Cheaper deal than the previous Edu store deal as there's tier 2 discounts available. Never had issues/checks ordering from the Uni stores but as always, ymmv.
Great to see MagSafe is back and 120hz is a huge get as well!
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MacBook Pro 14: https://www.apple.com/au_edu_5000447/shop/buy-mac/macbook-pr…
MacBook Pro 16: https://www.apple.com/au_edu_5000447/shop/buy-mac/macbook-pr…
Consider pairing with any Apple Gift Card deals available here
You can load up to 8 gift cards
So expensive! I think the new AirPods are actually good value. They include the wireless charger and are an upgrade from 2nd generation (now $219 directly from apple)
I think they mentioned it's water resistant as well which is handy.
I thought you meant the new ones were 219…
In any case they are a cut down version of the AirPods Pro, with longer battery life because it doesn’t have NC.
Oops sorry I meant AirPods 2 lol. If you think the AirPods 2 will cost you at least an extra $50 for a wireless charger the new AirPods 3 sound better on paper.
Anyway in my household we have AirPods Pro (me) and AirPods 2 (husband and daughter). I just have to sort new AirPods for my oldest. Waiting for the education free AirPods in January.
@Fozzie, I don't believe they do.
The charging case is compatible but if you want MagSafe you need to buy the MagSafe puck. Just like iPhone - It can do it if you buy the thing.
Edit: At least you don't need to buy a Wireless charging case separately - Still a win, especially while apple clings to that stupid out of date lightning connector.
I meant they have wireless charger like the pro.
these are very very impressive laptops
Should stack with Apple gift cards purchased at Big W or Woolworths too which can be effectively seen as an additional 10% or so off. Hopefully those deals run fairly frequently moving forward…there’s been a few the past couple of months.
Is there a cap on how many giftcards can be used online though?
Think you can add up to $5000 worth of balance.
Nice, good tip! :)
Can also check your CC's points program .. many of them have swapped out the AppStore card (that only worked on the Apple App store) to their new Apple Gift Card that covers everything (Apps Store and physical items).
Some offer up to 30% discounted of retail prices with the conversion from points to Apple Gift Card credit.
sorry can you explain how it's up to 10% off? how is that achieved?
There’s been a few deals recently where buying Apple gift cards got a much higher than normal volumes of Woolworths rewards points which can then be transferred to money off groceries.
Assuming most people do need to get groceries anyway and the credit I like many promos won’t just encourage additional unplanned buying, you can effectively see this as a discount even if effectively you’re limited to saving in a groceries bill.
https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/650860
Someone has posted a similar one for FlyBuys bellow.
Mmmm AOC discount plus 10% off Apple gift cards for a high end macbook. Not sure if I can resist….
Add in potential overseas flights soon, that's the GST back too…
I nearly managed the holy trinity of discounts back in 2015 with a 10% Dick Smith cards on the back of a 10% off sale but was foiled by a huge line of chinese tourist at the GST refund counter. I hope someone gets to achieve this feat.
@Icecold5000: Exact same thing happened to me! Early 2015 MBP from Dick Smith
I thought 30mins early at the airport would be enough, boy was i wrong.
@Broomstick: Life can be so cruel. Sometimes it isn’t solely about the money saved but working the system to your maximum advantage and being able to flex on OBZ.
@Icecold5000: Oh my best was claiming GST back on a Canon DSLR when I went to the US, then it died on my trip and I got a replacement with a new reciept, which fell in within the dates of a new cashback deal. I went overseas AGAIN and was tempted to claim the GST again (on new receipt) but thought I was pushing it. I did claim the camera on my tax return though.
@bluebear_74: Can you clarify what you mean? I'm planning to go overseas soon, does that mean I can claim back GST even if I'm an Australian citizen? Never done this before, who do I speak to at the airport?
@tofusana: Technically you have to pay it back when you return but I've never been asked to (I've claimed many things Gucci shoes, LV wallet, multiple cameras, Nitendo Switch without issues - of course not on the same trip). I find just being organised eg. pre filling everything in the app and just making their life easier, they don't really say anything. There was a group ahead of me in line who just rocked up with a huge stack of receipts and the officier was giving them trouble. Another time the girl lied about her designer purchases (said they weren't "hers") and they said they would make a note on her passport. Brother claimed an egagement ring and was asked if he was aware he had to pay it back on return and he just said yes and never had to. Just be honest and don't try and lie to them.
There's a desk where you go claim it. Just make sure you give yourself plenty of time because sometimes there can be a line and they won't let you do it within a certain time of you're flight. I'm guessing many flights have been delayed from people wanting to claim when there's a long line.
@bluebear_74: Flip side to that I have had a friend get caught on the way back after a honeymoon on a 20k engagement ring. Or another who came back with a newly purchased mirror less and the officer even checked the S/N of the camera against the TRS declaration.
This is a big ymmv, as it is quite random how/when they decide to check your bags. (Same reason why people still try to push narcotics through regular passengers — there’s always a chance of slipping straight through)
Stack with this deal and you could save another $500 back in flybuy points.
Thanks for the reminder! I'll mention up top w/ credit
So just to be clear, you can get $10 for every 2000 points (Capped at 75,000) which makes it 37.5x10 = $375 save on top of the current edu store discount?
Also, what happens if I end up returning the product and exchanging it for a different size model? Do I still get to use the flybuy discount?
Sorry for the newb questions lol
You purchase $4000 Apple gift card. Coles gives you xxx points which can be used at Coles only.
You then use this $4000 GC to purchase Apple products. So return/refund has nothing to do with Coles.
Oh I thought the $10 at checkout meant at the Apple store… Thanks for the clarification.
Ops my maths was off yeah it’s $375 max discount per a flybuys account.
So the max is $2,500 (5*$500 cards)? That wouldn't be enough to cover this though?
Spread the purchases over two Flybuy accounts.
I believe apple has a max of 8 giftcards
Is no one gonna talk about the notch they introduced to the new MBP?
I personally won't be buying this magnificently-engineered and specced piece of magic at a reasonable price with it's awesome magsafe, due to the notch. Is that what you mean?
Well lets get it straight, he is never going to buy it.
The notch doesn't intrude into any of the apps. It's up in there with the menu bar, which when black (as most creatives use) is not noticeable. So throwing away this laptop for such a minor inconvenience is hilarious.
@viperacr: Actually it does and apple forces all app into compatibility mode that will adjust their active display area so that it will not render behind the notch. In other words, you do lose screen asset.
Well I have not denied that the laptop will be good, it is just that of all the design choices that could have done, why a notch?
@Letrico: That's not true at all. Have a look at the images released:
https://i.imgur.com/MakdfuS.png
You can see the notch is integrated into the menu bar at the top. When you make an app take up the whole display it sits under the menu bar. You can also force the app into full-screen mode, but that's not what is shown here.
@viperacr: I kid you not. It is in their updated app developer guide.
https://developer.apple.com/documentation/bundleresources/in…
"On Macs that include a camera housing in the screen bezel, the system provides a compatibility mode to prevent apps from unintentionally putting content in the region the housing occupies. When this mode is active, the system changes the active area of the display to avoid the camera housing. The new active area ensures your app’s contents are always visible and not obscured by the camera housing. The system only activates this compatibility mode while an app that requires it runs in the current desktop space."
You really are losing the screen asset, in order to render full screen apps, it will have to artificially create a black bar at the top that will cover the top area and push your full screen app below the notch.
@Letrico: Yes, for when the app is in full-screen mode and doesn't have the menu bar, it pushes it down. When the app is normally used it's not an issue. I personally never use full-screen apps
@Letrico: In full screen apps where they don't use the notch area. Your active screen area still 16:10, it's pretty much the same as previous model. They add vertical height to the display not chop off previous 16:10 to make room for camera.
@Duoka: Which comes back to the question, why a notch?
It would make much more sense if they just remove the camera all together and sell it as a separate product. That would make the MBP look fantastic.
@Letrico: That's a silly comment and surely even you know that.
Get rid of the camera in a laptop…Ok Jeff.
@Snorkel2226: Huh? Laptop without webcam is not new? Where have you been for the past 10 years?
We have removed audio port from phone which was considered essential few years ago.
@Smigit: Absolutely. Just like how there is a demand for charger for new iPhones and most people expect to have it when they bought a new phone.
@Letrico: Either youre just being a troll or you just blatantly hating on a decent product. Especially in a world where you have to work remotely more often a webcam is absolutely important. Considering that you still get to keep a 16:10 aspect ratio means that you are actually getting more screen realestate by being able to put the menu bar further up the screen.
@SitarBoy: People on Ozbargain are nice! Engaging with someone who is clearly a troll and is harping about a notch which is a non issue on a laptop which is basically revolutionary in every way. Go away troll!
@SitarBoy: If you call me a troll for calling out flawed design choices, sure call me a troll.
Regarding the webcam comments, I just said it because Apple has made many decisions in removing core components and offering it as optional add-ons. So for them to "remove" inbuilt webcam and sell it separately should not be a major surprise. Most likely the next revision of MBP to remove the notch in a few years.
@Letrico: I called you a troll for the removal of a webcam. Why on Earth would they remove a webcam which is so important to so many especially in a post COVID world!!
You’re acting as if COVID and remote work isn’t a thing when a webcam is absolutely necessary for almost all collaborative workflows.
Yes they remove things but they remove things that can be replaced. Removing a webcam and selling as an optional accessory would absolutely ruin the customer experience for 90% of users.
@SitarBoy: Well webcam is replaceable too? Apple is not on the best track record in removing things and sell as optional profit.
Remember the monitor stand and wheels last year?
@Letrico: Monitor stand and wheels are OPTIONAL accessories. Although I do believe their overpriced, they aren’t needed by PROFESSIONALS. Most professionals have VESA mounts in their workspace and would use those instead of some stupid stand apple created. Go ahead tho spout more bs. By your logic apple should remove the trackpad and keyboard too cus they can sell it as an accessory!!
@SitarBoy: Imagine buying a monitor without stand and iPhone without charger because they are optional accessories. Good luck charging your phone.
And you are literally repeating what what apple said about EVERY professional uses their own VESA mount. That is not true at all but sure.
Hey you are getting it now. Apple do sell trackpads separately as optional accessories.
Besides I have never said apple should do anything. They will do it if they get the chance to and history shows.
@Letrico: the difference is you think that Apple would get rid of a KEY COMPONENT of a product. It’s like saying get rid of the screen off an iPhone. It makes no sense.
Everything that you have said that Apple has taken and sold separately are EXTERNAL and do not impact the product they’re selling. Do I think $999 USD for a stand is acceptable? Hell no! But it doesn’t take away from the product. The only thing apple has removed that could have been considered a key component of their product was the headphone jack and that was in 2016! And if you look now I don’t think we would have seen such advances in the headphone space if Apple didn’t create a market for this products.
You clearly don’t understand the difference between removing components from removing accessories.
@Letrico: Don’t buy it then. Go for an intel model. Apple are not going to reconfigure their designs and get foxconn to produce a new model just for you. The egoism of some people as astounding.
If you call me a troll for calling out flawed design choices, sure call me a troll.
You are sounding like one.
Let me ask you this. When Apple eventually bring Face ID to the mac, where do you expect all those IR / proximity sensors to be housed?
@DoctorCalculon: Maybe, just maybe, the place where camera was before they introduce the notch? I know it's absolutely preposterous idea.
@Letrico: Maybe, just maybe, Apple knows what they are doing more than any of us here?
Sure people complained about the notch in the past with the release of the iPhone X. But has that plumetted their sales figures?
@DoctorCalculon: Well you asked where it could be housed and I answered. Sorry to answer with logic.
Sales won't plummet because people continue to buy them because of the brand, they don't care what Apple does. As I said in previous comments that you may have read, they can remove remove monitor stand, they can remove chargers, they can remove audio port, they can do anything that is anti-consumer but people will praise them for being "innovative" but it was just excuses for them to make more money.
As long people continue to accept everything that Apple blindly, they can get away with anything. At this rate it is going, they can just remove webcam from next revision MBP and people will call it genius move because now they don't have the notch anymore and people can have the webcam separately for people that don't need it.
@DoctorCalculon: Dell seem to integrate Windows hello pretty well into their laptops despite the incredibly thin bezels. Not sure this excuse holds up.
For me that isnt an issue but not having faceid with a notch is
I didn't realise Markus Persson was the one more thing introduced by Apple.
I'm not sure I understand the correlation - You have a camera module up there either way, I'm content with more screen realestate.
The notch on iPhone houses infrared camera uses for FaceID. If memory serve me right it was also introduced the first time iPhone got FaceID. So, I think people had their hope up when they heard the new MBP will come with a notch. I personally couldn't care less.
I haven’t watched the announcement video but I’m not sure I’d be too concerned. Most times I’m using the Mac I’m not in a full screen app so the top toolbars visible anyway so the notch eats into that rather than the app. I’d rather a notch and smaller bezels on average than larger bezels across the entire top.
If the OS doesn’t have something built in, I wouldn’t be shocked if someone codes something up to add a virtual bezel for those that hate seeing the notch.
It's ugly but you get more screen real estate.
You new to Apple?
Being in the IOS ecosystem means being inside the reality distortion field.
Lol yup. Imagine getting tons of neg for questioning an obvious design flaw. It's unreal how people justify things.
"magnificiently-engineered"
"reasonably priced"
"awesome magsafe"
Yes a notch isnt the best look, but if you get to have more screen real estate why wouldn't you have it? There are ways to set the colour of the menubar through Terminal and if it really bothers someone they can just make it black to blend in with the bezel. This still gives you more realestate that you otherwise would not have had.
@SitarBoy: Personal opinion, I would rather not have a notch on my laptop for a few menu icons. I have enough notches on my phones.
@Letrico: Fair enough. I prefer no notch as well but you’re acting as if it’s the be all and end all. The computer is impressive to say the least.
@SitarBoy: Oh I definitely agree that the laptop is impressive. I mean everything is good, powerful processor, nice display and everything. If only there was no notch, would have been perfect.
@Letrico: Unless you are a developer, you are not going to run into situation where apps have a lot of menu headings spanning over the notch (on the internal display). However, if you are a developer, you will most likely use an external monitor for those apps (sure the 16 inch mini LED display is awesome, but when you are doing dev work, you do need at least a bigger screen).
The notch feels like an issue until you factor in the 16:10 display. That means, most videos, which are 16:9, simply won't reach the notch part.
@Letrico: not sure if you realise but you are getting extra screen realestate from the notch - not less.
The notch is something that some people don't like (myself included). However, we've accepted it for phones. Apple knows far too well that the other improvements are so good that people will not worry about the notch too much.
It is most likely not going to be an issue for most people because of 2 main reasons: (1) the display is 16:10 so when you watch movie (which is 16:9), you will see that notch (there will be a border) and (2) most of the apps (and that included Mac apps) do not have menu taking the entire top bar, so most apps's menu will stop before the notch.
However, I do have Mac apps that would run into issue. Would be interesting to see what will happen. My guess the newer version of apps will have to re-arrange the menu layout.
The biggest issue is actually going to be future PC laptops. Are PC laptop makers going to offer 16:10 laptops with the notch, or they will do 16:9 with notch. If latter, that will be bad.
However, it is annoying because there is no face ID so that notch doesn't need to be so big, but we know Apple won't do the punch hole design (coz. that's more Android like). Perhaps Apple will introduce Face ID in future models.
Such a non issue since there was nothing ever there on the menu bar. I'd rather more screen.
exactly it's just bonus screen not less.
Anyone if these qualify for back to school promo?
Not till late jan next year, if you can wait that long
If it includes the Airpod which last year's back to school promo offer then it'll be worth the wait.
If it is anything like this year’s promotion, my guess (and it is a guess) is that the answer would be no.
The terms and conditions from this year’s promotion states that the only qualifying locations were:
The way I see it, the only “Apple Online Store for Education” is the education store you can access directly from the Apple website. That’s because when I click on the link in the promotional emails, it bumped me directly to the store linked in the previous sentence.
The “Education Store” mentioned in this post is actually an EPP portal only intended to be available for Australian Education Union members (hence the comments that any purchase may be subjected to an audit to verify whether the purchaser is actually an Australian Education Union member). EPP portals were excluded from this year’s deal, so it won’t surprise me if it is excluded from the next deal.
Who knows, maybe it will be different for next year’s promotion and this EPP portal will be included!
damn man!! This is way way beyond with those top of the line overpriced ALIEN laptops.
Bought a 16" previous gen model using this method. Works a treat and amazing machines.
using M1 13" Pro, not sure to go with 14 or 16 this time
Why do you want to upgrade from the M1 though?
Yeah this is a valid question. What do you do with the machine?
nothing really, just want to try 120Hz screen mainly
@webtherapist: If you have the money then go for it, if not I dont see the point of upgrading from M1 if your work does not use the additional performance.
@BuyOrNot: One reason I can think of is greater external monitor support: M1 Pro specs states you can connect up to 2 x external monitors
Will see how strong will the GPU performance be when the reviews are coming out.
There are already some initial benchmark figures. Based on that and mostly what Apple claimed in the show case:
M1 Pro - roughly laptop RTX 3050Ti
M1 Max - roughly laptop RTX 3080 (but not able to beat it, only close to it)
The scary part is the power usage is much lower. Obviously, nVidia is counting on hardware accelerated ray tracing (which I doubt the Apple silicon GPU has that, could be wrong on that though). Perhaps that's enough warning for nVidia to go TSMC 5nm for next gen.
However, if you really want to play games, you wouldn't buy a Mac.
Those figures are correct, the hard part to measure is that different manufacturers use different wattages on the parts, so the 3080 can be a 105w part or 160w depending on which machine it's in.
That being said, according to the graphs that Apple provided the M1 Max is between the two 3080 models. It's using about 50w of power.
Also I would have said that the M1 Pro is closer to the 3060 from what I can tell.
The real kicker here is that virtually no laptop with a 3080 or even 3060 gives you full power when you are unplugged from the power adaptor. These new chips give you full power even when you're unplugged. This is actually amazing.
I've been amazed by the performance of my M1 MacBook Air - so I guess I shouldn't be surprised at how good these new chips are. I'm not about to trade up for one, as my bank account says hell no, but yeah it's amazing.
Keep in mind that the M1 MacBook Air GPU is about on par with a 1050ti desktop card, while consuming way less power. And the M1 GPU has 7 cores in it. This might help understand some of the talk around the new GPUs on the chips.
It is too early to see the exact performance but should be very impressive considering the power consumption.
Another concern is the limited range of games running on mac OS.
@BennyHe2018: I'm imagining Parallels performance is still going to be pretty good for gaming. Else just turn the games graphics levels down a bit.
I just ordered online without asking any details. Not sure because of "I was a student"