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50,000 Qantas Frequent Flyer Points - American Express Ultimate - No Annual Fee For First Year

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50,000 Qantas Frequent Flyer Points - American Express Ultimate - No Annual Fee For First Year
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latenight on 16/02/2015 - 10:42 americanexpress.com (5272 clicks)
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Earn up to 50,000 bonus Qantas Points when you apply by 15 March 2015, are approved and meet the spend criteria. This introductory offer is available to new American Express Card Members only. No annual fee for first year.

Eligibility
To save time before you apply for your Qantas American Express Ultimate Card, it's best to make sure you can say yes to the following:
I am aged over 18
I am an Australian citizen or permanent resident or hold a current Business Long Stay Visa (subclass 457)
I have a personal gross (pre-tax) annual income of $65,000 or more
I have no history of bad debt or payment default
And if self employed, I have been trading for at least 18 months or 12 months if I hold an existing American Express issued Card

42,500 Qantas Points after you spend $500 on purchases with your new Card within the first 3 months of becoming a Card Member;
5,000 Qantas Points after your first eligible purchase with the new Card;
2,500 Qantas Points will be awarded after your first Card spend on selected Qantas products and services in Australia.

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Referrer: 40,000 Reward Points

Centurion Personal Charge Card: random (7)

Referee gets 200,000 MR points. Referrer gets 150,000 MR points.

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    • get-innocuous on 16/02/2015 - 14:02
      +1

      You get considerably better value cashing in points for flights or upgrades than for gift vouchers.

      That said, it's not that good value - SYD-LAX return runs you about 160,000 points, so the 50k points are worth around $410 in flights.

      • damoo on 16/02/2015 - 21:13
        +1

        plus you still have to pay around $800 in airport fees for said syd-lax flight too correct?

        • get-innocuous on 17/02/2015 - 01:04
          +1

          That actually includes all fees covered - otherwise it's about 90,000 points return + $700 in fees.

  • k3nnis on 16/02/2015 - 12:30

    I am a long time plat EDGE holder, but never had the qantas amex ultimate card before, am I eligible for this offer?

  • devpress on 16/02/2015 - 12:30

    Hmm does a corporate green amex or BMW amex count as aamex issued card (and therefore not qualify for this deal)?

  • massari on 16/02/2015 - 12:31
    +2

    I called up Amex to Cancel my Discovery card.. and they said I am eligible for an offer of 23,000 Qantas points if I stay a customer.. Needless to say I still have my discovery card :)

    • JohnHowardsEyebrows on 16/02/2015 - 12:42
      +1

      When did you call?

      • massari on 16/02/2015 - 14:08
        +1

        Just before I posted. so about 2 hours ago I have been a customer since 2010 if that makes a difference

    • DS2k on 16/02/2015 - 12:43

      That sounds interesting, I was planning on cancelling my Discovery Card as well, Can you shed some light on this "offer" for 23,000 Qantas Points, I may drop an hint to retention team if I have some information about it.

      • massari on 17/02/2015 - 08:07

        Not much to say really. I wanted to cancel my card as they dicked me around for 2 weeks trying to get 7000$ Credit (Coles Balance Transfer) as a cheque. Ended up going to the FOS to get it sorted..

        Once the money was in my bank account, I called them up to cancel the AMEX card, mainly because I have the NAB Platinum card now (0 annual fee, 40k Qantas points) which gives me 1.5 points per 1$, as opposed to 1 point per 1$ with my discovery card.

        When I called up to cancel she said are you interested in 23000 points if you don't cancel your card, you are eligible for it? & I said yes..

        Having said that, when I cancelled my card the other week before I went to the FOS to get my 7000$, they person on the line didn't care and cancelled my account… The only reason it was re-activated was so I can upload a document for AMEX to get my money issued as a cheque.

        TLDR - Try cancel your card and see if they offer? Otherwise you can always re-activate your card if they give you nothing with no issues.

  • adam456 on 16/02/2015 - 12:33
    +1

    just for general information 56k Qantas points is a flight one way from Perth > Los Angeles. Return was 112k

  • Gotchas on 16/02/2015 - 12:37
    +2

    You can buy a fully refundable qantas flight and cancel the flight once you get the bonus points

    • damoo on 16/02/2015 - 13:05

      ? Why would you do that?

      • brazen00 on 16/02/2015 - 13:10
        +3

        for this part?

        2,500 Qantas Points will be awarded after your first Card spend on selected Qantas products and services in Australia.

  • nadan on 16/02/2015 - 13:12
    +1

    I didn't get instant approval but got an SMS notification some three hours later congratulating me on the card approval. No emails whatsoever though.

    • DealzEddy123 on 16/02/2015 - 13:15
      +1

      havnt gotten either :(

  • Duram on 16/02/2015 - 13:13

    Approved via mobile application.

    Gotta love them free points.

  • ChatCPT on 16/02/2015 - 13:34

    ah man, current amex holder, miss out damn!

  • Overtime2000 on 16/02/2015 - 13:47

    Wait a minute, no where on that page does it say there is ever an annual fee or how much it is.
    Also - it states that there is 'No annual fee', and doesnt seem to limit it to only the first year either.

    So, why are people saying that it is $495 a year after 1st year?

    • jaybmate on 16/02/2015 - 13:55

      Its actually $450, if you hit apply, and then click on key facts sheet.

  • keiz on 16/02/2015 - 13:55

    Did anyone go to finder.com.au and found that it is showing $0 annual fee as well? I called Amex too and they said in their system it's not showing as no annual fee for first year. They reckon it's a system glitch.

    Link below:
    http://www.creditcardfinder.com.au/american-express-qantas-u…

    I want to apply for the card but need clarification on the annual fee part.

    • nadan on 16/02/2015 - 14:00

      I would say it is fee free for the first year, given the limited time offer?

    • brazen00 on 16/02/2015 - 14:24

      When I rang them, "system glitch" is the answer I got too. They reckoned they wouldn't honour it.

  • n1ck on 16/02/2015 - 14:10
    +1

    I have an ANZ Platinum Amex, at first glance I saw 3 points per dollar on this card, but for everyday purchases, the ANZ Platinum is actually better (1.5 points per $ on everything). Is this right?

    • muncan on 16/02/2015 - 14:17
      +1

      50,000 bonus points for $500 spend is even better!
      (100 points per $ spent)

  • cocomelon on 16/02/2015 - 14:17
    +1

    American express issued cards
    https://www.americanexpress.com/au/content/all-cards/

    darn it, Im not illegible, closed my velocity Amex less than 12 months on June 2014

    • sash213 on 16/02/2015 - 15:15
      +12

      Oh you're illegible alright

  • Catsfan070911 on 16/02/2015 - 14:19

    Hooray approved, thanks OP :)

  • karansuper on 16/02/2015 - 14:25
    +1

    They have now fixed the technical glitch. Fees of $450 p.a. can now be seen.

    I wonder if they would honour all those who registered before this update.

    • Tuttle on 16/02/2015 - 14:37
      -1

      Maybe people are misreading this (unless it got changed)..?

      "$0 annual Card fee for Supplementary Cards6 so you can earn more points"

      Also clearly now states that the annual fee is $450..

      • nadan on 16/02/2015 - 14:41

        Got changed.

      • TRAVLER on 16/02/2015 - 14:42
        +2

        NO
        It was $0 annual Card fee just now they change it to 450

  • CyberMurning on 16/02/2015 - 14:34

    yes please post when anyone get card with the confirmation free annual fee for the first year~

  • n1ck on 16/02/2015 - 14:46

    Just called, they confirmed that it was an error and the marketing team is going to work out if they will honour the $0 annual fee for the first year. The lady told me to call back on Thursday and if they decide not to honour it, they can cancel my card.

    • Catsfan070911 on 18/02/2015 - 11:59

      Did you end up calling back?

  • rensman on 16/02/2015 - 14:47

    I've just been approved moments before the change back to the $450 annual fee, will be interesting to see how this goes down. Cards are in the mail apparently… stay tuned

  • cvas on 16/02/2015 - 14:53

    This will be interesting… I also got approved before the annual fee change.

  • Duram on 16/02/2015 - 15:01
    +2

    oooo that drama!

    • CyberMurning on 16/02/2015 - 16:13
      +2

      agree - this kind of drama is giving more excitements than getting the good deal itself!

  • eriktufa on 16/02/2015 - 16:56

    I'm still in the middle of the application. Not sure if it's worth submitting.

  • Holysmoke on 16/02/2015 - 17:08

    If anyone still interested in applying for these cards rather use the referral links which have a higher bonus point offering and everything else the same (note the $450 fee on the Ultimate card):
    10,000 bonus points on the Discovery card
    60,000 bonus points on the Ultimate card

    https://www.ozbargain.com.au/wiki/american_express_referrals

  • Gotchas on 16/02/2015 - 17:14

    You snooze
    You loose

    • spiff on 16/02/2015 - 17:36
      +15

      I suppose I do feel a bit looser after a snooze

  • Xizor on 16/02/2015 - 20:49
    +2

    Applied and instantly approved earlier today when it said $0, took a screenshot too. Be interesting to see what happens!

  • noskich on 17/02/2015 - 01:02
    +1

    Can any of you who took the screenshot upload it as an image for us who applied, got approved, but took no screenshot please?
    Thanks.

  • echelon6 on 17/02/2015 - 07:55
    +3

    I cancelled mine - they said on the phone they wouldn't be honouring their mistake

    • freelife on 17/02/2015 - 12:28
      +1

      You shouldn't have cancelled. I spoke with them yesterday and they are still working with their marketing team to remedy. I spoke with them yesterday where they said it was a first year fee waiver only. All their calls are recorded. As I understand it, contracts law requires they abide by their advertisements even if a mistake, let alone two in my case.

      • 000lynx on 17/02/2015 - 18:42
        +1

        Not sure about credit cards but for "Goods" Contracts law states that a "price" is only an invitation to make an offer. The vendor is still able to accept or reject that offer.

        So when you take your 2L bottle of milk to Coles, they may reject your "offer" and charge you more.

        However that's old and archaic. These days, false advertising or misleading and deceptive conduct laws apply so usually these large companies will just bow down and let you have the goods.

        But, interesting thing to keep in mind for smaller purchases/smaller businesses.

        • muncan on 17/02/2015 - 19:31
          +1

          I reject paying advertised prices, and look forward to haggling at the checkout!

        • freelife on 18/02/2015 - 18:35
          +1

          AMEX confirmed today they're honouring the 1st year annual fee waiver.

  • noskich on 17/02/2015 - 09:46
    +5

    Hmm, smells like Financial Ombudsman to me. Would be very surprised if they wouldn`t oblige after a complaint has been lodged.

  • jb6 on 17/02/2015 - 12:46

    Just spoke to amex. Apparently they haven't finalised what would happen with the mistake on their website. But there was the likelihood of "a" fee being charge, couldn't tell me more. Said call back when I receive the card and I can cancel then.

  • ellave on 17/02/2015 - 14:09

    Just received SMS to say I was approved, applied 24 hours ago. Whats the terms for returning an unwanted card without being charged an annual fee (if that suffices)?

    • muncan on 17/02/2015 - 14:45
      +1

      You could try waiting until you've got 50,000 bonus points before complaining…

    • easternculture on 17/02/2015 - 23:47

      Just dont activate it

    • freelife on 18/02/2015 - 18:36
      +1

      AMEX is honouring the 1st year annual fee waiver. Confirmed today over the phone. Letters will be out in the mail next 5 days to those approved.

  • Catsfan070911 on 17/02/2015 - 17:31

    Interesting, i was approved quite early on yesterday. Have saved the screen shot provided by 'freelife' above and wait with interest for a response.

  • PLANT on 18/02/2015 - 08:50

    How are people saving screen shots please?

  • echelon6 on 18/02/2015 - 15:49

    my wife got hers honoured but because i cancelled mine on the misinformation of their consultant telling me "it definitely won't be honoured" i missed out.

    • GMJ on 18/02/2015 - 15:53

      Interesting, I just got my card and wasn't sure what to do.

      What did your wife do to get it honoured?

      • DealzEddy123 on 18/02/2015 - 16:11
        +1

        easy.
        just refuse to pay annual fee and show them evidence (screenshot) and then threaten with fair trading & financial ombudsman if they dont honour.

        • [Deactivated] on 19/02/2015 - 14:44

          I tried this but didn't work. Should I just call back again?

        • DealzEddy123 on 19/02/2015 - 14:45
          +1

          how can it not work. it's bullshit. I'm actually gonna try say it's $0 for ever because the screenshot doesnt even say $0 "first year"

    • cvas on 18/02/2015 - 16:15

      How do you confirm the $0 annual fee will be honoured?

  • freelife on 18/02/2015 - 16:39

    Applied Monday arvo and card arrived in the mail today. I guess they want me to start using it asap.

    • freelife on 18/02/2015 - 18:31
      +2

      I just got off the phone with AMEX and they said they just made a decision today (Wed) to honour the 1st year annual fee waiver for me. Not sure if it's global so best you call and find out, if you did apply.

      • noblenick on 18/02/2015 - 19:00

        Hmm.. my call said it definitely wouldn't be offered and they tried to offer me the Amex Discovery card instead which is $0. I had the Ultimate card arrive this morning and it is now cut up and cancelled. I didn't activate it and they sounded resolute even after me saying I had screenshot.
        I am sure another good offer will come up.

        • Xizor on 18/02/2015 - 19:13

          When i called up the rep had no idea about whether there was a mistake or not but on my account number she said there is no fee listed and if there was a fee it would be there as part of the order that create it, and its not… so she said no annual fee first year.

          The lady also said that regardless there is a 60 day grace period so can cancel within that time and fee is reversed.

        • muncan on 18/02/2015 - 19:25

          there is a 60 day grace period so can cancel within that time and fee is reversed

          Ahem… that sounds like there's sufficient time for everyone else to sign up for the card now blissfully ignorant of the $450 annual fee, scoop up the bonus points, then cancel the card requesting the fees to be reversed. No?

        • Xizor on 18/02/2015 - 19:34
          +1

          @muncan:

          T&C's state "Please allow 8 to 10 weeks after the spend criteria has been met for the points to be credited to your account."

  • bargainhunter8888 on 19/02/2015 - 10:00
    +1

    Just phoned up this morning to get confirmation that its first year free and that they'll be sending me a letter to confirm this

  • dumkaze on 19/02/2015 - 10:42
    +1

    yeah me too.. they confirmed first year is free

  • jammy2006 on 19/02/2015 - 11:04

    The guy I'm talking with on the phone this morning indicates they know about the $0 annual fee error, but will NOT be honoring it. This is in contradiction to what others are reporting.

    • dumkaze on 19/02/2015 - 11:40

      I called this morning as well .. he said they are honouring it… may be try again…

    • [Deactivated] on 19/02/2015 - 14:43

      I had the same as this, but "it is currently being investigated" and that the fee will apply on 13-March if I don't cancel by then. I got that from a supervisor. Anyone else?

  • dumkaze on 19/02/2015 - 11:47

    Anybody knows how does the domestic Return flight works with this card.. I mean is there any condition to book it ?

  • applejack on 19/02/2015 - 17:55
    +4

    Total bait and switch. Got called by Amex guy who was quite rude and didn't want to acknowledge error. Was adamant that fee was $450.

  • flashkick on 19/02/2015 - 18:11
    +2

    Got my card today, spoke to a lady called Cindy.
    She said if your application time was during the website error you will be refunded and get a year free.
    The fee will be on the first statement and be refunded the next.
    Ask for her if you have any issues, she seems switched on.

    • Xizor on 19/02/2015 - 18:39
      +2

      It is amazing how useless they appear to be with handling this. Everyone who calls has a different experience. In spite of what i was told i expect to see the charge come through..

      • flashkick on 19/02/2015 - 19:09
        +1

        The charge will come through but will be refunded "apparently"

  • nikcrazyivan on 20/02/2015 - 09:46

    Just got off the phone this morning at 9.40AM with Jessica. She stated that their fraud team is looking into how the deal was posted as it is not valid. Will not be honouring the first year free. Also (and this is the kicker) their cancellation system is down so you can't cancel right now - need to call later today/tomorrow.

  • DealzEddy123 on 20/02/2015 - 09:49
    -2

    relax people. stop calling up seriously… all your doing is making them aware of the problem and getting their legal team all over it.

    just use the card and then when it's time to pay the fee, dont pay it and dispute it at that stage.

  • TRAVLER on 20/02/2015 - 22:02
    +1

    Receive the card today didn't call them yet
    If anyone receive a letter saying that they waive the fees for the first year please post it

  • TeeJay on 21/02/2015 - 23:28
    +1

    Called this morning. Confirmed it would be waived for the first year

  • Overtime2000 on 22/02/2015 - 16:32

    So anyway, I got my card and the documentation with it.
    Turns out - I am not a new amex member- Yep I forgot I had an old AMA American express card which I havent used for about 5 years.
    So I called up AMEX to cancel my new qantas card (thinking I would have to pay $450).
    They told me due to this 'glitch' they are not charging $450 for the first year. I will not however, receive the bonus 50k QFF point - dammit.
    I will be able to get the free domestic flight though

    Oh well. Still a win I suppose. Should've cancelled my old AMA Amex prior to signing up though.

  • Catsfan070911 on 22/02/2015 - 19:09

    Just called and spoke to 'Ben', was told that yes there was a $450 annual card fee but that due to the error with the website they had been told they will be crediting this charge. Said the fee will show up on March 13th statement if it is charged to account. It should then be credited automatically but i should keep an eye on it and if it is not credited, ring back up again. I made sure to document that i spoke to Ben from the account services team at 6.00pm on Sunday the 22nd of February haha.

  • n1ck on 23/02/2015 - 12:30
    +1

    There still seems to be so many conflicting responses from Amex. I have had one person say flat out 'No, the fee will be $450' and then called back 5 mins later and had a guy tell me that the $0 first year will be honoured. Now there's people saying they wont get the 50,000 points. What is wrong with Amex? Has anyone had any responses today?

  • Catsfan070911 on 23/02/2015 - 13:12
    +1

    Hi N1ck, there seems to be only one person stating they would not receive their 50k QFF points, however this was because they are not a new AMEX card holder which was a stated requirement originally.

    I think as long as you keep a record of who you spoke to and at what time you should be fine, as long as you got someone to tell you they would be refunding the annual fee that should override the person who told you they will not honour it :)

  • starkers on 23/02/2015 - 13:44
    +4

    Success!

    I sent through an email (logging into the Amex account page) to enquire about the fee. Their reply (in writing:

    Dear ——-,

    Thank you for writing back.

    Yes, this has been a technical error at our end. Please be assured that we will be pro-actively refunding all our Card members impacted by this error. The Annual Membership Fee of $450.00 which will be assessed in your first statement will be refunded and credited back to your Account in due course and your Card will be a First Year Free Card.

    Please be assured that you are a valuable Card member for us and we appreciate your business.

    I hope you'll continue to use American Express as the Card of your choice and refer us to your friends and family.

    Sincerely,

    • Catsfan070911 on 23/02/2015 - 14:01
      +1

      Written proof! Even better!
      Thanks starkers

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