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Yeah, think I'll grab that. Give my homeassistant box a little upgrade
Of note, n97 is more powerful, and newer. Odd naming convention.
If you don't mind paying $40 more there are machines with double the RAM and double the storage that are still on sale.
Any thoughts on a mini to replace a old PC for browsing and basic documents?
I've looked at most main ones (N95, N100, N150, S12) and most seem like they would do the job. Was planning for 16GB, wifi6, and ~500GB storage and likely landing on the N100.
Any of these would work but so would the Intel 8th/9th gen Lenovo/Dell/HP micros that often pop up and for less money.
@Orrelljet: I don't know if the 8th/9th gen lenovo/dell/hps have a tpm module for windows 11 compatibility, maybe someone else does?
Apparently the DDR5 versions performs a lot better in some applications
I have both an N100 w/ 16GB DDR4 and N100 w/ 12GB DDR5 running Win11. The DDR5 model does seem snappier. Not sure if's a placebo.
Interesting… The average cas latency of ddr5 is actually slower than ddr4 in most cases from what I found on desktop PC when I upgraded from ddr4 to ddr5.. At the time, cas latency of 10ms or less ram was cheap on ddr4 and similar priced ddr5 in comparison usually had 12ms or higher. Is it opposite with sodimm ram? (shrugs)
Yes I believe that is true, but I should have clarified the N100 I use has LPDDR5 (soldered to the motherboard) and not sodimm.
I read somewhere (when researching N100 mini PCs) that while LPDDR5 has a higher numerical cas latency than DDR4 SODIMM, the higher clock speeds of LPDDR5 typically result in lower real-world (effective) latency.
While it's nice to have a "quicker" ram, my use case has been low power consumption which is key for these little beasts.
Would this be good to run a proxmox?
Can this handle Photoshop and Lumina smoothly?
I would say doubt it. Punchier machines sometimes struggle with Photoshop and Lumia. Compare to those these are basic machines with mobile processor, good for all day to day needs like office chrome etc or media server stuff.
I'd go for a Techfast machine. They come up on here and occasionally with a $688 Intel 12400f / 4060 graphics in small form factor that would be a perfect Adobe machine.
This is not really suitable as content creation device beyond the office suite applications.
emulating ps3, switch?
Definitely not. Source: I have one.
What framerates do you achieve in each?
The 6th gen i3's can almost manage it, so im shocked these can't.
if it's not realtime 30fps or more, then usually it's not worth emulating. Why play someone as a slideshow? It will handle some 2D switch games with no issues, PS2 and Wii is not an issue either.
@gizmomelb: Exactly, thats why I was asking. 6th gen i3 mobile chips in NUCs manages 18~22fps on those consoles, so im surprised the n95 isnt a huge leap ahead.
The 12th gen iGPU is notably faster.
Word of warning, I have one of these. As with most, I immediately re-installed Windows 11 but had so much hassles finding the drivers, I reached out to support. Even though their website has a page for the drivers, after installing all of them, I still had 5 devices not being recognised.
After supplying a detailed ticket to their support, albeit fast response, the support guy said he can't help with the drivers and suggested I simply download their standard image of Windows 11.
My son was using Roblox Studio on it and it was not great. Will install Linux on it and see if it's any better.
Thanks, was going to do a fresh install, so no good for me.
How do you expect their compromised hardware to operate properly if you're going to install a genuine OS
Think McFly think
buying any PC it is absolutely recommended that you install the O/S yourself - just to be certain there are no hidden programs somewhere in the 'factory' installation.
Like you did with your phone. Right?
Apples and oranges chump. Though with my older android phones, yes I did install custom firmware. For both mobiles and pcs I also install anti-malware apps and disable the factory installed apps (eg: Samsung being the worst imo). It's about being the most pro-active security wise that I can, hence the recommendation to format and install the O/S yourself on a new PC (and yes, I'm aware of BIOS malware, which is why I won't buy a second hand modern PC).
@gizmomelb: You cannot be certain there isn't a bootkit/loader. On any device. If you didn't make the hardware. This is paranoia.
@Ademos: Only thing is with Samsung, Apple etc. there is a lot of consumer goodwill at stake to the brand if they blatently ship with malware/compromised (more so than a smart phone already is).
That doesnt exist with these cheap all in ones as the customer is loyal to the price.
@buffalo bill: It doesn't matter. You don't know supply chain controls. Can I interest you in a pager?
@Ademos: so by your reasoning, instead of taking any steps towards security, it's better to take none because it is who knows compromises may be built in and it's a waste of time? sounds like something a ccp/cccp stooge would say :D /s
@gizmomelb: No, just that it's absolutely not recommended that you "install the O/S yourself", in general, and it absolutely does not give you any certainty that there are no "hidden programs". This is hysterical nonsense.
Windows is the most compromised OS in existence. If someone wants something of you, personally, specifically, they will get it in seconds.
@Ademos: so again.. doing nothing is better than doing something. got it. you know all. Everyone running Windows head ademos' advice and leave your computers on with no protection, since they're going to be compromised anyway. Personally I'll be glad when school goes back.
@gizmomelb: Hey, look, it's okay to be wrong.
You were wrong about the standard advice being given.
You were wrong about the action taken giving you any assurance that the device would not longer be compromised.
You can learn today, or not. That's up to you.
But you can't keep on going on pretending to be an expert, unfortunately. Apologies.
@Ademos: Standard advice still applicable, especially if someone is buying a cheap device from overseas which has an activated windows 11 pre-installed. Format and re-install your own O/S. It'll be safer than leaving your PC with no protection, which is what @ademos recommends. But follow whatever works for you, it's not my data which will be compromised.
@gizmomelb: It is not standard advice. Please stop pretending to be an expert. A vast minority of the population is re-installing windows, and if it's a compromised device, that won't help you.
Hmm N100 model looks good for $46 more after coupon. Double RAM and SSD as well.