[WA] GWM Ora EV Extended Range $29,990 Driveaway ($26,490 after $3500 WA ZEV Rebate) @ GWM, Wanneroo

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[WA] GWM Ora EV Extended Range $29,990 Driveaway ($26,490 after $3500 WA ZEV Rebate) @ GWM, Wanneroo
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Lzenandgary on 22/11/2024 - 01:11 wagwm.com.au (1601 clicks)
Last edited 22/11/2024 - 13:40 by 2 other users

My local GWM dealer is having a runout sale of New and Demo GWM Ora. I asked and was told they had around 120 units at that price. You will need to contact them for availability and colours.

Note: Please disregard their website page that shows the Extended range at $34,990. It's out of date. I bought one a few weeks ago so I can confirm the $29,990 is correct.

The new price is $29,990 Driveaway and if you live in WA you can apply for the $3500 ZEV rebate which is available until May 2025. That effectively brings the car price down to $26,490 which is a steal. They also have some "Demo" vehicles available with 20kms on them which really is a new vehicle that they have registered and received the ZEV rebate for already. This may be an option for interstate buyers who can't get the rebate.

Comes with the usual GWM 7 Year warranty and 7 Years roadside assistance.

Being electric servicing costs are low at $99 every 20,000Kms

ZEV Rebate info here: https://www.transport.wa.gov.au/projects/zero-emission-vehic…

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Comments

  • Ezekiel2320 on 22/11/2024 - 01:34
    +1

    Shame it doesn't support V2G or it'd be worth buying and parking just for the 60kWh battery

    • turkz1 on 22/11/2024 - 01:39
      +3

      Even if it did support v2g how would it be worth parking just for the battery? Where would you sell the energy to make up the $26,490 exactly?

      • juns on 22/11/2024 - 08:50
        +1

        If you didn't know, it cost at least 6k for 10kWh battery (not including installation) for a home battery.

        60kWh would cost you 36k. It's no brainer if that vehicle is capable of V2G, because you get home battery solution that happens to be able to transport you as well.

        • netjock on 22/11/2024 - 09:20

          Where would you sell the energy to make up the $26,490 exactly?

          Their maths is sound if it fell from a magic money free. Best part is there is people who went to same school.

        • turkz1 on 22/11/2024 - 09:50

          When you connect a battery to the grid the capacity is only a fraction of the equation mate. The response speed and instantaneous power are where the money is at. PW2 is 13.5kWh but it can only provide 5kW of power so it’s accounted for and paid out as a 5kW asset in the grid. Just because you have 60kWh of storage does not mean there’s 60kWh of value you can sell at peak because you simply can’t export 60kWh fast enough it would take 8 hours.

          • juns on 22/11/2024 - 09:57
            +1

            @turkz1: I'm replying in case someone is actually crazy enough thinking about buying a car just to buy electricity at super off peak and selling at peak.

            Just because you have 60kWh of storage does not mean there’s 60kWh of value you can sell at peak because you simply can’t export 60kWh fast enough it would take 8 hours

            Neither should you. Even assuming if the battery is LFP, it is not recommended to drop the charge level below 20%, and fully selling the energy back to the grid means you lose the benefit of home battery.

    • zenandgary on 22/11/2024 - 01:40
      +3

      I get what you mean, but why just park it? It's actually quite fun to drive and extremely frugal. At $0.28 a unit it will cost you $16.80 for 420kms or if you have excess Solar which you would only get $0.02 per unit then you could get 420kms of range for just $1.20

      • windwai on 22/11/2024 - 01:48
        +1

        because solar battery is like $800 per kw atm.

        • netjock on 22/11/2024 - 09:23
          +2

          Now you know why the resistance of V2H or V2G. Why let you plug in your car when you can make money 3 ways.

          1. Get cheap feed in and resell at a great margin
          2. Sell you a battery
          3. Sell you a car

          If they let you plug in your car they might only get 2 cuts (not sell you a battery because during day time the solar covers all your usage)

          It is exactly the same reason why they don't have grid level battery storage because why have it when they pay you nothing or even charge you from 12 - 2pm for feed in. Until excess solar becomes deeply negative they aren't going to invest in grid level batteries just like homes won't due to poor payback.

          • turkz1 on 22/11/2024 - 09:47

            @netjock: Who is they?

            • netjock on 22/11/2024 - 11:18

              @turkz1: who is who?

              • turkz1 on 22/11/2024 - 12:16

                @netjock:

                they let you plug in
                they don't have grid level battery storage
                they pay you nothing

                Who is they m8?

      • netjock on 22/11/2024 - 09:20

        but why just park it?

        Single tracked minded people.

    • killingtime on 22/11/2024 - 05:56
      +2

      Which car at any price actually supports this? You're talking about what is currently vaporware

      • maso on 22/11/2024 - 07:53

        Nissan Leaf.

        All CHaDEMO cars support V2G.

        The problem is that you've then got a car that uses CHaDEMO, but if you've got a place to charge at home (likely, if you're planning on using it as a stationary battery) then it's not too much of an issue.

        • turkz1 on 22/11/2024 - 08:17

          And you’d be power cycling your leaf for a $0.02 feed in tariff?

          • netjock on 22/11/2024 - 09:19
            -1

            @turkz1: You're a genius from all your comments. No point giving away free financial advice.

            • turkz1 on 22/11/2024 - 09:38
              +1

              @netjock: I’m here to listen mate I am clearly missing something. Why don’t you educate me on why V2G in 2024 is not anything other than vaporware? SA V2G is a trial. There is no scaled V2G solution on CCS2 / Type 2. There’s no DNSP that will take it on. There’s no retailer willing to buy the energy back for other than FiT. So why don’t you tell me what I don’t know and explain how this can work exactly.

              • netjock on 22/11/2024 - 09:42

                @turkz1: Spreadsheet maybe?

                • turkz1 on 22/11/2024 - 09:43

                  @netjock: Link one and I’ll have a detailed look and will come back with questions.

                  • netjock on 22/11/2024 - 09:43
                    -1

                    @turkz1: Don't give free financial advice

                    • turkz1 on 22/11/2024 - 09:44

                      @netjock: An armchair expert who wants to charge? This is ozb m8 we’re big on value. Chuck me a free sample of your wisdom.

          • juns on 22/11/2024 - 09:49
            +1

            @turkz1: I think the miscommunication here is when people say V2G they might actually just need the V2H

            • turkz1 on 22/11/2024 - 09:56

              @juns: 100% onboard with this mate but the V2H value stack isn’t great either. PW3 is going for $12k in NSW at the moment and you get credits with your retailer, instantaneous and always available home backup and a battery that you can cycle til it’s dead without any other quality of life impact.

              For V2H you’d need to spend $10k on a bidirectional charger for the privilege of cycling your car daily and drawing down its life and utility. So you’d spend the same money as a home battery and leave your car plugged in all day to soak solar and all night to provide power all while reducing its range and life.

              Maybe the average joe hasn’t really thought this through?

              • juns on 22/11/2024 - 10:01

                @turkz1:

                For V2H you’d need to spend $10k on a bidirectional charger

                I didn't know about that, I guess I am not surprised if AU market inflate the price. The only one I've heard is 2.5k USD.

                I guess the other thing that the top commenter is exaggerating is to simply use a car for home battery without driving it at all.

                • turkz1 on 22/11/2024 - 10:06

                  @juns: We’ll see mate but that is NACS not CCS2 and presumably heavily subsidized by the cost of the cybertruck itself. The Australian product we can use as a point of reference for price is https://www.solarquotes.com.au/blog/v2g-bidirectional-instal…

                  • juns on 22/11/2024 - 10:24

                    @turkz1: I am hoping that we'll eventually have a competitive price in Australia.

                    Based on your link, it seems to use chademo example. Would you happen to know if the chademo bidirectional setup runs its own inverter?

                    My knowledge in chademo space is almost nil.

                    • turkz1 on 22/11/2024 - 12:14

                      @juns: This has only ever been deployed in Oz via chademo that's why all the V2G material available is on the Leaf or Outlander PHEV. AFAIK it runs its own inverter. The guys behind the Quasar are tested v2 in europe now on CCS2 so it will eventually come to market but they still expect it to cost 10-12k.

                      • juns on 22/11/2024 - 12:16
                        +1

                        @turkz1: That's interesting. What I don't understand is, why does the bidirectional connector need to have its own inverter when the car has a powerful inverter already.

                        • turkz1 on 22/11/2024 - 12:22

                          @juns: Also not my area of expertise admittedly but it seems all solutions put the inverter in the charger not the car. I suspect the onboard inverters in the cars are only capable of AC>DC but not DC>AC. If you look at solar inverters you can infer that DC>AC inverters need a lot of space and generate a lot of heat. I presume this cannot be contained in cars without substantial cost and weight.

                          • juns on 22/11/2024 - 12:24

                            @turkz1:

                            I suspect the onboard inverters in the cars are only capable of AC>DC but not DC>AC

                            I don't think that's true, or at least for V2L capable cars. They have got to be DC>AC inverters built-in the car, but I guess it's a matter of how big it is.

                            Maybe it is like you said, tesla only allow it for cybertruck because it's the only one with big enough DC>AC inverter onboard.

                            • turkz1 on 22/11/2024 - 23:19

                              @juns: You're right but V2L is very low output. Usually 3kW or so. Nowhere near the charge rate of the car.

              • kale chips suck on 22/11/2024 - 10:04
                +1

                @turkz1: Many people near where I live will buy electric cars when V2H is doable - and the standard has been ratified, so now it can begin - so that when storms take down trees that take the power grid offline for days to weeks, they can run their homes from the car.

                No-one I've spoken to is remotely interested in buying a EV with V2x to play tariff games with the grid. It's about keeping the fridge cold and the lights on when the grid isn't there….

                • turkz1 on 22/11/2024 - 10:08

                  @kale chips suck: And I fully support it mate. Even picking up a Kia EV5 or EV9 with V2L will be enough to run the fridge in a pinch. All I’m saying is for most people the math stacks up better to buy a home battery today than to invest in V2H due to the infra cost and yet everyone is asking for V2H/G and those same people are rejecting home batteries.

                  • netjock on 22/11/2024 - 11:20

                    @turkz1: From the person who lives in the now.

                    • turkz1 on 22/11/2024 - 12:11

                      @netjock: From the person who lives fully electrified in 2024 on planet earth mate. Not someone with a half baked theory and not a single clue.

                • netjock on 22/11/2024 - 11:25

                  @kale chips suck: The turkz1 can't see pass the 2c kwh feed in tariff. It is hilarious discount rate. If you store the excess power during day time (not saying it is a permanently connected to the grid) and use it at night when it is peak rates (30c+ kwh) then the equation changes.

                  Grid issue right now is in the morning when everyone readies to go for work. Then when everyone gets home, dinner and until around 9pm. If you are home the car is home. Even better if you can plug it in during the day to take in some of the power when there is an excess.

                  • turkz1 on 22/11/2024 - 12:10
                    +1

                    @netjock: Ok mate. Let's call it 30c. So you leave your car plugged in during the day to solar soak 15kWh to power your house overnight. $4.5 a day in savings. Let's assume you can do this 250 days a year. Some days will not have excess solar as you'd know since you know everything. So you'll pay your bidirectional charger off in 9 years all while degrading the battery in your car? Great plan you should try it.

          • maso on 22/11/2024 - 19:08
            +1

            @turkz1:

            and you'd be

            No, I'm answering old mate's question.

  • zenger on 22/11/2024 - 09:11

    is this WA only? Otherwise it's around $30k for every other state.

    • zenandgary on 22/11/2024 - 09:29
      +2

      As mentioned in the post, the dealer have a few demo vehicles which are basically new, never driven and have been registered so that the dealer can claim the rebate. Those vehicles are going for $26,990 and would be available to outer state buyers. You will need to check with them.

      • averagestudent on 19/12/2024 - 22:16

        Hey Mate,
        Do you have the dealer/salesperson contact details?

        I'm based in QLD and wanting to buy one.

        Thanks

  • ipiok on 22/11/2024 - 10:40
    -1

    judging just by the dealer images, that build quality looks horrendous.

    • zenandgary on 27/11/2024 - 02:15

      I wouldn't judge it by the photos, I bought one, quality is top notch mate.

  • coxymla on 22/11/2024 - 10:57

    I think it's reasonable to claim $26490 in the title, but not "driveaway".

    Also, the ZEV rebate takes literal months to get so it's not a minor inconvenience if you really don't have the full amount.

    • zenandgary on 27/11/2024 - 02:17

      It's currently around 8 weeks turnaround. Yep it's slow but you will get it. If you can't wait then the demo is the alternative.

      • coxymla on 27/11/2024 - 10:18

        Got mine recently and it was more like 3 months.

  • racingmiku on 22/11/2024 - 18:25
    +1

    Wow! This is cheap, tempting for sure…

    • zenandgary on 27/11/2024 - 02:21
      +2

      Tempted me enough to buy one.

  • gasman70 on 07/12/2024 - 06:47

    That's crazy cheap. These are $60k-$70K in the UK.

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