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[Used, eBay Plus] HP Z4 G4 Workstation XEON W-2145 8C 3.7GHz 32GB NVS 310 GPU 512GB SSD Win 11 $450 Delivered @MetroCom eBay

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MarketingMetroCom @ metrocom on 14/07/2023 - 11:25 ebay.com.au (687 clicks)
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A powerful office machine with 8 cores Xeon cpu (3.7-4.5GHz, supports Win11) and 32GB ECC RAM. It has good expansion capability-
2 x 3.5 inch HDD bay
2 x m.2 ssd slots (1 installed with a 512GB NVME ssd).
750W PSU.

Specs
Processor
Intel® Xeon® W-2145 Processor (8 cores 3.70GHz, up to 4.50GHz boost, 16 Threads)
Memory
32 DDR4 ECC
Operating System
Windows 11 Pro 64 (EN: English)
Storage
1 x 512GB SSD
Optical Drive
No
Ports
7 x USB 3.1 Gen 1 (2 front, 5 rear) (one of them is charging); 2 x USB Type C (front); 1 x headphones/microphone (1 in front); 1 x audio line-in;
1 x audio line-out; 1 x PS/2 keyboard; 1 x PS/2 mouse; 2 x LAN (Gigabit Ethernet)
Graphic Card
NVIDIA NVS 310 (2 x DP ports)

We also configured some of these with one of our RX 6800 if you need extra graphic power, it will handle 3A games easily.
HP Z4 G4 Workstation W2145 8 Cores 32GB 512GB SSD RX 6800 Gaming Editing PC One year warranty $900 delivered

And also some with GTX and RTX GPU.
HP Z4 G4 Workstation i7-7820X 32GB 512GB SSD GTX 1080 Gaming Editing PC WIN 11 $599 Delivered

Have a good weekend!
Cheers,
Jun

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  • stumo on 14/07/2023 - 11:30

    Seems a bit steep considering the crappy GPU. Much better workstations have been on here earlier in the year for way less money.

    • MarketingMetroCom @ metrocom on 14/07/2023 - 11:36

      Hi Agree the GPU is crappy but for most office jobs, cpu and ram are more important. You might be refering the previous Z640 with M6000 deals (great deal!). But those are with a V3 Xeon E5 CPUs with no WIN 11 support.

      • ozbozb on 14/07/2023 - 11:46

        would you be able to offer a better gpu or the 1080 with the original setup for a slight increase?

      • Mitch889 on 14/07/2023 - 12:33

        For most office jobs you could do with far less than this…

        • s3n on 14/07/2023 - 12:34
          -3

          $150 i3-12100 anyone it performs the same with less power

      • guerd87 on 20/07/2023 - 19:22

        I picked one of those Z640's up and its a great machine for doing business tasks, playing a few basic games and doing some basic 3d modelling. Just tried to buy another one a few days ago but none of them around anymore :( Ended up getting a cheap Z230 but it only comes with a K2000 so not great. I have a spare slimline 1030 here to put in it

  • tonyjzx on 14/07/2023 - 11:34
    +1

    you're paying for newer architecture… the others are not win11 compatible, officially

    https://www.intel.com.au/content/www/au/en/products/sku/1267…

    the gpu is straight garbo… just something to boot off and show a desktop

    https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/nvs-310.c1451

  • Morien on 14/07/2023 - 11:36

    Suitable for a Plex server with hardware transcoding?

    What’s a good way of adding more SATA ports?

    • BROKENKEYBOARD on 14/07/2023 - 11:56
      +1

      I'd say trash tier, may as well buy a whole new PC at this price for Plex.

    • freefall101 on 14/07/2023 - 12:00
      -2

      Should be fine with hardware transcoding, depending on how many streams you're doing at once (will do a couple easily). If you're worried, throw a GPU in. IMO at this price you can get some second hand, newer generation hardware that would do a better job for the same price.

      You can add more SATA ports with a PCI-e card although I dunno where you'd physically put the drives in the case if you need more than 6, particularly if you're using 3.5" drives. I'd probably go with USB drives instead.

      • Mitch889 on 14/07/2023 - 12:38
        +1

        Pretty sure this machine wouldn’t do hardware transcoding as configured. The Xeon doesn’t have an iGPU, and that GPU doesn’t have hardware transcode either.

        • freefall101 on 14/07/2023 - 14:55

          Yup, you're right. I was thinking the CPU has the power to do transcoding and somehow translated that into hardware encoding.

      • Bruceflix on 14/07/2023 - 13:56
        +1

        I don't think you know what HW transcoding is.

        • freefall101 on 14/07/2023 - 14:54
          +1

          I think you're right. Had a brainfart and was just thinking about software transcoding.

    • Mitch889 on 14/07/2023 - 12:36

      This wouldn’t really make sense for Plex, you want an i5 or i7 with Intel iGPU. Much lower power consumption and excellent performance.

      Mine is based around a Dell Precision with an i7 8700.

      • misu p on 14/07/2023 - 13:10

        I second this with the clarification to get a 7th gen or higher intel. It also depends on your needs, how many streams do you need to be transcoded and from what to what? There are lists on the internet that will tell you what you need.

      • Kill Joy on 14/07/2023 - 14:58

        If thats the Dell Precision 3630, I recently move it into a standard ATX case to expand the storage options (and drastically reduce temperatures) and am happy to answer any questions on the process for my fellow ozbargainers.

        • Mitch889 on 14/07/2023 - 16:08

          Yep it’s a 3630. I’ve got 3x 3.5 inch drives an an NVMe M.2 boot drive in mine for now.

  • Spacexyz on 14/07/2023 - 11:41
    -4

    Off topic question, I'm getting my first NAS mainly for file storage, any reliable 2-bay good ones recommended? Currently thinking about Synology DS220j and Terramaster F2-210 Thanks.

    • Aildaris on 14/07/2023 - 12:17
      +3

      If you can be bothered, you'll get better value and more expandability building one yourself. If you can find some cheap second hand parts on marketplace, you'll be able to build something for a fraction of the price that runs circles around a Synology. Only issue is you'll very likely end up with a bigger case which might not be desirable

      • Spacexyz on 14/07/2023 - 12:32

        Thanks, I might wait for the 2-bay ones on promotion again. I was thinking to building one, but wouldn't have much time for trouble shooting if anything goes wrong with the DIY.

  • s3n on 14/07/2023 - 11:47
    -3

    Performance is pathetic for the power

    Equal to a ~$150 12th Gen i3 ie. i3-12100

    Avoid

    • sob baget on 14/07/2023 - 13:38
      +1

      Equal to a ~$150 12th Gen i3 ie. i3-12100

      Average OzBargainer go five minutes without spewing some reductive, pea-brained take in the PC hardware section CHALLENGE (impossible)

      The Xeon is a good ~30% faster in multi-threaded applications, supports more than double the PCIe lanes and ECC memory (not to mention four times as much).

      I have no earthly clue if this is a good deal or not, but you're criticising a tractor for not having the same capabilities as a hot hatch, it's utterly nonsensical.

      • s3n on 14/07/2023 - 13:49
        -3

        That’s pathetic since the i3 12100 only takes 90w to do that whereas the Xeon is 140w or so and runs like a jet engine taking off at full load

        i3 12100 supports DDR5 ECC RAM and DDR4 ECC I’ve tested it in both of my W680 systems one with DDR4 and one with DDR5 to upgrade to 13900k BIOS and I was blown away by the performance of this for $150 but granted the 13900k eats the average current generation $5000 enterprise server for breakfast (at 140w it'd be at least 3 times faster than W-2145 in multi-threaded apps and don't get me started at 320W)

        My point is valid since I’ve built two future proof systems around basically the same class of silicon

        DDR5-4800 dual channel ECC is superior to any clapped out quad channel DDR4-2133 ECC that you can get (hell even my dual channel DDR4-3200 ECC is probably superior or on par within 2% in most scenarios) and W680 supports the same number of lanes

        Supports quick sync and all that too

        So yes I have a clue and you’d be mad to spend $450 on this trash

        • tonyjzx on 14/07/2023 - 14:54

          mate you keep saying this but you seem to bring… anecdotes

          why not just give a 3rd party link

          https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/3156vs4687/Intel-Xeon-W…

          fmd this guy is special… but he swears he has a CLUE… just one though

          • s3n on 14/07/2023 - 15:43
            -1

            @tonyjzx: My point is that the performance is pathetic compared to current entry level CPU's I'm not going to argue about 20% of already hopeless multi-threaded performance

            At this entry level and for this particular use case I don't think anyone's going to notice the 20% multi-thread anyway

            They'll be rocking their phoenix/dragon laptop and iPads etc. all with better multi-core performance than this hot mess

            Poor value IMO

        • sob baget on 14/07/2023 - 15:00
          +2

          That’s pathetic since the i3 12100 only takes 90w to do that whereas the Xeon is 140w

          Even if TDP was indicative of real-world power consumption (spoiler alert: it's not), ~30% more performance for ~50% more power, whilst not ideal, is hardly heinous.

          runs like a jet engine taking off at full load

          I mean this is subject to how the heat load is managed, I've been running 130w TDP chip for the best part of a decade that's whisper quiet under load.

          I’ve tested it in both of my W680 system

          Which is the ONLY place you'll get it to work (and even then I'm frankly dubious of this claim; to the best of my knowledge ECC was only enabled on Alder Lake W680 for i5 and upward), but sure, a sub $200 CPU with a motherboard likely worth more than this entire system is a very realistic and sensible use case.

          DDR5-4800 dual channel ECC is superior to any clapped out quad channel DDR4-2133 ECC

          Setting aside the fact that "clapped out" re: RAM is a complete non-sequitur (the stuff is basically bulletproof), again you're just ignoring a good deal of use cases where ECC > non-ECC, speed be damned.

          I’ve built two future proof systems

          "I overspend and pass it off as 'expertise'"

          • s3n on 14/07/2023 - 15:32
            -1

            @sob baget: "Overspend" is subjective only over the course of the life of the system

            Spending $450 on this 5 year old system is "overspend" in my opinion when an entry level desktop runs cooler and uses less power and gives similar real world performance and DDR5 is on-die ECC anyway

            Spend $1000 even less (you could get away with $600 for a ryzen) on a new entry level system with warranty and you've got reasonable expectation of using it for sometime rather than putting up with a 5 year old oversized low performing loud heat box run 24/07 to an inch of its life hoping it doesn't give up the ghost

  • Congruent on 14/07/2023 - 11:48

    Any info on how many SATA ports are on these machines? ECC ram sounds tempting for a home server upgrade

    • s3n on 14/07/2023 - 11:49
      -2

      DDR5 is cheap these days with on-die ECC

      Getting a clapped out old server is not worth it IMO

    • bargaino on 14/07/2023 - 12:08
      +1

      Probably a bad idea for a home server, due to the high power draw. You don't want this on 24/7.

      • s3n on 14/07/2023 - 12:30
        -1

        It’s not just power it’s heat and noise

        OK in a server room running VMs not at home blasting fans

        Any recent gen offers huge improvements in efficiency especially AMD

        The performance difference is noticeable

        I’m in the process of retiring my e5v3 xeon with a 13th gen and honestly anything 12th or 13th gen is insane for the money boosts when you need it to and runs VMs so fast that I think I overkilled it getting a 13900k but I bought it planning not to touch it for 5 years

        • nulled on 14/07/2023 - 14:58

          Curious why you are ditching e5v3, although they are quite old. Could be useful for a server setup. I was thinking about dual e5v4 with 256GB RAM for ML-based applications.

          • s3n on 14/07/2023 - 15:14

            @nulled: I got lucky with my home server tower from the Dell outlet new when they had servers on run out

            It's lasted me over 5 years as my NAS (has PERC etc.) and came with one low power e5-2530l v3 and I got another for $40 a couple of years ago (these processors are dirt cheap now) so I could run 8 GPU's on it (not for ML :P)

            Performance running VM's isn't great and only improved when I chucked 256gb RAM in it from Ebay but it does work for a few low power development jobs but struggles when loaded up with heavier tasks

            It's old and needs to run nvme cards it in for VM's so I wouldn't consider it as reliable as a new system and I'm expecting it to pack up one day (it's run 24/7 and has dropped the nvme disks a couple of times in a year requiring a full power off) so I just needed to have a new server as a replacement

            ML as in you'll be running GPU's in it?

            W680 with a 13900k (or even a cheap Gen 12 or 13 CPU) is attractive for a workstation/gaming setup which is what I've moved to

            • nulled on 14/07/2023 - 15:59

              @s3n:

              It's old and needs to run nvme cards it in for VM's so I wouldn't consider it as reliable as a new system and I'm expecting it to pack up one day (it's run 24/7 and has dropped the nvme disks a couple of times in a year requiring a full power off) so I just needed to have a new server as a replacement

              No, I am going down the CPU/RAM path, as the GPU is not always feasible due to low VRAM.

    • OMan on 14/07/2023 - 12:32
      +1

      In the following link it say up to 4 Sata.
      https://support.hp.com/au-en/document/c05846113#AbT7

  • chuneeperformance on 14/07/2023 - 11:51

    How many pcie lanes?

    • OMan on 14/07/2023 - 12:14

      48

    • PhilsComputerLab on 14/07/2023 - 15:38
      +1

      Slot 0 (mechanical only)
      Only for rear bulkhead mounting
      Slot 1
      PCI Express Gen 3 x16 (from CPU)
      Slot 2
      PCI Express Gen 3 x16 (from PCH) with open-ended connector
      Slot 3 (for Xeon W)
      PCI Express Gen 3 x16 (from CPU)
      Slot 3 (for Core i9-X)
      PCI Express Gen 3 x16
      Slot 3 (for Core i7-X)
      PCI Express Gen 3 x16 (from CPU) mechanical
      PCI Express Gen 3 x8 (from CPU) electrical
      Slot 4
      PCI Express Gen 3 x16 (from PCH) with open-ended connector
      Slot 5
      PCI Express Gen 3 x8 (from CPU)
      Slot 5 (for Core i9-X)
      PCI Express Gen 3 x8 (from CPU)
      Slot 5 (for Core i7-X)
      PCI Express Gen 3 x8 (from CPU) mechanical
      M.2 Slot 1
      M.2 PCIe Gen 3 x4 - CPU up to 80 mm (3.15 in) storage devices
      M.2 Slot 2 (for Xeon W)
      M.2 PCIe Gen 3 x4 - CPU up to 80 mm (3.15 in) storage devices
      M.2 Slot 2 (for Core X)
      M.2 connector/slot not available

  • OMan on 14/07/2023 - 12:41

    The Xeon CPU is qua-channels, so this type of workstations are good as VM servers. Assuming it has 4 8gb DIMMS. 32GB is a bit of a VM server, so will need to add another 4 DIMMS, so another couple of hundred dollars more.

  • Wheels08 on 14/07/2023 - 13:22

    Maybe not the right place to ask but I'm looking to do some work from home. What would be the best value for money used office machine?

    Doing some video calls, just regular Microsoft Office suite, no gaming and 2 X 27in monitors.

    Currently have a 4th gen Intel and 8Gb RAM but looking for something that will be at least a little future proof. 8th or 9th gen and 16Gb RAM I guess?

    Budget around the $400 mark. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

    • coxymla on 14/07/2023 - 13:35
      +2

      SFF of that vintage is pretty good, quad core with hyperthreading, usually at least 2x DP and plenty of USB.
      Should be between $250-$350, might come with a small SSD but you can trivially replace that with a 1TB NVMe for cheap.

      • Wheels08 on 14/07/2023 - 15:16

        Thank you for your advice

    • greatlamp on 14/07/2023 - 14:26

      Look for an 8th gen or higher i5, you get 6 cores and win 11 support

      E.g. https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/787552

      In my experience you need 16gb ram for office applications these days

      • Wheels08 on 14/07/2023 - 15:17

        Thanks mate. Sounds good. Will keep an eye out. I have created a couple of alerts on here

    • coxymla on 17/07/2023 - 12:16
      +1

      FYI https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/788548

      • Wheels08 on 17/07/2023 - 14:49
        +1

        Thanks mate. I have decided I'm going to build something just for fun haha. 5600g as I don't plan on gaming. Will cost a bit extra but oh well.

        • s3n on 17/07/2023 - 15:21

          Good choice heaps of bang for buck with the more recent CPU's now

          5-7 year old server class performance for ~$200

          Must be the healthy competition that AMD provided since I'm sure Intel was happy with mediocre gains from 2nd Gen Intel all the way to 8th Gen or so almost no movement in years

          The Phoenix / Dragon 7840 chips are ridiculous basically 13th Gen desktop performance in a laptop with ridiculously low power requirements

          I'm sure Intel is sweating right now with their antiquated design

  • PhilsComputerLab on 14/07/2023 - 15:36
    +1

    It's nice seeing Z4 G4 workstations hit the market. How is the RAM configured? One of the highlights is Quad-Channel Registered ECC memory, but you need 4 memory modules installed. If they are not shipped with 4 modules you are missing out on performance and have to hunt down server RAM which can be expensive.

    8-Core Xeon is ok, but the platform supports up to 18 Cores and IPC is way behind what modern CPUs offer. With the weak GPU this one is a bit hard to recommend, I see the value not that great.

    If you want cheap, go with a Z440, CPUs and RAM are cheaper and you can have cheap fun decking it out. Yes IPC is lower, but not double the price worth it lower and you get all the other benefits of Quad-Channel RAM, Registered ECC, 40 PCIe lanes, top notch built quality.

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