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Dell G5 Gaming Desktop (Core i7-10700F 16GB RAM 1TB SSD RTX 3070) $1,999 Shipped (Late June) @ Dell eBay

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Dell G5 Gaming Desktop (Core i7-10700F 16GB RAM 1TB SSD RTX 3070) $1,999 Shipped (Late June) @ Dell eBay
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This deal is back. 1999 for a half decent gaming machine.
I know that Gamers Nexus did a tear down on one of these recently, and they didn't have many nice things to say, however it seems like a decent deal provided you have the extra cash to beef the case fans up…

Specs for those interested:
Processor
10th Gen Intel® Core™ i7-10700F processor(8-Core, 16M Cache, 2.9GHz to 4.8GHz)
Operating System
Windows 10 Home (64 bit) English
Video Card
NVIDIA® GeForce RTX™ 3070 8GB GDDR6
Memory
16GB, 2x8GB, DDR4, 2933Mhz
Hard Drive
1TB M.2 PCIe NVMe Solid State Drive
Warranty
1Y In-Home Hardware Service
Keyboard
Dell Wired Keyboard KB216 Black (English)
Mouse
Dell Wired Mouse MS116 Black
Power Cord
Power Cord (ANZ)
Wireless
802.11ac 1x1 WiFi and Bluetooth
Chassis
500W Chassis with Bezel Lighting

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      • ihfree on 24/05/2021 - 09:24
        +2

        Sorry, having to upgrade the system to avoid overheating already means this isn't a great system for the target market.

        • wswgin on 24/05/2021 - 13:26
          +2

          I can understand that this is not ideal for any pc diy user.

          I researched before buying this, building something similar would cost $500-1000 more for the parts, assembly and delivery etc, Dell customer service and warrenty also comes in handy.

          Also researched about the issues with this machine, for the heating issue there is a cheap and easy fix. For other issues, I don't plan on upgrading it further so not relevant to me, if I'm unlucky the PSU or Motherboard dies after warrenty expires, I'll just get a new case, motherboard and psu.

          Considering all, I bought the machine, did the upgrade and do not regret buying it.

          • OMGJL on 24/05/2021 - 14:14

            @wswgin: could you run aida64 stress test or prime95 alongside with HWinfo 64 to get the PL1/PL2 value and duration?

            could you browse the BIOS to check how many voltage setting can be altered, also RAM frequency/timing?

            I am genuinely interested

            • wswgin on 24/05/2021 - 20:49

              @OMGJL: I honeslty don't understand or know how to do those tests you mentioned

              If you write me a step by step guide, I can do it for you.

            • wswgin on 24/05/2021 - 20:49

              @OMGJL: I honeslty don't understand or know how to do those tests you mentioned

              If you write me a step by step guide, I can do it for you.

              • OMGJL on 25/05/2021 - 23:42

                @wswgin: Thanks, if you download HWINFO64, use sensor only and check on the CPU package power (in watt) inside the CPU group, then open AIDA64, tools - system stability test, untick everything except FPU, hit a stopwatch on your phone and press run, note down the max package power, and it will drop lower 1 or 2 times, and become something consistent like 65w/125w ish.

                If you could note down the initial power draw, the next power draw, and the final power draw, the time between it become lower first time, and the time it become lower again?

                should take 2 mins after burn-in test.

          • ihfree on 24/05/2021 - 20:44

            @wswgin: That's the best way to go into a purchase - informed.

            Based on the reported temps, I think for those purchasing it is important for them to at least monitor temps especially during hotter times of year.

    • ihfree on 24/05/2021 - 09:28

      What was the system like people to upgrading the CPU cooler and fans? In terms of temps and noise?

      As most CPU coolers attach to the board, did you reuse the cooler mounts/ mounting screws?

      • wswgin on 24/05/2021 - 10:35
        +2

        The biggest problem with this pc is the cpu cooler, cpu temp was going over 90 very quickly, and noisy.

        Changing the cpu cooler was easy, a quick search and theres many posts and youtube videos on recommended cooler models and steps. There is a Noctua model that requires no other screws but a bit expensive, I got the CM model and had to buy a few M3 screws.

        • lunchbox99 on 24/05/2021 - 17:34

          Noctua U9S and Noctua NF-A9 PWM back fan. $100 for both on newegg shipped direct from Noctua. Good as gold.

          • wswgin on 24/05/2021 - 20:53
            +3

            @lunchbox99: I got the CM Hyper TX3, only costs $32 and does the job

    • aussman on 24/05/2021 - 13:05

      same experience had one for 6 months no issues what so ever
      previous pc was a custom build after 7 years motherboard died - just salvaged drives and trashed the rest

    • cycleri3 on 27/05/2021 - 08:38

      What CPU cooler did you buy?

  • wings bubbin boaz on 23/05/2021 - 21:57
    +3

    after gamer nexus break down on the Dell system
    i cannot recommended.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DMg6hUudHE

    but still thank you OP

    • CalmLemons on 23/05/2021 - 22:03
      +11

      gamer nexus can be a bit on the extreme side sometimes but honestly just one look at the internals of this and anyone who knows anything about pc building would just die.

      even looking from behind, a 3070 with a proprietary psu wtf?

      • CalmLemons on 23/05/2021 - 23:02
        +6

        rofl i'm watching hte rest of the video "the fking cooler is screwed into the case, not the motherboard"

        lol

        but i'm thinking probably to prevent it dislodging during transport.

        • lunchbox99 on 24/05/2021 - 17:37

          Well in fairness, if you're making a prebuild anchoring to the case is more sturdy than a MB backplate for supporting weight. The only reason custom builds don't do this is because you can't.

      • lunchbox99 on 24/05/2021 - 17:37
        +1

        It's a platinum spec 12V DC PSU. It's actually more modern than the standard ATX style psu you're used to seeing.

    • garetz on 23/05/2021 - 22:18
      +10

      People can make their own decision.

      • Tristan3344 on 24/05/2021 - 11:47
        -2

        And people can choose to waste money, I'm just pointing out this is a bad prebuilt, there are better deals with much more future use available to them then that thing, watch the gamers nexus video if you want details, this product basically hopes people don't know what a pc is so they waste money on it with dell

  • dmaca667 on 23/05/2021 - 22:11
    +2

    I had just finished watching the gamers nexus review of this thing (both parts)….

  • RobBoss on 23/05/2021 - 22:12

    Stay away haha

  • scud70 on 23/05/2021 - 22:21
    +4

    The prebuild stuff from big companies is not new… Working as long as I have in IT this is all normal, proprietary, bad cooling etc… Including the on-site line item.. For business PC's from Dell or even Hp its a line item but no cost associated… For consumers its always an upgrade option and they probably stuffed up the billing of it and instead of it being included its done as a separate cost.. I like GN but guys not been in corporate environment for way too long otherwise none of what he 'uncovered' would make him flinch… He even mentioned he'd worked on something similar when it was Pentium 4… It's not changed a tad bit over the years…

    Only scummy thing is that bullshit subscription that they automatically tacked on… That also didn't surprise me though… When I used to do orders from Dell I'd comb through the line items multiple times for little surprises like Microsoft office automatically being added or antivirus n stuff…

    To be honest dell and hp and other similar companies are corporate customers first and they then use the same crud to consumers who don't know or don't care about such things and proprietary mobos etc…

    • gadget on 24/05/2021 - 15:30

      Totally agree. This is basically an appliance as far as the target market is concerned.

      You can't look at it in the same way as a diy system which is why I felt the GN review was off base. Front USB ports part of the motherboard? Almost certainly a cost saving measure in terms of parts and ease of assembly. Single RAM stick actually is a positive - although you don't get dual channel at least the owner gets to upgrade the ram without tossing out the old stick.

      Yeah the purists are out with the torches and pitchforks!

      • scud70 on 24/05/2021 - 16:08

        Honestly if you are that well informed you wouldn't bother to look at Dell's (I know at the moment consumers are because of shortages).. And if you aren't very well informed who the heck would watch GN channel on YouTube for advice… None of that would make any sense to them.

        • ihfree on 24/05/2021 - 16:37

          Part of the reason for the review is the shortages of GPUs which seems to have increased interest in Dell pre built system. From that perspective, the GN video makes sense.

          Ozbargain is probably a spectrum of people who would consider this system. Some Ozbargainers may just buy the system based on upvotes. Breaking it down and explaining what's wrong with the system is perfectly fair.

          Is a downvote justified? It's probably a 50/50 in my opinion. It appears to have issues such as running hot which would reduce its life span. Though, that problem is easily rectified with some additional case fans which is easy for a user to fix. A downvote pointing this out is probably fair. There are a lot of Ozbargainers who are confused by the proprietary components(eg: why not just swap into another case, why not just install an AIO, etc)

          Looking at positives: It's also seems like a reasonable system with the GPU in terms of overall price. Dell systems also come with in home service which is decent and saves a lot of hassle.

          I personally think the upvote/downvote ratio is about right with enough red flags raised to ensure that potential buyers are at least aware of potential issues before purchase.

  • NVidia Sucks on 23/05/2021 - 22:21

    3070 will be less than 1000 next month

    just wait

    • OzBaggins on 23/05/2021 - 22:24
      +2

      Can you let me know when they are please? :)

      • wlqrichard on 23/05/2021 - 22:29
        +3

        She/he will tell you to wait again next month with the same phrase :P

    • superuser on 23/05/2021 - 22:27

      are you sure? i'll wait

      • NVidia Sucks on 23/05/2021 - 22:57
        +1

        2 news:

        Nividia has already replaced all their rtx 30 series with harsh locking GPU cores.

        Eth Miners income has dropped at least 60% this week and EIP 1559 gonna be applied on 14th July, which reduce futher 50% mining income.

        • ihfree on 23/05/2021 - 23:24

          Eth Miners income has dropped at least 60% this week and EIP 1559 gonna be applied on 14th July, which reduce futher 50% mining income.

          … which may decrease the reward but increase the price, keeping profitability about the same 🤔

        • jace88 on 23/05/2021 - 23:34

          Eth Miners income has dropped at least 60% this week and EIP 1559 gonna be applied on 14th July, which reduce futher 50% mining income.

          But I thought the LHR cards weren't shipping until the end of the month to AIB…? i.e. the reduction in mining income might've been due to falls in the price (arising from other external factors) as opposed to the actual mining performance of existing GPUs being impacted. </my theory which could be wrong>

    • ln28909 on 23/05/2021 - 22:33
      +9

      we all know how that turned out for the ozbargainers that listen to this kind of advice in September last year

      • ihfree on 23/05/2021 - 22:53

        I'm sure this is just based on crypto prices dropping, LHR cards and a ETH moving to proof of stake.
        Honestly, all bets are off on where prices will move - happy to hear more if anyone else has opinions or knows more about this.

        • Freestyle on 24/05/2021 - 16:23

          Crypto can drop, tjat’ll drop demand by like 20-30%, they still cant make enough and there’s still many logistical problems

  • effjay on 23/05/2021 - 22:40
    +20

    I bought this machine about a month ago when it was 1800 dollars. Added an intake and exhaust fan, and a cooler. CPU and GPU temps remain around 70 while running RDR2 and .Fallen Order. Pretty fast too, takes about 5 seconds to boot up. Only bloatware that came installed was probably the McAfee antivirus and Alienware Command Center, uninstalled both. Honestly, I can see why many people are against this deal because you're locked in with a proprietary 500W PSU, but the PC is pretty much perfect for me because I don't have any plans to upgrade it in the future anyway. Also its not like Gamer Nexus could recommend a sub 2K PC with the same specs but with kickass cooling and PSU, expect some tradeoffs with prebuilts especially around these prices.

    • kaleidoscope on 24/05/2021 - 08:38
      +6

      The problem is people nowadays watch one single review video and critically analyse everything out of context. There are big differences between oem pcs and prebuilt computers by retail shops.
      From my experience these computers work as is and does the job they’re intended to. If you want to customise and upgrade every part inside at some point these arent for you, but for everything else they just work.

  • Circly on 23/05/2021 - 23:01

    I have an XPS 8920 and I was able to swap out my psu for a EVGA G3 650w.. Who says you can't swap out the psu?

    • ihfree on 23/05/2021 - 23:07

      That's a 4 year old PC? I'm guessing Dell have changed the design to cut costs since then.

      • smashman42 on 24/05/2021 - 00:03

        Dell, HP, etc have always had bullshit systems like the one in the OP, and more decent upgradeable ones like Circly got

        The problem is knowing which is which if you aren't a tech nerd, which is the majority of the market, but that same majority probably don't care and would just buy a new one in 3yrs anyway rather than even try to upgrade anything other than RAM/GPU/storage

  • Reddy Cool on 23/05/2021 - 23:19

    As much as I hate prebuilts, it's a very good deal in the current market when most RTX 3070's alone are $1700. Yes, the PSU, motherboard, and case are 'The Dell' standard, but my solution would be to upgrade in three years or less, the chance of premature PC failures in three years is rather slim. My other option could have been a three-year warranty upgrade, but LTT's secret shopper series (season 1 and 2) has shown that it isn't a variable option also its not available on their eBay page to begin with?

  • Steakz on 23/05/2021 - 23:26
    -2

    The fact that they asking 2k for this is an insult

  • jeremy0000 on 23/05/2021 - 23:30

    Hey ozbargainers. I'm after a new desktop computer. But have no need for graphic intensive programs. Let me know if you want the graphics card and I will keep the desktop. Cheers.

    • Drakesy on 24/05/2021 - 14:24

      Would probably be better off with a dell optiplex/one of the custom builds by techfast which would have better thermals/parts.

      This is basically only if you want to obtain a 3070 for cheap/not have to run the supply gauntlet.

  • conza on 23/05/2021 - 23:33
    +1

    Ah yes the dumpster fire. DO NOT BUY, DO NOT BUY, DO, NOT, BUY. Please, you have been warned.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5N7aYtkzKJc

    • magic8ballgag on 24/05/2021 - 09:18
      +2

      That video is overrated, stop being a sheep and have your own opinion.

      • conza on 24/05/2021 - 09:22
        +4

        Go watch part 1. A sheep would simply accept this product at face value and not research it. This may surprise you to learn as well, but sharing an opinion with someone or a large community doesn't make you a sheep either.
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DMg6hUudHE

        • magic8ballgag on 24/05/2021 - 10:01
          +2

          If all potential buyers are doing is watching that video, they aren't going to get the proper facts, which have been clearly explained in the comments of this deal.

          All of the negative voters are simply following a crowd if they're just sharing the same video over and over without explaining why or offering their own opinion.

          • conza on 24/05/2021 - 10:05
            +4

            @magic8ballgag: See the problem here is, I want people to watch the video, not hear from me what I took away from it. But here's the main thing. It's a terrible PC in terms of serviceability, recycling, ease of use, value, and general use as it won't be able to cool down the components with the case that it has. If you want details watch the video, if people don't want to watch videos and want to blindly buy a poor product, I can't help them.

            • magic8ballgag on 24/05/2021 - 10:06

              @conza: The actual problem here is that the video only focuses only on the product's downfalls, and doesn't cover any positive aspects.

              You're sharing and promoting half of the story.

              • ihfree on 24/05/2021 - 10:08
                +3

                @magic8ballgag: Did you buy this PC? How are you forming an opinion on the positive aspects?

                Is it merely the price of the GPU?

              • conza on 24/05/2021 - 10:10
                +3

                @magic8ballgag: What's the other half? Pay $2000 for the salvageable individual components? 10700F, can't be anything wrong with that, GPU will be a sub-standard cooled part, probably a blower cooler or a cheap cooler of some kind, some Ram an NVME SSD worth $100, a crap keyboard and mouse, then the case, psu, cpu cooler and motherboard are literal e-waste, you cannot reuse them if not used together.

                What's the other half? This conclusion is solid on it's own, it's a poor value proposition and shouldn't be bought by anyone. If it already has been bought, use it for as long as you can but it will run hot, especially with these components.

                • magic8ballgag on 24/05/2021 - 10:12

                  @conza: How is it any different from the sub-par pre-builts from TechFast regularly posted here?

                  Dell bloatware and non-upgradable components shouldn't be enough incentive not to buy it.

                  • conza on 24/05/2021 - 10:14
                    +4

                    @magic8ballgag: Watch. The. Video. And find out. I'm not especially a fan of TechFast but it's better than this, the motherboard isn't custom it's generic so you can reuse it or swap it easily, the PSU is again standard ATX, can be swapped easily, so is the case and CPU cooler, it's not at all the same, neither are most system integrators as they use STANDARD, PARTS. Do you get it yet? Dell make their own case, motherboard* and cpu cooler THEY ARE E-WASTE.

                    • magic8ballgag on 24/05/2021 - 10:15
                      +2

                      @conza: What's the point of buying a pre-built computer if all you're going to do is upgrade every single component?

                      Type in capital letters all you like, it doesn't make the point you're trying to make any more correct or relevant.

                      You clearly do not comprehend the target consumer for this type of product if you believe everything you're writing.

                      • conza on 24/05/2021 - 10:17
                        +3

                        @magic8ballgag: I do comprehend them, they're ignorant and there's nothing wrong with that, but I'm less ignorant so I'm offering advice and a source for advice from a respected tech YouTube channel with millions of subscribers and billions of views.

                        For people that don't research and end up with garbage systems, that's their fault. If anyone on here reads for a few seconds and watches the video for a few minutes, they'll easily steer clear of it.

                        Look, I've ripped this product to shreds, that's all, if you still want to buy it or someone else does, my conscious is clear.

                        • [Deactivated] on 24/05/2021 - 11:24
                          +1

                          @conza: Steve's great, but the problems he points out are entirely meaningless to someone that plans to only get the thing serviced by Dell under warranty. That's the target market for this thing. There should be a giant warning across it that says don't buy this if you plan on upgrading or repairing it yourself if it goes wrong, but that's it. I can't see why millions of people wouldn't be happy buying this and never looking inside the thing, lord knows plenty of them get suckered into buying worse things.

                          • syousef on 24/05/2021 - 13:45

                            @[Deactivated]: …and when the warranty expires? Stop making excuses for this utter garbage. The more of this we accept and aren't critical of, the more of it we'll get, and frankly the more we deserve.

                            It isn't about the bloatware either. It's about the
                            - non-standard motherboard with proprietary connectors that only fits one proprietary case, with IO being part of the mainboard and sticking out of the case.
                            - non standard powersupply that you can't easily replace or fit to another computer.
                            - CPU cooler that is used to bolt the motherboard to to the case.
                            - slow memory.
                            - non-standard video card with non-standard BIOS, horrible cooling, and poorly applied thermal pads

                            It is complete and utter junk. I'm sorry if you don't recognize that. But if you don't you need to educate yourself before working on any PC.

                            • pharkurnell on 24/05/2021 - 14:17

                              @syousef:

                              The more of this we accept and aren't critical of,

                              You believe you'll change Dells mind?

                              • syousef on 24/05/2021 - 15:03

                                @pharkurnell: Certainly not me by myself. But collectively yes. If people don't buy their garbage, they'll lift their game or die, like many before them.

                                If on the other hand people just buy whatever they dish up what incentive do they have not to keep making worse and worse products? And what incentive do their competitors have to spend more to produce something better? It's a true race to the bottom.

                                That's how a free market works. If quality is worth nothing to you, no one has any reason to give you quality.

      • ihfree on 24/05/2021 - 09:37
        +3

        How do you form your own opinion? Are you suggesting that users just buy the product?

        • magic8ballgag on 24/05/2021 - 10:09
          -1

          No, I suggest that potential buyers be smart and don't fall into the negative, click-bait hype that popular YouTube channels often entail.

          • ihfree on 24/05/2021 - 10:18
            +1

            @magic8ballgag: The video, and other buyers, all provide important information for potential buyers.

            If you do want this system it seems you need additional fans and a CPU cooler to avoid thermal throttling. This alone is enough to warrant a negative vote in my opinion and takes it out of the "target market" you're talking about.

            There's also no upgrade path.

            Maybe it is the best option price wise with current GPU prices.I do know people who upgrade their whole system (though they wouldn't buy Dell). That's why I haven't down voted.

            The fact that this information is clearly out there is a positive thing and helps people form their own opinion.

          • syousef on 24/05/2021 - 13:49
            +1

            @magic8ballgag: So here's the thing. If you think it's okay to lock down the BIOS, bolt the CPU cooler onto the case, create a motherboard, power supply and case that can only go together because they are all non-standard, use slow memory, and supply a graphics card with poorly applied thermal pads and a custom vbios, quite frankly I would much rather take Steve's advice over yours when building or buying a pre-built. There was nothing good about the PC he reviewed, other than the okay price.

  • icarus255 on 24/05/2021 - 00:49
    -2

    Don't buy into all the anti-Dell garbage on here. I bought the XPS 8940 (10700K and 3070) six months ago and it's amazing. I don't know where is all these over-heating issues are coming from but it's nonsense. I do some decent amount of gaming on my Dell and never had any issues with it.
    I opened it up too and had a look inside and there's nothing crazy in there - just normal PC parts. I don't understand what you can't you replace or upgrade…
    Don't listen to n00bs on youtube and ozbargains, do your own research.

    • Shwayne on 24/05/2021 - 02:11
      +2

      I don't understand what you can't you replace or upgrade…

      I mean it's explained in detail in the video.

    • MoleManMike on 24/05/2021 - 02:51
      +5

      There is nothing anti-Dell here. Dell makes some great products.
      This pre-built happens to absolutely not be one of them, it's complete garbage. Maybe if you actually watched a review of this particular machine instead of anecdotally bringing stuff up about whatever model you happen to own (which might be fine), then you would actually know what you are talking about, and have something valuable to comment. But this machine is full of cheap corner cutting and weird proprietary parts that would make upgrading a total nightmare.

      • magic8ballgag on 24/05/2021 - 10:04

        How is it 'complete garbage'? Stop exaggerating and explain why.

      • [Deactivated] on 24/05/2021 - 11:27
        +1

        Upgrading the Case, Motherboard or PSU is basically not going to happen with this machine, but who that buys a Dell ever does that anyway? The PSU for most people is actually an upgrade over standard ATX from a power consumption POV. Just proprietary. This is a machine that has drawbacks, and some (minimal) positives. I would not buy it, but it's no worse than buying a Synology NAS for example.

        • gadget on 24/05/2021 - 15:41
          +1

          Reality check - No one who buys these types of products from Dell/HP/Lenovo/etc will be doing so with an upgrade mindset (with the possible exception of the SSD and RAM.

      • icarus255 on 24/05/2021 - 12:00
        +1

        Oh sure the experiences of the consumer and an actual user of the product don't count but the ramblings of a youtuber who makes money sensationalising reviews to get more viewers does count? Hahahaha
        These deals have been around on OB for a while now and I don't see people posting negative experiences. The only negative posts are from people who don't actually own the product. Do you see where I am going with this?

        At this price you can't afford not to buy it and I think anyone that buys it will be pleasantly surprised.

        • ihfree on 24/05/2021 - 12:25
          +1

          experiences of the consumer and an actual user of the product

          You have a different model. Not all Dells are built equally.

          This machine has issues with thermal throttling in its stock configuration. This has also been reported by actual owners of the system who are neutral or upvoted based on component prices.

          • icarus255 on 24/05/2021 - 13:32

            @ihfree: No, even back then people were making similarly stupid statements about overheating and power supply issues. I almost didn't buy it because people were claiming that the 500W PSU wasn't enough for this system. That's when I realised most people don't know what they're talking about because why on God's earth would Dell engineers design and build a system that didn't come with enough power or that overheats?
            And what do you know, six months later I haven't had a single PSU issue or heat issue… yet the Dell trolling continues.

            • ihfree on 24/05/2021 - 14:09
              +1

              @icarus255:

              I almost didn't buy it because people were claiming that the 500W PSU wasn't enough for this system

              Maybe the average user or builder doesn't understand how GPU manufacturers calculate their requirements. Just because they're wrong on one aspect, that doesn't invalidate everything else.

              God's earth would Dell engineers design and build a system that didn't come with enough power or that overheats?

              Money.

              You don't have the G5 and seem to be basing your experience on a machine you have. This is widely reported issue, including a few cases in this thread. It is still easily remedied with case fans and a new CPU cooler (there are guides online according to another user)

              • gadget on 24/05/2021 - 15:47

                @ihfree: You've forgotten warranty repairs cost money too. Manufacturers will design their products to meet the minimum to balance price against warranty claims. Sure some systems will fail (that's life even with your high end MB's) but overall most will probably chug along ok.

          • Shwayne on 24/05/2021 - 16:44

            @ihfree: His model is just as rubbish unfortunately.

            • icarus255 on 25/05/2021 - 14:07

              @Shwayne: Like I said, never had an issue with it.

              • ihfree on 25/05/2021 - 15:23

                @icarus255: A system can be functional and have issues.

                How much detail have you looked into your system? You have the XPS model, so CPU temp is less likely to be an issue as a better cooler is used

                Have you checked any of the following:

                • ​GPU temps
                • VRM temps
                • CPU temps
                • Ram runs at listed speed
                • Time spent in boost states

                It's seems that your upvote is based on:

                • you have no issues with another model
                • a reaction to anti dell posts.

                This PC(the G5) runs the CPU at close to its maximum temperature which can reduce the lifespan of the component. In addition on other forums, thermal throttling has been reported. This has been reported by other users - having to upgrade the cooling or remove the side panel over summer.

                I'm not going to say your system is junk because I can definitely see how this system could be an OK purchase. I just wonder how well you know your system. If you found out that your PC was affected by heat issues, would that concern you?

                This PC has a 1 year warranty, and even assuming you took an extended warranty, are you happy with your PC running so close to maximum and potentially reducing its lifespan? What kind of lifespan are you expecting?

    • conza on 24/05/2021 - 08:26

      I assume you are trolling? You can't replace the case, the motherboard, the power supply, the CPU cooler. That's pretty bloody significant, as these are OEM parts that all work together but not with anything else. If you have one and are enjoying it, good for you and I hope it lasts a long time. If you're trolling, please don't, people may take you seriously as a counter point when in fact there's no good argument for buying a Dell G5. The case has virtually no cooling at all, it looks open but it's a trick, half of the front panel is blocked by a HDD case, the other half only gets a small bit of air in due to the large plastic stripes that block much of the air that could get in.

      It is not worth purchasing, by anyone.

  • Freestyle on 24/05/2021 - 00:50

    if this is your only option to get a PC now, proabably do it but make sure you do a clean windows install after you get it and you probably wont be able to upgrade much other than RAM or storage.

  • Outsider on 24/05/2021 - 06:45

    I know that Gamers Nexus did a tear down on one of these recently, and they didn't have many nice things to say

    He went as far as to call this build "DELL'S SCAM" via video thumbnail mate.

    You are supporting their scam against people who don't know how to watch YouTube videos from tech Jesus before buying sh*t like this.

    • magic8ballgag on 24/05/2021 - 09:19
      +3

      I'm confused, who's side are you on?

  • zjz93 on 24/05/2021 - 07:45
    +2

    These can't cool themselves

  • cc23 on 24/05/2021 - 09:50
    +6

    The sentiment on these has changed all of a sudden because of 1 YouTube video, used to be that every damn variant of this got some mega upvotes. Seems we are a fickle bunch!

    Source: https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/621434

    • ln28909 on 24/05/2021 - 10:25
      +5

      People are just a bunch of sheep that listen to one bad review and completely forget the reason that makes this a good buy in the first place

      • Clear on 24/05/2021 - 11:14

        By their logic we shouldn't even use OzBargain.

        • ihfree on 24/05/2021 - 11:48

          LOL, so much salt!

          Now it has become rubbish, full of clicky primadonnas that live frustrated useless lifes and need an audience to vent their frustrations and unfulfilled lifes.

          Are they talking about Productreview or Ozbargain?

          • Clear on 24/05/2021 - 11:57
            +2

            @ihfree: Haha clearly both. Most reviews are from people caught sockpuppeting.

  • g12345567 on 24/05/2021 - 09:58
    +2

    Dell desktop computers used to be good. There monitors on the other hand are still highly regarded as being very good.

  • pformag on 24/05/2021 - 10:02
    +2

    Pretty much the going rate for a 3070.

  • Kumo1887 on 24/05/2021 - 10:19
    +3

    You guys need to stop complaining about it being a shit deal. The gpu and cpu alone is worth alone $2000 or $2500 if you buy the gpu at current rrp.

  • Beef Dingle Berry on 24/05/2021 - 10:24

    Here's another review.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXmE8wESzFo

    I'm more horrified by the after sales support.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNu858S-Cdk

  • wswgin on 24/05/2021 - 11:03
    +2

    I can understand that this is not ideal for any pc diy user.

    I researched before buying this, building something similar would cost $500-1000 more for the parts, assembly and delivery etc, Dell customer service and warrenty also comes in handy.

    Also researched about the issues with this machine, for the heating issue there is a cheap and easy fix. For other issues, I don't plan on upgrading it further so not relevant to me, if I'm unlucky the PSU or Motherboard fails after the warrenty expires, I'll just get a new case, motherboard and psu.

    Considering all, I bought the machine, did the upgrade and do not regret buying it.

  • hero000 on 24/05/2021 - 11:10

    Seriously, After watching the review. I would really appreciate it if we don't promote this anymore. Setup a warning message for anyone interested to watch the review video first before purchasing this Pentium IV PC.

    • [Deactivated] on 24/05/2021 - 11:30
      +3

      I don't think most people who are in the target market for this this will understand the video. Steve is great but his videos are aimed at a more technically aware audience. The sort of person who won't do badly buying this will never open it and call Dell if it ever breaks.

      • gadget on 24/05/2021 - 15:50
        +1

        Yep - which is why his video misses the mark.

  • srhardy on 24/05/2021 - 11:24
    +2

    OK, CAN YOU MAKE THIS RUN COOLER & FASTER?

    YES. Ill start with the FREE steps to do this.
    1) Clean install the OS, Microsoft lets you DL the iso and copy to any old 8gb USB and will autodetect the correct version on install. The install the LATEST drivers from Intel, AMD or nVidia. Any ?drivers will need to be found at DELLS support page for the correct version of the PC.
    2) Remove the GPU and re-thermal paste it, cost is time, a screwdriver and some paste and thats damn cheap so buy some good stuff if out! (health, dont get on fingers)
    NOTE: WINDOWS HAS ANTIVIRUS BUILT IN, FOR FREE & ITS GOOD… NO BLOATWARE!
    Also, YesTechCity, Youtuber and mate has a how to make a slim, gaming win10 install if your interested too, without much of M$ spyware too.

    Now for the EXTRA COST helps (depending on what you have spare of course, or what you can cadge from a PC shops back room bin!
    1) Better, quiter front FAN, its a swap job, 3 pin and you can go LED if you want for some additional bling, Cost, $10-40
    2) A CPU watercooler closed loop and get the right size to max that rear fan space over the included one. Cost on aliexpress/amazon is $70-120
    3) While open, make sure you have dual channel memory (2xdimms), if not buy a eBay matching DIMM (prob from another dell user) for 16gb $80-120. It will give you 32gb of the original was 16gb and you can always use more memory and its a cheap UG! BUT if you have 2xDIMMS, well then look for 2 more matching dimms as you have 4 slots but only if and when you need more (movie editing is my only app that needs more, always more)… 64gb is the max you can use that makes a difference, 128gb is maybe 2% better than 64gb!
    ****YOUTUBE CLIPS GALORE WITH VIDEO SHOWING A NEWBIE HOW TO DO ALL THIS!****

    No two ways about it, you have spent, maybe upto another $150-250+ and now you have a great PC for gaming with temps in the 80s and 100% GPU.
    \Now give this a LIKE and post any links or ideas you think I missed or deals that would be appreciated!

    OZBARGIN RULE: ALWAYS CHECK DELL for DEALS and READY TO SHIP offers. Dell's website have a LOVEKEANU discount code (same as buy x5 7% offer) and look to see if they have your eBay offering in a SHIPNOW offering! Compare and then hit YEAH or NAY, after all, its your money!

    Both dell and eBay/dell have a 11th gen i9, 32gb 3080 offering with discounts to $3500ish on water cooling… Just saying…. Could use some of the steps above, but hey, you buy a computer to mess with it right?!!? …. So i take the time to make these free helpfull posts, it helps if you hit that THUMBS UP so I know it helped!

    • ihfree on 24/05/2021 - 11:45
      +3

      1) Any ?drivers will need to be found at DELLS support page for the correct version of the PC.

      In many cases, you're better off going straight to the manufacturer.

      2) Remove the GPU and re-thermal paste it, cost is time, a screwdriver and some paste and thats damn cheap so buy some good stuff if out! (health, dont get on fingers)

      This is not something a user should have to do and is by no means an easy thing to do if you don't have any experience. This can also be a fiddly process as thermal pads/paste may not just be in contact with the GPU die.

      2) A CPU watercooler closed loop and get the right size to max that rear fan space over the included one. Cost on aliexpress/amazon is $70-120

      There's unlikely to be room, plus standard mounting over the CPU won't work. You'll need something compatible with the standoffs built into the case. This will likely be a challenge to find. You're better off with a good air cooler(Look at previous comments for a recommendation that works with this)

      3) Ram

      16GB is sufficient for just gaming Going to dual channel makes minimal performance impact.
      32GB is probably recommended. Going above 32GB, or even 16gB, unless you have a specific use is not a good use of money.

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