Carl's Jr. - 20 Restaurants Closed

LBazzywazzy on 29/07/2024 - 16:40
Last edited 30/07/2024 - 11:51 by 2 other users

Hey guys, everyone in my restaurant just got fired, no notice period no nothing. Anyway any questions you guys have I can answer

Context: 2 new people were chosen to make the decision, financially Carl's Jr. wasn't doing too well so they closed 20 restaurants and 4 are going to be kept up

Mod 30/7 - 20 out of the 49 Stores have closed down. 4 Continue to trade in administration, 25 stores are independently owned and aren't in administration and trade as normal (including all stores in SA).

Based on the initial stages of this assessment, the Voluntary Administrators will continue to trade 4 of the owned and operated CJ’s Group restaurants on a business-as-usual basis. 20 restaurants will be immediately closed as of the date of the appointment.

The appointment of Voluntary Administrators excludes the 25 restaurants independently owned and operated by third-party sub-licensees. These restaurants will be transitioned to a direct licensed relationship with CKE Restaurants Holdings, Inc. (CKE). The Voluntary Administrators anticipate minimal change in the continued operation of these locations.

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Comments

  • CodeXD on 29/07/2024 - 16:44
    +52

    Sorry to hear mate.

    • Bazzywazzy on 29/07/2024 - 17:00
      +55

      honestly i was pretty done with the place, planning to leave soon so i don't really care about it except the part where im not making money

        • ColonelSanders on 30/07/2024 - 11:17
          +33

          What a ridiculous thing to say.

        • brifog on 30/07/2024 - 15:01
          +23

          Yeah this one employee was definitely the downfall of the entire Carls Jr franchise in Australia…

          • mapax on 30/07/2024 - 15:04
            +9

            @brifog: Whew, I was worried it was my fault because I refused to try it for so long…

        • JH100 on 30/07/2024 - 15:27
          +3

          Culture comes or is enabled from the top.

        • 2esc on 30/07/2024 - 18:00
          +2

          People can perform exceptionally well at a job but still not feel the job is for them for a range of reasons.

        • sauce2k on 31/07/2024 - 13:11
          +3

          following your energy - OZB would have been a better place if it wasn't for d********like you mate

        • Brianqpr on 31/07/2024 - 15:46

          Sounds like you need a friend.

        • Bluto Mindpretzel on 31/07/2024 - 16:35

          Or you were.

        • beltdrive on 12/08/2024 - 22:39

          lol. bootlicker.

      • HeWhoKnows on 30/07/2024 - 10:57
        +10

        Cafe and restaurant closures are up 50% on last year.
        Hospitality industry is really hurting right now…

        Higher wage costs
        Higher raw material costs
        Higher energy costs
        Higher transport/delivery costs
        Then you have….
        Less customers eating out or less frequently
        Customers spending less

        See here: https://www.lightspeedhq.com.au/blog/restaurant-inflation/

        • banana365 on 30/07/2024 - 17:34
          +6

          Higher wage costs? Any wage increases since they opened have been minimal. Even the article you linked to doesn't say that's a factor.

        • superuser on 31/07/2024 - 07:10

          “Profit margins have traditionally sat at around 10 per cent." Anyone here in industry could confirm this?

      • Loopholio on 30/07/2024 - 12:01

        @Bazzywazzy did your store serve their burgers lukewarm? My local store never serves their food hot and I'm wondering if it's all stores.

        (I don't work there)

        • Bazzywazzy on 30/07/2024 - 13:20
          +1

          just depends on the person and managers, we were more carefree but then they tried to become more strict but it didn't really work. Some managers don't give a (profanity), some don't care what they do but care if the others do their job properly and a minority care about both. If it's busy then it's probs lukewarm

            • Bazzywazzy on 30/07/2024 - 21:27
              +2

              @ipiok: aww thanks man :D

      • brandt on 05/08/2024 - 12:07
        +2

        make sure your super and entitlements are paid in full by Carl Jr. and if he doesn't dont hesitate to go to Carl Sr.

  • Minimum chips on 29/07/2024 - 16:50

    Are you all casual workers?

    • Bazzywazzy on 29/07/2024 - 16:51
      +8

      managers are part time/full time, normal workers are all casual atleast in my place

        • OZKap on 29/07/2024 - 19:24
          +61

          Not to sound harsh, but who asked?

        • CrispyChrispy on 29/07/2024 - 19:56
          +21

          OP isn't complaining lol

          • bobbified on 30/07/2024 - 09:07
            +6

            @CrispyChrispy:

            everyone in my restaurant just got fired, no notice period no nothing.

            My bad, I guess…. i read that bit above in the OP as a complaint.

      • tonka on 07/08/2024 - 19:19

        I see casual employment as unfair were employers expect casuals to behave like they are permanent. A casual employee should by definition be unreliable, not show up for a shift if they don't want to and not carry any responsibility.

        • Qazxswec on 07/08/2024 - 19:22

          you get more money on casual and still have most of your rights these days especially if you can establish a pattern of shifts, i have always been casual and will never go to part time/full time, people have tried to put me on a salary but i always say no

          • tonka on 07/08/2024 - 20:00

            @Qazxswec: Paid annual leave and public holidays is worth approx an extra 15% on top of a permanent wage. If you take it, sick/carers leave is another 4%. Casual loading is usually 20%. Casuals often get no bonuses, no Christmas bonus, no redundancy pay if it comes up, no paid parental leave if it comes up. If you are in a workplace that pays above award, casuals often get lower 'above award component' and lower annual increase. I've been professionally calculating the variances for 35 years with full transparency into many businesses. I understand my perspective is a little unusual having always be able to see to the exact dollar people's varying remuneration. You would be correct if you are in a job that doesn't roster public holidays fairly and you don't use your sick leave, or an employer that expects unpaid overtime.

    • 87percent on 29/07/2024 - 17:18
      +38

      It’s not competing with KFC, if anything, it’s competing with Hungry Jacks

      • Tleyx on 29/07/2024 - 21:00
        +11

        Kfc cant even compete with red rooster

        • pegaxs on 29/07/2024 - 22:03
          +5

          I wish there was a Red Rooster here, I would never eat at KFC ever again.

          • neoleo on 30/07/2024 - 07:32
            -3

            @pegaxs: Can't believe there are people who don't like KFC :P Most people like crispy/crunchy, that's why KFC has become the global chicken restaurant chains.

            Maybe better buy KFC during lunch to get chicken with newer oil …

            • munecito on 30/07/2024 - 07:54
              +17

              @neoleo: Except than in Australia must KFC chicken comes oily and soggy and red rooster is actually crunchy.

              • neoleo on 30/07/2024 - 07:56
                -5

                @munecito: Red rooster is not fried chicken last time when I was in Melbourne years ago. I am in Sydney City now and Red Rooster is very far …

                • Archi on 30/07/2024 - 09:29
                  +6

                  @neoleo: red rooster have had fried chicken for at least 3 years here in sydney

              • websterp on 30/07/2024 - 09:05
                +4

                @munecito: Totally! Soggy, oily, mostly undercooked, sometimes even with blood clearly visible on the bone. I've tried many different KFC but it is always hit or mostly miss. Hot and spicy was good when it was available.

                I've recently discovered fried chicken @ EJs and it is exactly what KFC in Australia should have been. Their fried chicken is super crispy, juicy and well done and doesn't look like those pieces came off a Quail.

            • EightImmortals on 30/07/2024 - 08:13
              +1

              @neoleo: Can't believe there are people who still eat that stuff.

            • webmonkey on 30/07/2024 - 10:14
              +2

              @neoleo: Red rooster fried chicken shits on KFC. Large pieces, juicy and crunchy batter.

              KFC chicken have been shrinking over the years and are a soggy but tasty mess.

              • A-mak on 30/07/2024 - 13:56
                +1

                @webmonkey: The fried chicken at RR is very good, but the burgers are lacking. 2 small chicken strips that don't even cover the whole bun what were they thinkin?

            • umoddbro on 30/07/2024 - 14:58

              @neoleo: KFC oil makes me feel like crap after eating, if not for the deals I would never go to KFC.

          • EmployeeQuarter Pounder @ KFC Australia on 01/08/2024 - 13:37

            @pegaxs: sadly my local red rooster was replaced with a GYG. Prefer their chicken to KFC

          • Franc-T on 01/08/2024 - 17:55

            @pegaxs: I personally hate KFC, but quality varies tremendously store to store

        • ThithLord on 30/07/2024 - 08:41

          They're getting mugged by Dominos

        • Jac33au on 30/07/2024 - 08:54
          +1

          KFC isn't competing with Red Rooster they have more than double the restaurants. Red Rooster is competing with corner chicken shops. Also, if you're a home owner and want your property values to stay high, you don't want a red rooster near you. The Red Rooster line is a thing.

          I agree, Red Rooster is 100% better than KFC, can't dispute the number though.

          • Archi on 30/07/2024 - 09:32
            +5

            @Jac33au: i go to KFC solely for wicked wings… red rooster for pieces of fried chicken, and local charcoal chicken shop roast chicken and chips.

            i am one of those people that will make multiple stops to build my desired meal.

            • Jac33au on 30/07/2024 - 09:36
              +6

              @Archi: I also do this, but because my family hates simplicity.

          • kyle on 30/07/2024 - 10:14
            +2

            @Jac33au: The Red Rooster restaurants near me in Melbourne are always empty. Don't know how they can stay in business.

            • Jac33au on 30/07/2024 - 10:18

              @kyle: There's a whole meme around this. They're probably ASIO fronts or something

        • Kiro on 30/07/2024 - 11:40
          +5

          red rooster is a drug front for the cartel to launder money. come on, how many red roosters are there and how empty are they?

        • 2esc on 30/07/2024 - 18:04

          Red rooster must be better elsewhere as in Gippsland, Victoria im surprised its still operating.

        • infinite on 31/07/2024 - 23:24

          That's because Red Rooster appears to be a money laundering operation.

          There's basically no one in them ever. They just keep existing though.

          • EmployeeQuarter Pounder @ KFC Australia on 01/08/2024 - 14:49

            @infinite:

            There's basically no one in them ever. They just keep existing though.

            Red rooster Ermington at lunch time says otherwise

    • boomramada on 29/07/2024 - 19:02
      +16

      They are just expensive verson of Hungry Jacks.

      • infinite on 31/07/2024 - 23:26

        They are just what Hungry Jacks size and quality used to be 15-20 years ago.

        Their pricing is almost identical, if not just a little more expensive.

        CJ simply just can't compete with HJ's because they mostly operate in locations with minimal foot traffic.

    • GregRust on 29/07/2024 - 23:14
      +7

      Australian KFC is garbage.

      • neoleo on 30/07/2024 - 07:33
        +2

        Which KFC is better? KFC Japan?

        • Archi on 30/07/2024 - 09:36
          +5

          KFC in asia in generally better, but the alternatives are better also. like the Philippines have jollie bee

          for example MacDonald's in japan, even though the food takes longer but when you get the burger and unwrap it, it looks exactly like the picture, cant say i have ever experienced that in any western country.

          • SimAus007 on 30/07/2024 - 09:57
            -1

            @Archi: It never looks exactly like the picture, the reason, it has been wrapped in paper or put in a box, in a hurry, so it's physically impossible.
            This clearly doesn't happen for marketing pictures made to make one side of the burger display all the ingredients and carefully placed on a plate. It's not just about the mixture of the ingredients.

            • Archi on 30/07/2024 - 10:02
              +3

              @SimAus007: difference of japan and everywhere else, they just take care. knowing they take care on how it looks will result in the care of the preparing of ingredients, care in cooking, and care of what the customer thinks, therefore affect the taste.

              • SimAus007 on 30/07/2024 - 10:03

                @Archi: I've had many burgers in Japan and other places overseas, I've not once seen it look close to the marketing picture, but yes, I prefer the burgers in Japan, that's just a personal preference :)
                "Everywhere else"? McDonalds, KFC and Taco Bell in the USA make Maccas, KFC and Taco Bell here feel upmarket (for fast food). Dirty, filthy stores, rude staff and the ingredients are questionable in quality.

              • Flying Ace on 30/07/2024 - 20:50

                @Archi: I believe Japan has laws that require the food in marketing images must resemble the actual product.

              • greatlamp on 30/07/2024 - 22:37
                +1

                @Archi: In Japan McDonald's the manager is on the floor wearing the McDonald's vest and greeting customers. There are staff at every station, and someone walks the floor cleaning tables every 5-10 minutes.

                In Australia the manager is watching YouTube in the office while one teenager makes coffee and mans the cash register at the same time. The tables are cleaned when they are so dirty it can be seen from the kitchen.

          • Pinchy on 30/07/2024 - 14:13
            +1

            @Archi: KFC in Indonesia is average. Everyone gets their fried chicken from maccas over there.

            Australian KFC is usually considered better than most countries from what I’ve seen.

          • rumblytangara on 31/07/2024 - 14:22

            @Archi:

            KFC in asia in generally better, but the alternatives are better also. like the Philippines have jollie bee

            "Asia" might be pushing it. Japan, sure, because they are incredible food fanatics.

            KFC in Hong Kong is probably even nastier and greasier than the stuff in Oz.

            Tried Jolibee once. Never again.

            • Archi on 31/07/2024 - 14:25

              @rumblytangara: KFC in Vietnam is pretty good, when i was there last time a few years ago. also KFC taiwan.

              agree with HK, and Thailand is pretty S**t too same with Maccas there

          • infinite on 31/07/2024 - 23:29

            @Archi: It wasn't always the same, but now Macca's in Japan is the exact same as it is here in terms of tiny in size, tasteless, overly expensive and buns are the same aerated garbage.

            The only difference is they have better toys for the kids meals & additional condiments.

            • SimAus007 on 01/08/2024 - 10:30

              @infinite: Overly expensive?
              The current regular (medium) Big Mac Meal, for example, converts to AUD $6.50 in Japan, source: https://www.mcdonalds.co.jp/products/800043/

              • infinite on 01/08/2024 - 20:11

                @SimAus007: The current regular (medium) Big Mac Meal, for example, converts to AUD $6.50 in Japan, source: https://www.mcdonalds.co.jp/products/800043/

                The average income in Japan is about half of what it is in Australia. That means in a real world comparison they pay the equivalent of $13 for a small to medium sized burger. So exactly as I states, it's overly expensive garbage. Especially considering in Japan you can get bigger better burgers at burger places considered multiple tiers above Maccas in quality, for less cost than any Maccas burger.

                • SimAus007 on 02/08/2024 - 10:00

                  @infinite: Sorry, I assumed you meant expensive for us, people living in Australia visiting as a tourist, which makes it cheaper for us than McDonalds here, not people living and earning income in Japan, which doesn't directly concern us.
                  But fair point, that's not great for them, although as you say there are better and cheaper options so perhaps it is a good thing instead of eating Maccas junk (would inadvertently act as a "junk food tax").

        • ColonelSanders on 30/07/2024 - 11:18

          KFC Poland was epic.

      • Wezzer on 30/07/2024 - 07:39
        +5

        It's fine dining compared to USA/Canada KFC

      • boomramada on 30/07/2024 - 08:20
        +3

        Indonesian/Bali Maccas is better than Australian KFC! There hot and spicy chicken! damn! Take my money through Grab!

      • belongsinforums on 30/07/2024 - 19:19
        -3

        We have fresh chicken though unlike overseas

    • Breno785au on 30/07/2024 - 00:45

      They're competing with Taco Bill's, not KFC.

    • EitherWayUp on 30/07/2024 - 09:37
      +3

      KFC has long gone to shit.. quality has severely downgraded over the years.

  • KaTst3R on 29/07/2024 - 16:51
    +7

    Sorry to hear that. I love Carl's Jr, if only they have stores in the inner Sydney area.

    • apsilon on 29/07/2024 - 17:59
      +5

      Wasn't there one store in Sydney and that was Wetherill Park or something? Not sure how they picked that as their one and only Sydney store. For me that'd be a 30min drive each way to buy a burger that's the same quality as HJ (and that's not a tick in the pro column) but more expensive. Not surprising the business model has failed.

      • Ghost47 on 29/07/2024 - 19:08
        +2

        Yeah there was one in Wetherill Park.

        I just looked at the stores showing up in NSW and VIC and they basically have no stores close to Sydney or Melbourne CBDs now. NSW has one in Bringelly (wherever that is) but the rest are more regional and the VIC stores are pretty much all in the outer suburbs. Pain in the butt for anyone who wants to have Carl's Jr. now. Rent is probably cheaper though. It all goes back to property.

        • CurlCurl on 29/07/2024 - 20:15
          +3

          NSW has one in Bringelly (wherever that is)

          That's 5 minutes from the new Western Sydney Airport when it opens in 2026.

          • Ghost47 on 29/07/2024 - 20:16
            -1

            @CurlCurl: Such a far way for Sydneysiders to go to get some Carl's Jr. They should've kept the Wetherill Park store open.

          • Kill Joy on 31/07/2024 - 09:37

            @CurlCurl: Is currently 90% rural while developers are still snapping up land, so it was a long play to put that store there.

        • Franc-T on 01/08/2024 - 17:55

          Yah the new one in epping is closed, and there is a starbucks sign on it, didnt even realise till today as I went past

    • kaleidoscope on 29/07/2024 - 21:54

      Hayyaaa…
      Sorry to hear man. I really liked the big carl over anything that maccas could offer :-/

    • SimAus007 on 30/07/2024 - 10:09

      Yeah, their stores were never located well. Melb CBD didn't have a store, unless you want to count Docklands as the CBD, but that was a PITA to get to for most people and dead quite all day.

  • mapax on 29/07/2024 - 16:52
    +1

    Which 20 restaurants?

    • Bazzywazzy on 29/07/2024 - 16:54
      +3

      sorry bro i got no clue, you can check carls jr map and if it says closed then probs that one, mine says temporarily closed

      • mapax on 29/07/2024 - 18:48
        +6

        Damn bro, the store I like is missing. Hope you can find another job soon.

  • mboy on 29/07/2024 - 16:52
    +2

    All my nearest restaurants have been marked as 'Temporally Closed' on Google - not sure if that's accurate. What a shame though, I enjoyed the occasional sneaky CJ's.
    OP any thoughts what prompted it?

    • neoleo on 29/07/2024 - 16:55
      +3

      I guess high inflation, high cost, higher lease, less sales?

    • Bazzywazzy on 29/07/2024 - 16:55
      +2

      either losing money or not enough profit to sustain it

      • Ghost47 on 29/07/2024 - 19:14
        +4

        Was your store busy? Any chance you could call another store and ask for a job?

        I didn't visit Carl's Jr. often but when I did the stores weren't exactly busy like Macca's usually is. I have a feeling they just weren't making enough money. You'd be paying $4 to $5 more than HJ's for some fresher ingredients and things that HJ's didn't have (e.g. waffle fries) but in the end most people would probably opt for HJ's to save money. The ones that are left open in Melbourne are all in the outer suburbs which leads me to think they were kept open because of cheaper rents.

        Wonder if Taco Bell is going to go the same way, although I've never visited their stores they seem to be dead all the time. Guess Red Rooster was lucky to start renovating their stores in the mid 2010s when rates were still low.

  • coffeeinmyveins on 29/07/2024 - 16:58
    +2

    We had carls jr?

    Honestly america has so many burger joints it amazes me. And they're all pretty rubbish.

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