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MINI Cooper Electric from $49,990 Drive Away @ MINI Dealers

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MINI Cooper Electric from $49,990 Drive Away @ MINI Dealers
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E5TOQUE on 03/11/2023 - 07:15 mini.com.au (8839 clicks)
Last edited 03/11/2023 - 15:13 by 1 other user

Mini Australia has reduced the price of the Mini Cooper Electric by ~$20,000 down to $49,990 drive away until the end of the year, or until stocks last.

Power: 135kW / 290Nm
Range: 233KM
0-80% Charge: 36mins

Important things to note:

  1. Next-Gen Mini Cooper Electric arrives next year. It will be made in China by Great Wall Motors. See more info here: https://www.drive.com.au/news/2024-mini-cooper-electric-hatc…

  2. There are other Chinese made EV’s around the same (or less money) that will offer more range/value for money:

  • Tesla Model 3 RWD (if you want a sedan, and are happy getting the current pre-facelift model)
  • MG 4
  • BYD Dolphin
  • BYD Atto 3 (if you want a compact SUV)
  • BYD Seal (if you want a sedan)
  • GWM Ora

But for the people that love the Mini style, want a European brand and live inner city, this could be ideal.

Terms & Conditions

  1. Drive away price based on a new, base model featured vehicle and excludes: (a) the cost of any options; and (b) the effect of any discount, rebate or promotion.

  2. Drive away price is recommended by MINI Australia, but individual dealers may charge a different dealer delivery fee – which may be higher or lower.

Prices shown are the manufacturer’s recommended prices and include applicable GST. Above amounts do not include any manufacturer rebates, incentive payments or alike which may affect tax and duty amounts calculated. The Recommended Drive Away Price includes 12 months’ registration and compulsory third party insurance (CTP) and is based on a private owner aged 40 with a good driving record and the vehicle being garaged in the postcode entered.

This is a manufacturer's publication, and new vehicles must be purchased from authorised MINI dealers. The actual drive away price may vary according to different states in Australia and individual circumstances (including, in NSW and QLD, the choice of insurer) and may vary from dealer to dealer. Financing, leasing, hiring or credit costs associated with the purchase of the vehicle are not included. Please consult your MINI dealer to confirm the price that is specific to you.

All information is current as at the date of publication and assumes that delivery of the vehicle occurs at the dealer's premises. Some information used in this price calculator is sourced from third parties. BMW Group Australia has taken all reasonable efforts to ensure that the pricing information is accurate, but does not guarantee its accuracy.

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  • conza on 03/11/2023 - 07:18
    +2

    EDIT: Got the prices wrong, never mind… It's $20k cheaper than a Model 3 drive away, so maybe… Not a dedicated Electric platform though so keep that in mind…

    • camMMM on 03/11/2023 - 07:20
      +49

      Yeah with that range of 233km - it's strictly a city car and for 50k… It'd be a hard sell. People would only be buying this for the name.

      • serpserpserp on 03/11/2023 - 07:52
        +5

        The car itself is pretty cool looking on the outside and in. But yeah, the range is has to be nearly worst in class even at the 50k range.

      • bargaino on 03/11/2023 - 09:11
        -2

        The name is all it has in common, and why? The original mini was tiny, slow and dangerous. 0–60 mph in 27 seconds.
        The only good thing about it was the price: £350 plus tax. Equivalent to £10k or $20,000 today.

        This car is three times the weight.

        • chrism238 on 03/11/2023 - 09:54
          +3

          The original mini was tiny, slow and dangerous. 0–60 mph in 27 seconds.

          Things evolve: https://www.shannons.com.au/club/news/racing-garage/1966-bat…

        • Sleuth on 03/11/2023 - 10:05

          Still good fun to drive in Dirt Rally 2.0

          • bargaino on 03/11/2023 - 10:25
            +4

            @Sleuth: It helps when a few blokes can lift the car up and carry it out of the mud. No winch needed :-)

            • Sleuth on 03/11/2023 - 10:42

              @bargaino: Probably more mud than car at some points.

        • MasterScythe on 03/11/2023 - 12:01
          +1

          The original isn't what people are inspired by; It's the 60's era, with a stable wheelbase which is (almost) bigger than the car itself :p

        • Tiggrrrrr on 03/11/2023 - 12:38
          +1

          I'd say the appeal was the fact the Mini Cooper won the Monte Carlo Rally four times straight in the mid-1960s, and would have one again in 1966, but the French made up an infraction so that Citroen could win. Also, the Mini Cooper did 0-100km/h in under 11 seconds.

        • Franc-T on 04/11/2023 - 01:46
          +1

          The original mini was hella fun to drive though as it felt fast even when it wasnt.

          (profanity) cramped as though. urgh.

      • sovereign01 on 03/11/2023 - 11:12
        +7

        Strange how many buy their cars for how they read on a spec sheet and not for how they drive. Apparently these Minis are quite a fun car to drive and much more engaging than the competitors mentioned throughout this thread.

        Obviously thats a hard sell against the high cost and poor range, but it certainly means name isn't the only reason someone would buy one of these.

      • datscheap on 03/11/2023 - 11:18
        +4

        EVs like this suck for general ev reputation.
        They are already so many anti-ev people using every bit of info (real or fake) to run them down. A $50k ev that is slow and only 233km range in 2023 is bs.

        • ssfps on 03/11/2023 - 13:39
          -1

          Good to see you put the tribe before the information. That's the correct way to approach such discourse.

          • datscheap on 03/11/2023 - 18:19
            +5

            @ssfps: I'm not sure what that comment means?

            Ive had my Byd for a year now and the repayments are $157 week but I'm saving over $130w in petrol compared with the previous Mazda 3.
            Probably one of the better financial decisions I've made.
            (Yes I've got solar)

            • Scrobo on 04/11/2023 - 01:17
              +1

              @datscheap: Damn, how do you burn $130 per week driving a Mazda 3?

              • datscheap on 04/11/2023 - 08:54

                @Scrobo: I live out of town. Work in town and running teenagers around everywhere.

            • ssfps on 04/11/2023 - 03:44
              -3

              @datscheap:

              I'm not sure what that comment means?

              Your comment betrays a tribalism about "EV vs anti EV" people, despite acknowledging that some of those "anti-ev people" use "real" info.

              $130w

              ~$130 / $2 per L = 65L
              ~65L / ~8L per 100km = >800 k's per week
              So you're doing 800-1000 k's a week (depending on driving conditions) yet your car is parked at home in the middle of the day to recharge with your solar panels???
              Doesn't add up.

              • datscheap on 04/11/2023 - 09:20
                +2

                @ssfps: My kms are a prob a little less then that (it's a 18yr old Mazda)but yes, a year ago I was spending that much on fuel.
                The car charges at night, I get solar offset during the day. We still have the Mazda 3 but use the byd alot more as it's almost free to drive and more fun.

                Over 80% of petrol in Australia is imported from Asia and the middle east. While we use ICE cars we keep supporting their economies.

              • Tiggrrrrr on 06/11/2023 - 14:33
                +2

                @ssfps: I agree with datscheap regarding the specs of this car making EVs in general look bad.
                People will use it as a benchmark, given that petrol Minis have decent range (up to 800km) and can get sub 5litres/100km on highway driving.

                I mean look at the Mercedes electric sedan, the performance specs are thoroughly underwhelming. It's almost like they want people to not buy EVs.

                And no, I'm not an EV person, but nor am I an ICE person. I just drive no more than 100km a week, on a bad week. So still waiting for the cost benefit of an EV to kick in for my use case.

    • BlasterBoy on 03/11/2023 - 07:20
      +11

      Yeah, but then you have to post daily on Twitter about how good your car is and that the build quality isn't that bad and how much you love Elon and stonks and such.

      • conza on 03/11/2023 - 07:22
        +6

        Without doing research again, which I mean everyone should, if I had to buy an electric car, at the moment it would be a model 3, despite, Elon, not because of him. It's the best product, afaik, for just 'electric car'.

        • BlasterBoy on 03/11/2023 - 07:47
          +14

          Before I bought my current car 4 years ago, which I am now due to replace, I said it would be my last ICE car, but the options that are around are limited and no appealing to me (I want light weight sporty, not SUV) and the charging infrastructure is still pretty woeful.
          I looked at the 3, And I just couldn't live with it. The lack of physical buttons would drive me insane, I already hate the touch screen in my current car and it's limited what is needed to do on it.

          I liked the look of the Polstar, but it has its own issues, and I don't like the jacked up look of it.

          The Mini is nice, the build quality would be there, the range is pretty crappy, but for an around town city car its probably more than enough.

          • Carrera1963 on 03/11/2023 - 07:49
            +6

            @BlasterBoy: Cupra Born?

            • BlasterBoy on 03/11/2023 - 08:01
              +2

              @Carrera1963: I do like the Born, the Cupra's are pretty cars. I quite like the Formenta. Problem with VW group cars is all the performance models use the same EA888 engine (i have a Golf R), I test drove a bunch of different models from VW and Skoda and they all just felt the same.
              I miss with VW did interesting engines :(

          • E5TOQUE on 03/11/2023 - 07:56
            +10

            @BlasterBoy: MG 4 and CUPRA Born are something you should look at then.

            • Both are RWD
            • Both have decent power
            • Both have decent equipment levels
            • Both have decent warranty

            MG 4 X-Power just arrived in Australia too at $59,990.

            • AWD
            • 0-100 in 3.8seconds
            • 320kW / 600Nm
          • eraser215 on 03/11/2023 - 07:57
            +3

            @BlasterBoy: Ioniq 5?

            • BlasterBoy on 03/11/2023 - 08:04
              +1

              @eraser215: @eraser215 Too SUV for me, I do like the EV6 GT, but it's a little too $$$ :(

            • E5TOQUE on 03/11/2023 - 08:16
              +1

              @eraser215: Under equipped for the money you spend.
              Love the looks though.

          • conza on 03/11/2023 - 08:00
            +6

            @BlasterBoy: I'm impressed that people downvoted me for saying you should do research X'D. Well done everyone, well done.
            Look it probably is more than enough, but it is based on an ICE platform, and I'm not really a fan of BMW moving over to 'TGW' for manufacturing their electric Minis, I would probably start looking at the Leaf and a few others.
            I also just like Volvos so, they'd be high up for consideration, for me, but I get what you're saying. You may want to get 1 more ICE car if you can't find what you're after…

            • BlasterBoy on 03/11/2023 - 08:02
              +1

              @conza: @conza Yeah I am going to keep my Golf R for another few years, See what comes out in the future, I am in no rush to change formats. It's still very early days and the tech is changing rapidly.

              • E5TOQUE on 03/11/2023 - 08:18
                +1

                @BlasterBoy: MG 4 X-Power is the logical replacement for the Golf R at the moment.

                • $59,990
                • 0-100 in 3.8
                • AWD
                • 320kW / 600Nm

                People are saying the lower powered MG 4 and CUPRA Born are hot hatch fun to drive too. RWD on those.

                • Wiadro on 03/11/2023 - 08:35
                  +2

                  @E5TOQUE: which part of your brain thinks an MG is a logical replacement of a Golf R? lol

                  • E5TOQUE on 03/11/2023 - 08:42
                    +20

                    @Wiadro: Golf R is AWD
                    MG 4 X-Power is AWD

                    Golf R is a hatch back
                    MG4 X-Power is a hatch back

                    Golf R is a performance hot hatch
                    MG4 X-Power a performance hot hatch

                    Golf R has high power outputs
                    MG4 X-Power has high power outputs

                    Golf R and MG4 are similar sizes

                    The area where they differ is:

                    • MG4 has way faster 0-100 time
                    • MG4 has longer warranty
                    • MG4 is electric
                    • Golf R likely has better overall dynamics (as it’s lighter) - but it’s debatable if you would ever be able to take advantage of that on public roads. On a track however, I suspect the Golf R would smash the MG 4.
                    • Golf R has a nicer interior (assuming it’s the MK 7 or 7.5) the MK8’s interior is a step down and close to MG4.
                    • Golf R is European, MG 4 is Chinese. Some people get hung up on that.
                  • drprox on 03/11/2023 - 08:42
                    +6

                    @Wiadro: The part that fixates on 0-100 lol

                • Ramrunner on 03/11/2023 - 08:55
                  +5

                  @E5TOQUE: The difference is though that the Golf R handles really well. Reviewers are saying the MG4 X-Power is not great. Until the weight of batteries come down I think that will be a problem for many EV hot hatches.

                  Awesome in a straight line though.

              • Poor Ass on 03/11/2023 - 08:54
                +5

                @BlasterBoy: Is it true owners of R it's complosury to smoke the person next to you everytime at a red light?

                I see it too often just want to confirm?

                • Anvariel on 03/11/2023 - 09:02
                  +11

                  @Poor Ass: R owner, can confirm.

                • Ham Dragon on 03/11/2023 - 11:13
                  +2

                  @Poor Ass: I love approaching the lights on my roadbike & seeing a couple of clowns with penile insecurity complexes revving at each other (some sort of foreplay I assume) then leaving both of them in the mirrors when it goes green.

                  • Binchicken22 on 03/11/2023 - 13:05
                    +6

                    @Ham Dragon: Sounds like you are the only one who cares mate lol.

                    • Ham Dragon on 03/11/2023 - 14:15
                      -3

                      @Binchicken22: Hatchback driving phallic insecurity detected.

                      • Binchicken22 on 03/11/2023 - 18:21

                        @Ham Dragon: Couldn't give less of a f* mate.

                        Coming from someone with an unrestricted bike licence as well… No one cares about a burn off from the lights.

                • MasterScythe on 03/11/2023 - 12:12

                  @Poor Ass: With how strictly (stupidly?) they enforce speed limits now; even during sensible overtaking manouvres, 'getting in front at the lights' is about the only way to ensure you're not stuck behind someone with less driver training.

                  I refuse to break the speed limit on public roads, yet there are countless times when getting away from a bad situation is the safest solution.

            • FredAstair on 03/11/2023 - 08:54
              +2

              @conza: yes i agree.
              some ozbargainers here downvote any opinion that differs from theirs. Even if their opinion is rubbish.

          • solidussnake on 03/11/2023 - 08:06
            +1

            @BlasterBoy: Blade seal coming out looks good still has the physical buttons etc

            • E5TOQUE on 03/11/2023 - 08:22
              +3

              @solidussnake: This too.
              The BYD Seal seems like it’s great value for what you get.

              BYD’s only use their Blade batteries. As they are using the LFP chemistry they can be charged up to 100% over and over again with little impact on the life of the battery.

              No cobalt or nickel in those packs too.

              • VerticallyIntegrated on 03/11/2023 - 11:52
                +1

                @E5TOQUE: I refuse to drive a car that is called Seal, Dolphin, Seahorse, Starfish or the 4 seat Groper.

                • Tiggrrrrr on 03/11/2023 - 12:54
                  +7

                  @VerticallyIntegrated: Initially I was on the fence over purchasing an EV, but now you inform me there is one called 4 seat Groper, I'm sold!

                  • Poor Ass on 03/11/2023 - 13:06

                    @Tiggrrrrr: I will also buy 2

                  • VerticallyIntegrated on 03/11/2023 - 22:07
                    +1

                    @Tiggrrrrr: That was my nickname at my previous employer. My counter-claim for unlawful dismissal is still pending.

                    Will keep everyone on OzB posted.

                • E5TOQUE on 03/11/2023 - 14:41
                  +2

                  @VerticallyIntegrated: It's odd that a product name or attached brand has such influence on your buying decision.
                  Look at the thing objectively and don't get caught up in marketing names that have zero impact on anything.

      • kalt19 on 06/11/2023 - 09:43
        +1

        Some people enjoy reading about how happy others are with a purchase. I don't use Twitter (from even before Elon took over). There will always be a transition period where value for money is highly subjective in a change as significant as the move from ICE to Electric/other, and early adopters will be the ones compromising and therefore justifying their compromise but, without them there will be no change.

        They drive a BYD not a Tesla and are pretty clearly financially minded if they keep an 18 year old car on the road (wow). We gave our 11 year old Subaru XV to our son and will have to face that decision at some point.

        We got a BYD Atto or my wife (nowhere near the kms per week though) and are enjoying similar benefits (solar offset as well). We also take the BYD now in preference over mine, even though mine is arguably more comfortable (Subaru Outback).

        My next car will be electric, when I can bring myself to move away from Subarus…

        The BYD Seal looks great and compares well with competitors but, I will struggle to move away from Wagons/SUVs also.

        • Tiggrrrrr on 06/11/2023 - 14:14

          Why do you need to move away from Subaru?

          • kalt19 on 07/11/2023 - 15:35

            @Tiggrrrrr: Only because I can't find a car in their range that suits me anymore. I want a full electric at a reasonable price, without too many compromises and preferably some boot space. BYD and Tesla seem to have that now, along with a few other brands as I am discovering.

            The Soltera is not here yet (is it?) and if it is anything like the XV it seems to be based from (we have one), it will be under-powered for the weight (even though they are still fun to drive and very versatile) although, and I know that is not usually the issue with electric cars.

            Not to mention price.

            Love to hear other perspectives.

            • Tiggrrrrr on 07/11/2023 - 21:23

              @kalt19: Oh, I didn't realise you meant you wanted a car right away.

              No the Soltera is not here yet (expected to deliver orders March next year) but at least they have announced a price point (the cheapest model, the Solterra AWD, will be priced from $77,990 plus on-road costs. The better-equipped flagship variant – the Solterra AWD Touring – will be available from $83,690 plus on-road costs.)

    • ialam99 on 03/11/2023 - 14:49
      +4

      Rather then calling it "$20k cheaper then model 3", maybe a better description is that its $10k more expensive then the BYD dolphin or MG4 with a lower range then those cars.

  • duodeta on 03/11/2023 - 07:22
    +3

    233km hmmmmmm. I may choose a chinese brand for EV just bcos of their battery technology

      • dangerdanger on 03/11/2023 - 07:51
        +31

        Yeah like I don't trust Chinese mobile phones (while I type on my Chinese made iPhone and tap away on my Chinese made laptop) 🙄

        Better go buy my Chinese built powerbank now.

        • Skullytor on 03/11/2023 - 15:12
          +4

          That's different - made in china can be different to made by china.

          Western companies are known for quality control over their chinese factories. I also would do a lot of research before trusting a produced owned, designed and made by china.

        • Zaddo on 03/11/2023 - 19:07
          +1

          How often do you replace those items ;-)

          If I buy Chinese, I expect to replace that product within 3-4 years max.

          If buy a Bosch (Made in Germany Model), I will still be using that product in 10 years.

          How many 10 year old Chinese made mechanical products do you have in your house that are still working?

          • Poor Ass on 04/11/2023 - 00:07
            +1

            @Zaddo: I'll probably buy Chinese too if replacing 3-4 times is cheaper than one German made one

            Note that I have also bought German made appliances and they have broke in less than 10 years so it's not always superior

            But then if money isn't an issue just buy the most expensive thing that is suitable to you

            • Fatfat on 04/11/2023 - 02:08
              +1

              @Poor Ass: My golf is made in German. But it sucks… Two time send back to workshop because gear problems. And oil leaking, I have to refill occasionally! Some of product made in German may good, but not all of them.

          • z28 on 04/11/2023 - 22:21
            +2

            @Zaddo:

            How many 10 year old Chinese made mechanical products do you have in your house that are still working?

            I am one of the early solar adopter when WA gov was giving out rebate. My 1.5 kW Aerosharp inverter (the boat anchor) lasts and lasts and lasts for more than 10 years. I replaced it with Huawei 5 years ago and the new one is still running. The Aerosharp and its solar panels were given away to a guy in the farm. Last I heard they are still chugging along.

            I have to replace my German Bosch washing machine every few years. Their dishwasher and oven are pretty good though.

      • freefall101 on 03/11/2023 - 08:03
        +3

        They’re basically a battery on wheels and most of those are coming out of China now anyway.

      • Caped Baldy on 03/11/2023 - 08:24
        +24

        Better buy one of those Australian made cars…

      • E5TOQUE on 03/11/2023 - 08:35
        +28

        China (and Tesla) are 10+ years ahead of everyone else in the EV space.

        If I was going to buy an EV, I would in fact want it to be made in China using their battery tech and know how.

        • There is a reason why Tesla setup shop in Shanghai.
        • There is a reason why BMW’s EV’s come out of China.
        • There is a reason why the next-gen Mini Cooper Electric is coming out of China and using a GWM EV platform for global markets
        • There is a reason VW Group have invested in Chinese EV brand X-Peng
        • There is a reason VW Group / CUPRA are getting their next gen EV’s made in China for global markets

        The list goes on.
        Credit where it’s due - The Chinese have spent the last 10+ years getting their EV know how to such a level that they are now the world leaders.

        • JuryWheel on 03/11/2023 - 08:58
          +15

          Cheap labour could probably account for many of your statements…..? I wonder when Thailand will jump on the EV train - so many Toyotas (and other brands) shifted to Thai manufacturing and seem pretty happy with the quality

          • E5TOQUE on 03/11/2023 - 09:00
            +12

            @JuryWheel: Cheap labour definitely plays into that too.

            But you can’t disregard the fact that they have invested the time and money into developing the tech and know how over the last 10+ years and they have a huge lead over other countries.

            Their LFP battery tech is an example.

            • able to be charged to 100% over and over with little degradation
            • cheaper to make
            • No nickle
            • No cobalt
            • JuryWheel on 03/11/2023 - 09:24

              @E5TOQUE: sure, they seem to have the best battery tech. I would imagine though that many manufacturers would just buy that and assemble the car in Japan/Germany etc….

            • taisk on 03/11/2023 - 11:18

              @E5TOQUE: This is very true. I remember one of my trips to China circa 2006, I was amazed to see the number of electric cars, motorbikes and bicycles on the streets. The cars weren't fancy or luxury EVs. They were mass produced tiny and ugly cars so they were just a functional transportation tool. This was a time way before main stream car makers started taking electrification seriously. The Chinese definitely are leader in this tech.

            • elease on 03/11/2023 - 16:37

              @E5TOQUE: Why no and co have such bad rep?

              Used to work at a ni/co plant very early in my career.

          • Needles on 03/11/2023 - 09:36

            @JuryWheel: EQ in Thai worries me in general. They might start building EV when China shifts to next level

          • GeneralKeen on 03/11/2023 - 11:43

            @JuryWheel: TH production cars are catering the neighboring countries with lower purchasing power, I'm not saying they are not as good as the Japanese but they have their own models too for the SEA markets.

        • ruprectaus on 03/11/2023 - 22:10

          Government subsidies being the main reason and the ability to scale production being another.

          that's not to crap on their products, they seem to be doing an awesome job but their Government subsidies are incredible.

      • Poor Ass on 03/11/2023 - 08:58
        +3

        They are all Chinese pretty much

        You can't have an EV without it being partial from China

        E.g. they control 70% of linthium production of the world

        Even ICE cars has Chinese parts

      • BargainMe on 03/11/2023 - 10:17

        The next gen Mini EV is going to be built by GWM

        • OzViper on 03/11/2023 - 17:09

          and it looks crap..

    • gofree on 04/11/2023 - 01:19
      +1

      233km is max range, if you're driving like normal people within 20-80% battery charge range then that's only 139km! Couldn't do a round-trip (~180km) to see the parents without some major range anxiety. To be honest, wouldn't even try it. With some freeway driving and hills, you'd be lucky to get a 100km. No wonder it's majorly discounted.

  • [Deactivated] on 03/11/2023 - 07:23

    Power: 135kW / 290Nm something wrong in this equation that's probably why $20K price drop which is another gimmick. Obviously, it does not sell at all. Gees.

  • panderiz on 03/11/2023 - 07:23
    +15

    Maximum range is 233km, that's likely 200km real world and at 110km it'd be about 160km :-)

    Model 3s inventory are currently 59k driveaway right now, sorry but not even Elon haters should buy the mini?

    Grab a BYD Seal for 53k at worst or an MG EV4.

    • PainToad on 03/11/2023 - 07:32
      -4

      Grab a BYD

      🤮

      • panderiz on 03/11/2023 - 09:14
        +2

        Honestly the BYD Seal doesn’t appear a bad optio on paper but an inventory model 3 right now is light and day a better option

      • kenan3cn on 03/11/2023 - 16:00

        get a holden

    • kml22 on 03/11/2023 - 07:53
      +4

      Agreed. Real world range is going to be par 200km in the city, probably 160km highway.
      Pathetic, also don't get British or European car, they're expensive and unreliable.

      • Poor Ass on 03/11/2023 - 08:59
        +1

        But but but MG was British hahahaha

        • Donpisang11 on 03/11/2023 - 10:51
          +3

          Ha ha.. just the name is British, everything else in MG is Chinese.

      • Tiggrrrrr on 03/11/2023 - 13:51
        +1

        "don't get British or European car, they're expensive and unreliable"

        Lol.

      • dangerdanger on 04/11/2023 - 23:27

        I agree. My worst car was a Landrover Discovery. Terrible car, terrible service from the dealer and service centre, terrible service from head office

    • Lord Fart Bucket on 03/11/2023 - 09:22
      +2

      But you look cool stranded at the side of road.

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