Went into Aldi Point Cook town centre store earlier and saw cage eggs 600g down to $2 from $2.69.
Not sure if it's nationwide.
Cage Eggs 600g $1.99 (Was $2.69) @ ALDI
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@belongsinforums: So, 0 in Australia?
What are you not understanding about how ridiculous your tangent is?
@belongsinforums: I can't believe I'm entering this one lol.
I expect most of those rabies cases would come from wild/stray animals, not pets. I understand stays came often from discarded pets, but banning pets now wouldn't miraculously make strays go away.
@incipient: Ban them. Then cull rabies infected populations like we do with cattle diseases. Anyway, I was just thinking how weird it is how we can pay others to kill animals for us,and that's legal, but killing animals ourselves would probably be classified as torture and be illegal. Hunting is somewhere in the middle. It's almost like society doesn't know how to feel about consuming other living beings
@belongsinforums: While your rabies rant was… odd, I do very much agree with this:
It's almost like society doesn't know how to feel about consuming other living beings
I think you'd find that if it was a requirement that you slaughtered, or even just witness the slaughter of everything you ate, we'd have a LOT more vegetarians. I say this as a meat-eater.
@johnno07: In more rural places, this is more common. Vegetarianism is less common. It seems to be mostly a religious thing or a hipster thing.
@belongsinforums: I think some people honestly don't like it. Though more an more people are doing it for environmental reasons - which I wholeheartedly support. We'll be better off in the long run if we reduce (not necessarily remove) our meat consumption.
@johnno07: cant disagree with that. i read david suzuki's biography a few years back and that really put meat consumption in perspective for me. all science, no spiritual crap.
@johnno07: There's countries in Europe that do school excursions to slaughterhouses - Teach them at a young age where food on their plate is coming from. Australia and the US seem to keep the public unaware.
@belongsinforums: Yeah, nah. Animals are not beings. Genesis 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps upon the earth.
Ahh Yes, the origin of “the pecking order.”
Chooks are horrible, vicious creatures in a collective.
As I have heard tell it, the origins of battery cages was to control what the chooks ate, simplify egg collection, reduce food waste, reduce predation (it doesn’t eliminate it as the pythons still get them) and reduce cannibalism.The problem with cages is related to the density of chooks a cage has in them. Too small a space and they get stressed. And there is no natural chook behaviours like bathing in the dust.
However, this is not automatically solved by barns and “free” range in commercial set ups because density can be higher than cages due to the way chooks behave, predation is higher, there is less control over what they eat (including each other), and the aggressive behaviour of the hierarchical structure of your hen population. Stress is not reduced meaningfully by transferring for commercial cage to commercial “free” range.I struggle to take seriously anyone piously carrying on about factory egg production of any kind that does not have no more than half a dozen chooks of their own scratching about in their backyard, or buy from someone that does. Because that is the only way you genuinely minimise the appalling behaviour of these birds (with only a few, none of them are too far down the heirachy), and genuinely have free range eggs
Chooks are horrible, vicious creatures in a collective.
Is this not true of most animals, just a part of nature?
@entropysbane: Yep you've pretty much nailed it there ent. If unmanaged and unrestrained they are utterly disgusting creatures that make even the fowelest humans look like saints.
Brought up on a farm myself and pretty much every person that has ever had chickens quickly finds all you mentioned out.
You want to let them run free, that's fine but don't expect a healthier egg. Unwatched they will eat anything and everything. droppings, rotten stuff, fungus long dead things, even their own siblings and chicks that they sometimes kill.
After observing their gross eating habits for years. I would never eat a true free range egg again.
With mass production, the problem was mostly overcrowding but with the constant govt and greeny monitoring in western countries at least, this is strictly controlled.
At $2 a dozen myself and pretty much every farmboy will happily be loading up the trolley under the scornful eyes of the well-meaning but naive city-kids. Hell at that price, I'm more concerned for the farmers (more likely now corporations these days though)
https://www.abc.net.au/triplej/programs/hack/chickens/764569… Every egg has ethical issues if mass produced.
The quicker cage eggs go away (not just for sale to consumers, but everywhere) the better the economies of scale get for barn and free range eggs.
Article by a rabid vegan who decries all 'meat guzzlers'
Wow really convincing m8
Q: how can you tell someone is a vegan?
A: You don’t have to. They will tell you.Never gets old.
A: You don’t have to. They will tell you.
Over and over and over again. They think it makes them better than you.
The word free range is just for marketing.
Big money in those 2 words. They order a lot of eggs from the cage producers… a lot!!
[Citation Needed]
You can't believe everything that is written on the side of packages
There is no way all the free range eggs sold are all genuinely free range
The CSIRO Model Code requires 1500 birds per 10000m2, or roughly 6.5m2 per bird. About 2.5m by 2.5m. That's a damn sight better than a 30cm high cage! (granted that CSIRO number isn't legislated)
2.5m by 2.5m per bird!. That's much better than refugee camp!
I thought so called vegan people are human rights activates, are they not?
Try saying that to the deluded do-gooders who swear black and blue that free range eggs taste like waters from the purest corner of heaven.
You sure do like the term “do-gooder”.
@[Deactivated]: A desire to 'do good' is surely a good thing, right? That you use this as an insult puzzles me.
I completely own the fact that I eat meat and wear leather shoes, and in doing so I turn a blind eye to the horrors of those industries.
While we can all agree there are problems with the lack of regulation around the definition of free-range; maybe refusing to buy cage eggs is the first step to effecting change. Maybe not.
Or, because we can't fix everything all at once, we should say and do nothing.
On the other hand, buy cage eggs and enjoy the current economies of scale.
Not fair on the animals.
Check out the live cattle and sheep export trade if you are against the worst form of animal cruelty.
Nah mate can't live without meat bro.
But if they banned live exports …. more for us! Yum … meat …!
Are you saying that because there is worse cruelty we should ignore caged chickens?
As opposed to the egg industry where male chicks are macerated alive? Cruelty is cruelty and all animal agriculture is built on exploitation and suffering.
That s##t is just heart breaking.
What's really unfair is when i pretend to throw a ball and the dog chases it, but it was in my hand the whole time
I guess you're a VEGAN then.
Because exploiting poor animals for their meat, milk or plumage is fair?It's not necessarily good for the individual but it is really good for the species.
We could all learn from the matrix. Maybe we could design chicken sized VRs for them to live fulfilled lives in cages whilst we harvest their eggs? Could that satisfy both sides of the argument?
Odd to see there are always animal welfare discussions around cage eggs but not so much when it comes to meat.
Fast food (McDonalds, KFC, Domino's etc) deals are popular on this site but you won't see much discussion into animal welfare there. Why is that? Is it because some use free range eggs and that makes one forget about the meat part?
Most chicken meat found in supermarkets is produced intensively in large sheds with stocking rates of up to 20 chickens per square metre. The chickens never leave the shed and the build-up of faeces causes respiratory problems and skin to blister and burn. Foot problems are common.
https://www.choice.com.au/food-and-drink/meat-fish-and-eggs/meat/articles/buying-ethical-meat
It's like the Australia Day haters. They NEED something to complain about.
Thats because this mob are the biggest bunch of hypocrites.
'Don't eat cage eggs you idiots!' He says, whilst scoffing down a $1 cheeseburger wearing his 'Made in Taiwan* Nike T Shirt.
Because this is an egg post, wouldnt talking about meat be irrelevant?
Good luck trying to stop anyone from eating fast food, there's a reason our lazy Aussie society loves it. I would think health reasons alone people would choose to not consume it
Are the eggs down to $2 or $1.99?
$2.00 if you pay cash.
$1.99 + 0.5% if you pay using a CC.
$1.99 if paying by EFTPOS.
Bring a 1c coin just in case.
Not sure why you’d want to pay $2.01?
4 would be a better idea.
Went into Aldi Point Cook
… and you made it out alive??
2010: How can you support caged eggs!?!
2020: How can you support barn laid eggs!?!
2030: How can you support free range eggs!?!
2040: We're basically subsisting on moisture sucked from lichen.People are becoming SHEEP in increasing numbers these days, following the group mentality instead of judging what's best for themselves.
Eggs are a product of what the chickens eat which whether free range or caged is pretty much the same , pellets for laying made from grains plus high protein recycled animal meat/fish/soy. "Free range" chickens from egg producers(which are 10000 chickens per 10000sqm, do live in better conditions, but unless have enough free pasture to feed on will not produce eggs with similar nutrition to chickens that have pasture to really free range on and have worms/bugs/fresh grass/leaves in their diet. So you are paying more for the animal's welfare, egg quality and nutrition will be the same.
I have backyard chickens and they can eat a lot of grass/plant material. 1sqm per chicken is definitely not enough to provide enough "greens" for them to range on. One chicken can scratch through and eat all the grass/plant material and bugs/worms in the soil of a 1sqm lot in a few days.
If you want good high nutrition eggs look on gumtree and get them from a local acreage property that has real free ranging chooks, usually only about $5 or $6 per dozen
Gumtree has chicken eggs at over $15 per dozen in my region. I'm not ready to hand in my Ozbargain card and pay more than $1 each for my eggs.
I never knew you could buy eggs on Gumtree.
These days I eat a lot of eggs and get them delivered via Woolworths online so this wouldn't scale anymore for me, but I might give it a try.That said, I'm accustomed to these old supermarket eggs now. I actually prefer then to backyard caged eggs now :(
Chooks in your backyard are the only genuine free range. I tip my hat at you.
There Are a lot of scientific resources put into studying chook stress in various factory systems and the pros and cons of each. Personally I think people delude themselves thinking commercial “free range” is really better than decent cage systems. The negative stress factors just change from the consequences of limiting chook behaviours to the consequences of maximising them. There is no balance except foe a more natural population. Factory farming of any kind isnt it. The Pecking Order in the populations of factory free range must be brutal.
A lot of free range is far lower density than "10,000 chickens per 10,000sqm,"
It pains me to see animals suffer but the beyond ridiculous "activists" who come out and start a war here just on caged eggs is honestly the most iconic thing on Ozbargain.
Literally every product that is ever listed here probably has some kind of "horrible working conditions" for humans, animals, nature etc associated with its production… But no we do not speak of any of that…caged eggs though.. Oh man the number 1 violation of humanity.
Keep a watchful eye OP, you have placed a target on your back because you bought caged eggs. All other forms of human/animal/planet abuse in product production are fully supported by the community.
I mean, all these Chinese technology products being sold at $15 is a pretty good indication that people will care more for chicken lives than human lives.
pretty good indication that people will care more for chicken lives than human lives
Some people certainly do, but for the majority here, it seems to be a case of laziness than really caring more for the lives of other species.
I was pretty surprised what happened last year when Scrooge Mcduck posted a deal on caged eggs. Someone even told me I shouldn't have reproduced because I wanted to make sure I was financially capable of providing adequate nutrition to my children.
I looked into this phenomena and it seems like for a lot of people, it's lot of people, it's too tiring to form a proper opinion about so many "issues", so they tend to pick a political ideology and stick with it on all issues. This is why politics is so polarised now.
There isn't an easy and affordable way as a consumer to buy an alternative - electronics are universally produced under unacceptable conditions, and companies will lie their arses off about it. Same with clothing. Or as has been seen lately, with endemic violations of the laws around working conditions and pay in both restaurants (including expensive ones) and convenience stores in Australia.
But there are some circumstances where you can take a less harmful option at a reasonable cost. Eggs are one of the easiest - pay $1.50 more a carton and you know that at least things are a little better (but still in need of a lot of work). If you can't afford the difference, then buy the cage eggs guilt free because a human's welfare should come before an animal's, but for most of us we can handle that. Both Coles and Woolies sell RSPCA approved chicken too, including their cheapest products.
The hard ones aren't solvable on the level of individuals, so they'll need group action in the form of campaigns, laws and in some cases actually bloody enforcing existing laws.
I agree with your overall point, but I still think it’s perfectly justifiable to care about caged v free range eggs. It’s become a very visible and clear example of animal mistreatment and as such the needle has shifted on it. The same can’t yet be said for meat production, slave labour in the Global South, rampant fossil fuel usage, and so on. But I like to think we’re getting there.
Ah the old "if you can't fix everything at once, don't bother fixing anything" argument
People target eggs because they're an easy and relatively inexpensive way to reduce your negative impact on an animal's life
The issue is that free range is not a good enough solution, if you believe that suffering is tangible.
I'm very curious to know what makes these activists ridiculous? Cage free or cage - there is little difference other than marketing. Chickens are often debeaked and the male chicks are ground up alive. You choose to either participate in this or not through your wallet, as with everything. That said, you'll find many activists vet very thoroughly what they purchase to ensure they contribute to the least amount of harm.
Dear PETA:
How do you know chickens 🐓🐓🐓🐓 suffer? Have you experienced being a chicken? What makes you think they don’t enjoy cramped spaces? What makes you think they’re as fussy as 1st world humans? I’ve seen worse conditions in 3rd world countries.Wow
Yeah. How do we know how chickens feel if we’re not even chickens? Why do we assume they have mammalian feelings like we do?
Hi there, if you read the 2012 Cambridge declaration of consciousness you'll discover that birds, like mammals are sentient creatures and well aware of who and what they are. Go and spend some time at a chicken rescue and you'll see it with your own eyes or some videos of chickens running to greet their human family when they return from a day out.
Out of curiosity, are male babies ground up alive in shredders in 3rd world countries? Do they have their noses cut off? Are they unable to walk after a few weeks of age because they've been pumped with so many hormones?
Perhaps you could try exercising some empathy and compassion. In their capacity to feel pain and suffering, a chicken is no different to you and I, and that's all that should matter.
a chicken is no different to you and I, and that's all that should matter.
LOL. Mate, just listen to yourself.
@Wardaddy: When you choose to remove context you devalue your point. In their capacity to feel pain and suffering, there is no difference. What you are exercising here is speciesism.
You can debate or trivialise al you like, but we know bird, like mammals are sentient and experience consciousness.
http://fcmconference.org/img/CambridgeDeclarationOnConscious…We also know, through emerging scientific research, that fish feel pain. The question is only whether people continue to be self motivated or to put others before themselves.
@WeePaulie: Speciesism? GUILTY! Oddly enough, I DO put my kids and grandkids and wife and self above animals. Don't you? Do you treat your kids the same as animals? Can you hear yourself?
@Wardaddy: I think you've misunderstood here. The definition is as follows: the assumption of human superiority leading to the exploitation of animals.
It's the view that humans being superior permits them to essentially do whatever they like to any other species. It has nothing to do with putting non humans above or on equal pegging as humans - although many people may have a differing viewpoint.
Do you always feel the need to engage in a discussion with a demeaning manner? Is this what you would teach your children? Can you hear yourself?
;)
Would you be so quick to proudly claim your guilt of racism or sexism (not saying you are - but just illustrating a point)?
Anthropomorphism. Blame Disney.
Good work people for not negging the deal this time.
Last time a bunch of idiots down voted based on animal cruelty, even though there was no valid reason for the negative vote according to the site guideline.
This time you're all making your case without voting, which is a lot more reasonable.
They have all spent the night densely packed in a barn having a rave party.
I think a few of the neggers maybe got their votes revoked last time?
I mean seriously… who can give up a good negging opportunity??
They actually were last night. The votes got removed.
Spoke too soon…
I was too optimistic
I’ve seen a seller with 130 hens per hectare, but the eggs weren’t as good as the 325 hens per hectare brand so that’s what we go with :)
But have seen free range then listed as 10,000+ hens a hectare
Clicked looking for a shit show of discussion and debate… Was not disappointed!
The real question is, is it nationwide?
Consumers should be able to purchase whatever they seem fit for them, regardless of animal treatment.
As an adult, you make the decision to use your money to purchase qhat you require.
This should be straight forward from any backlash from anti-cage or anti-free range.Mind your own business, buy what YOU want, don't preach religion across to others and have arguments.
We are complaining of cage or free range eggs when most of the world can barely feed themselves.We are complaining of cage or free range eggs when most of the world can barely feed themselves
Thank you for putting this in perspective!
Mind your own business
Hahaha imagine expecting people to actually do this 🤣
No but I agree wholly. People are just idiots though.
Wow. This is cheap. Is this Nationwide or what? We buy two dozen a week. This will surely ease our suffering wallets. Not to mention with the added cost of buying the Balut eggs too. Not too sure if they are free range or caged since a single Balut egg almost cost the same as tbis deal.
Just updated mine too.
@DogGunn: 55000 deaths A YEAR that could be greatly reduced if people didnt have pets and let their litter roam free. but no, it is the caging of chickens that is neg worthy