Cheaper deal than the previous Edu store deal as there's tier 2 discounts available. Never had issues/checks ordering from the Uni stores but as always, ymmv.
Great to see MagSafe is back and 120hz is a huge get as well!
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I'm pleasantly surprised by the pricing, I had a look and my 512gb 15-inch was $3650 in 2018
And you can still sell it for 2.5k….
So depreciation roughly 350ish a year. For people who really need the speed $1 a day is nothing when buying a machine that helps you make money.
I’ll be picking up a top-spec 14 inch to replace my 2018 15 inch which I’m listing on eBay right now. Can’t wait.
Not having a go here, but if you get $2500 for a 2018 15 inch good luck to you. M1 has completely stuffed resale value on the 15s which already took a hit due to the 16 inch Intel release. Source: bought my 2018 15 inch on marketplace for $2500 2 years ago.
Joking right? Of course you can sell for that price. But only to someone who has been in a coma for past 3 & half years and think new models would cost nearly 10k for the base model.
No wonder Market place is full this overconfident people with their old ass intel mac pros from 2016, pricing them the same as a 2020 m1 mac air.
@Mi2: I sold a 2016 MBP with broken keyboard (unfixable) on ebay and purchased an M1 MBA. The exercise cost around $400 for the upgrade and I could get that back from tax.
It was a no-brainer for me and I was quite surprised at the resale value of an outdated, and broken MBP.
… stating the obvious but the Air performance is much better than the old pro.
@JelIyfish: Lots of clueless people out there.
Last time I went to JB there was a young lad begging them to return his MacBook because he bought the Intel one instead of M1. But they didn't accept because it wasn't faulty & already open.
@Mi2: It's not the first day when some people hear the word Apple and suddenly become 10x more stupid than before.
they have set the specifications between m1 and m1 pro so vastly different it’s unlikely to happen.
i.e.
m1 pro starts with 16gb / 512gb / 8 core gpu
m1 starts with 8gb / 256 gb / 14 core gpu
then if you spec a m1 to a 16gb / 512gb consider differences between gpu cores the price is almost similar 😰
Just going to leave this here
Audit Rights
Apple routinely audits the purchases of customers at the Apple Store for Education to ensure that all purchase conditions have been observed. Should we discover that you have not observed all of the conditions applicable to your purchase, you authorize Apple:
If you placed your order by credit card, to charge to your credit card the difference between the amount you paid for the delivered goods and the price that Apple charged the general public for the same goods at the Apple Store, in effect on the date that you placed your order; and
If you paid by a means other than credit card, to (a) invoice you for the difference between the amount that you paid for the delivered goods and the price that Apple charged the general public for the same goods at the Apple Store, payable in fifteen days from the date of the invoice, and (b), should you fail to pay the invoice when due, institute legal action against you in a court of competent jurisdiction, with the prevailing party entitled to attorneys' fees.
How would Apple have your address if you pick up the item via C&C?
Billing address?
@DoctorCalculon: From personal experience having bought via here at least three times last year - no. Have heard from others that they might ask for you to show some ID and if you can’t produce any, they ask you to pay the difference. But I’m pretty sure they don’t audit their customers like that frequently.
Legal action is a bluff. They're not going to sue you in small claims court over a couple of hundred dollars where their legal fees aren't claimable. They're not going to sue you in the Magistrate's Court, because of filing fees. You will probably be banned from the store, but there's ways around that.
You will probably be banned from the store, but there's ways around that.
Banned??? Yes, please ban my burner apple ID with name: Tim Apple.
Lot of useless fear mongering by one person on this thread.
You have no kids ;-) Magsafe is a lifesaver!
I guess it's different for people. I can see why some might not need it. I personally have my MacBook in my living room and it's so easy to trip over the cable. I bought an Elecjet magnetic adapter for my 2018 MacBook … https://elecjet.com/collections/magnetic-adapters - works but not perfect. Happy to see Magsafe coming back. In an office environment you might not need it - I sometimes plug in my 4K USB-C monitor which also then charges the laptop with just the one cable - so this is great too (I like both options - MagSafe and USB-C)
USB C is a less robust port. You’d save the environment more by not having to repair logic boards.
@ATangk: It's not saving the environment to create a parallel product (USB-C to Magsafe 3) that is to be purchased separately, when you already have already in the box another manufactured product that achieves the same product function. The impact of manufacturing > the impact of repair when it comes to sustainability and resource usage. Also, logic board repairs are not saving the environment when they're engineered to be un-repairable.
@yojabbajabba: If I plugged and unplugged a usb-c cable passing through 100 W multiple times a day for a few years, that port will likely stop charging. I don’t think I’d equate it to having the same exact function, it’s a more robust, more reliable solution for charging. Also prevents usage of underrated cables which can’t handle the high outputs, someone has mentioned 140W bricks below so that narrows down suitable cables too.
In the end, it’s one connector different from a standard usb C to usb C cable. And that cable isn’t included, so I’d give them a pass for using something better than usb C, which frankly I’m not too keen on given the huge variety in standards within the physical standard.
If I plugged and unplugged a usb-c cable passing through 100 W multiple times a day for a few years, that port will likely stop charging.
None of the 4x USB-C ports on my macbook pro 13" have stopped charging and I literally plug and unplug it multiple times a day. I get there are 4x ports so maybe it will take 10-15 years.
You’d save the environment more by not having to repair logic boards … If I plugged and unplugged a usb-c cable passing through 100 W multiple times a day for a few years, that port will likely stop charging
Environmentally I guess if we produced less people who damage ports when plugging in a USB-C device the world might be a better place?
@yojabbajabba: So why have a screen on your laptop when you're hooked up to a monitor? Why have speakers in your laptop when you have headphones? Why have airpods with batteries that will die?
I hope you own a nuc if you have a monitor or headphones, else you're a hippocrit.
Frankly if you own an iphone and the cpu is grunty enough you'd better not own a nuc either :p
Ps: hope you keep your phones for minimum 5 years each before upgrading too.
My point: you're not wrong but you're picking on the most trivial thing.. A cable. What an idiotic place to start an argument like this. Start with the big ticket stuff.
You’d save the environment more by not having to repair logic boards.
This is the comment I’m challenging.
Do you read my response in context? Or just reply?
I too agree with what you’ve stated. I’m allowed to challenge a notion made on a public forum. Take an upvote and a chill pill.
@ATangk: … and I apologise for my incorrect presumption Atangk! The MacBook Pros do come with USB-C to MagSafe 3 cable in the box. Therefore I take my argument back; this is a more environmentally friendly move to provide a cable that is less prone to breaking, and therefore less wear and tear on the logic board usb c ports.
so you are one of those ppl pushing the tech backwards? you are probably the kinda of person vote for 0 port devices.
I lost a 12” MacBook because my robot vacuum pulled the non mag safe cord
Battle bots at it again
I used to work at a school and the amount of broken Mac books from kids walking over cords was a big issue.
It's a USB charger still just a dedicated cable
That is redundant to any other device that is not a Macbook.
It is an appalling decision.
Get some perspective.
It's a cable. It serves a functional purpose that a lot of people have been requesting Apple to bring back. It's not going to singlehandedly destroy the planet.
I might be wrong here as it was all only announced a few hours ago, but I think MagSafe will provide faster charging than the USB ports. Given this is aimed at professionals, some would pay extra to have that ability.
Its still usb pd charging. So not faster at all.
Wrong - the higher end models in this line up come with a 140W charging brick. USB-C maxes out at 100W which is incapable of meeting the power demands of this device, and presumably apple incorporated magsafe into the lower end models for solidarity.
USB-C PD maxes out at 100W but there are Dell usb-c chargers that go higher. My Dell laptop came with this 130W https://www.dell.com/en-nz/shop/kit-e5-130w-type-c-ac-adapte…
You can still charge via USB-C on any of the other ports.
Or maybe it's because usb-c charging is limited to 100w atm, which isn't enough to charge it…
I agree, Thunderbolt/USB-C charge is the best. I'm using my 2019 MBP charged/casting through my monitor. it's bloody fantastic
really…?
Can you ask Mr Jobs what one more thing he’s bringing to the heaven?
Is this some sort of peasant joke?
There are plenty of alternatives and you don't always 'need' to have the latest tech if you can't afford it. Stop whining with this low effort overused copy-pasted youtube comment.
Awesome! Thanks OP. Worth bang for bucks than the freaking overpriced PC parts atm.
Still happy with my 2017 MBP
Not sure why you got downvoted? Just saying your opinion
Internet trolls will always be negative…
thanks for your support! hahaha
I think it's best if people who have the hardware already just stick to what they have if they're still happy with it and save the money on something else.
Like not upgrading every new phone or laptop release.
Yeah, I'm on the same page. Why upgrading if not needed? But it's kind of against OzBargain spirit, buy first and think(regret) later
Still working with my 2012 MBP— the first Retina model :)
Mine is on it's very last legs :(
This update has come at the right time - now to decide whether I want the much cheaper M1 Air or one of the new MBP - the education pricing is significantly cheaper!
If you can hold out till next year, the MBA is rumored to get a complete Apple Silicon optimised redesign and come in the iMac colours.
@poppingtags: You could probably upgrade now and then buy the new MBA next year if the rumour is true, selling this without losing too much value.
@poppingtags: That’s what I’m holding out for. Some noice colours! Don’t need the power. Just the purdy! 🔥❤️😝
Same boat as you. I ended up getting the top M1 Pro SoC with 32GB ram, hoping it'd last me just as long. I'm still on the fence about spending another $250 for the M1 Max…
@karu: Why get 32gb ram? That seems quite unneccessary unless you're doing some very unique workflows.
The way swap memory works on the M1 SOC, you really only need 16gb and upgrading the storage to ensure longevity.
2011 base model MBA checking in (still being used by my wife)
Tim Apple has a voodoo doll besides his bed just for you.
@Daabido: Haha. He must have been stabbing the battery since it lasts maybe 30 minutes on a good day. It's also stuck on High Sierra (10.13.6) so can't use Office 365 apps.
I bought my Wife a M1 ipad pro 11 with the magic keyboard a few months ago thinking she'd stop using the MBA, but she doesn't like it at all so might jump on a MBP 14 and sell the ipad. I've thought about installing a new battery into the old MBA but seems like over-capitalising.
Me too! Bought it refurbished from apple all those years ago. To be completely honest it still works great. Battery lasts 3-4 hours which isn’t too bad. It just get super hot but from what I’ve heard almost all the intel mac run hot anyway!
Permission granted to upgrade on 10 year anniversary.
Impressive. I nursed my 2011 MBP through to 2019 with a upgrade to SSD and increased RAM. Battery life was awful, and the replacement didn't go too well.
Upgraded to a MBA which has been going pretty well. The Apple silicon is looking pretty sexy though. Might still give it at another 2 years before I seriously consider upgrading
Yeah, I think the Retina model was also the first with the SSD, which helps a great deal. Indeed, battery life is non-existent now but I mainly use it as a home computer anyways so it's almost always plugged in.
I got my MBA M1 this year with trading in 2012 MBP, still some value if preserved well.
What do you use that for? Mine gave up after 5 years.
I know Apple gets a lot of flack from fanboys. But I’ve always had Apple stuff last 5+ years with minimal downtime. Which I've found has always helped with resale.
I also live close to an Apple store so if there’s issues, they’re normally sorted fairly quickly. Even repairs are generally done in less than 1 week.
Up until the last few years. There’s never been a Samsung/Microsoft store near me. I have no clue how long a warranty takes with these brands. Only exception is Dell.
Having had a few repairs with Samsung phones, service is excellent (drop off pick up).
Just be aware that Samsung won’t (at least in the past) repair or provide advice about stock not purchased in Australia/grey imports. I’ll be clear - I’m not suggesting they should for free, but to basically tell a Samsung device owner “you can’t pay to have it repaired and we can’t provide advice, you should have thought about that before not buying it locally” is not great service. I had issues multiple times with my two short-lived Samsung phones and my Samsung watch.
In comparison, I’ve had help with MS phones (back in the day) and Apple devices at their stores overseas without issue and got advice on a family member’s iPhone bought overseas from an “Apple genius” despite letting them know upfront it wasn’t local stock.
@tolchok: Noted and thanks. I haven't had that experience, as both were under warranty and AU stock. Out of warranty I tend to use independent repair shops or buy another phone if more economically viable.
@Supercool: My problem with both phones were that they were “edge” phones (I think s6 edge and s7 edge, though it might have been s7 and s8 edge - think I wrote about it on OzB at the time). The screens broke on both very soon after buying them and at the time the rounded screens were only available via authorised repairers who apparently couldn’t touch the phone without Samsung authorisation. I generally don’t break phone screens and should have learned after my first edge phone, but assumed that I’d just been very unlucky in the first instance. I also asked about battery life for my first edge phone and whether there were tips to improve it, and was met with rude comments rather than a willingness to help.
I did have a Samsung watch (hacked to run Android Wear), Samsung VR headset, and Samsung 360 degree camera, so wasn’t anti-Samsung (whatever the opposite of fanboy is), though I am now glad to be free from that ecosystem.
*** Also, importantly, I respect that you do like the ecosystem and think that is totally valid and fine.
@tolchok: My wife cracked the screen on her s7 edge in December 2016, and we couldn't get it serviced in Australia at all since it was purchased overseas and the model was the dual sim model from Singapore (back when dual sim wasn't really a big thing here in Australia). We ended up having to get someone to physically bring it back to Singapore to get it fixed (and pay for the curved screen which was $500) which was a frustration.
It's things like this which scare me away from buying anything grey/overseas if it's not clear that there's international warranty/support options available.
@tolchok: I've had my overseas iPhone warranty repaired (and eventually replaced) in Australia with no questions under AppleCare. The only issue was the wait time as they were required to located the same region model for the replacement as they were only able to swap out "like for like" models.
@lamb: During the great $29 battery swap a few years ago, I got a Japanese iPhone SE replaced with an Australian one at the Apple Store when they couldn't get the battery out.
@Daabido: no such luck during the february of of covid 2020 .. lol
at least that means you finally can take a pic without the shutter sound .. =D
Thank you, glad you’re enjoying Apple products.
I sent you an email today, Tim.
Personal experience.
Samsung tablet battery issue, went to high point store, won’t even look at it. said it’s not Australian model.
I am a apple fan, but after 10 years of apple products I thought I will try Samsung as I was getting S21 ultra below $1k. Tried it for 3 months. Plenty of hiccups and things I didn’t like about Samsung but I disregarded those as I invested in Samsung echo system. After that I had camera issue (not focusing).
This is where My nightmare started. Took it to some dodgy looking repair centre. So much back and forth. Samsung says talk to repair shop, shop says he got nothing to do with this. Well after 2 months or more I still don’t have a phone.
Apple has been so great, they replaced 2 phones on the spot for me. There support is way better then anyone else.
iPad 2009 still works.
MacBook 2010 works amazing(upgraded RAM n SSD hard disk myself).
I had a similar experience with an iphone SE. Couldn’t recharge properly due to physical damage to the port. Replace 23 months after purchase instore. Sometimes its better to pay a premium to avoid wasting your time.
My 2017 model A1707 which I bought in 2018 March for $3000 gave up yesterday. The battery was not charging and I was unable to boot up directly connected to the power either. Apple said problem in the logic board related to power and advised me to take it to 3rd party repairers since it would cost me $1200 to get it fixed at apple. Have given it to a local fellow to fix it with the hope they could get it to a state where I can recover last month data ( recent back up was a month ago)
I am Planning to buy a 16 inch model.
My previous mac book pro served me for almost 5 years (2012 model). I think I bought it for $2000 and sold it for $400 in 2018.
Couple of questions:
Besides Uni students and educators, who else is "eligible" for these edu discounts? Parents of primary-aged kids for example?
Also, has anyone who ordered from AOC been asked to prove their eligibility before receiving their order?
Cheers!
Pretty much any student and teacher is eligible. As for checks, I don't think I've heard of a confirmed story of someone actually having to give proof of their eligibility. Plus is it were to happen, the worst they could do is cancel the order, so pretty low risk for the savings.
I attend masters degree for university of Edinburgh via online course. I got a proper student card from them. Am I eligible? Or it has to be Australian institution?
I've never been personally checked, even when I picked it up in store
If you need, just flash a student card. It’s by discretion I don’t think there’s a proper checking method.
@ATangk: Yup. I was bought product at apple chaddy and they only check the student card also they said different UNI got different discount rate i Don't know how but i have 10% off .use my uni ID care
Pretty much any student and teacher is eligible.
Sorry, just to clarify are you saying that any student or teacher or eligible to purchase from the AOC portal or are you referring to the apple education store?
I thought AOC referred to the Australian Education Union which is in partnership with the ACTU. I can get free membership with an affiliated union (which i was planning to sign up to anyway).
Edit: i just managed to find the link which confirmed the above on the Apple site.
I can get free membership with an affiliated union (which i was planning to sign up to anyway).
Is that free for everyone to join?
If so, can you share the details or the link?
I recently bought and received an Macbook Air with 16gb ram for the wife and two iPads as gifts through the AOC. They never asked for identification and I just used my normal details. They discounted the upgrade in ram which was handy. I checked out as a guest if that helps?
My grade 7 English teacher rocked up at my door the other day, when I bought a Macbook through the Apple edu store.
She asked if I had improved my English reading and writing skills. I said I hadn't.
So she told Apple to cancel my order, and send me back to high school.
j/k… Apple never checks.
“May I speak with your mother?”
“Nah, she ain’t here”
“Excuse me, where is your grammar?”
“She’s upstairs taking a bath”
Hopefully the previous gen would get a price drop.