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2016 Cannondale CAAD8 105 WAS $1899 NOW $999 @ Lawrencia Cycles

900

Pretty decent for Alu frame, Carbon fork and 105 groupset!

Frame
CAAD8, Optimized 6061 Alloy, SAVE, BB30
Fork
Cannondale Ultra, Carbon blades, 1-1/8"
Front Derailleur
Shimano 105 5800, 31.8 clamp
Rear Derailleur
Shimano 105 5800
Number of Gears
22
Shifters
Shimano 105 5800
Chain set
FSA Gossamer, BB30, 50/34
Bottom Bracket
FSA BB30
Cassette
Shimano 105 5800, 11-28, 11-speed
Chain
Shimano HG600, 11-speed
Brakeset
Tektro R741, dual pivot, cartridge pad
Handlebars
Cannondale C3, butted 6061 Alloy, Compact
Stem
Cannondale C3, 6061 Alloy, 31.8, 6 deg.
Headset
Tange Seiki Integrated, 25mm top cap
Grips
Cannondale Bar Tape w/Gel, 2.5mm
Rims
Maddux RS 2.0 Speed, 32-hole
Front Hub
Formula RB-56
Rear Hub
Formula RB-5711
Spokes
Stainless Steel, 15g
Front Tyre
Schwalbe Lugano, 700x25c
Rear Tyre
Schwalbe Lugano, 700x25c
Saddle
Cannondale Stage Ergo w/ Crmo Rails
Seatpost
Cannondale C3, Alloy, 27.2x300mm

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  • -7

    WAS $1899 NOW $999

    Enough said!!!

    • -1

      Well i guess the pedals are worth $900, that must be why they are able to clear them out so cheap!

      • -5

        No discs ….Lots of new models getting discs

        • +8

          If you're riding in CX or dirt tracks, discs are a plus. For the road, discs are bad:
          * dual pivot calipers are perfectly adequate
          * disc frames are wider at the fork and rear triangle to accompany the disc, that is often done by reshaping the seat stays to incorporate a bend at the ends, that looks dodgy structurally to my eye.
          * disc mechanism is heavier, bad for climbing
          * discs are joined to the hub and introduce more stress, therefore the hub has to be heavier to accomodate
          * (tin hat on) discs are just the latest trick to get everyone to upgrade and pay more.

        • +1

          @stuntman:

          More to stuntman's comments:

          • Hydraulic discs are much harder to maintain (require bleeding which is messy, requires mineral oil etc)
          • Mechanical discs (found on cheaper bikes) don't apply enough pressure on the discs and can slip
          • Disc brakes no matter the brand/how expensive they are squeak/squeal when wet which is super annoying.
          • They are super sharp and can cut you during an accident or even during maintenance (banned from UCI racing for this reason)

          I have disc's on my commuter bike - I do not notice a performance difference to justify the shortcomings compared to my road brake with standard caliper brakes.

        • +3

          Garage sale….From your post 2 days ago

          “sad thing is shimano are moving to flat mount disc brakes ….. the 2016/17 synapse has the old mounts so with this type of investment ($4500), don't expect brake upgrades in the future without special brackets ….. the Cadd-X has the new style mounts …., it's why I skipped the 2016-17 synapse deals. Gumtree and Ebay …. full or bikers broken dreams while low ballers feast on their sorrows"

          It appears you are obsessed with disks and thinking that shops are desperately trying to get rid of non disks bikes due to a sudden change.
          I mean seriously?? It isn't full of broken dreams and a mass exodus. Do a little research and also contemplate the other comments to you post. I have disks on my road bike and like them, but anyone who is racing at higher grades won't have them.

        • -2

          There are few people racing at those levels and those that do probably have higher spec bikes

          I used to have mountain bikes so caliper brakes were a flash back to my child hood.

          Will be interesting how many new models have calipers and how many have disc over the next few years.

        • +1

          @mroarsome:

          • Hydraulic discs are much harder to maintain (require bleeding which is messy, requires mineral oil etc)

          Overall maintenance effort is higher for disc brakes and a buyer should factor this in. On the other hand, I've never had to bleed mine except for the time when I removed the caliper to thread the hose through the frame when fitting a new disc brake.

          • Disc brakes no matter the brand/how expensive they are squeak/squeal when wet which is super annoying.

          For me it's only mildly annoying. The resin pads squeel less, but wear faster. On some occasions I don't mind drawing extra attention to myself in peak hour traffic.

          • They are super sharp and can cut you during an accident or even during maintenance (banned from UCI racing for this reason)

          The risk mainly being cut on someone else's discs during a mass pileup - hence the UCI ban. For the solo or small group rider, I think the risk of being cut by your own disc would be negligible in terms of overall accident risks.

          I have discs on my commuter bike and I wouldn't want to go back to calipers. I feel more confident stopping in the wet. Another bonus is that brake pad dust doesn't accumulate on the rims. I used to hate cleaning that muck off on my old bike.

          The value of disc brakes very much depends on rider preference and the usage scenario (as well as budget). They are not an essential item for road riding. This bike looks like good value for a rider who doesn't want disc brakes.

        • I love how rabid people get about rim v disc hydraulic/mech. My new road bile has hydraulic disc brakes which I like as a commuter who rides hills, with Sydney traffic, and in the wet quite often. I don't notice the extra weight because I'm a) riding an aluminium bike so I'm busy feeling every bump in the road anyway and b) not a racer!

        • @em:

          Maybe let some air out of your tyres?

          I ride an aluminium bike (CAAD10). Feels silky smooth on a lower tyre pressure.

          https://cyclingtips.com/2016/08/cyclingtips-podcast-episode-…

        • @misterhorsey: Yeah I am ~64kg and ride with 80/90psi

          Edit: I do think the Cannondale frame is superior, my bike is a Liv and has carbon fork

        • @em:

          Ah, well you're doing it right then.

          I'm 62kg and run 90psi! We are almost the same. Was 68kg a few months ago….and used to run 115psi…stupid.

        • +1

          @misterhorsey: It's not your fault, you're obviously a lot more at home on a horse ;) haha

        • +1

          @em:

          Neiiggggghhh!

    • +5

      http://www.cannondale.com/en/USA/Bike/ProductDetail?Id=d46eb…

      Pedals included according to Cannondale, I would have expected you to do your research JV.

      Might pick one up for myself, my CAAD4 is getting a little old

      • +1

        I would have expected you to do your research

        "A picture is worth a thousand words"

      • Wellgo el-cheapo pedals, good if you are a beginner and are not used to cleats. After all, the CAAD8 is considered an entry level RB

    • +6

      every time

    • +3

      High-end bikes don't come with pedals for two reasons:
      1. Everyone has their preference in pedals and cleat systems and
      2. If a bike is sold with pedals, they must have reflectors on them. And who wants that? However no reflectors are required if the bike is not sold with them, or on aftermarket pedals.

      • +2

        Everyone has their preference in pedals

        Same can be said for seats, but they all come with those…

        • That's actually a really good point.

          Seats and pedals, two of the major contact points. I actually wish bikes came without a seat too. High end bikes have expensive seats and I always change mine so totally wasting dollars!!

          All you need to do is look on bike forums and people are often trying seat after seat chasing the perfect fit. Rarely hear that with pedals

        • +2

          Same can be said for seats, but they all come with those…

          its a 'SADDLE'.

          jv why do you persist in derailing every single bike deal…when clearly you have sfa to contribute except your worn out & tired attempts at humour?

        • +3

          Not really the same comparison. The reason they don't provide pedals is because there are several type of pedal systems which the cleats are incompatible with between. Whereas the wrong saddle may be annoying, is still usable.

        • -3

          @franco cozzo:

          derailing every single bike deal

          Why are you lying ?

          Do you find it too difficult to just discuss the posted deal that you need to post comments attacking other users?

          If you don't like my opinions, you can choose to hide them. Obviously you haven't, so you like to read them. I can only conclude that you are deliberately trying to create conflict.

        • @jv: because you contribute nothing to the discussion regarding the deal by shitposting mate. All it does is derail the thread like what is happening right now.

        • +1

          @xivion:

          That's just your opinion. Others consider your posts useless too… If you can't comment about the deal, don't comment at all… Posting comments just to attack other OzBargain members is just trolling.

        • +2

          @jv: which post exactly? The post where I proved you wrong where Cannondale does supply pedals? The post where I called up and asked if I ship interstate? In comparison I don't see any constructive posts relating to the deal itself on your end. I'm not attacking just observing.

        • -5

          @xivion:

          yes

        • @jv: im not. you just cant help trolling. https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/305906#comment-4666290

      • Yup, common for road bikes to not have pedals due to personal pref.

        Interesting about the pedal reflectors thing, I didn't know that. But looking at the NSW road rules (must be different for each state) for riding a bike (not selling a bike) it says must require rear reflector + front light + rear light if you're riding at night or hazardous conditions.

        "night" means the period between sunset on one day and sunrise on the next day.

        Apart from that time of the day, you just gotta have a rear red reflector or light.

        So yup, makes sense pedals aren't included when selling, because reflectors on pedals aren't so popular :) People would just take them off anyway.

        • I've still got my reflectors in my Aldi MTB which one of my mates rolls his eyes at me.

        • @dan76n: They have their purpose. Remember, safety first!

  • +1

    Great price!

    • Definitely a good price. Looks like a great time to buy a new bike with sooooo many deals out there. Happy shopping everyone!

  • +7

    .. I've replied to a similar (earlier thread) on this, and agree it's a good deal. I got mine (same model in Dec 16) for $1,250. Forwarded this to a mate of mine, and he picked one up the following weekend. Good deal for a mix-105 group set.

    Shitty pedals though, a small investment to get the 105 carbon pedals is well worth it.

    • …can buy a boat for this price?

    • +3

      You can also buy a Computer, Tablet, Phone, and plenty of other items for this price?
      You can also buy a car for $300.
      So I don't get your point :)

      • -2

        Computer, Tablet, Phone, and plenty of other items for this price?

        will these get you places?

        • +5

          …if you call an uber maybe? :D

        • @franco cozzo: you don't have to call them. Just use the app from the tablet.

        • +1

          No, but a bike will, and in some cases faster, and definitely cheaper!

        • @franco cozzo:

          if you call an uber maybe?

          they're still illegal in Victoria, government has yet to pass legislation to legalise them.

    • …can buy a jetpack for this price?

    • +4

      Yes you can buy a car for this price but this is a deal for a specific bike at a great price it seems. I'd like to buy a new 2016 model car at a near 50% discount, please point me in the right direction. If you want a decent bike the price of shitboxes and other things that are not a bike are irrelevant.

    • +6

      Same comment from the same person on the last few bike deals posted on Ozbargain, the joke is getting old. You must really hate that people pay more for bikes than what you spent on your car…

      Cracking deal by the way, just a shame there isn't a 60cm in stock :(

      • Also a shame: I don't have a grand to drop on a bike right now or I'd be all over this.

  • Great value, Cannondale makes great alloy frames, will be a good bike to take on travel.

  • +40

    Can the mods seriously start deleting the stupid "where are the pedals", "this costs more than my car" comments every time a bike deal is posted. Its always the same people and it doesn't contribute to the discussion.

    • +6

      I've paid more for a kids pedal car

  • Can anybody in the know comment on how the Cell Lapa 3.0 compares for the same price?

    • +17

      The Cell bike:
      - MINUS: You'll be riding around on a Cell bike (Due to brand snobbery, if you get into riding no one will want to be seen with you)
      - MINUS: IMO looks nasty with the blue and yellow
      - MINUS(MAYBE): I've previously bought a cell bike, maybe 8 years ago, and have known a few others around that time. The Cell bikes all had some niggle due to the poor manufacturing. Frames not straight, geometry slightly out etc. Dunno what they're like now, but even if they're amazing they wont be near the quality of the CAAD.
      - PLUS: Might be more comfortable given it's carbon, it tends to absorb the bumps better. Hard to say exactly without riding it.
      - PLUS: full 105 groupset, the 105 cranks are better
      - PLUS: The 105 Brakes are FAR FAR better

      The Cannondale
      - PLUS: It's a ~10 year old frame design, tried and tested. It will last you almost forever.
      - PLUS: The frame shape is timeless, looks great.
      - PLUS: You'll be able to sell the Cannondale if you buy it, ride it once, decide to sell it 3 years later when you clean out your garage.
      - PLUS: The CAAD will be pretty stiff and probably better for power transfer. Again, hard to say without testing each of them. I owned a CAAD9 and it was awesome for races around flat circuits.

      Everything else looks pretty similar i.e. bottom of the range wheels, tyres etc.
      If it was me I'd go the CAAD every time. Only if I knew I needed to ride over a bunch of bad roads would I consider the Cell, even then I'd make sure I had a proper test ride and I'd go over the bike they sold me with a very fine tooth comb.

      • Spot on Mate, 100%

        • +2

          I'd also add for the CAAD.

          PLUS: Very high-quality Cannondale "C3" running gear; Stem, seatpost and handlebars. These are underrated and top shelf components.

          I have no idea why Cannondale feel it's necessary to save $10 by switching to the Tektro brakes. Those brakes are a disgrace.

        • Yeah WTF. Of all the good points, they could have popped on 105 brakes too

      • Thanks for the great reply.

    • Don't have a Lapa 3.0 but I do ride a Cell Brunswick 1.0. Cell makes really good aluminium frames but Cannondale's are great (based on briefly riding a CAAD10).

    • +2

      Similar in spec though the Cannondale has a much better frame (stiffer with sharper steering) and would hold its value better if you were to sell it a later stage

    • +4

      The Cannondale has the better frame - their CAAD aluminium frame series is very highly regarded (as they should be). Cell have improved markedly in recent years (I ride a carbon Cell), but not at the same level as Cannondale.

      The Cell has the better groupset, being FULL 105 5800-series. The Cannondale swaps out the 105 brakes for Tektro brakes, and the 105 cranks for FSA Gossamer cranks (both of which are slight downgrades).

      Wheels on both are average.

      Hope that helps!! :-)

    • +1

      CAAD is one of the best alloy frame set on the market, the design is not flashy, but its a great frame set to ride. I would go with the Cannondale.

      • +1

        Yep, and it's frame geometry is a little more upright (relaxed) so it's quite comfortable especially if you decide to use it as a commuter.

    • +1

      Let's be honest here, unless you have actually ridden both bikes, you can't compare anything other than the superficial stuff as described by ChickenTalon, like resell value, better brand name etc. You cannot say for sure that the CAAD is stiffer or has a better frame. For all we know the Cell Lapa frame could be far superior to the CAAD, or it could be made in exactly the same factory in Taiwan and be similar, or it could be crap. If you were comparing the CELL to a CAAD10 or CAAD12 then that is a different story, these frames are in another league (and much more expensive), but remember this is a CAAD8. As for the crank, the reason why the CAAD has an FSA crank is because Shimano don't make a crankset with a 30mm spindle, you'll need to use an adaptor if you want a Shimano crank

      • Good point re-crankset. It's a minus not to be able to just use a standard english thread.

        The BB30 has more potential to be a PITA down the track if anything goes wrong. It's not as simple to replace the bottom bracket (the part of the bike that the cranks fit into) because the BB30 sizing is only used by Cannondale. Cannondale have now switched to BB30a to make matters more confusing.

        Still, many many happy riders on the Cannondale and I've got very fond memories of my CAAD9. I'd still choose the CAAD8 over the Cell.

        Like I said, my experience in owning both a Cell and a CAAD left me very unlikely to ever buy a Cell bike again, or recommend them. From my experience and those of people I know, the manufacturing quality of the Cell frames was terrible.
        - braze on derailleur mount unable to accept a full sized crankset because it was set too low during manufacturing.
        - rear wheel rubbing against seat tube (yes, with small 23mm tyres on).
        - frame out of geometry so that the bike pulls to the left.

        The same cannot be said of the CAAD8, I know a few who have bought them and they all love their CAADs. Yet to hear of any dramas with Cannondale alu frames.

    • I have Lappa 2.0 with upgraded full 105 gset and it is excellent bike.. very comfy and descent quality… this bike is probably better thiough

      • +2

        and descent quality…

        Awesome, so they go down hills well?

        • +1

          Wow those bike companies always looking for a new niche, I've heard of 'climbing' bikes (low weight to haul up hills) but never descending bikes!

        • +1

  • +1

    Can be shipped interstate?

    • +2

      Might give them a call tomorrow morning and find out myself, I'll reply if I find out.

      • +3

        I called up, they said they can't ship interstate and that someone would have to go instore to pick the bike up

    • +1

      Tiger Air has a sale at the moment… Fly there and ride back…. still cheaper…

  • Are there different sizes?
    Ignore that, i see there is

  • Nice

    Not including pedals saves on landfill, as probably 95% of pedals supplied on decent bikes would end up in the trash anyway

  • hi does anyone know whats the weight of this bike? thanks

  • +2

    Is this bike worth it for a newbie?

    • +1

      yep

    • +6

      If by newbie you mean somebody that intends to get into road cycling as a hobby then definitely yes! The aluminium frame is less likely than carbon to be damaged if you have an accident or forget to unclip a foot and tip over at some traffic lights (we've all done it). The Cannondale name will get you some cred at the Saturday shop ride. This frame is certainly worth upgrading if you come into some cash and want to add a better set of wheels. This bike is also capable and (although I would prefer a different saddle) probably comfortable enough to ride one of the long charity events like around the bay etc. these CAAD bikes are a favourite for amateur crit racers as the aluminium frames are better able to survive a stack. Nothing worse than the guy you're drafting behind hitting a pothole and bringing yourself and everyone behind you down cracking the frame on your Cervelo S5 or Trek Madone and costing you $6K ish in an instant.

      If by newbie you mean somebody that just wants a bike for the 5 km commute to work or to follow your kids around a bikepath on the weekend then there are probably cheaper options.

      • +1

        Second option. Just want to ride around some parks on the weekend or around my surroundings (suburban). But if you can feel the quality and it lasts, then I don't mind spending $1000.

  • +2

    For all those people thinking this is a lot of money for a bike, I just received an email this afternoon advertising some $320 a pair bib shorts (lycra cycling shorts for the non cyclists) https://thepedla.com/collections/mens-bib-shorts/products/su…

    These are expensive shorts but, to put the cost of cycling stuff in perspective, $1K for a bike is not considered expensive by hard core cyclists.

    • I'm frugal and regard $1k a baseline for a reasonable bike …… so you either buy used bike for $1000 and can't be sure about history, or this bike for $1000 and it's new.

    • +2

      roughly 6000 revolutions per hour…that's 36000 times your leg will go up and down on a 6 hour ride. Yep worth getting decent bib shorts!!!

  • How does this compare to the Reid Falco Elite? Which is usually $999 (ok not always cheaper, but usually at least discounted to $999)?

    https://www.reidcycles.com.au/falco-elite-road-bike.html

    • Hopefully you are small sized. I looked to get one before ending up with the CAA8 105 (as picture, in Black/White), but they didn't have M onwards since Dec 16. It's on run out till they bring the MY2017 (beats me when that is)

    • +1

      The Falco has a full 105 groupset but i dare say the CAAD will be better in the long run, better resale value for sure. I also prefer the CAAD's cassette 12-28 vs 12-25t on the falco. Especially if you do some hill climbing and need that 28 tooth. But I guess cassette's are cheap and can be changed anyway.

      • I'm not sure why it'll be better in the long run when they look like the same bike, different paint job and slightly different features.

        • +1

          I was mostly talking about from resale value and support. Because Cannondale is a popular worldwide brand name when it comes to bikes.

    • See comments above about frame geometry and there are different wheels, tyres, hubs and forks which most people will lean toward Cannondale but I am not bike expert so you better do your homework before deciding which to get.

  • This deal is slightly better IMO https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/300533

    • Yes, but sold out in less than a day. One of my mates managed to grab one. It's nice. Carbon frame and full 105 gruppo

    • +2

      OMG this deal actually just came from a link in that thread! lol

      https://www.ozbargain.com.au/comment/4578498/redir

    • Unfortunately you cant get that deal in Perth :(

  • +7

    This is a great deal and I would not hesitate to buy it. However the store doesn't take all their customers seriously. I went in for a bike a few years ago at a 50% sale and they did not want me to test ride it saying it is no longer brand new if I hopped on. They offered to put me on the trainer. This is not very typical for bikestores to disallow customers to test ride bikes. The customer service was pretty shitty too. Eventually they allowed it after I said I am a serious customer. That whole experience ticked me off. But for 999 on that bike I'd come back if I needed a new bike.

    • I got my bike from Lawrencia, a scott mountain bike, 40% off ….. they were fine ….. issue was how many were left in my size.
      I would buy from them again.

      the 40-50% off deals are pain for shops as little margin left, and those bikes sell QUICK!
      I love going into bike shops and when they ask can I help you I say "I'm after the $1500 bike at 40% off" …. their response is either "those were sold already" or "so is everybody else".

  • I own a CAAD8 and use it to commute (26km round trip). I fitted it with 28mm Gatorskins tyres with 90psi. I originally didn't enjoy this bike at all but that has changed since I fitted a set of Campag Zonda wheels with the same 28mm tyres - it just feels a lot snappier on acceleration and less effort going up a hill. I absolutely love this bike now.

    • Yes, those wheels it comes with are crap. Almost 90% of a bike's power transfer performance is due to the wheels. You'll be losing a lot of power because of the softness, weight and flex in these standard wheels.

      Those Campy Zondas are quite well rated for the price.

  • How about these comments on Cannondale - they hv left me confused

    https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/304532#comment-4644660

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