Carl's Jr. - 20 Restaurants Closed

LBazzywazzy on 29/07/2024 - 16:40
Last edited 30/07/2024 - 11:51 by 2 other users

Hey guys, everyone in my restaurant just got fired, no notice period no nothing. Anyway any questions you guys have I can answer

Context: 2 new people were chosen to make the decision, financially Carl's Jr. wasn't doing too well so they closed 20 restaurants and 4 are going to be kept up

Mod 30/7 - 20 out of the 49 Stores have closed down. 4 Continue to trade in administration, 25 stores are independently owned and aren't in administration and trade as normal (including all stores in SA).

Based on the initial stages of this assessment, the Voluntary Administrators will continue to trade 4 of the owned and operated CJ’s Group restaurants on a business-as-usual basis. 20 restaurants will be immediately closed as of the date of the appointment.

The appointment of Voluntary Administrators excludes the 25 restaurants independently owned and operated by third-party sub-licensees. These restaurants will be transitioned to a direct licensed relationship with CKE Restaurants Holdings, Inc. (CKE). The Voluntary Administrators anticipate minimal change in the continued operation of these locations.

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Comments

  • serpserpserp on 29/07/2024 - 21:03

    I drive past Carl Jrs on Sydney road all the time. I really want to go but just never had the right time. It is really in a bad spot too. Is that one closing?

  • TEER3X on 29/07/2024 - 21:12
    +1

    Appears 49 stores affected…. but there are 25 independently operated

    https://archive.is/XnRwy

    • netjock on 30/07/2024 - 08:16
      +2

      Think it is the ones run by the master franchise that has gone under.

      Imagine being a franchisee and all your head office support evaporate.

  • Costanza on 29/07/2024 - 21:13
    +19

    Voluntary Administration
    https://kpmg.com/au/en/home/creditors/carlsjr.html

    Companies subject to Administration
    CJ’s QSR Group Pty Ltd ACN 614 373 474
    CJ'S QSR (Franchise) Group Pty Ltd ACN 647 175 880
    CJ'S Melton Pty Ltd ACN 636 648 792
    CJ'S Wetherill Park Pty Ltd ACN 642 535 420
    CJ'S Thomastown Pty Ltd ACN 630 636 305
    CJ'S Bringelly Pty Ltd ACN 646 224 311
    CJ'S Lyndhurst Pty Ltd ACN 640 121 375
    CJ'S Epping Pty Ltd ACN 640 214 866
    CJ'S Altona Pty Ltd ACN 630 537 030
    CJ'S Dandenong Pty Ltd ACN 628 410 819
    CJ'S Shepparton Pty Ltd ACN 637 161 767
    CJ'S Knox Pty Ltd ACN 626 822 115
    CJ'S Ballarat Pty Ltd ACN 628 062 966
    CJ'S Docklands Pty Ltd ACN 628 618 708
    CJ'S Greenvale Pty Ltd ACN 628 410 524
    CJS (Williams Landing) Pty Ltd ACN 621 777 035
    CJs (Cranbourne) Pty Ltd ACN 621 777 302
    CJ'S Clayton Pty Ltd ACN 641 324 030
    CJ'S Dubbo Pty Ltd ACN 642 534 656
    CJ'S Braybrook Pty Ltd ACN 650 365 183
    CJ'S Epsom Pty Ltd ACN 639 187 527
    CJ'S Bathurst Pty Ltd ACN 653 715 087
    CJ'S Wodonga Pty Ltd ACN 647 153 277
    CJ'S Craigieburn Pty Ltd ACN 641 324 236
    CJ'S Campbellfield Pty Ltd ACN 642 534 665
    CJ'S Fortitude Valley Pty Ltd ACN 672 087 651
    CJ'S Tarneit Pty Ltd ACN 662 375 126
    CJ'S Piara Waters Pty Ltd ACN 667 225 710
    CJ's Bayswater Pty Ltd ACN 637 161 776
    CJ's Hervey Bay Pty Ltd ACN 638 955 718
    CJ's Beaconsfield Pty Ltd ACN 638 955 736
    CJ's Armstrong Creek Pty Ltd ACN 642 912 383
    CJ's Nowra Pty Ltd ACN 643 168 683
    CJ's Orange Pty Ltd ACN 646 224 320
    CJ's Mordialloc Pty Ltd ACN 646 224 473
    CJ's Warrawong Pty Ltd ACN 647 175 871
    CJ's Gregory Hills Pty Ltd ACN 652 841 720
    CJ's Moe Pty Ltd ACN 652 881 091
    CJ's Sunbury Pty Ltd ACN 653 234 649
    CJ's Seaford Pty Ltd ACN 653 435 655
    CJ's Clyde North Pty Ltd ACN 655 779 865
    CJ's Butler Pty Ltd ACN 658 762 040
    CJ's Tapping Pty Ltd ACN 659 692 949
    CJ's Mirrabooka Pty Ltd ACN 660 670 226
    CJ's Ellenbrook Pty Ltd ACN 662 375 135
    CJ's Acacia Ridge Pty Ltd ACN 667 225 701
    CJ's Grafton Pty Ltd ACN 673 737 034
    CJ's Byford Pty Ltd ACN 675 158 577
    CJ's East Albury Pty Ltd ACN 647 311 233

    • berger on 29/07/2024 - 22:02
      +1

      Terrible locations. Ballarat and Albury were never going to succeed. Premium burgers in country towns doomed form the beginning.

      • Guybrush57 on 29/07/2024 - 22:06
        +1

        The Albury one never opened. It's just a rebadged ABN from a Melbourne store.

        • elgrande on 30/07/2024 - 07:56
          +2

          Yep, had to drive accross the border to Wodonga..

      • gromit on 30/07/2024 - 08:25
        +1

        For any popular fast food Albury/woodonga is an excellent location, all the traffic for Melb-Sydney

      • DONMAI on 31/07/2024 - 20:57

        premium? :O

    • duluxe2000 on 29/07/2024 - 22:03
      +1

      Why is each store a separate company ? What the benefit of doing it ?

      • Wiadro on 29/07/2024 - 22:10
        +4

        as far as I understand it, each store was its own franchise even when company-owned.

        • MrFrugalSpend on 29/07/2024 - 23:05
          +2

          exactly - benefits:
          - You sell the franchise and that's how you fund your rapid expansion and have someone local actually caring about running it;
          - Risk mitigation, spreads it with the franchisee and separates each from the other.

          • Wiadro on 29/07/2024 - 23:31

            @MrFrugalSpend: Sadly they never sold these off so the risk was entirely with head office.

            • MrFrugalSpend on 29/07/2024 - 23:37

              @Wiadro: Sure but that was the plan, the question was asked why people do it, not whether they've had success in this case. Regardless, the risk mitigation could still have worked / work yet, as they may have kept profitable stores in separate legal entities isolated along with their transactions with third parties from the rest of the mess.
              Clearly all the entities listed here have been dragged into it, that's not to say there isn't others that are still happily not involved that creditors / administrators can't touch. More likely its all one tangled mess and they've thrown in the towel, but its possible with this segregated arrangement and good planning to take out part of a group of businesses only.

              • Wiadro on 29/07/2024 - 23:42

                @MrFrugalSpend: But if the main franchise company topples, don’t they all?

                • MrFrugalSpend on 31/07/2024 - 14:25

                  @Wiadro: Not in the legal entity sense - not really.
                  The individual companies are exactly that.
                  They may not be able to function as Carls Jnr, as that is a brand licensed by the franchisor that fell over so the franchise agreement will be invalidated, but if Joe and Mary Bloggs bought a franchise, own CJ's XYZ Pty Ltd, and they are trading fine, and solvent, then they have their own legal contracts with whoever, maybe even their own lease, so there's no need for them to be dragged into any dissolution or pursued for Carl's Jnr's debts, so they could re-brand their business CJ's Burgers and carry on. A friend of mine did this, they still operate a business today as an independent store that was once part of a franchise group that failed 20+ years ago.

      • netjock on 30/07/2024 - 08:17

        You can sell it to a sucker… Franchisee I mean…

        If master franchise goes bust I don't hold much hope for the franchisees.

    • Ghost47 on 29/07/2024 - 22:04

      Interesting, some of the restaurants that appear on the website appear on this list. I guess the website can't be relied on then.

      • Guybrush57 on 29/07/2024 - 22:06

        Click on the more information button for each store you think is closing down and see if it does to the right page.

        • Ghost47 on 29/07/2024 - 22:38

          Some stores aren't appearing at all (e.g. Knox) but some are with broken links (e.g. Wondonga) and some are fine (e.g. Bringelly). All these examples appear in the list above though, so going to guess that the site admin is still working through the stores.

      • Brick Tamland on 30/07/2024 - 17:11
        +1

        They are in administration only so they may continue trading, or they may not.

    • Kranbone on 29/07/2024 - 22:42
      +1

      Sad that my local is on that list. The people there were very good and it was much better than HJ (after a slow start).

    • lachhelix on 30/07/2024 - 00:48
      +1

      Totally insane - they like JUST opened Beaconsfield a month or two ago

      • sheebies on 30/07/2024 - 09:13

        Epsom was opened October last year.

        they gave out free burgers for a year to the first person through the door or some similar promotion.. and they didn’t even last a year..

        • Brick50 on 31/07/2024 - 17:56

          Can't have been the location.. I'm sure the demographic of epsom/huntly/jackass flat is perfect for them!

          • sheebies on 01/08/2024 - 16:37
            +1

            @Brick50: From what I've heard and (i know a few people who work in the complex) no one went there, it was over priced for average food. I guess it also didn't help that the bendigo newspaper ran an article about how the people in the nearby milk bar were outraged that their kids wouldn't be able to attend ballet lessons if their profits dropped.

    • Vool on 30/07/2024 - 10:30

      A few of these don't even exist yet, can you close something that was never open? 🤣

      • holdenmg on 30/07/2024 - 10:48
        +1

        Masters did.

    • Pinchy on 30/07/2024 - 11:10

      My locals isn’t on this list. Yay! Wonder how long that will last.

    • freoleo on 01/08/2024 - 00:25
      +1

      FFS, all the WA stores are on here before even opening, was looking forward to this after having it in America earlier this year

    • koplik8 on 01/08/2024 - 16:03

      25 sublicensed Carl’s Jr restaurants not subject to the Voluntary Administration
      https://carlsjr.com.au/2/news/

      Victoria

      Carl’s Jr. Armstrong Creek
      Carl’s Jr. Beaconsfield

      New South Wales

      Carl’s Jr. Bateau Bay – Central Coast
      Carl’s Jr. Glendale – Central Coast
      Carl’s Jr. Nowra – South Coast
      Carl’s Jr. Warrawong – South Coast
      Carl’s Jr. Bringelly – Western Sydney

      South Australia

      Carl’s Jr.Clearview
      Carl’s Jr. Elizabeth
      Carl’s Jr. Kilburn
      Carl’s Jr. Mr Barker
      Carl’s Jr. Pooraka
      Carl’s Jr. St Peters
      Carl’s Jr. West Lakes

      Queensland

      Carl’s Jr. Eagleby
      Carl’s Jr. Hope Island
      Carl’s Jr. Logan Village
      Carl’s Jr. Molendinar
      Carl’s Jr. Morayfield
      Carl’s Jr. Pimpama
      Carl’s Jr. Redbank Plains
      Carl’s Jr. Riverview
      Carls Jr. Rockhampton
      Carls Jr. Rothwell
      Carl’s Jr. Slacks Creek
      Carl’s Jr. West Ipswich

  • Wiadro on 29/07/2024 - 21:18

    went a few times, for a cheap lunch ($5 burger and $2 fries)
    don't know how they made money tbh
    looked full of staff, and no customers

    • SydStrand on 29/07/2024 - 22:26

      It was always suspiciously cheap. I went as recently as last weekend through Wodonga and had a large-ish burger, chips and drink for $9.95. That undercut Macca's and KFC. It's never been very good, though, all the burgers are dry af. I'd honestly rate Hungry Jack's more.

      • Wiadro on 29/07/2024 - 23:36
        +2

        I always get a horrible aftertaste with HJ, which I don’t get with Carl JR.
        my local everyone was wayyyyyyyy to nice for a $5 burger joint.

      • smartazz104 on 30/07/2024 - 12:02
        +1

        I'd honestly rate Hungry Jack's more.

        The key is the microwaves.

    • pharkurnell on 30/07/2024 - 10:15

      For $5.00 must have been floor sweepings….

  • noz on 29/07/2024 - 21:18
    +2

    Been there twice, had bad experiences both times .. never went again.

  • Poor Ass on 29/07/2024 - 21:21
    +7

    LMAO

    CJ'S Fortitude Valley Pty Ltd ACN 672 087 651

    This store is set to open in August and already set to close

    • Plasma on 29/07/2024 - 21:37
      +1

      Bit like a Masters store that was built in Adelaide and nearly ready to go.

      The Tarneit store in Vic only opened a few weeks ago and survives for now being a franchisee.

      • Poor Ass on 29/07/2024 - 22:50

        The worse was Taco Bell

        Tasteless cold food everytime

    • holdenmg on 30/07/2024 - 00:51

      Waneroo (WA) just approved a Carl’s Jr, Starbucks, Grill’d and Red Rooster.

      Wonder if it will ever open.

      • Poor Ass on 30/07/2024 - 07:58

        Ahh my old favourite location for the 7 Eleven chopper. RIP.

  • Cherry12 on 29/07/2024 - 21:51
    +3

    These were my favourite burgers and fries, too bad they are closing. They just opened a store near my area a year ago.

    I always got good prices with the app.

  • berger on 29/07/2024 - 22:00
    +5

    How do Wendy’s think they will succeed here is beyond me.

    • pharkurnell on 30/07/2024 - 10:13

      Run with the Maccas business model…

    • smartazz104 on 30/07/2024 - 12:02

      But they have square patties.

  • holdenmg on 29/07/2024 - 22:02
    +3

    Beloved US burger chain Carl’s Jr goes into administration in Australia
    https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/food/restaurants-bars/belo…

    • Guybrush57 on 29/07/2024 - 22:07
      +4

      Beloved? When it had not enough customers?

      • berger on 29/07/2024 - 22:22
        +4

        News.com.au always have stupid headlines

        Hugely popular brewery collapse
        Popular cafe
        Cult restaurant
        Etc.. mostly places never heard of

        • Wiadro on 29/07/2024 - 22:28
          +4

          dont forget the onlyfans model who owns 8 houses and is "unemployed"

    • DemocracyManifest on 30/07/2024 - 20:56

      ‘ The CJ’s Group independently owns and operates 24 restaurants, while it is a master licensee to the remaining 25 locations, which are owned and operated by third-party sub-licensees’
      What a surprise 😳

  • Guybrush57 on 29/07/2024 - 22:08
    +1

    Sorry to hear you and your friends have lost your jobs, OP.

  • plmko on 29/07/2024 - 23:16
    +7

    Sad to see it go when Maccas continues to dish trash to us at high prices.

    • Wiadro on 29/07/2024 - 23:34
      -2

      Blame the boomers and their kids.
      They grew up on Maccas.
      My boomer father thinks burgers from an independent burger shop or even HJ are absolutely shithouse compared to Maccas.

      • elgrande on 30/07/2024 - 08:02

        Thats because your dad doesn't watch tiktoks that convince him that burgers from a random food truck with a 2 star food safety rating are better than an established burger company..

        • Wiadro on 30/07/2024 - 08:26

          I wouldn’t eat from a food truck anyway.

      • smartazz104 on 30/07/2024 - 12:03
        +1

        Weird, considering many of them would have grown up when there were no Maccas around.

      • gromit on 30/07/2024 - 14:53
        +1

        Maccas didn't even exist in Australia till the 70's and took quite a few years to be prolific. Hell I grew up in the 70's and 80's and the nearest maccas was over 100km's away. If anything your Boomer dad seems a wierd exception.

  • machej on 29/07/2024 - 23:19
    +1

    Yet somehow the valuation of GYG holds up high.

    • umoddbro on 30/07/2024 - 15:05
      +3

      Held up by hype, $3bn valuation for subpar overpriced fake Mexican food… Can't wait to watch the SP massively tank next quarter.

      • Youi2018 on 01/08/2024 - 22:43
        +1

        I had it the other day , doesn't deserve the hype . Food isn't nice

  • RPGPlayer on 29/07/2024 - 23:27
    +5

    In and Out burgers would do so well in Australia.

    • hopper on 30/07/2024 - 06:40
      +1

      I remember i was in LA few years ago waking down the street and a massive line of cars waiting in drive thru till end of the street. crazy

    • Wiadro on 30/07/2024 - 08:27

      Absolutely nothing special

    • Notoriouzs on 30/07/2024 - 11:46
      +2

      The problem is the quality doesn't carry across when they come here - We've seen it time and time again with multiple chains.

      • smartazz104 on 30/07/2024 - 12:03
        +2

        It should be better hear, Americans have low standards.

        • RPGPlayer on 31/07/2024 - 12:32

          Hi, I agree with you very much. Our McDonald's is superior to the USA and some parts of the UK/ Europe. I understand that Australia also introduced the McCafe concept worldwide.

    • Brick Tamland on 30/07/2024 - 17:13
      -1

      They aren't that great. In and Out could do well if priced competitively with Maccas though. A fish and chip shop or Grill'd burger is way nicer

      • pharkurnell on 31/07/2024 - 10:08

        Yea local burger joint wipes any thought of maccas or hj's now… be better if they had better parking

  • TozBargain on 30/07/2024 - 00:24
    +1

    Carl's Jr is dogshit. My sister and her boyfriend won a free burger every week for a year, so I'd go with them every so often. Food ranges from average to very shit. I knew they were destined to go out of business when I first saw their nuggets, which are the pink slop shaped into a star with terrible crumbing. The fact that everyone who was running the place was okay with those nuggets really goes to show it's a miracle they even lasted this long.

    They also had the worst hamburger (the cheapest plain burger you can buy) in Australia, beating out Hungry Jacks somehow. That's as impressive as it is terrible.

    So yeah, everything was shit and this is no surprise they've shut down.

    • pharkurnell on 30/07/2024 - 09:41

      Food ranges from average to very shit

      you could say that for all the big US take away and vomit stores….

    • churningNburning on 30/07/2024 - 11:53

      DOG SHIT!

  • H3R34TH4C0MM3NTS on 30/07/2024 - 02:28
    +2

    Reminds me when Quiznos went balls up, Subway they are asking for $16 for a footlong when I can make a better sandwich at home. Surely Subway are next, the corporate structure of chain restaurants isn't bringing the brand recognition and economies of scale that it used to. This correction is neccessary.

    • Jolakot on 30/07/2024 - 08:20
      +3

      Subway has far lower overhead costs, you can run a location with just one staff member during quiet times, and the tiny storefront means low rent. A dead store can still be profitable, so they'll stick around like cockroaches in an apocalypse.

      • superuser on 30/07/2024 - 17:57

        Subway is decent enough to keep me come back whenever i pass by. Seem busy in Sydney cbd around lunch time.

    • pharkurnell on 31/07/2024 - 10:08
      +1

      My issue with subway is everything tastes the same.

  • hopper on 30/07/2024 - 06:38
    +1

    they need to spice up their Ad campaign

  • hopper on 30/07/2024 - 06:42

    Damn, My kid loves their star nuggets a lot. He will miss them now :(

  • Mugsy on 30/07/2024 - 07:48

    There's a whole bunch of stores in SE Queensland not on the voluntary admin list… more than 4.

    I am also assuming the Acacia Ridge store is not the Acacia Ridge in Brisbane… pretty sure there's no Carl's Jr there.

  • EightImmortals on 30/07/2024 - 08:15
    +3

    Brought to you by Carl's Jr

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAM1rSObk4c

    • Pantagonist on 02/08/2024 - 07:12
      +1

      You are an unfit mother. Your children have been placed in the custody of Carl's Jr.

  • netjock on 30/07/2024 - 09:12

    Sorry to hear OP. Hope things get better.

  • MrShackleford on 30/07/2024 - 09:17

    Gone into administration..

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13683901/US-burger-…

  • Archi on 30/07/2024 - 09:39

    Carl Jnr tastes different in America.

    • skid on 30/07/2024 - 11:39

      How different? I've only tasted the ones in America and thought the burgers were pretty good. The comments in this thread say the Australian version is inedible.

      • Archi on 30/07/2024 - 11:48

        it's better in the way of taste profiles are dialled up like salt and fat… but also they have different things on their menu as well.

        our Maccas here taste better than America..

        • skid on 30/07/2024 - 12:04

          How long ago since you've tried McD in the US? I tried it half a year ago and they've finally dropped the corn-based sweetener. The bun is sugar glazed. The lettuce isn't as crisp but the USA burgers are tasting a lot similar than they used to.

          • Daabido on 31/07/2024 - 18:24

            @skid: I haven't tried American, but the Japanese is top notch. It leaves Australia in the shade.

            • skid on 01/08/2024 - 09:05

              @Daabido: Yeh, agree. It cost double when I was there, but worth it.

      • JimJim on 30/07/2024 - 17:43
        +1

        The quality varied from store-to-store. I never thought much of it at the Docklands store, but the Altona North store always served up great food.

  • dvstec on 30/07/2024 - 09:40

    Just opened the one near me last month, I was so excited I love Carls Jr - So bummed now

  • Misha Bakunin on 30/07/2024 - 10:29

    Never got to try Carl's, I live only 10 km from Melbourne CBD yet would have to travel and hour (there and back) to get to the closest one.

    They seem to mainly have places in the far outer suburbs.

  • iNeed2Pee on 30/07/2024 - 10:44

    MSJB, if these burgers were better than Hungry Jacks they would not have gone belly up.
    The truth of the matter as at least HJ has always been consistent. Carls Jr had a typical bait and switch happening. Open up a new store, ensure the quality was top than eventually change it. Hope no one notices it and move on.

    Goodbye Carl's. No one shall miss you

    • smartazz104 on 30/07/2024 - 13:13

      Hope no one notices it and move on.

      Doesn't seem to have affected the "established" franchises. I mean Maccas has successfully manage to shrink their burgers and people still eat their food…

  • Kiro on 30/07/2024 - 11:41
    +2

    Carls, hungry jacks, burger king…. all the same broiled meat paddies.

  • AndyRates on 30/07/2024 - 12:32
    +3

    What's the likelihood of Wendy's, Jollibee and in and out surviving now in Aus?

    • Roe Jogan on 30/07/2024 - 13:12

      in n out has the brand behind it, its like free advertising from the usa (LA) social media scene and influencers, where as carls jr was meh

    • Ghost47 on 30/07/2024 - 16:15

      Maybe if they don't open a whole bunch of stores rapidly they'll do alright.

      • Roe Jogan on 02/08/2024 - 16:17

        they dont even do that in USA, they are very careful i watched a whole doco about it, was interesting, they are only present in Western USA for that reason, they dont wana expand and loose quality, they also wana own the entire line of produce, all in house

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