Wish to Relocate to USA. Any Suggestions?

My wife and I are Australian citizens, in early 30’s and seriously considering relocating to New York. We are in a position where if either of us gets a job in US, we can wrap up everything here and move within a month. I work in Asset Management in Investment industry, and my wife in Digital marketing.

Primary reasons to move:

  • 50x more career opportunities for me and probably 10x for my wife
  • Higher pay
  • my strong belief that US economy will become much more resilient and strong in coming years
  • NY lifestyle (lots to do, nightlife etc.)

It’s still early days, but I have been looking for work on East coast but the biggest challenge I am facing is the recruiters don’t understand what E3 visa is and don’t want to sponsor anyone from overseas.

On the other side my wife is still contemplating if it will be a good move for us? She is 80% convinced but due to remaining 20%, haven’t started applying for jobs. Her entire extended family lives on East coast and suggest we should move there too.

Could anyone please share their views if:

  1. It’s a good decision to move to New York from Sydney?
  2. Any suggestions on how can we break into the job market there?

Thanks for your time.

Comments

    • -1

      That was difficult to read. I am assuming English isn't your native language.

    • +1

      Most people in AU have no idea outside the fanatical crap that ends up on the media….

      though a couple of mates of mine (engineering industries), reckon that it’s very slowly getting better ever since the city was front page news.

      So it's OK if the news media supports your narrative.

  • I approve

  • Get a job with Australian companies with exposure to America and they usually have work opportunities there. I know someone who works for the Blocks (Afterpay) and she requested for work transfer and got approved to move there. It'll be easier than applying for jobs in USA directly.

  • Upgrade your health & life insurance and give my love to Bobby Kennedy Jr.
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/health/2025-02-24/avian-influenz…

    EDIT Don't forget the matching MAGA caps.

  • Well, you already live in a highly overpriced housing market (Sydney), so will be accustomed to New York prices.

    There have been some suggestions on this thread to visit the USA, and New York, first to see if you like it. I would suggest no. Being a tourist is completely different to actually living there.

    I'm interested in the '50x' career opportunities. What do you do for a living?

  • +1

    Have you actually been to the US?

  • +2

    There's a lot of negativity in here, and you should do what you feel is right, but I would urge you to wait and see what happens over the next few months politically in the USA. There are a few things going on that most likely will result in a major constitutional crisis, with potential violence. There's instability coming and I wouldn't want to be anywhere near that in the coming months.

    • +4

      Everyone knows how cluster fecked the US is.If OP is considering relocation at this time then they deserve to relocate.It's where they are meant to be.We also need the housing, so hopefully those aligned with the USA can join the rush. The govt could offer rebates on flight costs to facilitate an orderly process.

    • -5

      Get off social made I say. Instability coming? What is coming? People who are perpetually online only hear all the bad stuff, meanwhile forgetting that 90% of the country is just going about their business and doesn't care.

      • +1

        That is a very delusional take on what is going on in the US right now

  • +1

    Isn't the market about to crash (reversed 10yr bonds).

    Everyone (including Warren) has put their moolah into gold…

  • -6

    You'd be going at a good time when all the government parasites are starting to be thrown out. If only someone would throw out all the parasites on the taxpayers dime here as well.

    • +10

      The 2 biggest parasites hold the top 2 jobs.Their White House enablers on the payroll make up a veritable parasite colony.

  • -1

    It's always inspiring to see individuals of Indian origin achieving remarkable success as CEOs in the United States. Their leadership, dedication, and innovative thinking contribute not only to their respective companies but also to the broader business landscape. Their achievements serve as a testament to the diverse talent pool and global impact that Indian professionals bring to the corporate world.
    https://www.techlistic.com/2019/07/top-10-highly-paid-indian…

    • ok chat gpt, if you say so.

  • +4

    HACK:
    Boost your employability
    Go on X and use the word woke in every sentence, bag the democrats,praise the good ol' boys, talk about your Tesla,mention MAGA etc.
    You may get directly recruited.

  • Her entire extended family lives on East coast and suggest we should move there too.

    Couldn't they sponsor both of you?

    my strong belief that US economy will become much more resilient and strong in coming years

    +36 trillion dollars debt might slow the US economy to a complete stop.

    Doubtful/questionable gold reserves might brutally devalue the US dollar. Good or bad? Good question. And depends for whom.

    • +5

      I predict a MAGA driven recession as Europe pushes back and becomes unstable at the same time. Militarily, Russia will embolden as will China further impacting. (Trump must be more than just pro Putin to be acting as he is)
      Here at home mining will take a big hit as the global economy slows . All of the Trump strategies are narrow and insular, You can't make globalisation capitalism work with the train-wreck he's creating. In the US itself they will get closer to a civil war than ever as the unemployed created by Trump Musk, flex back. Many have guns. Combine tens of thousands of angry gun owners on the other side for a change and the threat will flip. American society is the least equipped mentally to deal with real socially destructive hardship. But it's their bed, so lay in it they will.
      In the medium term Australia should jack the price up on export lithium, and tear up gas export contracts with the uSA.
      Scrap AUKUS because the USA will be closer a fascist country, than a democracy before Trumps term ends.

      The German election result (as per the USA) had a serendipitous outcome that Musk wanted and hovered over, and barracked for. What a coincidence.

      • The German election result

        24/2/2025 12:46 - Not over just yet … doesn't look like it either

        • I'm guessing you're waving the AfD flag. (vigorously)

  • +1

    Shame everyone is just replying with posts that are written by someone who has probably never been there and just writes what they hear on TV or social media.

    If I was able to I would move in a heartbeat, cost of living is higher for sure but the salaries are way better. I could earn double but my costs would not double.

    I don't have any advice for you but I had a friend of a friend who moved to the US and the biggest hurdle they had was finding a company who understood what an E3 visa was and why it wasn't a big deal.

    • +1

      I agree. I spent 16 years of my life in the US, 4 years near Detroit and 12 years in Chicago. I never felt unsafe, not even south side of Chicago. Heck that's where I play tennis twice a week when I was living there.

      Now that I am in Australia, there are pros and cons to both countries. My previous car had windows smashed twice in Perth in a span of 3 months while nothing happened in Chicago, parked outside.

      Definitely lower taxes in the US and being a permanent employee, higher wages in the US followed by an average of 4-6 weeks of paid time off.

      Flip side are the city and state sales taxes, tipping (and how bad it is these days) and employment at will, meaning with 2 weeks notice, either you or your employer can give you notice. Being in Chicago, the crazy winter months do not help whatsoever but that is offset by the activities we get in the cooler summers.

      Having been in Australia for 7 years so far, I would rate both countries as fairly similar with pros and cons to each.

      Biggest pro for me in the US is the fact that travel is still very cheap. I am pricing out Boston to Los Angeles flights in April and it is still showing $169 USD one way on United. Flying to Europe between Jan-March (dead of winter) is also still very cheap.

  • +1

    Having worked in numerous countries around the world, I strongly suggest a 2-3 week trip before committing, both to check-out the environment, but also make contact with some local recruitment agencies etc. Landing in a new country is hard work, as your have to sort out lots of things quickly to reestablish a "normal" life, so you want to make sure you have a reasonably well thought through plan before arriving.

    OP's post is very positive on the upsides, but suggest thinking through the downsides abit more. Healthcare and rents are a major cost (vs Australia), which will offset some of financial upside. If either of you have any preexisting medical issues, make sure you understand if health insurers take people with those conditions on. (Healthcare in the USA is a basket case)

    As others have said, probably the "easiest" (least hassle) way to move countries is with a multi-national, as you take away the financial stress of needing to find a job (which is important for renting, getting credit / loans etc), and they also could help with other aspects as well. e.g. With one of my moves, the company helped with temporary accommodation for 3 months.

    On entry and working visa's, make sure you fully understand the visa criteria and rules. For instance, for a E3, you need a job offer from a US company and a heap of other requirements BEFORE you can get the visa. I've engaged a professional migration consultant in the past to make sure all of the visa admin was taken care of properly.

    One final point. Make sure you have thought through what happens to your "Australian life" - If you have household stuff seriously consider taking as little as possible - it's expensive to ship stuff internationally. Also, some household electrical stuff just won't work in the USA due to power differences.

    Best of luck

  • +1

    Back in the early 90's I applied in the Green Card Lottery and was successful. Ultimately I didn't go ahead with it because I figured my life as a pleb in Australia was much better than one as a pleb in the USA. There were some initial expenses as well and it took around 2 years from application to approval letter arriving by which time my circumstances had somewhat changed. So give that a shot I'm sure they still do it. At the time you just had to send a letter to arrive in the correct date window.

  • +3

    I’ve lived in upstate New York as well as a number of other international locations (UK, Singapore, KL, BKK MEA etc).

    Nice to experience these places but need to do as an expat working there? No.

    I went to Singapore last year as a tourist and really enjoyed it so much more and in a different light as when I lived there as an expat.

    My advice is: don’t be driven by money. It makes your misery more bearable but does not bring you happiness.

    Follow your hearts is my advice.

    Note: I’m retired now.

    All the best whatever you decide.

  • +2

    I love NY but I wouldn't live there BUT I wouldn't listen to naysayers. What's the worst thing that can happen?? (other than getting shot but that's statistically not high). You won't succeed or you won't like it and return? I feel like that's your situation so why the hell not?? Good/bad/Ugly it's an EXPERIENCE you have with your partner with little downside. I take experiences any day!! Life doesn't need to be too complicated … anyway my 2c.
    PS: Having kids imo is a far greater risk/gamble/PITA than giving NY a shot yet most people don't give it enough thought.

    • +1

      But it sounds like the motivation is mostly $$$ and not life experience.

      • +1

        True but whether they make $$$ or not, it would be a life experience. Many people can't afford to take that jump/risk for whatever reason but if the OP is willing to do it, I say why not.

  • +5

    One major medical issue and you will be financially ruined and in dept the rest of your life. This could happen at any age while living there. More so as you get older. Trump is getting rid of the per-existing conditions rules and any regulations to prevent abuse along with dumping the consumer rights commission. Health insurers will reject any claims from now on. Welcome to the USA.

    • Some companies have health insurance as part of the remuneration.

      But I guess it's another to make a claim.

      ie. see Luigi Mangione

  • Good luck, I've tried, Careers were in demand, I went and studied and now it isn't, done this twice.
    Doesn't look like I'll ever get over there.

  • dunno why all the MAGA-hate about NYC here given that is generally regarded as 'Not America' by Republicans who are Making America Grate Again …

  • +5

    I have been in the US more than what I would like for work and the best part of each trip is coming home. While the US might be a great county 50 years ago, the aggressiveness, violence, entitlement. politic and lack of social justices there sadden me. We are truly lucky to be in Australia.

    • +1

      I did a 5-week work trip back in the 90s and left impressed by what appeared to be an advanced, aspirational nation. It wasn’t easy to get a copy of the NY Times and we didn’t get their cable news channels so I was just oblivious to the actual reality of their society which differs from ours on so many levels.

  • -1

    There are plenty of asset management finance opportunities here. If you can't cut it here what makes you think that you will have 50x more opportunities there.

  • dude has faith in Trump, let him be

  • +1

    America holistically has gone downhill, quant easing and high interest rates sucked the capital from the rest of the world into american equity the last few years driving the stock market mad, it doesn't translate into economic resilience.

  • +2

    My spouse moved to Australia from US due to cut throat professional life along with overly superficial and materialistic lifestyle and found taking almost a 50% pay cut to move to Australia for a laid-back simpler lifestyle wss worth it.

    OP everyone's reasons and what they want for themselves is very different. You do you.

  • +1

    So many mates of mine have divorced after moving overseas with their partner, good luck if you decide to go ahead

    • +10

      Im packing now after reading yours. Thanks finally a good natural excuse! And I will be free… like a bird….

  • +4

    No bloody way I'd even visit there right now, let alone relocate!

    Madness.
    Not even if I had free airline tickets.
    20 years ago maybe. I lived there for nearly a year and it was good. But not now. No way.

  • -2

    There is no better time to go than now. So many can only dream and imagine the beautiful spectacle of witnessing America becoming great again with their own eyes.

    • +3

      Is this brandon or elon or trump?

    • +1

      It's probably fine as long as you have the right skin colour. But be a little bit darker and hanging around the southern border, and you'll get hassled. 'Papers please!'

      • -7

        It's absolutely fine unless you're a criminal.

      • +3

        Totally. The point of attacking all the DEI and affirmative action stuff so aggressively, is to make skin colour and wealth the default measure of competence and criminality.

        Which makes it very easy for supporters to welcome mass firings of 'undeserving' workers, while welcoming nepotism and cronyism at the top.

  • +8

    I’m in New York (Chinatown) right now and went on a biking tour from the Financial District to Central Park yesterday. As a tourist, I have found it to be safe so far. You do get hawkers trying to sell you stuff and homeless is a big issue but isn’t it everywhere right now? Mostly people are too busy to bother you and just walk straight past you going to wherever they are going. It’s highly unlikely statistically you will encounter gun violence personally and there are cops on every block it seems here in NYC.

    I think the biggest issue working here as a foreigner is the attitude right now against said foreigners working here. It’s fine as a tourist but with the mass government job cuts and generally the “America First” mantra it’s probably hard to get a foot in the door. Not saying it isn’t doable but will be more difficult than it has been historically. Not your field OP but as an example there has been a shortage of truck drivers here but companies are reluctant to hire non-locals as it is seen as taking a job away from a local. Probably a bit silly given the shortage but that’s the reality.

    Personally I’d love to work here for a year or two just to immerse myself in a different culture and see something different but it seems too much effort and I’m not in the right field work wise to easily do so. I probably wouldn’t pick a big city as I’m more of a small town guy but I guess the work is mostly in big cities.

    I second Texas as a good option for work. Cheap, completely different culture to the rest of the US, a number of cities to choose from to live in and good flight connections to other parts of the country so you can visit other parts on weekends and downtime (DFW and IAH are major hubs for American and United respectively). If you have the means and want to do it then I say go for it. Worst that happens is you move back to Australia and continue on where you left off.

    • +1

      Yeah… foreigners taking jobs from the locals… a big No No right now.

  • No bro dont do it stay with us ozb is the best

  • I bet with my 5 precious eneeloops that OP will regret moving!

  • There will absolutely be companies that know about the E3 visa. Global companies and organisations who regularly recuit from outside of the US will know, and, in my view, they're the companies worth targeting.

    For what it's worth, I work in migration for a global company in Aus, and I have seen an increase in interest from people in the US looking to get out.

  • +1

    I have been to east cost, its nice. Pay is better and stuff are generally cheaper there (Except organic, healthy food like fruits and veg).

    Homelessness have gotten worst over the years, street violence as well, mainly in city centres though, if you live a bit far you wont be impacted as much.

    Healthcare is 10x worst. You will pay through the gills if something happens and you wont get the same level as you get here.

    Regarding economy, I think all countries are heading into a bleak downturn in the coming years. US will not be spared.

  • +4

    my strong belief that US economy will become much more resilient and strong in coming years

    Bro you are in Asset Management ….this is an insane statement from a fund manager (if that's your job)…I hope my funds aren't managed by you lol

    • -2

      You probably argue with your doctor when he tells you his diagnosis also?

      • +1

        I don't. Do you?

        • +1

          He probs doesn't believe in Drs except Dr (O'm going on a migrant raid) Phil and Dr Bobbie ( Make America Daft Again) Kennedy Jr . Both should line up for Musks Mars mission as space cadets

  • the biggest challenge I am facing is the recruiters don’t understand what E3 visa is and don’t want to sponsor anyone from overseas.

    So this is typically the biggest headache. Some employers are comfortable with this. Many are somewhere between don't have any experience in it and simply can't be ar$ed. Same deal here in Australia and elsewhere around the world.

    You'll need to be able to demonstrate what you are able to offer that makes all the (perceived) overhead of this worth it for a prospective employer … as opposed to them simply employing a similarly skilled and experienced local and not needing to go through all this hassle.

    • Bit of talk in the office ATM about engineering job in Texas. Massive demand over there and the recruiters are well versed on the E3 visa. Couple of the boys are interested. I wouldn't mind of for a couple of years - I do flying as a hobby and Texas is one of the best places in the World to do that. And I've always wanted to own an AR-15.

  • Looks like OP has never set foot on NYC.

    • I've been to NYC, and as a tourist it's awesome. No complaints. But that's as a tourist. There's only so many times you can look at the Freedom Tower and be amazed, or find Central Park to be awesome.

      If you actually live there I'm sure the experience is quite different. The grass is always greener on the other side. I wonder what people already living in NYC aspire to. Surely they're already living in the pinnacle city on the planet? Everything must appear downhill to them.

  • ew.. goodluck!..

    Jokes aside yolo go for it - with a family I wouldn't touch the place with a bargepole but yeah.
    A lot more competitive over there too more dog eat dog and they do work much harder than the avg aussie.
    Very hustle culture and a lot of them are quite well spoken and not afraid to put themselves out there I've noticed when I was in LA…
    Lack of a social safety net make them much more hungry.. so again goodluck!

  • +2

    Moving overseas for a higher paying job perspective is certainly a strong factor, but your not purely moving over there just to do the job.

    You will be living there, and so all the factors to consider relating to living there should be also considered.

    Some factors are:

    • Lifestyle
    • Medical and Health
    • Family
    • Education
    • Safety
    • Religion
    • Morals and Beliefs
    • Politics

    It may seem crazy to deeply consider these things, since you and your partner are young 30s year olds chasing money, but consider this:

    • Lifestyle - New York is a very busy, its the city that never sleeps. There is people everywhere. Work/Life balance is generally considered none existing, aka you may have limited annual leave or you have annual leave but at just too busy at your high paying job to take annual leave.

    • Medical and Health - What happens if you get unemployed and lose your health insurance? What happens if you have to pay your own insurance? With insurance have you researched what the gap payment is really like? What happens if you have no insurance and a medical emergency? There's a reason why there is a lot of sad medical stories on GoFund Me originating from America.

    • Family - There's an old adage that says it takes a village to raise children, or at least its a little easier. Where are your parents and other relatives you are close to and love? How will you maintain that connection?

    • Education - If you do intend to have children, where will there go? Public or private? Can you afford Private? Where children grow up and go to school greatly affects their upbringing and who there friends are likely to be.

    • Safety - The main topic people will say is shooting massacres, and not just in schools, but out in public. According to Wikipedia, "A total of 40 people have been killed and 112 people have been wounded in 31 shootings, as of January 31 2025." And its only been 56 days into 2025 Source https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_the_…

    • Morals and Beliefs - How do you feel about the 2nd Amendment? Abortion Rights? You may feel these topics don't affect you now, but what if someone you knew was affected in a shooting? What if for whatever reason a female you knew was denied access to abortion?

    • Politics - See morals and beliefs and then linked that up with how the American politics system works and who gets elected.

    All of these factors may not necessarily be a priority to you, but they are factors that you should at least consider.

  • Anywhere except New York, California or Main for obvious reasons

  • +1

    If you have any assets in Australia, read up of FBAR, FATCA and the rabbothole of tax horrors you can face. Wish i had known about all of it before I became a "resident alien" years ago.

  • +4

    It's clear you're not going to take advice you claim to be asking for. You just wanted to hear people agree with you, to affirm what you have in mind already. An echo chamber. SO just do it.

    • +1

      Yes probably all advise against are making him decide to go more and more. Oh well sad to see him go. Im sure not for long.

  • Have you ever lived in New York? one thing to know is that US dollar does not go far in New York. New York is expensive, accomodation is expensive and New York gets very boring very quick. Been there done that. You will regret NY, look at other places.

  • +5

    I strongly encourage you to go - nothing I love more then seeing people think the USA is some sort of freedom camp, and realise it is essentially the 1st world 3rd world country of the globe, before you know it you'll be back for a small operation claiming medicare that everyone else is paying taxes for so you can save $10s of thousands.

    • lmao this comment is gold

  • +2

    A post that has no relevance to a bargain

  • They have over 30 trillion USD in government debt, rising at 1.9 trillion a year and their society is allergic to tax hikes. So I don't know how stable it will be in future…

    Anyway, I'd pick California over New York because of the weather, possibly San Diego. Both have expensive housing but it's worse in new York generally than most cities in California.

  • +1

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/amysarahmeyer

    She’s got great tips on how to position the E3 visa, many Aussies have relocated to the US thanks to her help!

    Heaps of free resources too!

  • +1

    Hi OP, breaking news just for you. Trump just annouced you can now buy US Permanent Resident with pathway to Citizenship:

    https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-polit…

  • NYC? If you're that rich you might enjoy the quality of life more in Australia anyway.

  • Follow your dreams, you can reach your goals, do it while you're young enough to suck it and see.

  • +1

    Hi OP,

    You'll get a lot of concern about abortion, guns and medical bankruptcies. A lot of this is projection or the person just wanting to springboard into a political discussion.

    My concern about the US is that the resilience of their economy is largely underwritten by extremely high budget deficits, currently around 6% of GDP. This is massive. Even Australia's upcoming budget deficit is likely to be only 1%. One response of Trump hurling trade sanctions and tariffs left and right is that countries may decide to reduce their holdings of US treasury debt. China has already started doing this. Its true that the USD is central in trade terms, but current debt issuings by the US vastly exceed what is required for liquidity alone.

    But there are reasons to be equally negative as far as Australia goes. Not much seems to be going right here.

    I find that a lot of Americans, at least away from the major cities, are extremely nice and well-adjusted people. In any event, I wish you all the best with your move.

  • -1

    If I had to put myself in your shoes (of relocating to the USA), the number 1 issue for me would be their current government's hostility towards foreigners taking American jobs.

    You can have personal OPINIONS about gun violence, healthcare, crime rates, etc. that a lot of the other comments here mention (I personally agree with those opinions, but I do recognise begrudgingly that they are just opinions), but there is no denying that it is a FACT that you are a foreigner and you will be taking a job away from an American.

  • +1

    Ive lived all over the world for 11 years including nyc. You cant afford nyc and will live in new jersey and catch the path train. Taxes will kill you in nyc and you aren't going make much after all the taxes, rent and living costs so it will be a lifestyle choice. Id suggest $300k usd salary would be the minimum youd need to live nyc. I rang a mate who is a hedge find manager living in nyc and he agrees. You have the chance to earn much bigger salary over time with more US experience. Maybe another 4-5 years experience but hours are long and their are no free rides in life.

  • +1

    Its a great idea, dont listen to the fear-mongerers here.

    I actually had the same dream to move in late 20s but hesitated, now with kids it's alot harder.

    Plenty more opportunities there, and more importantly, things to do.

    I live in Inner West Sydney and most people here spend their weekends doing the boring "Bay Run" and Sunday sitting at home gardening.

    • Sydney is a place for retirees not for people to have fun unfortunately. Go to neighbouring counties to have fun.

  • If you are white and have money. Who cares, just go.

  • You seriously haven't been seeing what's going on over there have you.

    • You seriously haven't been seeing what's going on over there have you.

      Pretty sure OP has seen it, and especially going over for it.

      • Better take them MAGA hats.

  • +1

    It’s a good decision to move to New York from Sydney?

    Yes.

    Any suggestions on how can we break into the job market there?

    Keep applying for roles. Plenty of tech and finance roles available in NYC (I presume when you say New York, you mean New York City?). I've gone over twice for a short secondment and suggest it. It's a great and fun experience.

    Also with the new sheriff in town, they've cleaned up NYC a fair bit. Whilst there's still a lot to go, it should be returning to what NYC was like before.

    To get an idea of rent prices in Manhattan, Brooklyn, Queens etc, check out the RE agents youtube/tiktok channels.

  • +3

    Such over the top fuss and misinformed comments here - ignore 99% of what brainrot politically motivated things people have posted.

    Your bigger problems are going to be adjusting to American work culture (Long hours, little leave, downright strange and job-obsessed coworkers straight out of a LinkedIn parody) and messy tax situations and reporting obligations are going to be what you have to deal with. Not the fuss over gun rights, abortions, school shootings and other red meat dribble.

    I say do it, worse case scenario if it isn't for you then you come back to Australia but in terms of $$$ probs only worth it for a few select white collar industries. If you're not in the professional class (tradie, educators, nurses etc.) you'd be crazy to think of it as being worth financially.

    • Long hours, little leave, downright strange and job-obsessed coworkers

      Explain how in Australia we have the mere opposite?

  • LOL from me as well. Have you even been to US and spoke to your friends, family (if any) over there? Jeez. Some people just act like they're from La La land… Good luck if you do go ahead with your decision. You will eventually come back, sorry for breaking that to you already.

  • MAGA2025!!! Explain Why you don't think so? Do you have a crystal ball that can tell the future?

  • -3

    Should be awesome

    You’re actually allowed to defend your home and family there.

    Lots of positives and cons but it depends on your needs.

    America is at peace but here you have Chinese warships only 150 miles off Sydney conducting live fire drills

    • +1

      You’re actually allowed to defend your home and family there.

      While I think people should be allowed to do that, has there ever been a time when you had a need to do that here?

      • People always point out how we can't "defend ourselves" but it is a self-fulfilling prophecy imo. The more armed the average person is, the higher the baseline of danger is across society as a whole.

        The idea of concealed carry in the US is absolutely insane to me. Like a medieval village where everyone walks around with swords and shit. Except it's 2025 with guns. I mean you could look at one tiny slice of data, that of suicide by gunshot. The per capita rate of the US is orders of magnitude higher than AU, which also dropped since a particular event in 1996.

        As terrible as it was, I wonder what kind of australia this would be without that catalyst. Would we have taken on more of the US's gun culture? That would suck balls.

        And I love guns.

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