Found this Limited time deal
I had one already for some time and bought second set .
These are nice and easy to install.
CamelCamelCamel.
So not much work these days ?
Well it can be little work, at a minimum you should install a backflow preventer. But the rest is really a question of risk on you.
Sorry noob here so the water going to the flush system goes to this bidet why do we need backflow? Can someone explain ?
@life is suffering: To prevent the off-chance that poopy contaminated water leaks back to the mains, getting your family and the neighbourhood sick.
@zonra: Which happens when:
Your toilet bowl overflows, or
If fecal/urine matter gets into the sprayer.
@zonra: How would this happen, even if the toilet overflows the valve is closed, if it's open it will flow outwards. Back flow prevention is only needed on hot water tanks as the tank is not clean and the flow from the fresh water will pull out water from the tank.
How would this happen, even if the toilet overflows the valve is closed, if it's open it will flow outwards
Never put it beyond people to some how make it work. They probably get it into their mouth then mouth force it back. Then post it on TikTok. Next video is when they are in hospital with some dreadful infection and need a gofundme campaign.
@AuQld: A toilet design does not allow backflow as the bowl is isolated from the cistern in a way that the lower cannot flood the upper.
Backflow is required on the off chance the bowl floods/fecal matter is in contact with the spray and water mains depressurise, drawing contaminants into the water supply. Yes, it is a very small chance, but required by code edit (May be required by code - anyway its like a $15 part and a couple of minutes to install).
@singlemalt72: I have the xiaomi one, pretty sure it came with one but didn't know what it did, thought it was a pressure regulator.
Where do I install this backflow preventer? Where it connects to the bidet?
@enwar: Usually included there is a T splitter (think double adapter) that you use to convert the wall connection into 2 outlets. One goes to the toilet, one goes to the bidet. You put the backflow preventer inbetween the bidet hose and the t-splitter.
@JSONBourne: Might be a silly question, but would installing directly from the wall connection be viable as well?
@jayz: If you have the tape for it as some houses come with an outlet for a bidet (unusual). You still want to put the backflow preventer on however.
@JSONBourne: Sorry I don't think I worded it well.
Can you install the backflow preventer at the wall connection and it will work the just as well as installing the backflow preventer after the T-connector?
@jayz: I wouldn’t as the toilet should already have this built in and it may interfere with the flow. I would just do it on the Bidet.
Don't you have to pay an annual fee to the council if you have a backflow preventer?
https://www.brisbane.qld.gov.au/planning-and-building/do-i-n…
https://www.logan.qld.gov.au/building-and-plumbing/plumbing-…
@DarkThief: That’s the RDZ, which to do this legally yes you have to have. Non-legally, you can at least do the bare minimum and install your own backflow preventer with a $16 part from Bunnings.
This protects your own house as much as the community.
@amsaini15: It depends on the state, but in most cases it’s a grey area depending on the style of bidet. At the very least it will significantly reduce the risk of any cross-contamination happening..
@JSONBourne: A grey area around grey water.
Why am i not surprised? When law is deemed necessary to save us from a lack of common sense, only a genius lawyer paid to come down from their very 'high bar' to make a statutory change, can save humanity from brain worms and giardisis.
@JSONBourne: Could someone break down what RDZ is and stands for in this context? Googled it but the results are pretty varied.
@erifyx: Oh.. the results makes sense now, Reduce Pressure Zone or Reduce Pressure Zone Device. Thanks mate.
The Plumbing and Drainage Act 2018 requires owners of installed testable backflow prevention devices to:
register the device with the local government
have the device inspected or tested annually by a plumber endorsed for backflow testing.
Sigh. Yet another annual subscription testing model.
Is back flow actually a risk with mains water at a much higher pressure? I dont see how any backflow could occur.
Edit: it's for when mains water is having issues and there is no mains pressure. Ok
I dont see how any backflow could occur
Everyone pays for government entity incompetence. The 1 in 100 year chance.
This is interesting. I asked a licensed plumber to install a DIY bidet spray and they did mention the need to install a backflow preventer unit. However, the price quoted to me to install this unit was $550. In fact, a similar price was quoted by another plumber as well. The bunnings link is just $16. I wonder why on earth the plumber needed such a hefty price for this.
From Sydney water website:
"We supply recycled water to homes and businesses through purple pipes. These pipes supply water for flushing toilets, washing clothes and outdoor uses such as watering gardens in homes and businesses. "
If we don't use backflow prevention valve, can it still go back & mix with drinking water?
You'll note that recycled water only goes towards grey-water uses (ie. nothing to do with cooking, drinking water or anything where infection is an issue). 95% of toilets are connected to the drinking water supply and therefore this is an issue.
Australia has some of the best drinking water in the world, and you can drink it without fear of being sick. Do the right thing by your fellow man and install a backflow preventer :-)
PS. If you live in an apartment and get backflow, it can go into your neighbours supply. Hence why Australia is quite strict about these sorts of things.
Btw, if you're connecting a bidet to recycled water, i think a missing backflow blocker is the least of your problems.
And pretty much dedicated recycled water pipes only apply to the Rouse Hill/Kellyville/Stanhope Gardens and the the St Marys/Penrith areas.
thanks for this. I will cancel my order.
IM WASHING MY CLOTHES WITH POOP WATER???????????
And cooking with it
Completely agree that a backflow is a must, if not for yourself do it for the community. Even though a slim chance, the backflow preventer makes it virtually no chance and you can sit pretty knowing your good.
I’ve got one and I was astounded when I mentioned it on Amazon, not one person said it needed a device and they all installed it without it.
Agree. I’d say the biggest risk is if your bowl overflows. You do not want that getting back into your own house pipes, let alone for the community.
As far as I can see it would require the bowl to overflow, while the bidet tap is open, and simultaneously the water mains somehow going to negative pressure (so presumably the bowl is being flooded not from the mains, but from rain coming in from the roof due to freak thunderstorm just after an asteroid smashed a hole in the roof).
Not sure if it is technically impossible, but would be pretty close.
@md333: I think there's also the risk that once it has touched the head even if the valve isn't open at that time it can lead to later breeding. And down the line this can become an issue.
Again, very unlikely but given this also effects the clean water in your own home I wouldn't risk it to save $16 over say 10 years?
Some very good points, also reminder insurance might not cover you unless it has Australian Water Mark ( meets Aus standards https://www.waterrating.gov.au/register/watermark)
Do you trust this enough to not bust a leak in the middle of the night?
Or use lota aka water pot
I’ve had a similar bidet for 4 years or so; have never heard about a backflow issue.
This one…
https://www.amazon.com.au/gp/product/B07KXDBV62/
This is what I need?
https://www.bunnings.com.au/kinetic-chrome-backflow-prevente…
I've had one for a while too. It might depend on the type. Mine only turns on under high pressure. There's little chance of anything going back in.
Yes, there’s little chance of it happening.
But I’ll happily pay $16 for it to be no chance.
If RDZ is not installed, is the whole neighbourhood in trouble or will the water pressure localize the issue ?
Very good advice about the back flow.
https://www.bunnings.com.au/kinetic-chrome-backflow-prevente… this is the one I use. I don’t know if this is true but having a 2 storey house I didn’t want to risk any poo in the water ‘downstream’ in the house.
builder's plumber quoted me $1200+ each for a rpzd valve and said it also requires yearly maintenance. What a ridiculous scheme -_- I got a different plumber after handover to get termination points with valves and did a diy myself (one of the electric units already came with backflow prevention valve, for the other I bought one from bunnings) easy peacy no leaky or dramas for 2 years since installation. There should be easier diy solutions for this sort of matters imo with these toilet seats getting more and more popular.
Good call. For anyone looking into it, i think it's actually an RPZ
I don't think you do need the RPZ valve because the outlet is above the water level of the toilet. A check valve backflow thing is required. The hose type bum guns are supposed to have the RPZ because if they end up in the toilet water (maybe your kid is playing around) and there's a fire on the street and the sudden pressure drop from the firies hooking up their hose could defeat the check valves and draw water into the drinking supply.
Why does one fleck of poop in water cause sickness, when my dog eats a full dog shit and is fine :(
What if the tap is on the right side? Is the hose long enough to go from right to left? Thanks
Description say ,
Hose Length 2.43 Feet
74cm
I bought one of these. My tap is on the oposite side, plenty of hose length to reach across.
What if you have those modern toilet suite which is covered in the bottom with just holes for 1 pipe?
Get extension hoses from bunnings.
Saw this deal earlier. Convince me to get a bidet.
Clean bum happy chum.
Washing + wiping > wiping
If I’m at home I usually just jump in the shower 😂
Ahh the good old waffle stomp
If you shit in your hands, would you be satisfied with wiping your hands clean with a tissue or would you use water?
I’d be more perplexed as to why I crapped in my hands.
Possibly for a comprehensive, hands-on worm inspection
I don't contract my bumhole to pick up dinner though. Sounds like you might!?
A coke bottle full of water that you dab onto some TP is vastly less hassle and doesn't splash shitwater all over your back side like a bidet does.
How sophisticated..
Only a fool overcomplicates things and then pats himself on the back for it.
@umexcuseme: Do your guests ask why you have coke bottles of water in the bathroom? Or can they not get past the mason jars of urine and fingernails to get into the bathroom.
Its better then a hot shower when you're feeling down, its a massage for your arse
That's what Albo said after attending that parade.
BIG COW
Expected this to be first comment.
Is this in reference to udders or tongue?
Get this bidet and you’re in for a real teat
Bought a similar bidet after trip to Japan, the best decision one can make
I love my TOTO
Did you take out a mortgage for it? The rolls rhoyce but damn they’re expensive.
Where in Australia is Toto, I have a wash basin which is from Toto & keen to get a replacement,however nothing in Brizzy!!!
I bought a Samodra brand two years ago. Easy to install. Good, convenient and works great.
I’ve had mine for about 2 months. Now I refuse to shit at work !
Yeah but if you do it at work, zero toilet paper costs and an extra 10 minute break!
Yep get paid to poo. Theres an online calculator for that.
Have this one installed on my masters and works very well for 6 months now. bought another just now for the other toilets
really good quality bidet.
Is it heated, and can you aim the jet of water straight at your hole?
no water is just same as tap water, theres two option: one for your bum…you can adjust your bum then the other one for women's private part.
You can adjust the pressure on the switch knob.
turn knob on left for bum bum and turn right womens private.
With modern houses using rain water tank for toilet, garden and some external taps, can you still use Bidets? If not, can you turn off rain water supply so that main water can be used all the time?
No you don’t want to use recycled water with a bidet. Recycled water usually has bacteria and other containments in the water, and you don’t want that in certain places :-)
I agree. What is the solution? Turn off rain water supply?
Maybe install a water filter?
@step_andy: Hmm need confirmation what everyone is doing. I am surprised this is not much discussed given all new houses require rain water tank.
Well you must still have mains water at the sink taps to wash your hands. So leave all toilet connection alone, and connect the bidet to the taps (with the backflow device).
That's why in some places tap water taste like shit!
Keep in mind you very very much require the backflow preventer attachment on these. Also technically in most states these need to be fitted by a plumber and also have an RDZ fitted to be compliant and pass a future inspection.
These are very much DIY kits, but there are 3 main risks:
You don't install a backflow prevention valve and you allow backflow from your bathroom to go back into the drinking supply. Big issue
If you don't install the taps properly (although it's not hard) you could face flooding, and if you DIY insurance won't touch it.
To pass compliance you need an RDZ which is a royal pain in the ass.
Just keep in mind with these DIY kits.