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MINI Cooper Electric from $49,990 Drive Away @ MINI Dealers

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MINI Cooper Electric from $49,990 Drive Away @ MINI Dealers
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E5TOQUE on 03/11/2023 - 07:15 mini.com.au (8840 clicks)
Last edited 03/11/2023 - 15:13 by 1 other user

Mini Australia has reduced the price of the Mini Cooper Electric by ~$20,000 down to $49,990 drive away until the end of the year, or until stocks last.

Power: 135kW / 290Nm
Range: 233KM
0-80% Charge: 36mins

Important things to note:

  1. Next-Gen Mini Cooper Electric arrives next year. It will be made in China by Great Wall Motors. See more info here: https://www.drive.com.au/news/2024-mini-cooper-electric-hatc…

  2. There are other Chinese made EV’s around the same (or less money) that will offer more range/value for money:

  • Tesla Model 3 RWD (if you want a sedan, and are happy getting the current pre-facelift model)
  • MG 4
  • BYD Dolphin
  • BYD Atto 3 (if you want a compact SUV)
  • BYD Seal (if you want a sedan)
  • GWM Ora

But for the people that love the Mini style, want a European brand and live inner city, this could be ideal.

Terms & Conditions

  1. Drive away price based on a new, base model featured vehicle and excludes: (a) the cost of any options; and (b) the effect of any discount, rebate or promotion.

  2. Drive away price is recommended by MINI Australia, but individual dealers may charge a different dealer delivery fee – which may be higher or lower.

Prices shown are the manufacturer’s recommended prices and include applicable GST. Above amounts do not include any manufacturer rebates, incentive payments or alike which may affect tax and duty amounts calculated. The Recommended Drive Away Price includes 12 months’ registration and compulsory third party insurance (CTP) and is based on a private owner aged 40 with a good driving record and the vehicle being garaged in the postcode entered.

This is a manufacturer's publication, and new vehicles must be purchased from authorised MINI dealers. The actual drive away price may vary according to different states in Australia and individual circumstances (including, in NSW and QLD, the choice of insurer) and may vary from dealer to dealer. Financing, leasing, hiring or credit costs associated with the purchase of the vehicle are not included. Please consult your MINI dealer to confirm the price that is specific to you.

All information is current as at the date of publication and assumes that delivery of the vehicle occurs at the dealer's premises. Some information used in this price calculator is sourced from third parties. BMW Group Australia has taken all reasonable efforts to ensure that the pricing information is accurate, but does not guarantee its accuracy.

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  • MS Paint on 03/11/2023 - 07:28
    +33

    There is a metric shit tonne of these second hand on carsales.

    Owners have discovered they are useless and an overpriced gimmick.

      • vidiot on 03/11/2023 - 08:26
        +3

        Hahahaha Cory Bernardi is still finding a box to stand on and someone is listening!

        But seriously. Don’t.

      • sheikyerbouti on 03/11/2023 - 08:26
        +17

        You seriously put an opinion piece by Cory Bernadi as your justification? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

        I can't believe that all these giant car companies are investing in a move to EVs, why don't they listen to Cory? It's not like industry understands where they need to go. They're dropping hundred sof millions of dollars on something that Cory thinks is a scam. Cory knows more than they do! Wake up Sheeple!

        • EightImmortals on 03/11/2023 - 08:35
          +3

          My justification for what?
          And can you let me know which of the claims he made were untrue?

          • ihfree on 03/11/2023 - 08:51
            +5

            @EightImmortals: The onus is on you - which of Cory's claims are true?

            Also, it's a paywalled article - I assume you're a subscriber. There isn't much substance before the paywall.

            • EightImmortals on 03/11/2023 - 09:09
              +10

              @ihfree: Not I'm not a paying subscriber. Are you saying people got on the bandwagon without even being able to read the article?

              Here are his claims:

              "Volkswagon, fresh from their diesel emissions efficiency global lie have said orders for EVs are down 50%."

              True: https://electrek.co/2023/10/26/volkswagen-ev-orders-down-50-…

              "Ford announced they are losing USD 36K on every EV they sell with a full year loss of $4.5 billion."

              True: https://www.drive.com.au/news/ford-losing-36k-on-every-elect…

              "Panasonic battery manufacturing is down by 60 per cent."

              True: https://www.electrive.com/2023/10/31/panasonics-battery-divi…

              But I guess if you don't like someone politics then nothing they say can be true?

              • niknikniknik on 03/11/2023 - 10:07
                -2

                @EightImmortals: Agree. Battery EVs are a transition solution away from ICEs, and longer term the world will have to move to something else - hydrogen maybe, idk. Batteries are just so filthy to produce and dispose. People who drive battery EVs with the sole intention of being 'green' are unfortunately misinformed.

              • ihfree on 03/11/2023 - 10:13
                +3

                @EightImmortals: Typical Cory. Cherrypicking to back his "opinion." I skim-read your sources and I don't think they back your/Cory's opinion.

                1. VW

                • "other automakers, including Hyundai and Volvo, are sticking to their targets"
                • "Volkswagen said they began to pick up in the third quarter as new models hit the market."

                2. "Ford"

                Like the previous article, there isn't enough to draw a conclusion based off a single manufacturer.

                3. Panasonic

                • " low demand for the Tesla models S and X"

                While this appears to be a result of sales of luxury models, there is no mention of other Teslas which, IIRC, are sourcing their batteries from elsewhere.

                • EightImmortals on 03/11/2023 - 10:17

                  @ihfree: Fair enough.
                  Feel free to invest in the technology then. :)

                  • GrueHunter on 03/11/2023 - 18:40
                    +3

                    @EightImmortals: I did.

                    Six years ago.

                    Feel free to keep paying $2 a litre for fuel then. :)

                    • EightImmortals on 04/11/2023 - 07:30
                      -2

                      @GrueHunter: We bought a hybrid so it's not too bad, but hey if you think fuel costs are bad you should see what I pay for steak.

        • elektron on 03/11/2023 - 09:15
          +1

          Akio Toyoda agrees with Cory on this.

      • Tiggrrrrr on 03/11/2023 - 13:55

        "motor vehicel manufactureres"

  • HolyCr4p on 03/11/2023 - 07:32
    -4

    49,990 !!!! .Shut up and take my money.

  • Beezum on 03/11/2023 - 07:37
    +7

    Range: 233KM?

    No problem, i'll pay max 20k for it.

  • Bill Burn on 03/11/2023 - 07:58

    Cue the keyboard warriors who think they're on ozdiscount..

    • WatchNerd on 03/11/2023 - 08:05
      +5

      You should see some of the Rep posts who think they're on Ozfreeadvertising…

      • ItsMeAgro on 03/11/2023 - 09:31
        +1

        I've seen all I want of those tantrumming cockroaches, the productreview.com.au page for OzBargain is crawling with them.

      • Sleuth on 03/11/2023 - 10:09
        +2

        Don't scare them off, haven't seen the daily pleather belt / wallet combo deal yet.

  • mwblink86 on 03/11/2023 - 08:08
    +2

    I'll just wait until the electric market settles down, the max I've ever paid or could probably afford is around 45k

    • E5TOQUE on 03/11/2023 - 08:11
      +3

      There are already a few EV’s out that come in under that.

      • MG 4
      • BYD Dolphin
      • GWM Ora

      The MG and BYD in particular are getting some pretty decent reviews. Backed up by good warranties.

      • PainToad on 03/11/2023 - 08:42
        +3

        Yuck.

        • kenan3cn on 03/11/2023 - 16:03
          +1

          do you need an embulance? :D

          • aec on 03/11/2023 - 19:52

            @kenan3cn: Brain dead… ambulance can’t do much. Lol

      • H8Pootin on 03/11/2023 - 10:06
        +1

        On the contrary most MG reviews i read arent great. Somehow byd ones are mostly great. Leads me to wonder if there is some push for byd? Considering most major brands like the volvos polestars teslas etc all come out of china, is it justified for the premium price just for the brand? Well saying that, iphone, designed in california made in china is what im holding.

        • Tiggrrrrr on 03/11/2023 - 14:13

          Stellantis has purchased a 20% share 9in China's Leapmotor, so that adds Alfa, Maserati, and Abarth to the mix.

      • Sleuth on 03/11/2023 - 10:10
        +1

        Don't think I could tell people I drive a 'Dolphin' with a straight face.

      • mikokik5 on 03/11/2023 - 12:21

        GTFO.. geeezzz

  • hopper on 03/11/2023 - 08:09
    +2

    range 233km

    Gd luck in selling them. Most new EV owners have range anxiety, this will make it worst

    • sheikyerbouti on 03/11/2023 - 08:28
      +24

      Dude. Sky News? Seriously? How about a source that isn't an acknowledge paid media outlet for those with a financial interest in reducing EV uptake?

      I'm a firefighter involved in EV/BESS research. It really isn't a problem. My next car will be an EV.

      • trevor99 on 03/11/2023 - 08:40

        Hi sheikyerbouti,

        Sky was just the first link that came up. I really wish it wasn't the case that catastrophic thermal runaway fires are happening but we need to follow the evidence wherever it leads. Hopefully they can invent safer batteries but until then I'd stay away.

        This youtube channel has a lot of evidence and discussion, including 2 destroyed ships. Ferries in Norway are now restricting/preventing them from boarding.
        https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnjhI4Ajj3UOOBbZtF7ic…

        • dangerdanger on 03/11/2023 - 09:06
          +4

          Youtube and Sky news = trusted news sources now…. maybe next we'll get evidence from the 'scientists' at tiktok…

          • trevor99 on 03/11/2023 - 09:08
            -3

            @dangerdanger: Attacking the messenger not the message is weak. Maybe you can't see that yourself.

            • dangerdanger on 03/11/2023 - 09:10
              +4

              @trevor99: Finding youtube videos to support your argument is weak. Just saying…

              Could say the same about your comments on EV's. You're attacking the messenger, not the message too.

        • WhiteEvo6 on 03/11/2023 - 14:15
          +1

          Using John Cadogan as a source of reality is your first mistake. The mans an idiot and just posts for “Dem likes” as he would say. Most of the recent anti EV stories a have been found to be the exact opposite, I believe only 1 of the 4 or 5 stories doing the rounds was found to actually be caused by an EV, but lets not let facts get in the way of the media pushing a good story 😂

      • Binchicken22 on 03/11/2023 - 13:08
        +1

        How exactly have you come to the conclusion, in your firefighter research, that lithium battery thermal runaway isn't a problem? I'd be interested to see how you have come to that conclusion.

    • E5TOQUE on 03/11/2023 - 08:29
      +9

      Brands like BYD, Tesla and Ford are using LFP batteries either across their line up (BYD) or in their most popular models (Tesla, Ford, MG, GWM).

      LFP batteries don’t have the same thermal runaway issues that other batteries have. YouTube the BYD Blade battery getting pierced with a nail. Pretty much explains it all.

      Those LFP packs also don’t use Cobalt or Nickel either. So you don’t have poor little African kid’s mining that to power your new EV either

      EV sales are still increasing year on year.
      We are at that inflection point where the early adopters all have one now, and they now need to be sold to your everyday consumer, all while dealing with higher cost of living, and interest rates.

      Something like 90% of cars in Australia are financed. So higher interest rates and cost of living are going to have an impact. But overall year on year sales are only increasing at this point in time.

      • findingbargains on 03/11/2023 - 09:37

        I think we should be more skeptical of this. My understanding is that LFP batteries are not as thermal-runaway-proof as manufacturers claim they are. The nail piercing trick is a marketing gimmick by the manufacturer. I would like to see some verification and testing of those batteries by independent parties. The consequences are too catastrophic to dismiss this risk too easily.

        • elease on 03/11/2023 - 17:01

          Man, why thrusting a nail into a battery that is supposed to have thermal runaway issue, is a marketing trick?

          Please note, you did not provide any references to support your suggestion.

    • Bill Burn on 03/11/2023 - 08:39
      +4

      Do your research on battery chemistry, and do your research on the best selling cars in the past few months

      • ihfree on 03/11/2023 - 08:55
        +5

        So do ICE vehicles, and they're more likely to burn.

        As for toxic chemicals, just running an ICE vehicle adds air pollution which causes respiratory issues and reduces lifespans.

      • bargaineer on 03/11/2023 - 08:56
        +7

        You need to find credible news sources mate. John Cardogan hates EVs because they are gonna decimate his car brokerage business.

        When Tesla has been the best selling passenger car for the past few months and you own a car brokerage business that can sell exactly 0 Teslas (and more EV first car makers moving to a direct to consumer model), you can see why he’d wanna spout EV hate.

        What he is saying is not 100% factless, but he is blowing things well out of proportion and misrepresenting the safety of EVs for personal gain.

        • trevor99 on 03/11/2023 - 09:06
          -2

          See again people attack the messenger not the message.

          I don't particularly like him either, he's pretty sarcastic but that's irrelevant because his vids are loaded with facts and logic.

          These fires are real, and there will be more. It may take a tragedy somewhere sadly to wake many.

          • dangerdanger on 03/11/2023 - 09:08
            +4

            @trevor99: The messenger spreads the message…

            I wonder if you'll give another Sky news, or youtube, example again…

          • ChaseTheSun on 03/11/2023 - 09:09
            +6

            @trevor99: Dude do better research next time.

      • ChaseTheSun on 03/11/2023 - 09:08

        Wow. Clap clap.

      • panderiz on 03/11/2023 - 09:11
        +9

        Guys a knob, if you aren’t considering an ev because of fire risk your tin foil hat must be to tight.

        I’ve got two simply for the cost savings over time and with both on novated leases it’s ridiculously good.

        • dangerdanger on 03/11/2023 - 09:17
          +5

          Agree. My EV is the best car I've ever owned

          • panderiz on 03/11/2023 - 10:31
            +2

            @dangerdanger: Hands down, anyone who hasn’t driven one doesn’t yet realise how big a step they are besides the energy source.

            In 3-5 years time the uninformed will realise that for the majority of use cases they’re better in every way. There are definitely situations where things still need to improve but they won’t impact the majority of road users.

            I’ve saved 10k on fuel in the past 18 months all the while driving one of the safest and most technically impressive cars available. Leave home with 80-100% range each morning and almost never had to charge on the road unless longer trips. Cars that do 0-100 in 4.4 and 5.x respectively. Barely have to touch the wheel on a 2hr each way trip to the city….

          • mikokik5 on 03/11/2023 - 12:24
            -2

            @dangerdanger: Good luck on the insurance this fire season..

        • Trip on 03/11/2023 - 14:09
          +1

          How is your insurance compared to a petrol version?

          Ive heard insurances are sky-rocketing in other places due to high repair costs.

      • trevor99 on 03/11/2023 - 09:18

        The emotional responses here are just like when I try to warn people about certain bubbles like the buy now pay later stocks, or ridiculous meme stocks.
        People were piling into stocks like ZipPay at $7-$11, it peaked at $14 now it's 33c. "You're a dinosaur", "You just don't know how the future will be", etc.

        It's human nature and I see the same thing here with you guys. Emotion won't change the facts of the situation, you can pivot early or find out the hard way.

      • sheikyerbouti on 03/11/2023 - 09:43
        +6

        EVERY car burns. Per 10,000 vehicles, ICE vehicles have way, way more fires than EVs do.

        100 years ago, you'd have been one of the guys saying "I'm never buying no fancy automobile. Sitting on top of a tank of flammable liquid? no way!"

        • trevor99 on 03/11/2023 - 10:17
          -2

          You've missed the point entirely.

          EV fires are catastrophic. The example I gave of Luton Airport was where one Jeep Hybrid destroyed 1400+ cars and collapsed the multi level concrete and steel carpark.

          • sheikyerbouti on 03/11/2023 - 11:03
            +8

            @trevor99: They're not catastrophic. We've attended several and they're quite unremarkable. Sure, the battery burns, but its no worse than 80L of petrol burning when a tank is ruptured. There was one just south of sydney recently. A Tesla ran over debris that punctured the battery and went into thermal runaway. Even afterwards, once the thermal runaway had been extinguished, the car body was mostly intact. Because the flames come out the sides and front not the top. There's far greater danger from cheapo chinese Ozbargain lithium battery-powered devices being charged in homes and starting fires there.

            Your example is a bit crap anyway. In car park fires like that, it doesn't matter what the cause was - all those cars packed together will burn regardless of the cause. To blame EVs is idiotic. Sydney Olympic Park saw 50 cars destroyed and dozens more damaged in a carpark fire (in 2013, before EVs) because cars parked together always allow fire to spread.

            • trevor99 on 03/11/2023 - 11:18
              +1

              @sheikyerbouti: "once the thermal runaway had been extinguished"
              Do you mean you put it out?
              That would be cool, because the whole point is as these fires produce their own oxygen, they can only be left to burn out.

              • sheikyerbouti on 03/11/2023 - 11:57
                +3

                @trevor99: Of course it was put out. 2 lines fo 38mm layflat for about 30 mins, checked with a TIC then moved to a holding bay. What sort of question is that? "Fires produce their own oxygen" sure, but when out in the open air, who cares? It's not like there's a lack of oxygen available to the fire anyway.

              • GrueHunter on 03/11/2023 - 18:47
                +1

                @trevor99: Keep arguing with the qualified expert who has direct real world experience

                Be sure to keep mentioning how it's other people who argue from dogma and emotion, not you

          • goodwillN1 on 03/11/2023 - 11:24
            +2

            @trevor99: You argumentation is catastrophically flawed…
            The Luton airport fire was a diesel Land Rover. Cross check multiple sources, don't cherry pick and notice lot of them even debunk the hybrid/electric claims for that event.
            1400 cars burned. I doubt many if any EVs were involved and yet we had a massive catastrophic blaze caused by all those safe ICE cars.
            Sure, some EVs can get into hard to put out fires but have you seen photos and videos of burned out ICE cars by the road? They go poof in seconds, just like EV would. So they are equally dangerous in burning you alive. Some EVs can just burn longer which makes little difference to occupants. Statistically the ICE is more likely to catch fire.

            • trevor99 on 03/11/2023 - 11:40
              +1

              @goodwillN1: Yeah I've fought in fires too including ash Wednesday. A diesel tank is hard to ignite, and even if somehow it did, it would burn black.
              That Landrover had white smoke coming horizontally from the left side. I don't believe any media whitewash, especially after what we've seen in the past few years.

              How many ships have burned out from car fires before EVs? Now we already have two, because the sprinklers don't work, because the fires are a completely different beasts. By the way I can't accept where you say "I doubt many if any EVs were involved" because UK has around 3% penetration.

          • FrugalityMaximus on 03/11/2023 - 12:35
            +3

            @trevor99: It was a diesel Land Rover that started the fire, the car park also had no fire suppression system and it was a partial collapse. You’re not wrong that battery fires can be catastrophic and harder to put out currently, but you need to be careful where you get your information from since there’s a lot of hyperbole and agendas out there.

    • rodericb on 03/11/2023 - 10:41
      +5

      It was a diesel land rover sport.

    • slipperypete on 03/11/2023 - 19:21
      +1

      hmmmm….25 times more likely to have a fire in a petrol car

      I won't post the link, there are tons at the press of a button. Just not on sky news or fossil fuel sponsored YouTube sites

  • jackwilk on 03/11/2023 - 08:22

    Isn't there a fully electric Mazda for around same money? Same crappy range though.

    • E5TOQUE on 03/11/2023 - 08:24
      +2

      Mazda MX-30 has been discontinued in Australia.
      It was around $70,000 from memory.

    • T-man on 03/11/2023 - 11:01

      It's Mazda MX-30, it's a disaster!

  • M00Cow on 03/11/2023 - 08:24
    +1

    Anyone checked the insurance cost of these EV?

    • E5TOQUE on 03/11/2023 - 08:25
      +1

      Everyone’s quotes are going to be different as they all take into account

      • The area you house the car
      • your sex
      • your age
      • your driving history
      • your claims history

      When I’ve checked EV insurance quotes they are all pretty much the same as equivalent priced petrol/diesel cars.

      • easternculture on 03/11/2023 - 08:33
        +1

        Not is Sydney

      • M00Cow on 03/11/2023 - 08:38
        +2

        I was talking to someone who said they worked for Suncorp.They said the price of insurance for Tesla's were about double other cars and about to increase more, as repairers can't guarantee that after a bingle the batteries are all fine, so they need to replace them which costs a fortune.

        So I was wondering what other people's experiences are.

        The factors you list affects all vehicle insurance quotes, not relevant to EV's like this.

        • E5TOQUE on 03/11/2023 - 08:57
          +2

          Just did a quote for Tesla Model 3 and Y with RACV and Allianz with my details.

          Compared to it 2 other brands that cost the same. The Tesla’s came in $12 and $16 a month cheaper respectively compared to the other 2 brands I checked.

          I am aware Tesla force insurance companies to use their authorised repair centres. They are the only ones that will get the spare parts in to fix. That’s likely why Insurance companies don’t like them?

          • mikokik5 on 03/11/2023 - 12:29

            @E5TOQUE: Let me guess.. 2k per year.. geeezzz

            • E5TOQUE on 03/11/2023 - 14:31
              +1

              @mikokik5: If you are upgrading from some cheap Japanese/Korean run-about, it's going to come as a shock. Not denying that.
              But you need to compare it against other cars that are priced around the same amount of money that it directly competes with.

              Model 3
              BMW 3 Series
              Audi A4
              Merc C-Class
              Skoda Superb Sportline
              Kia Stinger

              Model Y
              BMW X3
              Merc GLC
              Audi Q5
              Skoda Kodiaq RS
              Kia Sorrento GT Line
              Hyundai Santa Fe Highlander
              Volkswagen Tiguan R-Line

              When I did my comparison they were all around the some sort of costs to insure through RACV and Allianz.

    • petebern on 03/11/2023 - 10:25
      +1

      I've been researching this recently due to the FBT changes for BEV/PHEV vehicles:
      As it is partly business use, and one of my Veterinarians and my son are only 24:
      Tesla Model 3 RWD $2700+, Model 3 AWD UNINSURABLE, Model Y RWD $1800+, Model Y AWD UNINSURABLE
      Mercedes A250e PHEV $1100+, Mazda CX60 PHEV $1100+ despite both models being $10+k dearer than the outgoing Model 3.
      The stupidity here is that the CX60 actually does 0-100 in 5.8secs which is faster than my Q70 which no insurance company will insure my son for???

      • mikokik5 on 03/11/2023 - 12:31

        A Q70 is an Infinity yeah? They have exited Aus market a long time ago.

        • petebern on 04/11/2023 - 12:47

          Yes it is an Infiniti, but the Insurance Companies seem to base age restrictions on 0-100 times rather than the car company.
          The Q70 claims 0-100 in 6.2(which I think was VERY conservative) and no Insurance Company will insure for <25. Yet the TESLA is 6.1 0-100 and they will insure it - at what seems to be a 'Tesla' Premium?? The Mazda is quicker again, so I don't know why it is that much cheaper than the Tesla??
          By the way, the Q70 has the same Engine as a 370Z(slightly detuned) so you can still get parts and is an absolutely BRILLIANT car for the money. Unfortunately I only get to drive it on weekends as my Business Car is a BT50.

  • thousandsuns on 03/11/2023 - 08:25
    +3

    Rubbish car.

  • easternculture on 03/11/2023 - 08:27
    +5

    Another lemon

    • Wiadro on 03/11/2023 - 08:36
      +2

      like all mini's
      you rarely see old ones because they are all broken down

      • M00Cow on 03/11/2023 - 08:40
        +5

        An old boss was into Mini's.
        He said it's like marrying a supermodel. They look damn fine, but you spend all your time & money looking after them.

  • Slo20 on 03/11/2023 - 08:35

    0-80% Charge: 36mins

    is that with a fast charging station or via standard power outlets?

    • M00Cow on 03/11/2023 - 08:39
      +3

      That's probably how long it takes to swap the battery out ;-)

    • Caped Baldy on 03/11/2023 - 09:27
      +1

      It's 100% with a fast charger at least 50kW. It is misleading.

      You can get a charger with a standard wall outlet but they only go around 2.2kW in my experience.

      • z28 on 03/11/2023 - 09:49

        Mini has only 1kwh battey pack which explains the fast charging.

  • jackwilk on 03/11/2023 - 08:41

    New Toyota/Subaru electric looks promising, but we are talking $70k+ and lengthy waiting times. There is probably waiting list for these already :)

    • E5TOQUE on 03/11/2023 - 08:55
      +4

      They are junk.
      Look at the reviews out of Europe and USA.
      Compared to the competition they are not good.

    • Eeples on 03/11/2023 - 09:28

      I think Toyota are doing nitrogen or hydrogen; not electric.

      Source: YouTube late at night

      • jackwilk on 03/11/2023 - 09:31
        +1

        yeah that's like future blue skye, for now hybrid and slowly rolling out electric…

      • easternculture on 03/11/2023 - 09:42

        I heard a story that the inventor of first hydrogen engine that uses water as fuel was killed and schematics stolen . Not sure if its true or a lie.

        • M00Cow on 03/11/2023 - 11:03
          -1

          I heard something similar and his name was Osama Bin Laden.

        • Tiggrrrrr on 06/11/2023 - 16:27

          Stanley Meyer.

          It is believed he was a conman. But who knows? The Tin Foil Hat brigade may be correct.

    • Speedster on 03/11/2023 - 10:33
      +1

      You mean the Toyota where the wheels were literally falling off?

      https://electrek.co/2022/06/23/toyota-recalls-bz4x-electric-…

  • drprox on 03/11/2023 - 08:43
    +3

    I like that people think a Mini buyer would cross shop a Tesla, MG, BYD etc… I don't see that happening

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