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Westpac Altitude Qantas Black Credit Card: 90,000 Qantas Points with $6000 Spend in 120 Days, $225 1st Yr Fees Existing Customer

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Seems decent at the reduced annual fee of $150 for Westpac customers in the first year ($295 thereafter). There is also a $75 annual rewards program fee.

In terms of bonus points:

  • Earn 90,000 bonus points with $6,000 spend on eligible purchases within 120 days of approval.
  • Earn an additional 30,000 bonus points after the first eligible purchase during the second year.

I used an old Westpac login I had and was able to get the reduced annual fee even though I had no active bank or credit card account with them anymore.

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  • Finally a good deal, shame I am in the middle of a meager points bonus with st george

    • Saw on Facebook national bank business CC offers 200,000 QFF points on new applications, but upon apply there's no way that web portal can approval anyone , not sure if they are store only offers.

      • Which national bank is that - can you be more specific?

        • +3

          Assume it's NAB

    • can have multiple cards (currently on 3)

    • Is this to protect your credit file or does holding one affect your bonus point eligibility? I am about to open an Amplify Signature with St George for 80k points but already have a Westpac Platinum <12months.
      I couldn't see anything where one affects the other in the T&Cs.

      • Offer not available if you’ve held an Altitude Platinum or Altitude Black card with Altitude Rewards, Qantas or Velocity in the last 12 months. T&Cs apply.

        • Interesting. So it could be across all 4 banks. Thanks for the heads up.

          • @Mr BoMBAStiG: It is, as it's all just Westpac at the end of the day.

            • @GS9891:

              Existing customers who currently hold an Amplify, Amplify Platinum or Amplify Signature card issued by St.George, Bank of Melbourne or BankSA, or who have held one in the last 12 months, or Credit Card Product Switches, upgrades or Westpac group staff are not eligible for this offer.

              I reckon I will be ok. St George is branded Amplify

              • +1

                @Mr BoMBAStiG: Ah if your old one was Westpac and applying for St. George now yeah, (not for this deal though).

      • Even though technically it is all the same bank, the card is different. I had Westpac in January and StGeorge in March, got all bonus points, no issue.

  • +4

    Hope the other banks lifts their game (looking at you CBA).

    • +5

      CBA has always been the worst from a credit card bonus points perspective (between the big banks)

      • +4

        CBA has always been the worst, period. Their entire business model seems to be luring in new international students for a temporarily free account, and then charging them every fee imaginable once they graduate.

        • +5

          i've been with CBA since i was a kid, so like 30+ years now.
          I'm also with all the other major banks (Westpac, NAB, ANZ) and TBH, CBA's mobile banking app is the best in the business, that is the sole reason why I stay with them. Westpac is getting close these days, but still a long way off.
          CBA saw the market early with Netbank initially, and now mobile banking. That's how they stay ahead and retain customers.

          • @jmeister: Plus the catchy

            Which bank? Commbank.

          • +1

            @jmeister: Agreed CBA is one of the best. Ubank and Up are on my top list as well. Ubank introduced passkeys which is a bonus to security.

            St George/BankSA app is the worst I've used… extremely backwards.

          • +2

            @jmeister: yeah same, I'm with CBA and their mobile app is excellent compared to the others who put very little effort.

            But their card does suck.

  • +45

    This isn’t 120k bonus points.
    It’s 90k + 30k after 12 months. Big difference (2x annual fees).

  • I used an old Westpac login I had and was able to get the reduced annual fee even though I had no active bank or credit card account with them anymore.

    cant you just sign up for a online acct and do the same?

    • +1

      And having to transfer $2000 every months just to save $5 in monthly fees? No thanks!

      • $10 in fees for 2 months and cancel the savings acct, saves you $145 on card fee for the first year..

        • +4

          Why would you need to do that when the commenter is saying that their old login does exactly what a savings account does.

          FWIW I have the same setup, my old login bypasses the 100 points ID check as well treating me as a Westpac customer therefore getting a reduced annual fee whenever I apply for a cc.

      • From the t&c of choice saver, there isn’t a need for $2000 deposit as per the current offer for the next 12 months.

        • Correct but that offer end on 30/09 and so next year when you have to apply for this cc again you’ll then have to do the $2000 in and out just to avoid the $5 monthly fee.

    • sure that could work

  • +1
  • +10

    What about this one:
    Altitude Qantas Platinum

    • 60k Qantas points in year 1, $4k spend in 90 days.
    • $49 annual fee (reverts to $175 thereafter)
    • $75 annual Qantas Rewards Program fee
    • But only 0.5 points/$ spend

    So:
    Platinum

    • 60k with $124 in fees 1st year = 484pts/$

    Black

    • 90k with $225 in fees 1st year = 400pts/$
    • Might have to factor in points from minimum spend too.

      • +1

        Might have to factor in points from minimum spend too.

        Factoring in points accumulated from the minimum spend:
        Platinum

        • 62k with $124 in fees 1st year = 500pts/$

        Black

        • 94.5k with $225 in fees 1st year = 420pts/$
        • Fair point but black gets you lounge access, not sure if platinum has lounge access

          • +1

            @Amstar: No lounge access for Platinum.

          • @Amstar: lounge access cannot be resold. so platinum is more worth it if you're not flying in the next 12 months.

            • @RTX9090Ti: how much would lounge access cost if can buy separately?

    • +6

      Need to also consider the 12 months exclusion from westpac once you churn this card. In my view, it's better just to pay slightly more for the extra 30,000 points now, knowing you need to wait 12 months to get this card again.

      • -1

        All cards have that exclusion within 12 months of cancellation.

        • +1

          NAB makes you wait 18 months.

        • Most typically have a 12 month exclusion period, but some are 18 months (American Express and NAB), and others apparently have no exclusion period (e.g. Citibank and Virgin Money).

          • @UrMumsOnlyFan: Westpac is actually 24 months now believe it or not… BankWest/St George/BankSA/BOM 24 months, NAB 18 months, ANZ 12 months. Suncorp no exclusions.

            "Existing Westpac customers who currently hold an Earth Classic, Earth Platinum, Earth Platinum Plus, Earth Black, Altitude Classic, Altitude Platinum or Altitude Black credit card, or who have held one in the last 24 months, are not eligible for this offer."

            • @OpulentLace: Yes, the news is almost a month old now.

              It is a major change for the worse, especially for those trying to chase QFF Points Club Plus.

              • @UrMumsOnlyFan: One month, hardly old news but ok… Yeah churned all the majors myself within the last 12 months and need another 100k by March 25 to roll over points club plus another year. Going to be a struggle.

                Dunno if it’s worth it but CitiBank Premier Qantas $350 fee $6k spend and 70k points and maybe Suncorp Clear Options $178 fee $4,5k spend 40k points might be my best chance if it’s even worth it…

    • I checked the deal and it's actually $119 annual card fee (not $49) for the first year (usually $175), plus an annual $75 Qantas Rewards Fee.
      https://www.qantas.com/au/en/frequent-flyer/member-offers/we…

      Edit: never mind, you have to be a Westpac member to get a $49 annual card fee for the first year.

  • What's the best current churner at the moment?

    Coming off Amex Plat in a month and will need to transfer about 380k Amex points into some program (velocity / qantas / qatar / kris / asia miles)…

    I should really put these points into the points system for my next churner. I do use Virgin for a lot of domestic flying so velocity could be the go for me, never used any other program. However I might transfer these Amex pts into Qatar as sometimes it's pretty good value for flights to Europe via Doha…

    Any ideas? Happy to churn to a high fee card as long as I can profit off it - not just break even.

    • -3

      some program

      youre welcome to transfer to my program

    • -1

      Kris is pretty well regarded.. can also transfer to velocity if you use Virgin a lot and transfer the Velocity to Kris for international travel

    • with those ANZ and NAB ones, is it worth it to keep it for 2 years to get those second year benefits, or would you still run after 1 year?

      • +11

        You run as the first points drop, wait 12 months from closing and churn again.

        • NAB you gotta wait 18 months between churn

          • @CodeXD: Dont have to spend $6k though and you don't have to already have an account with them

    • +3

      It seems to me like NAB is same points, better point earn rate (1 vs 0.75), lower min spend (though half the time to achieve that min spend) for $70 higher fee. Am I missing anything?

      Probably worth $70 but also not obviously better.

    • +1

      You're right but wouldnt this be a decent deal to run inbetween churning those 2 anyway? Given if every single month is being churned in a year, you could theoretically use 4 diff cards?

    • +2

      Agree here! NAB and ANZ are the best options IMO without any opt in fees for Qantas FF. Only thing you need to decide between is the additional cardholder fee for ANZ and not NAB (keeping in mind NAB increasing their annual fees slightly next month.

      • Retracting my previous ANZ comment, as they sneakily include the $55 opt in fee into their annual fee. NAB Qantas Signature is my stand alone go-to

    • Agreed it's not as good as the ANZ or NAB deals, but still a good deal (not sure it's worth negging)

      $225 for 90k points (plus 2x QF lounge passes), with 4 months to make the minimum spend.

  • +4

    $75 Qantas rewards fee. Refuse to pay this, it's rediculous. $75 for what exactly?
    Velocity can have my business.

    • +5

      Unfortunately the Velocity version of the card still requires you to pay $75 in order to join their rewards program

      • +1

        😅

      • +2

        Can transfer altitude poitns to velocity without a fee.

      • how can you waive the $75 fee?

          • +5

            @aero2146: It’s the bank charges towards Qantas points offering. Not Qantas account opening fee.

          • +2

            @aero2146: The fee is to earn qantas/velocity points and is payable every year. It's not to join the QFF or VFF program

          • +2

            @aero2146: If you click the link it mentions: Annual Altitude Qantas Rewards Program fee. Its not the actual FF number, but an admin fee of sorts.

          • +1

            @aero2146: Thats just a Qff membership, not westpac rewards (which again…is a joke)

            • -3

              @tunzafun001: Tunzafun001 THIS IS A BANK FEE, NOT AN AIRLINE FEE……..
              SIMPLE REALLY

              • +1

                @Tony-Abbott: Yes…a back end electronic 'connection' with no physical cost…$75. It's very much a bank fee, which I don't pay.
                They can get the transaction %.
                Never used to be a thing.. Westpac brought it in first.

    • +1

      This is fee for the CEO's yacht.

      • And money laundering fines….

    • To brag that you have a Qantas rewards card

    • Simple - easy way to squeeze extra $$ out of customers.

  • -6

    I would say ANZ is a better deal, as you only have to spend $5000 in 3 months and no requirements of being an ANZ customer

    https://cardsandbanking.qantas.com/compare-credit-cards

    • -1

      But this is still a good deal for churners, too bad im not eligible again until December this year for westpac

  • -4

    Wow these banks, all I see here is have some pretty worthless points and oh by the way have some of this stufff fees fees fees fees
    No thanks

    • +3

      I know. It's almost as if they wanted to make a profit or something!?

    • +3

      You clearly have never flown business. $225 for a confirmed business ticket is an absolute bargain.

      • I’m new to FF points and churning. Is it confirmed because this is enough points to upgrade a flight to business class?

      • +1

        Don't give them the impression that it is only points, you have to pay booking fee as well which in some cases is close the cost of an economy ticket.

      • +1

        Don't forget the extortionate taxes though…

      • Oh, and good luck with finding available "Classic" seats, especially out of Australia.

        • -2

          Easy as with status.

        • This is the key challenge, which to be fair is going to be the case with most FF programs. Millions of members competing for an extremely limited number of seats per flight.

      • you are not paying $225 to get business.

        • I'm guessing they're talking about the carrier surcharges on an award ticket.

  • Note for non citizen, westpac now is asking for a valid visa (ie. Even if you have a PR visa, you'd have to provide valid expiry date, meaning need to have a valid RRV even if you don't have any plan to travel overseas)
    This seems to be a new addition this year on westpac

    I didn't notice this with other banks like NAB

  • Is paying council rate count toward spending requirements?

    • +1

      †Eligible purchases do not include interest, fees and charges, cash or ATM cash advances, cash equivalent transactions, gambling transactions, a purchase from or payment to a local, state or federal government or government related agency, BPAY or similar transactions (such as Post Billpay), refunds and balance transfers debited from the card account.

      It may not be?

    • Government and government associated entities typically don’t count towards spending requirements

      • How about car and house insurance? I have some big spending coming in that category

        • +1

          Those should be fine

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