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[VIC] Audi Q7 MY19 Audi Q7 160KW (45TDI) $84,990 Drive-away (RRP $101,900) @ Audi Doncaster

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Audi Q7 run-out
Drive away from $84,990*
Receive unprecedented pricing on all new and demonstrator MY19 Audi Q7 models.

Drive away from $84,990* and we will also include:
5 years/ 75,000km (whichever comes first) complimentary servicing^
5 years extended warranty#.

Offer only available May 1 - June 30.

Pricing is based on MY19 Audi Q7 160KW (45TDI) Variant with no factory options. Price may vary dependant on accessories and options fitted on in-stock vehicles. ^5 years from the date of first registration or 75,000kms (whichever occurs first). Complimentary Scheduled Servicing provided at Audi Dealerships only. Excludes wear and tear items and any additional work or components required. #5-year extended warranty consists of 3 year manufacturer warranty and 2 year Audi extended warranty. Available on selected new and demonstrator MY19 Audi Q7 vehicles in stock at Audi Centre Doncaster (offer excludes SQ7) purchased between 01/05/2020 and 30/06/2020 and delivered by 30/06/2020. Not available to fleet, gov’t or rental buyers, or with any other offers. Audi Centre Doncaster may withdraw, change or extend these offers. While stock lasts.

Im in the market for a nice SUV, as the wife demands. Understand this is the old model, but I don't mind it, as I was shopping second hand anyway. This offer is actually cheaper than some of the 2nd ones on the market. This comes with 5 years warranty and servicing, which are huge advantages.

Does anyone have any experiences with the current/old Q7 model in terms of reliability and others? Thanks in advance.

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            • @thestig: "Investing isn't everything in life." You'll find that most people who spend big get sick of it very quickly and find that they are comfortable with just "average" things. Some people take longer to come to this realisation than others (i.e. for some it's towards the end of their life, for others it's much earlier). My father was one who found out this very early in life, since he had a fortunate upbringing and had very nice cars and a house in Toorak by the time he was in his 20s. Your description of the person you know sums up my dad quite well, actually.

        • +2

          Funny that the stig talks about investment…

          I was like that up until about a year ago, driving a crap car, investing in houses/investment properties, etc. Some personal events happened in the last year, after which I started to learn about what you just said: "Investing isn't everything in life".

          Hence I am considering a big purchase that is not a house now.

          • @Donkeyface: Spending like you're going to drop dead at 50 is silly because few people die at 50. You have to assume that you'll live until at least 90 these days. Also, if you have descendents, you want to leave them something when you go, regardless of what age that may be. You also seem to think, for some reason, that spending money equals happiness. A person can be entirely content/happy living a minimal existence. Only people who are concerned with keeping up with others generally spend lots of money on material things. Spending large amounts of money just for the sake of spending is silly, buying an expensive car just because you can "afford it", generally makes no sense unless you're a car enthusiast or cars are your passion. In that case, then yes go out and spend 100k or 200k, because that's something that makes you happy. But someone who loves cars doesn't go and buy an Audi Q7.

            • +1

              @AussieZed: I think you are giving a piece of good general advice to everyone, me included. I would give the same advice to others as well.

              You could refer to my reply a few threads above of a brief situation I'm in.

              I have no plan to take finance on the car. So instead of buying a car, I might consider buying another investment property or some shares for the long term, and I consider I have already had a good amount of both things right now and well on my plan for retirement in 20 years time.

              I guess what I am trying to say is that I start to understand I need to live a little more. For example, driving a 4wd up the mountain this snow season in comfort, instead of the old hatchback, in which the gears nearly fit.

        • He dropped dead at 50

          One parson is hardly statistically significant. For the other 9 people who live until 85yo with hardly any super because they bought a Q7 at 30 for $85k rather than a $45k SUV. I'd say the suffering of the other 9 is the hidden poverty story.

          • -4

            @netjock: And guess what, I bet the relatives or children of that person who died at 50 were thankful that he had so much saved up, because they would have received a handsome inheritance. Had he spent it all, they'd have got far less.

          • +2

            @netjock: So you're saying there is nobody on Ozbargain who can possibly afford to buy this car and still have enough super to live comfortably so people should tell everyone that they should not be buying this car?

            • @thestig: Nope. I am not saying that nobody can afford it. I am saying the price different to another car would make a difference to some people and we never know.

              Also dying at 50 is unlikely for majority of people and so is having multi millions for most people. Therefore small amounts might matter more between a basic vs comfortable retirement.

              It is good conversation / advice. People can read what they want. If they are making $40k and want to buy an $80k car I am not concerned. Just good conversation / advice to have people think of the whole picture.

            • +3

              @thestig: Would be nice if people stopped assuming that the OP can barely afford an 85k car, and that it would ruin his retirement.

        • If you can save, 20% of your income or invest 10%. You will be better off than most people

      • One of my best mates is a multi-millionairre, owns boats and houses in a couple of countries. Daily driver is a clapped out old Toyota ute that he bought off a tradie for peanuts. Outwardly, looks like the stereotypical frugal chap. Reality is though that he owns a factory in Moorabbin to store his sports car collection. He goes to the Vegas auctions and imports sports cars that he either keeps in the underground garage at this Beach Rd house or rotates to and from his storage factory. Outwardly frugal, the ute is handy for transporting things around and he gets around in regular jeans and running shoes but when he wants to drive he has all sorts of ostentatious cars like Ferrari, Lotus and TVRs etc

        • In Left hand drive from Vegas auctions?

          • @[Deactivated]: Yep, turned up at my place last week in a De Tomaso Panterra, LHD

            • @2ndeffort: He’s not going to be driving any modern cars in the street with LHD

        • Okay, that's all interesting, but how does it relate to this? I don't get if you're trying to encourage or discourage people from buying a car like this?

          • @AussieZed: responding to thestig's comment above that quotes: "Don't judge how someone chooses to spend their hard earned coin or assume they are taking on debt, etc because you either don't have the coin or choose to spend it differently" and then "I know someone who never went on holidays, never drove nice cars, never lashed out on anything for himself, lived in a basic house and put every cent into saving deposits and then paying off his mortgages on 5 investment properties. He dropped dead at 50 with 6 properties worth almost $4m, hardly any debt and over $1m in his Super. Investing isn't everything in life" by using an example about another atypical person that I know who has non stereotypical car ownership and who is also very well off.

            • @2ndeffort: I see. That person sounds like someone who has an interest in cars, so it's not really comparable. The majority of the population (I'd say close to 99%) actually have very little to no interest in cars. They couldn't in a million years tell you how many kW their car has, or probably even what country it's built in. These are the types of people who should just buy what they need, and not spend big amounts like this. I mean, if I'm not interested in jewellery, why should I go out and spend thousands on diamonds? It would just make no sense.

    • +1

      The number of envious losers commenting on this post is astounding

      Someone with an opinion of others just like the rest of us.

  • -1

    I'm guessing this is 2020 build date?

  • +2

    I came here for the following comments:

    High yield investment
    Thanks OP bought X
    Price match at officeworks?

  • +1

    Would definitely buy had I not spent my money on power bank in last deal

  • Thanks bought 10, good high-yield investment option for me.

  • Its not a high yield investment. And you will definitely lose money on a brand new car.

    But if you can afford and you are serious about your driving, you will enjoy and appreciate every damn kilometer.

    • I think the joke went over your head :)

  • +2

    I’d have to agree with the ‘feeing’ factor of an Audi…. or other solid refined ‘luxury’ car….does it make financial sense, not really which is why we replaced our stolen A6 with a MY18 Cr-v being someone else’s problem for 7 years. It’s nice enough, it does the job, roomy, CarPlay etc….and if it has an issue it’s off to Honda to fix instead of me scouting the internet for affordable euro parts to ship from Germany / USA etc.
    iIf you are seriously considering a new 85k car though and want driving luxury and the ‘feel’ most cheaper cars will not compare, Is the feel worth it? Only OP can know. Having 371000k on my beloved and now tatty Land Rover Discovery 3 I’d absolutely buy one again (but also again look for a ‘bargain’ like mine was at 30k in 2008 when she was 3 years old. GFC 1 car sell off deal. A used euro can make sense if your getting out of the nasty new car depreciation cliff and get years of reliable motoring ….if unlucky…. well make sure you source your own parts. Example oil pump for land rover Australian price $1200, or shipped over from the UK for $200 (OEM). Key fob $700 vs $290, wiper blades double because they say LR instead of Bosch (same thing). Do your homework and enjoy the project vs expecting cheap motoring and it’s ok. Stralers could pretty much afford to give you a lux euro car if you agreed to pay their parts and service pricing for the life of the car, but it doesn’t have to be that way.

    • Can agree. Had a thermostat that cost $60 in the UK. Locally the dealer wanted $300 and it was a 4 week wait for it to go from Germany to Singapore to Oz.

    • Why not get a Japanese or Korean luxury car then?
      I know infiniti is gone but there's still second hands.
      Then there's genesis.
      And of course Lexus.

      I don't think anyone is buying a Q7 because how it drives and feels on the road, I agree that perceived cabin quality, nvh and quiet ride are a thing but to say a Q7 is a driver's car is not the right statement.

  • I will get the deal If they can do buy one get one free.

  • ^ stealers / dealers. And look, for the high rollers by all means, they let the shop do everything because time researching car parts is time that could be better spent acquiring corporations and negotiating company board mutinies etc … it’s all relative. Just don’t always believe every Euro car will cost 3 times more to own than a Toyota. Sometimes.

    • stealers = dealers. you got it 100% mate, perfect!

  • No worries ill buy 10

  • How many $10 Oporto Chickens can I load in the boot?

  • What advantages does this motorcar have over say, a train? Which I could also afford

    • This is much cheaper than buying a train

  • +2

    Wife and I have 2 Audi's, a Q5 and a Q7 both with the 3.0 diesel. We bought both used. Here are some thoughts.

    1) They depreciate like crazy. The Q5 is a 2013 and I paid the lady 80K less than she bought it for 5 years earlier. The Q7 was half the price of an equivalent year and km Prado GXL which is how I first got into these.
    2) Audi service is a joke. I get that this includes service but they want over $800 for what is an over-glorified oil change. Needless to say I don't take the cars there ever.
    3) The 3.0 diesel has carbon build-up issues in the air manifold. It doesn't seem to cause any major issues but I suspect on both I'll need to do an expensive clean on them at some point. They often end up with a bit of an intermittent shimmy at idle.
    4) I hate how people treat us. I used to drive a Honda. Nobody cared. I miss that.
    5) They can have little electrical issues. The Q5 hasn't had any yet but when I bought the Q7 I had a few issues I needed to work through.

    They really are nice driving cars. When you compare the Q7 against its rivals for driving it's pretty hard to beat and it can still tow like crazy.

    Would I buy a new one? Never.
    Will I buy another one. Yeah maybe. As a competitor to the Q7 I'll consider a Ford Everest next time.

    • +1

      As a competitor to the Q7 I'll consider a Ford Everest next time.

      I think you will be sorely disappointed by how bad the Everest looks on the inside compared to the Q.

      • +1

        Yep, it's pretty bad.

        • its american style

    • +1

      Nice info. Sounds like it has been reliable enough to you.

      I might hold off for a good second-hand car. I will definitely go independent for servicing if not buying new.

    • "When you compare the Q7 against its rivals for driving it's pretty hard to beat and it can still tow like crazy."

      This is a good point. If towing is ever going to be important to you, then the Q7 blows away other similar vehicles. You need a "proper" 4WD to get anywhere near it.

    • +1

      Your point about the Prado is interesting but probably understanable. I have a Prado and will have no worries about it doing 400k KMs with basic maintenance and maybe a few minor repairs, also knowing major repairs aren't likely and aren't horrendously expensive if they are needed. I would be getting nervous around 150k with the Q5 I think.

      • If it was the Q5 2.0 TSI I'd agree that I'd stay away from the Q5 but the 3.0L TDI are regularly are doing 400K+ in Europe. I have 165K on mine right now and it hasn't had a single repair. Just oil, brakes and tires. I'm more worried about little electrical issues popping up though they are generally pretty easy to fix.

        When we bought the Q7 I was pretty determined to buy a Prado. I hired a mechanic to go over the Q7 and we had a discussion about what would have to go wrong to make up the difference in price. We couldn't come with anything so I bought the Q7. That's not knocking the Prado…great car but for what people charge for used you are almost better buying a new one.

        • With the Q7 out of warranty, I would be worried about finding a qualified mechanic to fix the electrical issues (which will come eventually).
          It's just unfortunate that the Ozzy mechanics are rather bad when it comes to the trickier electrical issues.
          I already decided to set fire to my car when the first electrical-issue comes on on the dashboard :)

          • @ocoolio: They are honestly a piece of cake to work on. They are built like lego and the faults can be tracked using a $200.00 or less code reader.

            Here in Perth there are a couple of Audi specialists that are fairly reasonable.

            • +1

              @nformone:

              Here in Perth there are a couple of Audi specialists that are fairly reasonable.

              Any recommendations?

              • @daitro: VA Technic in Osborne Park. They are ex Audi folks.

    • Do yourself a favour and buy a Prado next time. You’ll have as many issues with the Ford as the Audi.

  • Another 10-15% off?

  • Add me as another suffering the Audi quality/reliability experience. $4.5k later after a DSG fault, petrol pump faults, water in dash… and too many gremlins to mention that was a no end of frustration… and cost
    Drives well when running but poorly designed to be this reliable.
    My parent’s car was and is constant fixture at the service shop. My brother’s fairs slightly better but also has repeated faults That should not be for the $$$$ paid. The quality isn’t there.
    Good luck to anyone going that way.

    • which audi did you get?

      • A6 mine, A3 my folks’, S4 my bro.

  • Can it fit 35s with no lift?

  • +1

    I hope I can afford it LAMO

  • bargain, got 2

  • Seem to be a few experienced Q7 drivers here… Since I'm also in the market and this is on my list, what's the opinion on the optional air suspension ? Is it just a nice to have ? Because based on the second hand market not many seem to have been optioned with it…

    • +1

      I can only comment on the air suspension version. It's very smooth and great on rough roads. We have a 2017 Q7 fully optioned including night vision and 4 wheel steering to name a few. We towed a 3T caravan around the country, around 30-35 thousand kms. It now has 105k on the clock and is a great car. Have taken it to Fraser island and done some other 4w driving. Air suspension is a must for off road because you get better ground clearance if you lift it. One road that we drove, the Mereenie Loop was so rough with corrugations that the axel on our new 3t van fell of. Car never missed a beat.

    • 4L model without bags. Solid , not bouncy with 21” rims.
      Much better than GLE 400d I was testing on 20” rims.

      I dont do any offroad tho with this Q7.

  • -4

    How much does one have to earn to comfortably afford to own this car? 400k a year?

  • +1

    Good price but too many cable ties in the pack

  • +3

    In the time it took me to read this thread the car already depreciated 40%.

  • Toyota etc are great value, but if you're just looking for a runabout you can't go past a Great Wall. Nobody wants them so they're cheap as chips and very reliable. I got a 2nd hand 3year old 4WD with 60k on the clock for $5k at an auction. Drove it for 5 years, 190,000km, and sold it for $3k.
    That's 2k depreciation, maybe $1.5k in tires, brakes, 1 battery.
    That's $3500 for 5 years of motoring.

    Don't get me wrong, it's a piece of underpowered shit but it's total peace of mind. Don't need to worry about scratches or dents, Just keep changing that oil and it's amazing value. I had always planned to just drive it until it died but that damn thing just wouldn't and I got a sweet deal on something else.

    • do you have any other basis for the supposed reliability on Great Wall other than your anecdotal experience?

      • +1

        No, nor could I be bothered to investigate. The only other input I can offer is from a) a mechanic who said he serviced plenty but rarely repaired and b) an RACQ guy who helped me unlock it once who said he very rarely got callouts for them.

        To be clear, I drive gently at all times which no doubt added to its life but even if it had broken down a few times and required new parts….it would still be a value proposition for the right driver.

    • +1

      not everybody wants to drive a bomb that smells like dead cat

  • +4

    Funny to hear all the people with no money complaining and comparing this to inferior cars based on price.

  • Three pages of comments already!

  • Wow at that price I'll buy 4.

  • +1

    I purchased 2018 model on run out in mid 2019, 160kw - i got wheels, tow bar, sunroof and comfort package for 87500 drive away RRP130k. great car, very large and comfortable. with 5 yrs warranty and 5 yr servicing, i would say go for it. we only got 3 years at the time. The same segment in BMW and Merc would be 100-110k minimum. Unless you wait for the gensis GV80 - i think would be full specd 200kw at less than 100k.

    • Do you feel the 160kw is under-powered in any way?

      Great info. I guess there is still room to negotiate.

      • +1

        It would be nice to have the 200kw. But at the time it was a little over 10k more which wasn't in our budget. If you can swing it, go 200kw, otherwise the 160kw is perfectly fine. We are really happy, especially just how big it is.

        • Thanks. I might try some hard bargain, knowing the prices you got! Failing that, maybe the GV80 is worth the wait?

          • @Donkeyface: Our Price was because of the stop sale they had due to a sensor issue. Saw the gv80 in person, looks good. But who knows the cost or release date. Depends how quick you need it.

  • +1

    Audinary

  • -1

    I would look at Merc GLS or Lexus LX570 instead of Q7. Audi's are not made to last. Go read up on the reputation of Q7. Not only they are unreliable, the dealer will rip you off while they are at it.

    and in my opinion, Audi's are for the pretentious because 90% of the owners financed the purchase. LOL!

    • +3

      I see you have never owned one. No finance here LOL

      • same, i paid outright for it

      • -1

        You are right, I have never owned one. Good on you for paying it outright. Interest rates for cars are outrageous.

        I ended up with a Mercedes, and compared to my mates Q7, I think I am spent way less time and money at the dealership. Not saying it is a great car, but if i have my choice again, I may go for the LX if I can get over the look and ancient interior.

        • Under 4% is outrageous?

    • Probably because most are through a business for potential tax purposes.

      My friend worked at BMW, and not 1 M3 they sold in the 2 years she was there wasn't through a business.

  • +1

    School buses cost 100K now?

  • +2

    How to make a small fortune? Start with a large one and buy a Q7.

  • Dealers in Sydney were selling the 200kw model for that price 8 months ago!

  • well be aware of the plastic waterpump in those 2.0t EA888 engines.

    I own a 2015 b8.5 audi a4 2.0t quattro. Expansion tank cracked, Air con not working and waterpump leaking. All happening just before the 5 yr warranty expires. Never again

    • It's a 3.0. Wrong engine.

      • yes those 3.0 should be fine.

  • This or a mint condition VL Calais Turbo?

    • +1

      One will continue to appreciate and one will immediately depreciate. They are for very different buyers though

  • Dude, there’s plenty of deals for these cars at the moment if you negotiate.

    Car sales has come to an halt. I’ve recently purchased a “demo” 2018 BMW that retailed for 110k for 55k.

    I enquires in Jan for the same car and they wouldn’t budge under 65k.

    After watching the carsales.com.au notification showing monthly price drops, I went in with a punt 10k lower than my last offer and they took the bait.

    Don’t go anywhere near retail in today’s market.

    • It's funny how Skoda are second and share many parts and from the same VW family. Go figure. I have both and find them very similar in reliability.

      Scored well here

      https://www.carsguide.com.au/car-advice/how-reliable-will-yo….

      You can always find what you're looking for online.

      • +2

        Whilst it's true that Skoda have some common VAG parts, you can't tell me that Skoda has all the fancy latest tech from Audi (otherwise the joke will be that Audi is just a fancy Skoda). This is where Skoda cars will be more reliable than its fancier sister Audi. An example being the Q7 3.0 TDI engine. Is there a Skoda running that engine?

        Also did you go deeper into the details of your carsguide article about 4 star rating for Audi?

        The Canstar Blue award that is mentioned in there, I have studied it before, and it's not that great. Here's the page on the formal result:

        https://www.canstarblue.com.au/vehicles/reliability/

        "Best-Rated for New Car Reliability

        If you’re really looking to see where brands were rated in terms of reliability, here is a further breakdown on the results:

        1st Mitsubishi Motors
        2nd Toyota
        3rd Kia
        4th Mazda
        5th Suzuki
        6th Mercedes
        7th Subaru
        8th Hyundai
        9th Honda
        10th Volkswagen
        11th Nissan
        12th Holden
        13th Audi
        14th Ford
        15th BMW"
        

        Then the result for the US JD power study which has Audi doing a bit better relatively. However you will find that the result there is for the current "reliability" rating which is based on report in the first 90 days of ownership, not to be confused with JD Power Dependability rating which is after 3 yrs of ownership, where Audi's result is below industry average

        https://www.jdpower.com/business/press-releases/2020-us-vehi…

  • Right before the price jack, yeah nice try Audi, we see you

  • +5

    For those that are going to take advantage of this deal. I used to work at Audi and I can assure you Doncaster won't offer the best deal as they are under the Penfolds umbrella. The trick is to go to the Audi dealership owned by the bigger groups like Audi Richmond and Audi Melbourne which are owned by the Zagame group.

    At most you should get a quote from Doncaster and go to Richmond or the city and they'll price beat it.

    Goodluck.

  • +1

    Time to Push those high yield invest Benz into a river to make room for these, what are they Tiguans?

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