Went into Aldi Point Cook town centre store earlier and saw cage eggs 600g down to $2 from $2.69.
Not sure if it's nationwide.
Cage Eggs 600g $1.99 (Was $2.69) @ ALDI
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If you can't afford to by free range, you can't afford to buy eggs.
Really sums up the people on your side of this debate.
Yup - opting to pay a few more cents and doing the right thing. What scumbags they are…
Maybe you can read what I quoted again:
If you can't afford to by free range, you can't afford to buy eggs.
I've bolded the relevant part for you.
@HighAndDry: No need for bolding - i read it, I simply disagree with your point. Pay a few more cents and do the right thing. If you disagree then no probs.
Edit - Or if you cant afford - see original comment If you can't afford to by free range, you can't afford to buy eggs
buy*
bye bye.
"If you can't afford to by free range, you can't afford to buy eggs."
or just spend your egg budget on a lesser number of free range eggs.
Guys, ignore the pro-animal cruelty trolls. (I don't mean those that buy cage eggs - I mean those who chastise people who don't in the comments.)
These are the same kind of people who spend a day at the beach and leave their rubbish behind.
These are the same kind of people who will push in at the front of a queue of traffic at the last minute.
These are the same kind of people that let their dog crap in the street and don't pick it up (if they actually bother to walk their dog in the first place.)
They're just bad people who are dissatisfied with most aspects of their life and instead of trying to make improvements to themselves, they try to drag others down to their level.
Ignore them. Let them live their miserable, loveless lives and don't engage them. We are better people than them.
Every neg serves only to illustrate my point.
Guys, ignore the pro-animal cruelty trolls.
Hahaha. Only trolls in here are from your camp.
If ya’ll just ignored this thread, it would have gotten 5~10 upvotes and got buried. But you just had to go and blow it up, so now it’s a front page, top rated bargain. Well done. So many invalid negs in here.
Sounds like you have a lot of fake outrage going on here. Have you popped over to the wooden, toy gun post to vent any of that left over “outrage”?
You sound like you need a hug.
It's okay mate, it can get better. You just need to believe in yourself.
xoxo
I don’t need a hug. I'm happy eating any eggs. I don’t care what chickens bum it comes out of.
Only people that need hugs are all the fake outrage, armchair keyboard warriors getting all #hashtag offended over eggs.
Every neg serves only to illustrate my point.
And every egg serves only to illustrate mine.
We are better people than them.
Because you eat "free range" eggs? Of course! That makes perfect sense! Do you also ride a bike to try to feel superior too?
Did you even read what I said?
I'm not better than those that don't eat free-range. I'm better than the people who go out of their way to troll those that choose to do so.
You sound like you need a hug too! Here ya go babe (っ´▽｀)っ
xoxo
I am better than you.
Of course you are, and so modest too. Why, it's clear from your comments that you're better than everyone who has a different view from you. Now just sit calmly, and that nice lady will be along with your medication shortly.
Edit: I see you edited out your "I am better than you." comment while I was responding to it. Too far over the top even for you?
@Wardaddy: Yeah, I thought so. At least one of us can reflect on our own shortcomings and admit when we're wrong.
I'd like to see OzB ban deals for caged eggs.
We are better than keeping chickens cooped up in tiny cages.
We should also ban deals featuring items made by Chinese sweatshop workers.
Like it or not, I rate human welfare way higher than the welfare of chickens.
If we start banning items due to exploitation of workers/people, there wont be many bargains listed.
Exactly my point.
Where do we draw the line?
And I honestly don't know what to say to the do-gooders who value animal life over human life.
They shouldn't drive a car because they could run animals over - even ants (yes, they're animals too!)
They shouldn't walk because they could step on one.
They shouldn't use technology because the vehicles transporting their devices to them could've run over many animals.
They shouldn't eat vegetables because the vehicles transporting their food to them could've run over many animals.
Worse, the drivers of those vehicles might not be vegan!@[Deactivated]: Remember plants feel pain too.
So cruel to eat anything.
There are even bacteria and microbes in the water you drink.
Yeah - the thing is, no one is being forced to buy anything here.
Wow so many do gooders want to ban free range eggs.
Its like Shariah Law, but with food not religion.
Are these Halal certified?
So many people trying to impose their will on others. Australia is supposed to be a free country.
If I want caged eggs, until they are made illegal I should be able to enjoy them without being harassed.
The fact that supermarkets still stock caged eggs points to the large demand for them…
I hate the keyboard activists here as much as I hate the radicalised lefties who try to push their religion-of-peace views down democratic throats.
Shhh, it’s the internet’s SJW’s virtue signalling… they are all very brave. Don’t worry, it’ll pass…
Its like Shariah Law, but with food not religion.
Hahaha good one. There are always some bad eggs in a group that enforces on what others should do.
Thanks, I go through about 2 and half dozen eggs per week. I usually buy free range but I'll take a bargain when it comes
Surely some of these Neggs are invalid?
Appropriate uses of negative vote
- Cheaper price elsewhere
Mention store or URL and price making sure to include shipping.
Defective product - The product has been recalled
- Major issue with product in that it doesn't work the way it should.
- Major issue with retailer
Didn't receive previous purchase. Example
Shipping time exceeding expected wait. Example
I don't see many of them meeting the guidelines. If we go about neg every post based on ethics, then that will open a new can of worm.
I don't see many of them meeting the guidelines.
I don't see that you've read the whole page. Please read the *
Inappropriate uses of negative vote* section.If we go about neg every post based on ethics, then that will open a new can of worm.
These guidelines (with improvements over the years) have been around for a decade or so and so far, so good!
@neil: If you're referring to this clause:
Major issue with product in that it doesn't work the way it should.
I still don't think the neg vote meets the guideline. Egg still works the way it should. It is not deseased, not roten, not expired. How it is laid, is a ethical issue. I don't see the guideline is clear enough.
@No ONE: Copy and pasted from the page:
Inappropriate uses of negative vote
Any negative vote that falls into any of these reasons will be revoked by a moderator. Negative votes for any other reason will not be removed by a moderator. These are verbatim phrases.No explanation of the vote
“Not a bargain.”
“Agree”
“SPAM”
“I don't like this deal”
“I don't think it's a good deal”
“Ditto”
“lol”
“No deal”
“No Thanks”
“Not much of a bargain, a mere promotion.”
“This is marketing” or “Marketing”
“Weird looking website” (Nothing to do with the deal)
+1
“What's good about this”
“This is an awful deal”
Incorrect or missing information in title or description
Requesting price in title.
Requesting shipping cost.
Mentioning RRP.
SPAMMY sounding title.
Misspelling or grammar issue.
Incorrect URL or coupon.
Listed as freebie.
An issue with the poster.
Disliking their avatar.
Disliking their comments or description.
Disliking their username.
Expired/Out of Stock.
Should have been posted in forums.
Pointing out that the product is a grey import.
Requiring Facebook/Twitter/G+ to access deal@neil: I’m confused, if it’s not an appropriate use of a negative vote, and also not an inappropriate use of a negative vote then which category does it fall into? Comment limbo?
@Lockedout: Whether it is appropriate or inappropriate is a moot point. The reasons given on the list are what are the ones revoked by moderators.
@neil: Lists like this could add to hundred and thousands. Any neg vote that does not meet the "appropriate use of neg vote" guideline automatically becomes invalid. "Inapproiate neg vote" section just further explains the "appropriate neg vote" guideline. Inappropriate neg vote section is a supplimentary to "appropriate neg vote" section.
But still, many neg votes reasons/message are the same:
I don't like this because they are cage eggs and cage eggs are animal cruelty.Why don't we go and add additional clause to "appropriate neg vote" section. Add "products/services that support animal/human cruelty" under "appropriate neg vote" section. It will make it much clearer and easy for everyone.
Lists like this could add to hundred and thousands.
The list is around 30 entries long based on over a decade of analysing 6,800,000 comments, negative votes, and multiple discussion threads of negative votes.
Any neg vote that does not meet the "appropriate use of neg vote" guideline automatically becomes invalid.
It's not always simple to determine what is appropriate or inappropriate as staff members aren't experts in all fields, nor do we want to spend excessive time researching. Even so, it would be hard for moderators to be consistent as there are too may variables. Thus why we have a simple list in which all moderation staff can act upon in a uniform manner.
Why don't we go and add additional clause to "appropriate neg vote" section. Add "products/services that support animal/human cruelty" under "appropriate neg vote" section. It will make it much clearer and easy for everyone.
That can be literally every product and service listed on OzBargain.
I think the most important point here is that the negative votes ARE NOT affecting the OP's ability to post, NEITHER is it restricting anyone posting ALDI deals and IT ISN'T hiding the deal from the front page or anywhere else on OzBargain. The votes only highlight issues that people have with the deal which is what the purpose of the negative vote is. You may disagree with the reason but at least the information is there for you to see.
So I'll leave everyone with this from our guidelines:
If you spot an invalid vote:
- Use the report button to notify a moderator (see below for a list of inappropriate negative votes that moderators will revoke).
- Try not to take negative votes personally.
Try not to take negative votes personally
Nah all good mate. I ain't against neg votes but how they use it against the guideline.
@No ONE: Looks to me like the takeaway from the discussion is that you can disregard the "Appropriate uses of negative vote" section and only report neg votes that fall into the "Inappropriate uses of negative vote"
- Cheaper price elsewhere
I think there is a strong correlation between people who only eat free range eggs and people who have their bags wrapped in plastic at the airport before checking in.
I'm not sure of your point…… One is about cruelty and the other is about….. What.?
Its a stereotype of the typical person who insists on only free range eggs, and then tries to impose their preferences on the rest of the country.
I could add more details, but I'd rather not get my OzB account banned.
I'm not going to neg this post even though I am not a fan of caged eggs (I don't even eat eggs generally unless it's in cooking). It would be very hypocritical of me to neg this when I happily fill up at 7/11 despite their systematic wage abuse, buy fast fashion clothes manufactured in 3WCs or eat at McDonald's with their unfair EBAs.
But hey $2 eggs, if you prefer caged eggs then good for you. Great protein.
buy fast fashion clothes manufactured in 3WCs
There are 3 toilets that manufacture fashion clothes? Wow, OzB is surely a learning experience.
3rd world countries 🙄
I only buy caged eggs. When free range eggs cost the same, post the deal I'll buy them until that day comes I'll stick with the cheapest ones.
Animal cruelty is not a deal.
Oh that's brilliant. I didn't know you could track people's hypocrisy like this!
You're not actually realising the joke is on us for believing eBay's coupons are a deal due to markups…
Which one are you referring to? The uber deals?
Nicely done!
Your reason is not an accepted reason for a negative vote.
Reported this thread to get these masses of negative votes removed. I urge everyone to do the same.
Read the reasons for removing negative votes and you'll realise you're incorrect.
Good deal nice find OP!
I wonder how people would be reacting if free range eggs could only be bought packed in drinking straws?
I like where you are going with this.
Dont buy caged eggs
You're correct, but the mods are only human.
I tried reporting these sorts of votes last time, but the mods said to leave it up to the community.It is clearly an invalid neg vote.
Why aren't the mods doing anything about this??
@[Deactivated]: LOL. Well I can't speak for the mods but reasons I can think of include:
- They don't really care (this isn't really a big issue and nobody is really being offensive).
- They don't like caged eggs themselves. A lot of people in tech lean this way.
- They're enjoying watching the 'debate' (popcorn).
- The 'debate' encourages interaction with the platform, which benefits the site.
- Technically they are 'voting guidelines' not laws.
I'm just here to have a little fun to be honest. I wouldn't worry too much about this issue. We'll all just keep buying whatever we want, provided it's available. For some of us, it's the cheapest thing, others like to pay a little more to reduce some of their burden of guilt which they're shouldering.
There's a "talk with a mod" feature somewhere if you want to ask them privately, directly.
@idonotknowwhy: The burden of guilt arises from these activists who try to intimidate and shame people for making choices different to their own.
Strong parallels with certain religious groups.
@aussietivoman: Well, I was referring to other things which make them guilty. I don't think people are really being convinced by these "activists" (Could be wrong though).
You're onto something regarding:
Strong parallels with certain religious groups.
Seems like a lot of people need something like this. In the past they had religions, but for a lot of people, these have been defeated by rationality. That leaves these political ideologies.
At least this one makes sense. Buying free ranged eggs really will improve conditions for birds as far as I can tell.
Have you seen the "ban plastic straws because they kill sea creatures" movement here?
They've been presented with the facts (Australia's landfill is sealed and doesn't leak. Most of us don't litter.) Yet they still negged a deal (I think it was half priced straws at bigw) like this.
So then we can all start posting willy nilly and get a bunch of us to upvote things, so nothing will be done? Cool.
Negative Vote
Purpose:To let others know about issues with the deal, merchant or product.
The statement "Dont buy caged eggs" doesn't do anything in relation to —
- letting others know about issues with the deal (what issues about the deal does the statement itself evidence?)
- letting others know about issues with the merchant (what issues about the merchant does the statement itself evidence?)
- letting others know about issues with the product (what issues about the product does the statement itself evidence?)
Caged eggs taste the same as free range. But if you don't want to support animal cruelty don't buy caged eggs only free range simple.
If you want to be 100% supportive against animal cruelty don't buy eggs or animal products at all. become vegan
Vegetables are plants, and plants are living organisms.
True vegans wouldn't harm an innocent living creature such as a plant.
If they had a shred of integrity they'd let themselves starve to death.
If only!
PLants feel pain
Why do you feel its OK to inflict harm on a plant but not an animal?
yeah nah
Caged eggs are a nope from me.
i bet you eat meat though
is that supposed to be a bad thing?
@neil here is a "I don't like this deal" which is listed as a reason to revoke a down vote.
Just commenting here so after midnight I know who to neg once I get my votes back again.
Gee you do-gooders make it tough with only 5 negs per day!
Mods not removing invalid downvotes are a nope from me.
What came first hypocritical mods or the eggs?
See my comment below. There are neg votes that align 100% with the guidelines showing the reason when a vote will be removed.
Further, your own rules aren't clear, and this element is included:
"When negative votes are revoked:
The community casts a number of negative comment votes to any comment by the user casting the deal votes."
There are people down voting that have their comments in the red. What is 'a number'? I see a -4, -2, and I'm on first page.
You can't cite unclear rules and say 'rules are clear in this situation' when the situation is not clear at all. I don't personally care which decision you make in this thread, however there is at least one case minimum here where a down vote is clearly in breach of rules.
There are neg votes that align 100% with the guidelines showing the reason when a vote will be removed.
Link to the comment?
The community casts a number of negative comment votes to any comment by the user casting the deal votes."
There are people down voting that have their comments in the red. What is 'a number'? I see a -4, -2, and I'm on first page.
Yes, we keep this opaque but I'm sure people can figure out the number after trial and error.
You can't cite unclear rules and say 'rules are clear in this situation' when the situation is not clear at all.
What part are you unclear about? Happy to rewrite the guidelines so they are more understandable for the community.
@[Deactivated]: As Stickman pointed out, the reasons are verbatim. Hope that helps. I will add that to the voting guidelines shortly.
Just got all 6 or so of my reports denied, with the following message:
Message:
we only remove negative votes that fall into one of the cases in the very last section of the voting guidelines; otherwise it is up for the community to decide: https://www.ozbargain.com.au/wiki/help:voting_guidelines#ina… ThanksCool, so, using own rules, an invalid negative vote is when:
" No explanation of the vote
*“I don't like this deal”
*“This is an awful deal”
*“No deal”
*“No Thanks”
"Plus the other 20 or so reasons other listed on that page.
This post is clearly “no thanks” “no deal” or “I dont like this deal”. https://www.ozbargain.com.au/comment/6855559/redir
“Refuse to buy cage and barn laid eggs” is clearly “I dont like this deal” https://www.ozbargain.com.au/comment/6855976/redir
“Neg because it’s a sucky deal” is clearly “This is an awful deal” & “I don’t like this deal” https://www.ozbargain.com.au/comment/6856183/redir
Do I need to go on? Your rules, your show.
As I said I don't care what decision you make here, but if you want to enforce rules, then enforce them. Or lock this deal and make a revision to rules etc.
This post is clearly “no thanks” “no deal” or “I dont like this deal”. https://www.ozbargain.com.au/comment/6855559/redir
the comment is
Can't believe people actually still buy cages eggs
which is not any of those. But to add, this user has added the comments:
I know it's not truely free range but still 1000% better then caged
and
Tightly packed as they may be in some huge shed they still have the ability to move around and spread their wings. There's studies for and against them but I've read the egg it self is different compared to caged.
Personally I just think it's the lesser of 2 evils and as mentioned below if they ban caged eggs hopefully it would improve the production process around egg farmingand a number of other comments.
“Refuse to buy cage and barn laid eggs” is clearly “I dont like this deal” https://www.ozbargain.com.au/comment/6855976/redir
Full comment:
Refuse to buy cage and barn laid eggs. If you see the conditions the hens spend their short lives if you continued to eat them after that I would question your moral compass. I admit, great price but I would be happy to pay double just for free range.
Again, that is none of the phrases.
“Neg because it’s a sucky deal” is clearly “This is an awful deal” & “I don’t like this deal” https://www.ozbargain.com.au/comment/6856183/redir
Neg because its a sucky dealFull comment:
I upvote cage eggs when its 5c a pack, or 50c a pack, or even a dollar a pack. In those cases, you have to weigh up the additional pain it causes against the monetary savings, and in most cases the numbers check out. But this is a 70c reduction. Who cares?
Again, none of those phrases.
Do I need to go on? Your rules, your show.
No, because you aren't reading the guidelines page. It's literally those phrases. Not a paraphrasing.
As I said I don't care what decision you make here, but if you want to enforce rules, then enforce them. Or lock this deal and make a revision to rules etc.
We are enforcing it. There seems to be a communication disconnect between what is written and what people are interpreting so perhaps we need to write them so people aren't confused. Happy to hear suggestions.
TL;DR
Negative votes will be revoked if the phrases listed are shown. Not a paraphrasing of what someone has written.
@neil: Aha, so you're saying the 'list of stuff that is required to revoke' is actually verbatim phrase, and not just a 'description of phrase'? Ok fair enough.
In that case, then yes, myself and I'm sure others have been confused, as we didn't interpret that there is the requirement for VERBATIM "I don't like this deal" etc. Perhaps re-work the section for "cases in which neg vote is revoked" to be smaller. Currently it's long, in a list, and doesn't specify that it's required to be verbatim. Also, there is the section earlier in the rules (but not in section "when we will revoke") about the "if user gets many downvotes". Maybe group that together.
But, alas, this is just the opinion of one person.
Cheers for clarification. Party on! thumbs.emoji
Ugh cage eggs. This is a terrible deal as we shouldn't be supporting unethical farming and treatment of other animals. If you can't afford to by free range, you can't afford to buy eggs.