, primary school children are taught to respect other people’s property, I see you missed that part of growing up.

      Going by your logic, I should go spray paint f**k CCP all over a BYD because I don’t agree with the human right violations of the communist Chinese government. Or muslims should start keying the the cars because they disagree with the treatment of the ethnic Muslim minorities in China?

      Grow up.

      • Caped Baldy on 17/02/2025 - 13:26

        Your logic of destroying someone’s property because you don’t like the CEO is the most idiotic reasoning I’ve heard, primary school children are taught to respect other people’s property, I see you missed that part of growing up.

        I'm fairly sure Tesla's are more prone to getting keyed than any other car. Mainly the numpties that dislike electric cars…

        • stratbargain on 17/02/2025 - 13:31
          +3

          Or they are just more widely reported on social media as Tesla has sentry mode that records every time a car is keyed.

          My brothers new Subaru outlook got keyed the first day he parked at a shop. Some people just don't like other people having new shiny things.

        • mboy on 17/02/2025 - 13:33
          +4

          You think the car with cameras covering every angle, capable of recording all motion events in its proximity, is more likely to get keyed than any other car?

      • dealsucker on 17/02/2025 - 16:57
        +3

        Exactly! Its like we are evolving backwards to tribal instincts.

        • GregRust on 18/02/2025 - 08:57
          +1

          Devolving?

      • PerthMan96 on 17/02/2025 - 21:35
        +2

        Crickets from Pagaxs and his simps

        • Bidet Mate on 18/02/2025 - 11:29
          +1

          Not quite crickets, he silently downvoted you haha

      • Pufff on 18/02/2025 - 12:44
        -1

        Nice examples
        You missed the treatment of aboriginals by aus and African Americans by the usa.
        I'm sure it was an oversight though right?

      • franz87 on 18/02/2025 - 17:04
        -3

        Nice straw man. Pegaxs said nothing about condoning such actions, only that there is a good chance folks would make that choice given how the brand is now associated with a Nazi sympathizing arse clown oligarch on government welfare.

        Grow up.

      • Purp on 19/02/2025 - 09:21

        these people live on reddit in their cult of denial an delusion. there's no fixing what they have.

      • belongsinforums on 19/02/2025 - 23:30

        or key an australian business because of the genocide committed by the australian government that is the stolen generation

    • LVlahov on 17/02/2025 - 12:59
      +4

      It sounds like the tears are your own to be honest.

    • Protractor on 17/02/2025 - 13:22
      +7

      You should get an extra badge for value adding, by inadvertently making a list of Herr Elon's Fanbois in the votes.

      • Fredfloresjr on 17/02/2025 - 13:28
        -4

        Nah, it is just so sad that w**rd people are behaving like that when OP is just asking simple question.

        I mean, yeah it's just weird lol.

        • Protractor on 17/02/2025 - 13:32
          +15

          Personally I think pointing out the morals and ethics (or lack thereof) of the bloke at the top is a fair call.
          aka lining his pocket is further enabling the toxic feral behaviour that was pointed out, and the ongoing ideological bullying of minorities and political opponents, is also worthy of scrutiny in any market place.
          How often has the forum seen shrill posts here calling for boycotts because woke?
          (eg Big W CEO and Straya Day sad sacks)
          The tide has turned.People defending Musks behaviour are woke

            • Protractor on 17/02/2025 - 13:40
              +3

              @Fredfloresjr: Not it's not and there's no comparison. Musks toxic behaviour is toxic, globally impactful and live.You can't filter out the good bits and look away from the big picture truth.

              "Is it weird isn't it?? FFS, the group of people like you is the reason why TRUMP abolished your same kind. LOL"
              Sick stuff
              You're the guy who needs help dude.

              • CaptainJack on 17/02/2025 - 13:54
                +1

                @Protractor: Yeah but who cares. You're welcome to hate Elmo, but why do we have to hear about it when no one asked? OP just wants to know about buying a car. Frankly you guys are weird and just as annoying as the Tesla fanbois (although don't seem to hear as much from them now thankfully).

                • Protractor on 17/02/2025 - 14:00
                  +1

                  @CaptainJack: Pulls the apathy blanket up,rolls over and goes back to sleep.

                • fantombloo on 17/02/2025 - 14:18
                  +1

                  @CaptainJack:

                  although don't seem to hear as much from them now thankfully

                  Then Protractor's type of tactics might be working?

                  • cloudy on 17/02/2025 - 21:09

                    @fantombloo: Pretty sure the fanboys are quieting down due to Elon being so over the top even they are shying away.

          • PerthMan96 on 17/02/2025 - 21:36
            -1

            @Protractor: personally i think anyone without common sense is obvious to find and avoid now.

    • bargaino on 17/02/2025 - 13:38
      -4

      Who cares? Transparent virtue signalling.

      OK, if you actually can name the CEOs of Toyota, Ford, etc and bought your own car after checking the politics of the company owners, then I retract.

      Henry Ford was a raving anti-semite, VW and Mitsubishi were deeply involved in war crimes, but yelling about that is not really fashionable, is it?

      • Protractor on 17/02/2025 - 13:43
        +9

        Who cares? You do. You rush in to defend Musk and attack his detractors every time, and yet nEVER acknowledge the feral shit he keeps on doing. Public Nazi salute dude.Nazi salute.Twice.Supports a neo Nazi party with Nazi roots, as does his work colleague now. Good old Vance.
        Musk is actively shaping global politics for the worse.He's more than fair game.As should be his sponsors.

          • Protractor on 17/02/2025 - 19:53
            +6

            @arkie0: Lol is the operative word, Doctored stills from a corrupt media and social media. Did they also endorse a neo Nazi party with roots back to the Nazi party real?
            Honestly even Musk isn't walking away.He's digging deeper into it.

            Just to round this off so nobody gets the wrong end of the RWNJ stick> "Misleading Material.

            All of these images have been stripped of context and there is no verifiable information that these figures made a "Nazi" salute. The photos of Harris and Obama do not depict what could be understood, even insincerely, as that gesture

            None of the Democratic politicians referred to have supported the prominent far-right figures that Musk has recently shown admiration of, a fact neglected from the social media posts by Libs of TikTok and others despite the claims of a double standard.

            Musk has referred to the argument against him as "dirty tricks" and Newsweek is not making a judgment as to the intention behind his own gesture

            The claims specifically against Obama, Harris, Clinton, or Warren are misleading because they are based on media that has been altered from its original form, either intentionally or unintentionally

            FACT CHECK BY Newsweek's Fact Check team** "

          • GregRust on 18/02/2025 - 08:59

            @arkie0: Not a great example, not at all comparable.

            • arkie0 on 18/02/2025 - 10:58

              @GregRust: I wasn't saying if he was or wasn't doing a nazi salute, my point is corrupt media and social media on both sides to try to influence the narrative.

              Not sure why one side of the corrupt media is better than the other side of the corrupt media.

              • LFO on 18/02/2025 - 12:03
                -4

                @arkie0:

                doing a nazi salute

                Generic digression:

                What exactly is that?
                "Nazi salute", the salute used by the National Socialism (Nationalsozialismus) political party dismembered and disbanded in 1945?

                Or are we talking about **the Roman salute … the HAIL CAESAR !!! ** thingy?

                Embarrassing how most our society is stuck in the past.
                Perhaps comparable to the MacArthur era of: you are a communist! Embarrassing. And sad.

                /end

                • Protractor on 18/02/2025 - 17:11

                  @LFO: and totally ignore the Musk Vance push to get the AfD more votes in Germany of all places. Pretty easy to spot the apologists.Always looking for an escape route for the perps.

      • mskeggs on 17/02/2025 - 13:45
        +11

        Pretty sure Ford and Mitsubishi CEOs aren't currently sending out their love with a Roman salute or supporting AfD, which is a pretty substantial difference.

        • bargaino on 17/02/2025 - 14:02
          -8

          But be honest, you don't actually know or care.
          Are you one of those people who swore to never again watch another Woody Allen movie? Or anything from Weinstein?

          • mskeggs on 17/02/2025 - 14:08
            +12

            @bargaino: I don't know or care about resurgent Nazis? Give me a break.

            Do you feel Adolf Hitler was just misunderstood? Or do you not know or care?

          • Protractor on 17/02/2025 - 14:09
            +2

            @bargaino: The standard you walk past is the standard you accept.
            But that was obvious long ago.Only you ran.

            • bargaino on 17/02/2025 - 14:16
              -6

              @Protractor: The standard is stupidity.
              It is like a student pro-Palestine protest. It makes them feel good, and they are vaguely aware of war-crime by Israel, but they don't really have a figgin clue about the geo-politics.

              Your moral posturing makes you feel superior, but the crimes against democracy go on. Urinating in ones trousers.

              • Protractor on 17/02/2025 - 14:23

                @bargaino: Boy, you must have lost some blood on your lip avoiding the W word.
                Are you really wetting yourself while posting?

                TMI

                • bargaino on 17/02/2025 - 14:29
                  -2

                  @Protractor: Oh I'm soaked. Can you hear how stupid and childish you sound?

                  There are real crimes going on, including eroding and ignoring the power of congress, replacing rule of law by dictatorship.
                  But you go on posturing about trivialities like hand gestures,while apparenly clueless about the real crimes. RFK jr just got confirmed FFS!

                  • Protractor on 17/02/2025 - 14:38
                    -2

                    @bargaino: And you think Musk is not a threat? Not a main player? You have defended him (often) Why? Tesla owner with a guilt complex? Just a fan?
                    Do you not think Trump asked his opinion on Kennedy? Got the nod.Do you not think Musk is removing all those who threaten HIS ideology? Mate, Trump and Musk are the same swamp.Musk is weilding an idelogical scalpel, and laying (after buying it) out the red carpet for the whacko anti vaxxer making America stupid (and sicker) again.
                    AfD is not an urban choir, and the VP openly barracks for them. I'd say Musk has more of Trumps ear that he does, and he's actively supporting AfD. I wonder if they take crypto donations?

                    • bargaino on 17/02/2025 - 14:58
                      +3

                      @Protractor: Please stop the strawmen. Must is scary as hell to me. Why put words in other people's mouths?
                      I'm a fan of SpaceX, in the same way I also think the Saturn V was awesome, despite being designed by Von Braun, an actual Nazi. Can you see how it is possible to separate those things?

                      Do you not think Trump asked his opinion on Kennedy?

                      I've no idea. Do you have any informed insight?

                      As far as Tesla goes, the best thing Musk could do now is to step down from all roles. They no longer need him.
                      Musk has an impressive history of building ruthless but effective cost-cutting teams, but in engineering environments. I would assign his people to cut costs in military supply, not the State Department. Does that help clarify?

                      • Protractor on 17/02/2025 - 15:07

                        @bargaino: Nope not really.It does not clarify the multiple times you have stepped in and defended him in multiple posts.

                        Musk is a self induced target, despite the technical achievements he has used the notoriety to expose who he really is. Not by mistake. He's giving a voice to an ideology the rest of society have chosen to (almost unanimously) assign to Pariah status for all time. It's not rocket science.
                        He is up for as much scrutiny as he can possibly get. He wanted it , he can't cherry pick the focus.

                        You don't need any insight into what's going on in Musks (Trumps, & the actual world) world. His ego hangs it all out to dry. Musk is there to eviscerate any opposition to their agenda. Even an independent judiciary when he gets to it.Wherever they are it has been made clear they are coming for them.

                        https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-02-17/trump-bring-back-nucl…
                        It's not about saving Americans money at all.

                        • bargaino on 17/02/2025 - 15:23
                          +1

                          @Protractor: Are you aware scale of the fiscal problem ? $1.83 trillion deficit in 2024, including $0.7T in interest payments, which is rapidly rising.
                          The situation is desperate. It is too late to be careful. Actually, I suspect it is still too little, too late. But worth a try.

                          You may favour the approach taken by PNSR back in 2006? (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_on_National_Security_R…),

                          • Protractor on 17/02/2025 - 15:25

                            @bargaino: Nice subterfuge isn't it."Saving America,y'all!"

                            I notice Elon has pumped out number 13. Doing his bit? Any 'diverse' mothers in the list yet?

                            • bargaino on 17/02/2025 - 15:26

                              @Protractor: And there you go back to form.

                              The head of the DOGE admitted: "Well, first of all, some of the things that I say will be incorrect and should be corrected. So nobody’s going to bat a thousand. I mean, any, you know, we will make mistakes but will act quickly to correct any mistakes.”

                              • Protractor on 17/02/2025 - 15:48
                                -1

                                @bargaino: I have read that pathetic excuse already. People in his position have a responsibility. That responsibility is not driven by ego,feral behaviour and dialogue or totally irrational actions.

                                It's not even code. It's saying, "just like Trump I'll use overt lies to insult,slur,distract,bully,belittle,undermine,slander etc, and if there's a later gain for retracting I'll give that a burl too.
                                It's just another tool in the tool box for the RWNJ regime of oligarchic America.

                                MAGA,
                                Milking Americas Gullible Aspirants
                                I wonder how many of the 13 women are Tradwives?
                                https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/us-politics/wild…

                                Back to form yourself.Defending Must

                                • bargaino on 17/02/2025 - 15:51

                                  @Protractor: Listen to yourself. As bad as Trump. All emotion and bluster, insults and vague claims, no substance.
                                  Attacking motives is a mark of a weak argument, because it can never be proved or disproved, just makes you feel superior. Facts are more work.

                                  • Protractor on 17/02/2025 - 15:58

                                    @bargaino: I'm not attacking motives mate,I'm highlighting a modus operandi. Musks and now clearly yours.

                                    Here you are regurgitating rank hypocrisy. Musk can say whatever he wants, despite the unfettered power and privilege he has , but his critics have to be silenced by enablers and supporters like you.Limited to statements that you endorse but give you a reason to reject the truths you don't like?

          • coffeeinmyveins on 17/02/2025 - 16:26

            @bargaino:

            But be honest, you don't actually know or care.

            Classic musk fanboi response.

            They're not. But you're trying to build a strawman.

            Elon makes a nazi salute so you just say "well you don't know that they didn't either!"

      • coffeeinmyveins on 17/02/2025 - 16:25
        +1

        OK, if you actually can name the CEOs of Toyota, Ford, etc and bought your own car after checking the politics of the company owners, then I retract.

        Oh boy, I was waiting for this comment.

        The reason you can't name those CEO's is because they aren't blasting everyone with their personal beliefs and building a cult.

        People didn't buy Tesla's in the early days, they bought the cult of Elon.

        And now you are all "hur dur don't buy a car because of the owner".

    • askbargain on 17/02/2025 - 14:09

      Nazi’s like Mercedes not Tesla.

      • BartholemewH on 17/02/2025 - 18:00

        Not anymore.

        • askbargain on 17/02/2025 - 18:26

          Are you speaking from experience?

    • mboy on 17/02/2025 - 14:09
      +1

      It's such a shame that this comment gets so many upvotes when it seems like the sentiment is "You can't buy a Tesla without tacitly supporting Elon, so don't complain when it ends up getting keyed or vandalised".

      It's a radical approach to trying to cut down Elon; cut down his customers, despite the fact that the vast majority of Teslas on the road were sold before he went nuts. But that's irrelevant, we can't reach Elon directly, so let's damage innocent people's property instead.

    • OzzyOzbourne on 17/02/2025 - 14:28
      -6

      I see a lot of insults and anger towards Musk, people getting very emotional and hating anyone who doesn't agree with them, but no hard facts and evidence as to what Musk is doing that's so terribly wrong and harmful vs any good that he is doing.

      • CaptainJack on 17/02/2025 - 15:24

        Apparently Musk is implementing an ideology. Not sure what, still waiting for the crazies to explain that one.

    • dealsucker on 17/02/2025 - 16:53
      +2

      Dude get some help. And dont harm yourself if Dutton is elected in Australia. Helplines are there.

    • R4 on 17/02/2025 - 18:07
      -2

      Here's to a righter, brighter future

    • TEER3X on 17/02/2025 - 19:07
      -1

      Not being a smart arse, but how does buying a used Tesla support Elon?

      I despise him as much as any other sane person, asking a genuine question.

      • Euphemistic on 17/02/2025 - 20:55
        +2

        Buying a used tesla from tesla? Tesla makes money from the sale.

        • TEER3X on 17/02/2025 - 21:00
          +1

          Seems pretty obvious now lol. Thanks.

    • PerthMan96 on 17/02/2025 - 21:31
      -3

      Absolute Simp

    • Hoang Dinh on 17/02/2025 - 23:19
      +2

      Are we on CNN in the USA, or are we on Oz bargain?

    • ConsumerAffairs on 18/02/2025 - 11:05
      -3

      Oh no, another unhinged left-wing outburst.

      The only tears here seem to only be coming from YOU.

    • kaleidoscope on 19/02/2025 - 09:08

      Can i hire some of those champs you'd mentioned? need to stfu few of my friends who has become elon boot lickers

  • MS Paint on 17/02/2025 - 12:46
    +12

    Peace of mind that it has been checked by Tesla.

    What exactly have the checked?

    • DashCam AKA Rolts on 17/02/2025 - 12:51
      +26

      What exactly have they checked?

      A: That the payment went through and has been deposited in the appropriate Cayman Is. account.

    • 87percent on 17/02/2025 - 12:52

      does it have 4 wheels?

      • HeWhoKnows on 18/02/2025 - 08:44
        +1

        Thats all they pay for when you trade in a Tesla. ….
        They have one of the highest levels of depreciation right now.

        Recently a friend was hoping to get $30,000 but only got $20,000 for a 4 year old Tesla.

        Dealers dont want to trade them.
        In the US car rental companies are stuck with thousands of Teslas because nobody wants to rent them.
        So now they are trying to offload them.(unsuccessfully)

        If you really want a used Tesla its best to buy privately and reap the benefits
        Take note of the valuation I mentioned above

        Or consider MG EV or Hybrid (even better) which is much cheaper brand new and comes with 10 year warranty

        • netjock on 18/02/2025 - 08:59
          +1

          That is not what Tesla owners are telling us!

          I still remember that infamous spreadsheet where a Tesla model 3 is cheaper over 3 years than a hybrid camry. Conveniently leaving out cost of tires, servicing (even if you haven't paid in cash you should include consumption) and also the high retained value (now we know it doesn't defy gravity after all).

          People just deluding themselves when they thought Tesla was going to some how defy everything we have known (cars depreciate). Especially considering with each year even if they do OTA the cars are not going to improve in leaps and bounds. Sure they had their iphone to iphone x moments but they're going to iphone XR territory where people start questioning whether they need to update every 2 or 3 years.

          Just wait until the novated lease crew starts to end their leases. I think there will be more tears.

          • derrida derider on 18/02/2025 - 11:38
            +10

            @netjock: They have depreciated purely because the price of a new Tesla has fallen by over a third in the last four years (that is also, BTW, the reason Hertz got their fingers burnt by Tesla - at the time they bought them Musk openly boasted that he suckered them into paying full price with no fleet discount).

            It is NOT that no-one wants them, and they are better cars than ever. It is just that they are facing crushing competition from the Chinese (especially inside China, the source of most of their profits until the last couple of years) and have been forced to slash prices.

          • changyang1230 on 18/02/2025 - 11:59
            +1

            @netjock: Is there another spreadsheet or are you referring to my novated lease one?

          • NMC on 19/02/2025 - 00:46
            -1

            @netjock: Times have changed, during COVID when supply chains we're disrupted the price of cars was detached from reality, Tesla's were holding their value.

            Currently, competition is heating up, newer better models are coming out at lower prices. And no matter how you feel about Elon and Tesla, the fact is it's having an impact. Demand is dropping, cars are coming off leases with market values less than calculated at inception. And there is currently an increased risk of vandalism. The cost of insurance is definitely rising.

            I was considering the new model Y as our next car purchase, I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole now. Unless Elon sells his interest in Tesla, it's future is uncertain

    • sid4frnds on 17/02/2025 - 13:05
      +1

      The standard blurb of 'Our 102 point checklist' which is always dubious but taking solace in the fact that they would know their car better as compared to buying it from a second-hand dealer that gets 1 ev in 6 months.

      • cloudy on 17/02/2025 - 21:18
        +2

        It’s pretty interesting they check 102 aspects yet tell owners there’s no maintenance whatsoever required (from what I heard).

        So is there things to look out for that doesn’t need looking out for while you own the car?

      • nikey2k27 on 18/02/2025 - 21:46
        -2

        it a tesla dose not need brakes to it just hit a another object

    • michaelpls on 17/02/2025 - 17:16
      +3

      88 point check

      • greatlamp on 18/02/2025 - 17:55
        +3

        No it's 102 items, in two categories, one with 14 checks, the other with 88 checks

        • michaelpls on 18/02/2025 - 20:39

          oh god. That's one fun little coincidence right there.

    • Analytical Therapist on 17/02/2025 - 19:20
      +3

      Did the front fall off?

    • HeWhoKnows on 18/02/2025 - 08:39
      -2

      I think OP has already answered their own question

    • redfox1200 on 18/02/2025 - 09:59

      the color

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