Did you know Steve Jobs offered to license the Mac OS to Dell, telling him he could give PC buyers a choice of Apple's software or Microsoft's Windows OS installed on their machine.
@Muzeeb-Dell1?
Hey that code increased the price by 90%!
Worth mentioning it's 240Hz
Now I just need something that'll run at 240 fps
Worth mentioning it's curved 🤮
The inventor of the most popular operating system in the world which led the mass adoption of computing worldwide accused of holding computing back. What a take.
Agreed, without MS we wouldn’t have gotten a scroll wheel either
Or Flight Simulator. Or Encarta
@serpserpserp: Encarta and MS Works, I remember those bundled into CD-ROMS on my very first PC.
The old days!
@giordan0: The old days for me were floppy discs and command line interface! But yeah, it felt like rapid technology advancement when we got to CD-ROM times
Also tipped in money to save Apple.
He did that to stop MS being broken up after he had put every other competitor out of business, not like he did it out of generosity
The inventor of the most popular operating system in the world which led the mass adoption of computing worldwide accused of holding computing back. What a take.
Yes, because if MS had never existed and basically stolen DOS from Tim Patterson then one of the dozens of early competitors in the OS market definitely wouldn't have taken their place and become the global market leader and perhaps could have turned out to be far less of a monopolistic anti-competitive cancer in the computing world.
What a big brain take. Stockholm Syndrome 101. Microsoft has done as much to hold back the advancement, democratisation and proliferation of computing technology as it has done to supposedly innovate and evolve it, if not more.
Consumers around the world are forced to use Microsoft Windows not because of its inherent brilliance when objectively compared to alternatives such as Linux but because they're a captive market that are heavily invested into a computing ecosystem which vendor-locks them into using it and disincentivises using the alternatives. Never mind the corporate world, the majority of which basically can't move away from the Microsoft ecosystem now even if they truly wanted to.
Bill Gates is just another narcissistic Silicon Valley sociopathic billionaire cut from the same cloth as Zuckerberg, Bezos, Jobs, Musk, Kalanick, Altman, Bankman Fried, Holmes, et al. Anyone who genuinely believes that any of these lunatics did something noble for the greater good of humanity out of the goodness of their hearts and with no ulterior motives are absolutely clueless and naive.
What about the rest of the product MS suite. Servers and now cloud services. MS has coninued to innovate. As a publicly listed company profits are always first priority nothing different about MS.
Usability was the advantage that windows provided over competitors. That was why it became most popular.
Linux is only catching up now and is barely competitive for the masses.
What about the rest of the product MS suite
What about it? It's all f**king garbage that's still in-beta to this day.
As someone who's worked in the Infrastructure/MSP/SysAdmin space for over 10 years now, I can confidently state you have no idea what you're talking about.
Every single IT professional hates MS to some degree. Their products are simply a necessary evil to master but there's no one who genuinely feels they are the best-in-class or even remotely competitive, hell sh*t like the Office desktop apps are barely even usable anymore. Windows 11 is a f__king joke that continues to take 2 steps forward and 5 steps backward with every single new build. Microsoft 365's outages/service disruptions continue to become more frequent and widespread with every year. Their customer support for both consumers and businesses is un-f**king-believably bad.
As a publicly listed company profits are always first priority nothing different about MS.
Profit stopped being the primary motivating factor a long time ago. MS has half a trillion in assets globally.
MS's priorities have been data, control (of their customers and the wider industry) and being vertically-integrated into the defence/intelligence community for a long time now.
Usability was the advantage that windows provided over competitors. That was why it became most popular.
Not even remotely close to the reality. There were plenty of competitors in the 80s and 90s (CPM, OS/2 and NetWare) that were technically far superior to DOS and Windows. All of the big milestones were invented by everyone but Microsoft, who later stole their ideas or bought out their companies (OS GUIs were first developed by Xerox for Unix).
MS made sure their OS was bundled/shipped with the most new PCs back in the day (especially IBM) through exclusive contracts by undercutting competitors with cheaper OEM licensing deals. This was mainly directed against Apple and MS's key method of winning the early PC market OS arms race.
WordPerfect (the dominant Word Processor software in the 1980s) was deliberately sabotaged by MS when Alludo attempted to create a release for Windows, which MS crippled by not sharing the Windows API with Alludo so their software would perform much worse than MS's Word, which was released in 1983.
Microsoft Word itself was stolen by MS from Xerox, as they hired a former Xerox developer to create Word. This is the story of almost every single "pioneering" product in MS's history. Windows Media Player was stolen from Real Technologies (which resulted in a lawsuit and MS acquiring part-ownership in Real), Windows terminal servers/RDS was stolen from Citrix (their Winframe product); the list goes on and on.
"Embrace, extend, and extinguish" (meaning find some new shiny/enter a market and buy out whatever you can, milk it, turn it all proprietary/closed source so no one else can benefit and then move on to the next cash now) was an internally-used company motto at MS that came out in the Microsoft antitrust hearings. That's Microsoft 101.
Servers and now cloud services. MS has coninued to innovate.
Lol.
Their enterprise offerings, the Microsoft 365 SaaS/IaaS ecosystem and especially their gutting of on-premises server products in order to force everyone onto Microsoft 365 are easily some of the worst offences in their long history of anti-consumer practices.
@Gnostikos: So true. Can see the uninformed from a mile away. I’m assuming at least gates didn’t enjoy watching midgets on a certain island. He was and is a real douche bag. Portrays he wants to help humanity with climate change etc then goes to profit off shorting Tesla. Total scumbag Epstein lover.
@Gnostikos: Only 10 years. You have 7 years less infrastructure experience than me.
Your views on MS are as narrow your experience which i can confidently say are not only incorrect but also not shared by the majorly of real IT professionals.
Solutions need to fit needs. Unfortunately for you MS offerings often meet the needs of the majority of businesses for a variety of reasons.
Yes MS got the market share which made them the defacto. That's because windows gui was miles easier to use and was easier to train people to use.
Yes MS copied tech from others, hardky unique amongst tech companies. Do you know who Steve Jobs is? What was his view on piracy?
The argument MS kills technology innovation is ridiculously simplistic and out of touch with reality.
Now back to your dvorak keyboard since pure innovation is what matters most.
Qwerty is standard for a reason despite not being the fastest.
Regards,
A person who not only personally deploys infrastructure solutions from nay vendors both on prem and cloud as a tech lead but also performs architectural and managerial duties for large corporations.
Only 10 years. You have 7 years less infrastructure experience than me.
Wow that's awfully-f**king-convenient bro!
Lol, colour me not-born-yesterday. You give off the impression that you couldn't tell an Ethernet cable from an enema tube.
which i can confidently say are not only incorrect but also not shared by the majorly of real IT professionals.
Lol… no. Source.
A person who not only personally deploys infrastructure solutions from nay vendors both on prem and cloud as a tech lead but also performs architectural and managerial duties for large corporations.
Cool story. Which job description on Seek.com did you poorly paraphrase there?
Look, you can barely formulate sentences and/or spell English correctly so I'm going to call your bluff and say you haven't come within a lightyear of managing anything more complicated than an office birthday/Christmas party (assuming anyone would even trust you to do that). All of the of Infra SysAdmins with +10 years of experience that I know personally don't have the written communication skills of a special needs kid nor do they give two sh*ts about winning Internet pissing contests to the degree that you do.
Thank you for your valuable insights into the history of Microsoft which you gleaned from a 5 minute read of Wikipedia articles but it's really best that you don't weigh in on any computing-related discussions again because you sound like an absolutely clueless muppet when you do.
@Gnostikos: I guarantee you have a lower level of education than me. 10 year professional coffee boy.
I have post grad level IT education ontop of almost 2 decades of corporate IT experience.
I look forward to you applying for a role in which i will be deciding your fate.
Let’s not forget Internet Explorer and the monopoly lawsuits that made MS wake up
@cheng2008: IE was garbage and yes MS were (profanity) in the early day's of browser wars.
They were also the biggest tech company in the world with share holders who understood the importance of the www.
Shady practices that cost them big money.
Still the have innovated a deep product offering since then.
Don't be daft, they all steal from each other and push computing to where they want it, it's not for the betterment of mankind, it's for money
im glad it wasn't mac that went mainstream, otherwise they would probably force dell (and the rest of the PC world) to prevent DIY upgrades
Funny thing is, that happened because no one wanted MacOS. If Dell wanted to load MacOS on their computers, then MacOS would be like Linux and Windows, allowing upgrades and repairs to be done easily and cheaply.
If anything, it was Dell’s fault for indirectly causing Macs to head down the path of irreparability.
Glad dell never did it. Imagine using macOS on not built for hardware. Makes the Mac what it is. It’s a good thing we can game on windows and do everything else on Mac. They need to coexist.
Imagine using macOS on not built for hardware. Makes the Mac what it is.
No, there is no hardware built for macos, it can work on anything. apple just intentionally blocks out all hardware not on their whitelist like they always do. Thats why for certain hackintosh builds you need specific hardware. macos worked perfectly fine on x86 architecture before switching to apple silicon
Thats why for certain hackintosh builds you need specific hardware
Yes, because Apple targets MacOS for the hardware they sell. They don’t need to support unknown hardware or rely on manufacturers to provide driver support or handle an infinite configurations. It’s not an x86/Apple silicone thing. It allows a focused/solidified experience which was @basketcase86's (correct) point. The OS can be optimised because of it.
macos worked perfectly fine on x86 architecture before switching to apple silicon
Sure, but they aren’t going to continue development for hardware they don’t sell - why would they? Considering the performance and battery life of M chips, I don’t think many are bemoaning the change over except those with specific use cases (Bootcamp). My i9 MBP was very noisy & hot compared to the M1 that replaced it, let alone the performance difference.
Gates was not involved in this, Jobs actually made the deal completely unviable for dell all by himself. Jobs wanted dell to ship both on every PC and let the user decide, but Dell would have to pay Apple a licensing fee for EVERY PC regardless of whether the user picked Mac OS.
How are these OLED screens for FPS gaming? I'm worried people in dark corners will become hard to see.
Dark Stabilizer:
The feature improves the visibility in the dark gaming
scenarios. The higher the value (between 0 to 3), the
better visibility in dark area of the display image.
Hax
this will probably never land you in a situation/fight, that made you think you would have been better off without an OLED.
If anything, people hiding in the dark will be easier to see. The image quality of OLEDs is unmatched.
Great.
But there are a lot of videos of ppl around the 14-16 month mark of owning a QD oled of having pretty bad burn in.
I'm 18 months in on my DWF, I'm purposely trying to get burn in and I'm struggling. I haven't turned off my monitor in at least 6 months
I'm purposely trying to get burn in
I admire you young thrill seekers.
i feel you brother, i feel you
The time to look is after the warranty period - I’d expect a lot will get burn in around the 3-4year mark, mine lasted half that
Under warranty period so you got a new one
@serpserpserp: Most of Dell’s warranty replacements are refurbs, as was mine (which had even more hours with other issues)
Anyone know will they Dell release a 38" OLED version?
Ask samsung display
Just a heads up that the hdr1000 mode is still broken on this monitor, and dell may or may not fix it
What to use? Trueblack?
Yea, use hdr400 true black for the best experience for now
I'm still not sure what settings to use in windows and on this monitor to get the best out of it
This definitely does have dual mode 4k 240hz/1080p 480hz?
No firmware update that can enable it or anything?
Some other 4k 240hz have dual mode
This does not feature dual mode, LG WOLED models have dual models but worse color volume
OLED monitor is like white sneakers. Looks great, won't last.
L take. Keep your Plasma with you. All yours brother.
Mono CRT.
Used my LG 42" C2 as a gaming monitor for about 18 months at this point with no issues, and havent been particularly careful with it and have zero burn in.
OLED has come a long way in terms of durability, it only has this much of a negative reputation due to earlier panels (especially older OLED phone screens like the Galaxy S8).
are you speaking from personal experience? or parroting comments from reddit
1440p 360 plz
The discount code applies to their 1440p 360 hz oled 27". About $1000 with discount.
hoooooooooooold uppp
how does this compare to Lg c4, except 240hz
Interested in this too.
This has a wider colour gamut, is brighter when used on an PC, lower lag, and a much longer manufacturer warranty.
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/lg/42-c4-oled
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/dell/alienware-aw3225…
The brightness surprised me when I got a C1 a few years ago and compared it to an OLED Dell XPS 15 - the laptop was brighter than the TV too.
The C1 has the brightness of a potato tho. LG now has the best brightness in OLEDs
Anything above 50% window size the sustained brightness of the Dell is brighter than the C4.
@serpserpserp: Yeah RTings do different testing for monitors, hence the separate review for the C4 as a monitor vs the review as a TV.
Granted it’s a close race, the LG wins in some areas, Dell the other.
Even as a TV, compared to the Samsung S90D QD-OLED, the C4 is brighter with some tests and the Samsung is brighter with others. Its once again a close race.
@2025: Better explanation is that the Dell is brighter for office related work, LG is a lot brighter for most HDR gaming
What would you pick between the LGC4 42 inch and this? I play single player games mostly. 120fps seems plenty high enough.
I use my old LGCX 65 inch now but would like something smaller for playing KBM games such as satisfactory, aoe etc
C4 is actually 144hz. Bought it and its amazing
C4 for sure
Well since the C4 is a real OLED self emitting per pixel lighting. compared to this OLED backlight monitor. The choice is obvious.
Well since the C4 is a real OLED self emitting per pixel lighting. compared to this OLED backlight monitor. The choice is obvious
Umm what do you mean?
The technology is totally different
LG oleds have independant controllable per pixel organic light emitting diodes.
False advertising oled monitors, can falsely call themselves oleds because they have a single colour oled backpanel that shines lights through filters.
For starters real oleds don't have backlights.
It's all just a sham advertising trick.
The technology is totally different
LG oleds have independant controllable per pixel organic light emitting diodes.
False advertising oled monitors, can falsely call themselves oleds because they have a single colour oled backpanel that shines lights through filters.
For starters real oleds don't have backlights.
It's all just a sham advertising trick.
lol wut? Read the specs, and tell me it isn’t per pixel emissive lighting with an array of individually controlled pixels. It doesn’t have a backlight. It doesn’t have a TFT layer lmao
It is as OLED as they come
@2025: It's right there in the specs.
Aspect Ratio
16:9
Backlight Technology
OLED
Brightness
1000 cd/m2 (typical)(HDR peak)
There are 2 types of displays in the world, self emissive vs anything with a backlight….
Panel Type
QD OLED
Seriously, spend a bit of time looking at this monitor and the panel inside, and I’ll leave a spot below for you to come back and say you are wrong.
@Pittyh: There is a difference between QLED and QD OLED, I get it, all these TLAs (or four, six letter in this case lol) can be bewildering, here is a primer for you
https://www.digitaltrends.com/home-theater/qd-oled-hybrid-di…
But because a QD-OLED doesn’t actually contain any backlighting (like you’d find on a traditional QLED TV)
@2025: I stand corrected, I apologise.
I still will never buy another monitor after owning the C9 for the last 5 years, next one will be another LG tv.
This one if you have a pc. C4 for console. This one is also a bit cheaper. Do your own research tho, QD oled and W oled are very different. QD old has better colors, different coating, different brightness levels in HDR content.
I've got this monitor from the last deal, been pretty happy with it, just wish there was an easy way to switch between input source when WFH
What's the issue with switching input sources? Isn't it just in a menu? Also interested for this purpose so relevant.
Yeah it's just a menu, same as most gaming monitors. For the price I just wish it had a built in KVM, or at least a short-cut to swap.
You need a kvm switch
Interested in a monitor like this. Have a 32" 144hz VA at the moment that has been tremendous bang for buck. After a step up in quality and slightly bigger. But a 42" would be too big (sit approx 60cm from screen).
Get this, you wont regret it. You prolly dont wana use it infront of your daylight window tho. VA is terrible always has issues with blacks and smearing if its an old VA panel.
Thanks. It's a few years old, but it has no noticeable smearing or the like (i only play FPS and RTS). I explicitly selected it on this basis and its been great. Blacks are so so. I just realized this Alienware is curved and i really only want curved for an ultra wide. Back to the drawing board for me.
Hi all I'm considering this monitor, 50% of the time gaming and 50% of the time for email/spreadsheet/work.
I've read this monitor is great for games but how is redding text /spreadsheets /working from home use on these?
Thanks in advance
Been using it for work since I got it from the last deal, it’s great, colored text on the terminal looks much more vibrant.
Took me a couple of days to adjust to the curve, but can’t notice it at all after.
why is it that the 1440p monitor comes with 5 years but this doesnt?
honestly kicking myself for not getting this on sale…. its back up to its normal price on both Dell's website and JBHFI….brb gonna KMS
Somebody pls make that code work on the U4025QW or U4323QE