Dr Nick Coatsworth Who Helped Lead Australia's Response to COVID - Recommends NO MORE JABS - OPINIONS

mickrb30 on 12/06/2024 - 21:12
Last edited 13/06/2024 - 08:06 by 1 other user

Dr Nick Coatsworth makes a STUNNING admission about the Covid jab

Dr Nick Coatsworth (left) who helped lead Australia's response to Covid-19, has made a shock revelation about vaccinations for the virus. And it's not the first controversial statement Dr Coatsworth - Australia's former deputy chief health officer - has made about the Covid vaccine. HE HAS WOKEN UP _ SAYS HE WILL NOT TAKE ANY MORE JABS - whats your SAY ? ?
Will you follow his lead, his advice ?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-13520171/doctor-n…

sorry spelled typo, Opinion wrong in heading, wont let me fix it know.

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Comments

    • Chandler on 13/06/2024 - 11:19
      +5

      He's also got a new TV show… he's obviously trying to get some publicity.

    • mrdean on 14/06/2024 - 08:22
      -2

      AZ utterly poo vaccine, a shame we couldn't manufacture a better one here.

      Prof Petrovsky based in SA, & his small team were able to create one, apparently far safer than the official military countermeasures. But there was no support from government & too many roadblocks were put in his way to ever get it approved here.

      In his discussion on Senator Alex Antic's podcast here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cx-rsN8jlD4 Petrovsky makes some extremely interesting comments, if one listens carefully. It seems that his small team, with the leverage of AI, were able to wisely use technology to create a safe product. Small competent teams have an advantage compared to large conglomerates like Sanofi or Pfizer. It did get approved & used in a Middle East country, but not here. That should be no surprise, because this country is beholden to the same entities that have colonised the western world.

      • Ughhh on 14/06/2024 - 08:33
        +3

        apparently far safer

        Did you volunteer to trial his experimental medicine and support him?

        • whyisave on 14/06/2024 - 10:00
          +1

          No need.
          Dr. Petrovsky trialed his own creation but the Pf1zer CEO had not.

          Some trials were "doctored" , according to this testimonial video in the Australian Parliament …

          https://fxtwitter.com/_aussie17/status/1801129537465708928

          Senate hearing on Excess Deaths:
          Dr Jeyanthi Kunadhasan (@DrJKunadhasan) shares how Pfizer manipulated trial results by hiding deaths in the vaccinated arm.
          "At the pivotal point of Pfizer's vaccine approval in December 2020, there was a gross misrepresentation in what was presented publicly. Instead of the six deaths publicly disclosed, four placebo, two vaccinated, suggesting a benefit of vaccination. There were in fact eleven deaths with more deaths in the vaccinated arm. Six we found undisclosed deaths, especially in the vaccinated arm of this clinical trial, in contravention to legal and ethical obligations of trial sponsors."

          source
          https://www.aph.gov.au/News_and_Events/Watch_Read_Listen

          https://ijvtpr.com/index.php/IJVTPR/article/view/86

          • Ughhh on 15/06/2024 - 02:19
            +1

            @whyisave: But you didn't trust him enough to support him and let him help you?
            Did you donate to him? It cost money to start a new pharma company to compete with Pfizer etc. No wonder it failed if his fans won't even support him.
            No way he benefits from dissing competitors right.

            • whyisave on 15/06/2024 - 15:06

              @Ughhh:

              Dr. Petrovsky trialed his own creation but the Pf1zer CEO had not.

              But you didn't trust him enough to support him and let him help you?

              I was saying that he trialed his own injection.
              It was on TV or online,…I forget where I saw it.

              Pfizer CEO's Israel visit canceled because he is not fully vaccinated [Jerusalem Post, 07 March 2021]
              https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/pfizer-ceos-israel-visit…

              Bourla said in December that he has not yet received the vaccine yet because he does not want to "cut in line."

              It cost money to start a new pharma company to compete with Pfizer etc. No wonder it failed if his fans won't even support him.
              No way he benefits from dissing competitors right.

              Yes, this is true.
              He was alone in spruiking his wares to the government(s).

              • Ughhh on 15/06/2024 - 18:30
                +1

                @whyisave: Dr. Petrovsky wouldn't make a vaccine if he didn't think it was worth making- that covid doesnt exist and the impact from covid wasn't serious enough. So does @mrdean agree with Dr. Petrovsky that covid is serious and vaccine is needed. Or does he cherry pick and only agree on things that support his agenda, and would still be against his vaccine?

      • Zephyrus on 14/06/2024 - 11:04
        +6

        Got a link to his experimental results beyond a phase 1 trial of 40 people?

        I suspect he's kept quiet about it because it didn't work as well as the competitors so no-one would be interested in replacing their existing vaccines with it. You want to look for a profit motivator, he's the one who directly profits from selling it.

  • ozhunter on 12/06/2024 - 21:36
    +1

    he stopped about two years ago….😂

  • Gareth on 12/06/2024 - 21:38
    +76

    "Stunning admission", "Shock Revelation", "Woken Up".

    My opinion? Stop fighting 2022's wars. No one cares any more.

    • MrThing on 12/06/2024 - 21:48
      +4

      yawn, we still fighting over the covid jab from checks notes 2020-2022

    • ssfps on 13/06/2024 - 00:06
      +1

      You realize the "emergency" legislation changes are still there, right?

      • Chandler on 13/06/2024 - 11:23
        +10

        Mind linking to them?

        Looking at QLD's one, it's expired

        • ssfps on 14/06/2024 - 01:11
          -4

          I looked, but can't find it (as in, can't find any of the legislation, i can't remember which act(s) had the amendments).

          From what I remember for WA, they added a bunch of clauses for state of emergencies, and I don't recall seeing any expiry attached to them, and I haven't seen anything about those changes being retracted. When the state of emergency ended, it was discussed in the news that they no longer apply.
          They also made it easier to declare a state of emergency, but I also can't verify whether that was rescinded.

          I seriously doubt they've rolled everything back given what I read at the time, but I'm happy to be proven wrong if somebody digs up all the covid and vaccine related changes from the last few years.

          • mrdean on 14/06/2024 - 08:31
            -1

            @ssfps: Correct. It's a brick by brick approach. Building the framework that will enable future agendas under the guise of public safety.

          • pkol on 14/06/2024 - 17:55
            +14

            @ssfps: “I can’t find any evidence to back up my claim, therefore it must be correct. If anyone else wants to do research to prove me wrong I’ll ~move the goal posts~ take it on board”

            • ssfps on 14/06/2024 - 18:22
              -2

              @pkol: That's a moronic characterization of my position.

              These laws went into effect - nobody is debating that. So, why the hell is the burden of proof on me to show they've been repealed?

              I had difficulty finding the laws at all - to prove it one way or the other - it's not a lack of evidence for my claim. Unless you're arguing that there are no public health laws, state of emergency laws, etc? That question is rhetorical, it's obvious you're just strawmanning with some terrible pattern recognition.

              • Gehirn on 14/06/2024 - 18:58
                +5

                @ssfps:

                So, why the hell is the burden of proof on me to show they've been repealed?

                No, the proof is being asked of you that they are still there. Not their repeal. As you say:

                You realize the "emergency" legislation changes are still there, right?

                It is not a strawman to ask for evidence of your assertion.

              • buckster on 14/06/2024 - 22:21

                @ssfps: You say it's a moronic characterisation, but it was an accurate characterisation.

                Sounds like an admission that the comment was moronic

              • Typical16-bitEnjoyer on 16/06/2024 - 10:57

                @ssfps: Ssfps - Show us EVIDENCE vaccines are safe.
                also Ssfps - I don't have to show evidence for any of my claims.

    • El cheepo on 13/06/2024 - 00:10
      +12

      Stunning admission

      From the people that bring you the “stunning and brave” D grade influencer news comes the makers of this 💩 post

      No one cares any more.

      /thread

      • ssfps on 13/06/2024 - 00:14
        +9

        If nobody cares, why does every covid related thread attract large post numbers?

        • El cheepo on 13/06/2024 - 00:34
          +13

          Like many controversial topics, many don’t actually care but many have an opinion.

          And some, like my self, are just are in it for the entertainment factor.

          • ssfps on 13/06/2024 - 00:35
            +4

            @El cheepo: joke's on them, i was only pretending to be retarded

        • smartazz104 on 13/06/2024 - 09:14

          People are like flies.

    • justworld on 13/06/2024 - 00:46

      Most of us didn't care in the first place about a virus that is less dangerous than influenza for those under 40, that is easily controlled by 2 doses of vaccine and that in any event ran its race after the first 18 months.

    • Nebargains on 14/06/2024 - 23:12

      For real. People can recommend to get them or don't get them, reality is it is 2024 and very few people are getting them and very few people are even talking about covid. Legitimately don't remember the last time someone told me they had covid.

      • sirstiv on 15/06/2024 - 09:16
        -2

        Memory loss is a symptom of the jab lol

        • Ughhh on 15/06/2024 - 10:15

          Imaging studies done in people before and after their COVID-19 infections show shrinkage of brain volume and altered brain structure after infection

          You must've had covid like a 100 times. My condolences.

  • MrThing on 12/06/2024 - 21:47
    +24

    my OPIONS is that you need to go back to school

  • bargaino on 12/06/2024 - 21:54
    +55

    For anyone unaware, use of the word "jab" is a dog-whistle for conspiracy-theorist political nut-jobs.
    Though you can also recognise the crazies by the use of ALL_CAPS. Remember, you can't argue with stupid.

    That said, the health department is not recommending boosters routinely for everyone now. The need for vaccine mandates to protect the vulnerable passed once we got through the initial waves.

    • fantombloo on 12/06/2024 - 23:03
      +11

      A few years ago I was listening to a podcast where a couple of Americans were talking about COVID shots but then referenced an English article that mentioned COVID jabs. Interestingly they picked up on this difference and ended up opining (opioning? 😜) that the word "jab" seemed too violent, like being "jabbed" in a boxing match. Seems "shots" means much less to Americans than the rest of us. Anyway…

      • smartazz104 on 13/06/2024 - 09:13
        +12

        Seems "shots" means much less to Americans than the rest of us. Anyway…

        They're used to getting shot everyday…

    • TheDolphin on 13/06/2024 - 07:40
      +5

      You can argue with stupid but all you get is a stupid argument.

    • Sinnerator on 13/06/2024 - 08:31

      and big pharma destroying lives for profit is completely false also !1!

      • Ughhh on 13/06/2024 - 13:24

        You don't take any panadol etc?

    • sardines on 13/06/2024 - 11:26
      +1

      There is also mixed messages with vulnerable people and no clear guidelines. I had 5 jabs so far but never produced a response in blood tests. When i got covid i still didn't produce antibodies but saved by monoclonal antibodies. I asked specialist if i should get the vaccine boost later in the year and he shrugged as no clear data on transplant patients of its effectiveness who dont get a response measurable in blood tests. I talked to another specialist and she said worth getting as there is more at work than what a blood test shows.

    • trapper on 13/06/2024 - 13:07
      -2

      The need for vaccine mandates to protect the vulnerable

      This was never actually true though.

      The vaccine did not prevent transmission.

      • bargaino on 13/06/2024 - 13:37
        +5

        I assume you've been told this a thousand times but block your ears.

        For others: when everyone catches it at the same time, hospitals are overwhelmed and many people die. Vaccines reduce transmission. And also severity. This avoided the horrors seen overseas, the millions of deaths. But trapper does not care. He is young, they were old, or middle aged or fat, or immune compromised. Or just very unlucky.

        • sardines on 13/06/2024 - 14:22
          +5

          Also healthy vaccinated people tended to shed less virus partials and the infectious stage was shorter. For example If people at my work all got the flu vaccine, there is significant statistical less chance people with any immune disorder will catch the virus. This is one reason why healthcare workers got the vaccine — to reduce their risks and also reduce the risks of passing on the virus to their clients/patients.

          • trapper on 13/06/2024 - 14:39
            +3

            @sardines:

            Also healthy vaccinated people tended to shed less virus partials and the infectious stage was shorter.

            It made no difference at all; covid spread effortlessly even through highly vaccinated populations.

            • bargaino on 13/06/2024 - 16:54
              +4

              @trapper: I see a lot of emotional language, but no science. Do you understand propagation rates? Doubling times? Viral load? These have important consequences. It is not a simple binary question, as the scientifically illiterate conspiracy theorists imagine.

              Could it be that what you are trying to say is "What is the point of vaccination if most people are eventually going to catch it anyway?"
              Is that your question?

          • bigticket on 14/06/2024 - 13:59
            +2

            @sardines: Getting back to real science, there are literally no studies on covid transmission.
            What you are parroting is purely opinion based.

            "Also healthy vaccinated people tended to shed less virus partials and the infectious stage was shorter"

            is nothing more than BS.

        • trapper on 13/06/2024 - 14:37
          -1

          Vaccines reduce transmission.

          It's outright lie to say this about the covid vaccines, they did absolutely nothing to prevent transmission.

          But trapper does not care.

          I care about correcting your factually untrue statements.

          • bargaino on 13/06/2024 - 16:50
            +3

            @trapper: e.g. https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanwpc/article/PIIS2666-6065(23)00248-1

            For index cases, being fully vaccinated with an mRNA vaccine reduced the odds of onwards transmission by four-fifths compared to unvaccinated index cases.

            Not all results were as good, but none were zero. 80% is "absolutely nothing"?

            • trapper on 13/06/2024 - 18:10
              -3

              @bargaino: Which was clearly insufficient to make any difference at all.

              COVID-19 spread quickly and easily across the whole country as soon as lockdown measures were ended.

          • Ughhh on 13/06/2024 - 20:22
            +7

            @trapper: You seem to struggle with understanding the difference between prevent and reduce. Interesting.

            • trapper on 13/06/2024 - 20:41
              -2

              @Ughhh: It sounds like you believe there was a 'reduction' in the spread.

              In reality, COVID-19 spread quickly and easily across the whole country, with vaccines having no impact.

              • larndis on 14/06/2024 - 08:14
                +2

                @trapper: On what basis to you believe you know what the spread and mortality would have been without vaccination?

                • CrowReally on 14/06/2024 - 09:46
                  +2

                  @larndis: Are you questioning the credentials of the University of Facebook degree in Virology?

                • trapper on 14/06/2024 - 09:50

                  @larndis: Maybe there is some misunderstanding of my point…

                  Was there any part of Australia that COVID did not reach? No.

                  It spread everywhere, quickly and easily, as soon as lockdown measures were lifted.

                  • larndis on 14/06/2024 - 18:23
                    +1

                    @trapper: There is definitely some misunderstanding going on…

                  • buckster on 14/06/2024 - 22:27
                    +4

                    @trapper: It spread rapidly because the flat earth allows for the viruses to simply float, there are no curves which block or interfere with the path the viral particles travel.

                    Just another thing these damn vaccine pushing lizards don't want you to realise.

    • gfjh567gh3 on 19/06/2024 - 15:00
      -2

      You must have forgotten that politicians and health experts normalised the term 'jab'.
      They likely did not want to use the word 'vaccine' because MRNA does not meet the traditional definition of a vaccine.
      Not that several dictionaries have changed the definition of vaccine since

      • bargaino on 19/06/2024 - 15:07

        Sounds suspect. Anyway, the original definition was "pus from cowpox sores" - vaccinae means cow.

        • gfjh567gh3 on 19/06/2024 - 15:11
          +1

          Yes, agreed. Prior to 2019, the definition revolved around attenuated organisms to provide immunity to a particular disease. Modern definitions now revolve an injection leading to an immune response. Quite a distinction.

          Personally, I feel that good hygiene (Sewerage plumbing), potable water, and safer food (refrigeration) is the number one contributor to eradicating disease - disease numbers were trending down by the time vaccines were introduced (smallpox, polio)

          Don't forget that the greatest medical innovation of all time was…. surgeons washing their hands before surgery.

          • bargaino on 19/06/2024 - 15:19

            @gfjh567gh3: That is not your personal feeling, but common knowledge. You have no special wisdom there.

            Why play down vaccination though? I don't understand the mentality.
            Bacteria were the biggest killers, but that does not mean viruses like smallpox and AIDS are unimportant. Hygiene does not negate vaccination.

            • gfjh567gh3 on 19/06/2024 - 15:37
              +1

              @bargaino: The context is that vaccination is being heralded as the solution to all health issues in this modern medical system.
              Vaccination used to only receive regulatory approval if there was no other treatment.
              Added to that, new vaccines are MRNA or viral vector, not attenuated virus.

              Vaccines are one of the few medicines that you can administer to HEALTHY people, and Governments are willing to pay the bill.
              In the past few years, Governments around the world kept people on house arrest unless they were vaccinated. I hope you can understand why many people are unhappy with that policy, and are concerned that similar policy will be pushed in future.

  • JimmyF on 12/06/2024 - 22:03
    +22

    Your title is misleading… He didn't recommend no more jabs like claimed, he said he wasn't getting any more.

    BIG difference.

    Regardless, this is his opinion. This guys credibility was gone a long time ago.

      • morse on 13/06/2024 - 06:33
        +38

        He says he’s has 3 and doesn’t believe he needs more. He didn’t say don’t get any nor did he say blinded, experimental, suckers, conspiracy, lizard people.

        • May4th on 13/06/2024 - 09:57
          +14

          he didn't deny lizard people existed either.

          WAKE UP SHEEPLES

          /s

          • jhaley3180 on 13/06/2024 - 10:27
            +2

            @May4th: I can confirm I'm a lizard person🦎

          • ColtNoir on 13/06/2024 - 12:29
            +1

            @May4th: Thank you for putting the “/s”. The fact that I thought it could actually be a post someone could write is quite alarming.

    • Chandler on 13/06/2024 - 11:28
      +15

      Exactly. Literally from the article OP posted:

      'Are you still being vaccinated for Covid?' Fordham asked.
      'No,' Dr Coatsworth said.
      'When did you stop doing that?'
      'About two years ago, I had three vaccines, and that's been enough for me.'
      'Any reason why?' Fordham asked.
      'Because I don't think I need any more Ben, and the science tells me that I don't,' Dr Coatsworth said.

      So, in line with current recommendations (from ATAGI etc), Coatsworth has not taken any further vaccinations after his initial three doses.

      Headline should read: "Dr Nick Coatsworth follows public health recommendations regarding vaccination".

      Hell, he even says as much on that last line: 'the science tells me that I don't [need any more],'

  • localhost on 12/06/2024 - 22:30
    +28

    Dailymail… another proper source of information.

    • PhilosophicalTurtle on 16/06/2024 - 00:46

      Fear is good for business when stupid people pay with their attention.

    • Typical16-bitEnjoyer on 16/06/2024 - 11:03
      +1

      Dailymail is the best source of influencer gossip, celebrity scandals, immunological studies and hit new fashion trends.

  • SBOB on 12/06/2024 - 22:32
    +7

    Well, if it's in the Daily Mail it must be both a stunning thought provoking article that proves everything and also mainstream media click bait

    I'm unsure what side of the fence to land on….

  • Muzeeb on 12/06/2024 - 22:36
    +1

    OPIONS

    Not the onion?

    mickrb30

    I think discussing your RB30 would be more exciting Mick. Great donk.

  • p1 ama on 12/06/2024 - 22:47
    +14

    Dr Nick Coatsworth makes a STUNNING admission about the Covid jab

    Can we please cut the bullshit headlines?

    The vast majority of people have not had more than 2 (or potentially 3, including a booster) doses of COVID vaccines. Whilst COVID is still around, it has mutated into a form which is more transmissible, but less deadly. This is what virologists have predicted since the start of the pandemic based on similar viruses we have studied in the past.

    HE HAS WOKEN UP _ SAYS HE WILL NOT TAKE ANY MORE JABS - whats your SAY ?

    Sighs, it can't just be that objectively the virus has gotten better at evading vaccines and is less deadly over time?

    Political tribalism and an inability to question one's own beliefs is a cancer on society.

    • ssfps on 13/06/2024 - 00:12
      +5

      This is what virologists have predicted since the start of the pandemic based on similar viruses we have studied in the past.

      That was not the general messaging in 2020 nor 2021, and in 2022 the government and media were still discussing the 4th boosters and beyond.
      I'm not defending this clickbait article, but there is a strong tendency to dismiss the insanity of 2020-2022, lest we remember.

  • noz on 12/06/2024 - 22:57
    +5

    Is OPIONS the new BONUT?

    noz on 12/06/2024 - 22:57 (Collapsed - Offtopic. Show)
    • Muzeeb on 12/06/2024 - 23:17
      +6

      That's great advise.

      • DashCam AKA Rolts on 13/06/2024 - 02:29
        +3

        Never tyre of getting great advise.

        • iCandy on 13/06/2024 - 07:21
          +4

          Here here!

    • Chandler on 13/06/2024 - 12:30

      They're onions that are high (heh) in opiates.

  • Clear on 12/06/2024 - 23:28
    +2

    Has anyone tried the new Banana shake at Maccas? Opions?

    Clear on 12/06/2024 - 23:28 (Collapsed - Offtopic. Show)
    • spackbace on 13/06/2024 - 00:25
      +1

      Hoping it's like banana nesquik

      • Clear on 13/06/2024 - 12:57
        +1

        Mine were out but had the banana caramel pie. That was amazing. If it was just banananana I'd be happy.

    • morse on 13/06/2024 - 06:20
      +1

      It is my unpopular OPION that artificial banana flavour is only acceptable in banana lollies. Faily mail says Dr Nick agrees.

      • altomic on 13/06/2024 - 08:04
        +8

        Dr Nick has had a Banana shake at Maccas, AND HE IS NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY MORE

  • El cheepo on 13/06/2024 - 00:12
    +14

    Im just here to watch this discussion spiral out of control.

    Carry on.

    • EightImmortals on 13/06/2024 - 07:35
      +4

      I knew where this was going after I saw the first speeling misteak. Opportunities to avoid the topic of conversation don't come around like that very often. Especially on the internet.

      • El cheepo on 13/06/2024 - 10:06
        +1

        And yet, the op provided more ammunition.

        sorry spelled typo, Opinion wrong in heading, wont let me fix it know.

        How can we be sure he isn’t a double agent for big pharma? - cue x files music

      • CrowReally on 14/06/2024 - 09:53

        You make a good point, if we look past the OP's obvious errors, we have a great opportunity as a community to review and discuss things the Daily Mail has decided to publish.

        • EightImmortals on 14/06/2024 - 09:56
          +1

          I guess if it were only the daily mail you might have a point. :)

  • May4th on 13/06/2024 - 05:56
    +6

    I actually agree with some of his points there but Coatsworth lost his credibility a long time ago. He's no better than the youtubers that make sensationalist clickbait content for clicks. He is clearly fighting to stay relevant to angle for a political run at some point

    • parsimonious one on 13/06/2024 - 07:45
      +4

      👆 💯

      He’s even got himself a spot as a tv doc to keep his face in the spotlight

      https://www.9now.com.au/do-you-want-to-live-forever/season-1

      • May4th on 13/06/2024 - 09:49

        Oof that's cringe worthy

      • Miss B on 14/06/2024 - 21:10

        With Tracy Grimshaw of all people. He's also involved in the Eucalyptus /Juniper weight loss drug scam stuff. He doesn't care where the money comes from. I'm guessing this article was to drum up viewership for their show. It could be the drug business he's involved in, but the show seems more likely given its meant to start in a few days.

  • morse on 13/06/2024 - 06:15

    Or you could just follow these recommendations based on your age, personal health factors and in consultation with your GP https://www.health.gov.au/our-work/covid-19-vaccines/getting…

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