[Refurb] HP EliteDesk 800 G3 SFF Desktop PC i5-7500 8GB RAM 256GB SSD Win 11 Pro $120 + $25 Delivery @ Technology Locker

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[Refurb] HP EliteDesk 800 G3 SFF Desktop PC i5-7500 8GB RAM 256GB SSD Win 11 Pro $120 + $25 Delivery @ Technology Locker
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Lgnastygnorc132 on 28/03/2025 - 20:40 technologylocker.com.au (2357 clicks)
Last edited 28/03/2025 - 21:50

Cheap Desktop Computer, suitable for Plex / Jellyfin, due to the Intel HD Graphics 630.

The PC has the following expansion potential:

  • 2 x 3.5" HDDs
  • 1 x 2.5" SSD
  • 1 x M.2 2280 Gen 3

To get the most out of it, you'll need to purchase the following:

  • HDDs / SSD / NVME (of course)
  • Sata Cables (get short cables with one end as right-angle, as there isn't a lot of room in the drive bays)
  • HDD Mounting Screws (8 x 3.5" for $9.50 and/or 8 x 2.5" for $8.50)

Specs

See: Datasheet for HP EliteDesk 800 G3 Small Form Factor PC
Dimension (HxWxD): 100 x 338 x 308 mm

Spec Details
Processor Intel® Core™ i5-7500 Processor
Memory 8 GB DDR4 RAM (installed, 4 DIMM slots in total with max 64GB)
Storage 256GB SSD
Operating System Windows 11 Pro
Graphics UHD 630
Internal Drive Bays One 2.5" HDD; Two 3.5" HDD (3 Sata Ports)
Expansion Slots 2 low-profile PCIe (x1); 2 full-height PCIe x16, one wired as x4
Ports (Front) 1 USB Type-C™; 2 USB 3.1 Gen 1; 1 USB 2.0; 1 USB 2.0 (fast charging); 1 Headphone connector
Ports (Back) 1 RJ-45 Ethernet Port; 1 power connector; 2 USB 2.0; 4 USB 3.1 Gen 1; 2 DisplayPort™ 1.2; 1 audio-in; 1 audio-out
Network (LAN) Intel® I219LM Gigabit Network Connection LOM
Network (WLAN) optional via M.2 2230 Slot (not included)
Power 180 W, up to 82% efficient, active PFC
Security Management Trusted Platform Module TPM 2.0 Embedded Security Chip (SLB9670 - Common Criteria EAL4+ Certified); SATA 0,1 port disablement (via BIOS); Drive lock; RAID configurations; Serial, USB enable/disable (via BIOS); Power-on password (via BIOS); Setup password (via BIOS); Solenoid hood lock/intrusion sensor; Support for chassis padlocks and cable lock devices
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Comments

  • flagsarefun on 28/03/2025 - 21:02
    +19

    Seems odd for a business to be selling an (officially) non-compatible device with Windows 11 Pro. It is one thing when a knowledgeable user fires up Rufus to bypass requirements, but if/when an unitting buyer's Win 11 install breaks or stops receiving security updates that's entirely different.

    • PainToad on 28/03/2025 - 21:14
      -2

      Yeah, pretty misleading imo.

    • gnastygnorc132 on 28/03/2025 - 21:46
      +4

      You are right, the Microsoft website doesn't list the Intel i5-7500 as a "supported Intel processor" for Windows 11 version 24H2 (see: Windows 11 version 24H2 supported Intel processors).

      However, Microsoft does list this note:

      Editor’s Note: Updated February 27, 2025 This Learn page is continually updated to reflect the Intel® processor models that meet the minimum system requirements for Windows 11. It is intended for OEMs and ODMs to understand the following CPUs may be used for new Windows 11 devices. A page update made on February 13, 2025 did not reflect accurate offerings. It has since been updated, including the addition of Intel® processor models 8th, 9th, and 10th generation Intel® CPUs, and the reclassification for select Intel® processor models to support Windows 11.

      And the HP EliteDesk 800 G3 Datasheet has this under Security Management:

      Trusted Platform Module TPM 2.0 Embedded Security Chip (SLB9670 - Common Criteria EAL4+ Certified); SATA 0,1 port disablement (via BIOS); Drive lock; RAID configurations; Serial, USB enable/disable (via BIOS); Power-on password (via BIOS); Setup password (via BIOS); Solenoid hood lock/intrusion sensor; Support for chassis padlocks and cable lock devices

      It's the TPM 2.0 which is the actual hardware requirement for Windows 11. I bought a PC (HP EliteDesk 800 G4 i7-8700) from Technology Locker and did a fresh install of Windows 11. And when I disabled TPM 2.0 and Secure Boot in the BIOS I got the Windows error of "Your hardware is not compatible". After re-enabling those settings in the BIOS Windows 11 installed just fine. I didn't use Rufus or anything like that.

      • slimpickings on 29/03/2025 - 01:51
        +1

        TPM and 8th gen or above processors are official requirements. One of them is checked for during the install process and one isn't, skipping either doesn't currently cause major issues, but they could in future. I'm guessing it'll be fine for a few years, but if microsoft pushes a security update that only has issues with <8th gen processors, they might not devote much time to fixing it.

        I'd be wary about dropping this into an elderly relatives house when you can pick up 8th gen refurbs for <$200, but for linux or win11 in my household? yeah it's fine, I have win11 running on a 2nd gen and it's chugging along.

        • Ozzster on 29/03/2025 - 08:29
          -1

          Knowing how popular Win10 I'm sure there will be updates for another 3-5 years. Not sure about channels though, they may need some repacking. But hardware has never been an issue.

          • Clear on 29/03/2025 - 08:56

            @Ozzster: Windows 10 is end of life in October and that's not going to change regardless of how many are using it. You can get security updates for another year if you pay like $30 USD as a home user or $60+ USD as a business through the ESU program.

            • Ozzster on 29/03/2025 - 09:50

              @Clear: That's a marketing push for those who are not strong in IT enough to get the updates. These paid updates are always available for free if you know where. I was getting 2008r2 server updates until last couple of years when I stopped using it.

        • greatlamp on 29/03/2025 - 11:47

          if microsoft pushes a security update that only has issues with <8th gen processors, they might not devote much time to fixing it.

          I can't imagine how that could occur. Newer CPUs have all the instruction sets of the older ones, plus more. Issues would either affect all CPUs or newer CPUs only

          • dazzawul on 30/03/2025 - 15:23

            @greatlamp: They simply include hardware instructions in the kernel that are missing in the older CPUs and now you have a bricked system…

            • greatlamp on 30/03/2025 - 15:40

              @dazzawul: Maybe in Windows 12? Not something that would be introduced in a patch.

              Intel core 7th gen CPUs have the same instruction sets as the 8th and 9th gen. So this situation is entirely hypothetical.

    • Clear on 28/03/2025 - 22:03
      +6

      It's a good way to measure how professional an IT company is. Do they sell unsupported hardware with Win11? Yep? Expect them to be pretty dodgy.

      • outlander on 29/03/2025 - 11:15
        +1

        A professional IT company charges a lot more than $125

        • Clear on 29/03/2025 - 11:58

          Installing Windows 11 on unsupported hardware is more than just unprofessional. Especially if it gets cut off later and they'll expect you to pay for it to be "fixed".

          I'm sure they'd make a killing selling Office when all they've really done is used 🪦

          • outlander on 29/03/2025 - 13:10
            +1

            @Clear: The way I see it, it's thrown in as a bonus. Your paying for the hardware. If they weren't able to get win11 for free they'd be putting on linux

            • Clear on 29/03/2025 - 13:21

              @outlander: Or Windows 10.

              • blahman on 03/04/2025 - 15:19

                @Clear: You know, if they put windows 10 in, we'll get another bunch of people complaining about providing EoL windows to the elderly.

                • Clear on 03/04/2025 - 15:55

                  @blahman: That's on them for buying old hardware that doesn't support Windows 11. Big difference between that and potentially crippling the system later by doing bypasses to put an OS on unsupported hardware.

  • The Value on 28/03/2025 - 21:30
    +9

    i5-8500 minimum.

    7500 is just too old.

    • Shermanpk on 28/03/2025 - 21:43
      +1

      What's your reasoning?

      Is it just that Win 11 in not supported?

      Because there are a lot of uses that don't need Windows to be supported. But also THAT is why they're cheap, because they're now EOL.

      Sure 2 extra cores is great, but otherwise taking out windows support 7500 isn't BAD.

      • Flutterby on 28/03/2025 - 22:34
        +2

        I would call it cheap. Picked up one for the same money 2 years back

    • harro112 on 28/03/2025 - 23:53
      +1

      nah. as per the OP, great for plex, also good for ubuntu / docker containers etc.

  • HcNguyen111 on 28/03/2025 - 21:50
    +3

    I use this exact model/spec as one of my under-the-bed Ubuntu Servers, running 20+ Docker containers.

    The main Docker container being Jellyfin - a media server. It works perfectly fine for that + all the little things required to acquire/make backups of such media.

    • Shermanpk on 28/03/2025 - 22:07

      What's your power consumption like, if you know?

      I've seen as low as 8w reported of idle?

      • HcNguyen111 on 28/03/2025 - 22:22
        +3

        I don't have/know exact figures but it has been running 24/7 for 2ish years and the power bill feels the same - no noticeable jump.

        If I get the chance to power it down safely later tonight I'll add a ZigBee power monitoring plug to its power outlet and let you know the power usage over the weekend. (ZigBee home automation/monitoring via Home Assistant Docker container).

      • asCMSas on 29/03/2025 - 11:21
        +1

        9-12 watts average on mine, this exact model with a i7-6700 running trueNAS

      • HcNguyen111 on 30/03/2025 - 10:39

        https://imgur.com/a/ZPFBfvQ

        Looks like I idle around 15W. Notes: I have 1 x HDD added inside which I recall telling never to spin down, and have both a USB WiFi adapter and a USB ZigBee coordinator which don't really idle.

  • drillvoice on 28/03/2025 - 22:18

    Would this be a good option to run home assistant OS?

    • HcNguyen111 on 28/03/2025 - 22:23
      +1

      I run Home Assistant as one of my 20ish Docker containers on this. Running purely Home Assistant OS would be easy for it.

      I bought mine for $200ish 2 years ago from another seller. Would I buy it now for $120? Yes if I needed another - 1 is fine for my current needs.

    • Bruceflix on 28/03/2025 - 22:40
      +3

      You can get a n100 minipc for similar coin that would be much lower power draw and idel for Home Assistant

      • Shermanpk on 29/03/2025 - 08:25

        From what I've seen these HP desktops can draw under 12w (I've seen as low as 6-8w reported)*.

        Depending on the N100 it can get as low as 4w (would recommend the Radxa X4 if your chasing ultra low power).

        If it's really important to you, I'd suggest waiting for HcNguyen111 to report back their power consumption.

        But the N100 also has about 20% less performance, and a maximum of like 9 PCIe lanes, while these desktops have 16+4+1+1 as well as an M.2 (from memory x4).

    • XeKToReX on 29/03/2025 - 08:46
      +1

      I run HAOS on a Dell 5070 with a 7500T.

      Runs very well, without frigate managing my 7 cameras it would barely use any CPU.

      Even with it doing that it's still very responsive.

    • scottb721 on 29/03/2025 - 20:36

      I'm running mine on an i5 6600T Lenovo ThinkCentre I picked up in Dec for $85. Wish I'd done it years ago.

  • HungryRussian on 28/03/2025 - 22:49
    +2

    I also vouch for this - running bunch of VMs and containers via proxmox. Reliable, low power consumption. Bios has option to boot on power connection, so it can reboot on power outages. I run mini version though.

  • Aesir5 on 28/03/2025 - 23:38
    +1

    Good because it still fits 2 x 3.5" HDDs for a low cost simple Truenas file storage server.

    • TaurusHead on 29/03/2025 - 04:45

      That's what I was wondering, I've been looking for a NAS suitable system, a couple of (14-16TB) HDDs are enough for my usage.

      • kevlam3 on 29/03/2025 - 09:49
        +2

        Just be wary, I have the same model with running unraid, the chassis doesn't have enough airflow to keep the 2x 3.5 HDD cool during heavy write/read, such as during parity check, I was getting almost 50 degrees on the hdd. Yes it's still under the max temp on spec sheet, but wasn't comfortable with it. It maybe due to the hdd I use (WD HC330's 10TB)?

        • Nom on 29/03/2025 - 15:44

          50c is absolutely fine - the max temp on the spec sheet really is the max temp. If you're not hitting this number, then all is well.

    • jayros on 29/03/2025 - 21:41

      throw a couple of pcie x4 to nvme adapters and a 2.5gbe NIC in there for good measure

  • Ozzster on 29/03/2025 - 08:33

    Nobody is concerned about small RAM and SSD. This PC needs another $100 of upgrades to be usable in modern app (and will be usable for modern games).

    • timhn on 29/03/2025 - 15:33
      +4

      People buying this probably don't plan to play games on it.

    • Nom on 29/03/2025 - 16:19
      +1

      These machines are nearly ten years old - if you want to use modern apps and modern games, this is definitely not the choice !
      People buy these as servers and media players - they're far too old to make good desktop machines.

      • Shootinputin89 on 20/04/2025 - 17:56

        This. Also, why the heck are people keeping Windows on these? These are to be used for headless servers.

  • parneli on 29/03/2025 - 09:14
    +4

    +1 I have this for home server w/Proxmox running Firewall (OPNSense), Home Assistant, Frigate with 5 cameras + Google Coral and works well.

  • Dan83 on 29/03/2025 - 09:51

    Nice price. They’re selling the g4 model for $200. Quite a jump in price for the next gen processor. I’ve seen the g5 sells elsewhere for $250. Anyone seen better prices on the g5 before and where?

  • adam149 on 29/03/2025 - 14:27

    Can this do 4k to 1080p transcoded?

    • Blue Juice on 29/03/2025 - 18:38

      I'm pretty sure it's the 8th Gen iGPUs onwards.

      I have a 9th Gen in a HP G5 that I got from Australian Computer Traders for $320 that I run Plex (and a heap of other VMs).
      Specs: HP EliteDesk 800 G5 SFF Intel i5 9600 3.10GHz 16GB RAM 256GB

      A quick search I found this:

      8th gen iGPU can do HDR transcode. 7th cannot, only decode/play.
      7th gen i7 is quad core. 8th is hexacore. that alone is 50% extra.

      • sjp1808 on 30/03/2025 - 13:49

        Any thoughts on the i5 9500 vs i5 7500 re: transcoding?

    • Ozzster on 30/03/2025 - 01:24

      Depends on codec. Hevc h265+ would need a GPU 1030+, H264 and lower will be OK.

  • drillvoice on 18/04/2025 - 16:02

    I got this, and after some fumbling I now have it set up running Home Assistant and Plex. It's a bit bigger than I expected, and the storage is a bit smaller, but it's been a good start! I would welcome any suggestions on HDD to add and what would be a suitable length of SATA cable.

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