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[VIC] DGTek FTTP 1000/1000 $89/M for 9 Months, 150/150 $59/M for 9 Months & More (Limited Areas, New Customers) @ Pineapple Net

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Pineapple Net is a reseller of the DGTek private fibre network, an NBN challenger primarily located in Melbourne, but also with some buildings in New South Wales and Queensland. From https://gizmodo.com.au/2024/05/pineapple-net-internet-plans-…
Which was a great read.

If you're lucky enough to be in the areas they service their plans blow NBN out of the water(I'm not). They sound like the old Aussie broadband before they listed on the ASX (customer service focused).

Also they have a referral service for 1 month free. Help em grow their service so they can expand their reach and topple NBN.

Check your address.

Note: This is not NBN FTTP. DGTek FTTP is only available in very limited areas near Melbourne CBD and some South Eastern suburbs.

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  • +5

    Any deal on Avacoda net ?

  • +53

    My goodness I wish they were in more locations! Proof that it isn't that hard for consumer fibre internet to be symmetrical. F you NBN

    • +15

      Support em by spreading the word about PineAppleNet until Australia is PAN and not NBN.

    • +5

      NBN could flick the switch tomorrow and give everyone on FTTP 1000/1000, but the people stuck with copper and HFC would feel aggrieved. David Littleproud would be on TV asking why rural people were being left behind without an ounce of self-awareness.

      It should have been a public utility from the start, not the (profanity) disaster it's been forced to become because it needed to be plumped up and sold.

  • +40

    1000/1000 even off discount at $119 p/m is insane

    • +4

      I know ay, I did a double take at the $59 a month 150/150 plan esp the 2nd number. I pay $65.80 for 100/20 on More😂

      • How are you paying so little for that ? Is that before or after the CBA discounts? I have 100/40 for 79.

        • +1

          After CBA discount of 30% and it's 100/20 not 100/40

    • +3

      Its bananas!

    • Yep (and upvoted your comment), but I'm happier that it is $89, as I can now justify it to my better half as that is same as paying at moment for worse speeds.

  • +10

    I wish there were more locations. The symmetric upload just makes it worth it

    • +1

      Yep, hopefully this deal gives em more business so they can expand

  • +8

    Sorry, unfortunately Pineapple Net is not available at your address but we hope that will change soon.

  • +14

    Glad to see NBN competition, really looking forward to faster upload in my area.

  • +10

    It'd be nice to have an alternative to the Non-existent Broadband Notwork…

      • +25

        Nah it’s a strung-together mess. Thanks, Libs, for another quality effort!

          • +57

            @Clear: You were just lucky you got some of the legacy FTTP build from the previous Labor government. Any area that wasn't too far into the build to reverse, was scrapped by Abbott/Turnbull for FTTN or FTTC. In my area it took them years to roll out crappy FTTN, and only after we ditched Morrison did I finally get the chance to upgrade it to FTTP. The Libs wasted a decade of productivity and tens of billions of dollars on a network not fit for purpose. And they pretend they're good economic managers. They're a joke.

            • -1

              @dontpanic: Correct. I didn't expect anyone to know that.

              • -1

                @Clear: Dirty Neggers looking stupid thinking dontpanic is wrong. That's exactly what they did. They honoured it.

                • @Clear: Uh?

                  • @dm02: I basically said the same as dontpanic except he got the votes and I got a shit ton of negs, so I removed the comment.

            • +6

              @dontpanic:

              Any area that wasn't too far into the build to reverse, was scrapped by Abbott/Turnbull for FTTN or FTTC.

              All thanks to that prat Murdoch.

      • +1

        It might work "flawlessly" but I bet your not on 1000/1000 for $89 p/m.

        • +6

          My not is.

        • -5

          I don’t need 1000.

          I average 265 on a 250 plan

      • +6

        Mine is stuck at 25mbps - they won't even let us order a plan above 50 if we want to - and we wouldn't reach 50 anyway — and it drops out when it rains.

        Not so "flawless" for m-

        Oh it's JV. Why bother.

      • +3

        At a flawed price

      • +2

        It's a pity your argument is flawed… as expected though, so kudos for consistency.

  • -1

    Insane price…if I needed gigabit upload.

    • -4

      Don't generalise

      • +14

        How are they generalising? They’re talking about their own needs, not others.

        • +5

          They changed their comment. The original one said 'who needs symmetrical upload in a residential setting'.

  • +2

    Great deal on the 150/150 but seems very limited availability.

  • @ Pineapple Net

    @ Apple Net…. @ Pineapple Net…

  • +12

    Coverage map - https://check.dgtek.net/
    Seems like this is pretty much only available in Melbourne

    • +6

      I love that a 100 year old house in melb can get faster and cheaper internet than me in a 1 year old house in Sydney

      • +5

        100 years > 1 year?

      • +35

        It's waited for much longer.

    • +2

      They could have just listed the suburbs that are available, rather than providing an address checker.

      • +6

        free market research to size up where to expand to next

    • +3

      This is misleading, my folks address is serviceable in the above link but the pineapple website says service unavailable.

    • Damn, whatever dgtek is, their coverage ends 2 streets from me!

      • +1

        They may still connect you, just a matter of paying six figure quote.

        • +1

          Even if you’re in the coverage zone you might get quoted 5 figures to get connected.

          I asked one of the DGTek RSPs since I was in the DGTek coverage zone and it was around 30-40k to pull the cable and get the hardware set up.

    • Oh so yes, maybe might hit Pakenham in 10 years time

    • Damn. 1 street away from me :(

    • I did some random searches of addresses in the red area but they all say 'not available at your address' , e.g. 32 Clarendon Street, South Melbourne VIC, Australia

      Can anyone find a Melbourne address (or any address) that this service is available to?
      Sounds like a marketing exercise and they are not available anywhere yet.

      • +1

        Yeah I've got it (it's amazing, those upload speeds chefs kiss). I live in a high-rise though and I've mostly only seen it available to other high-rise buildings

      • +1

        Yes, my apartment building (on City Rd, Southbank, Vic - so just around corner from yours) has availability and I signed up.

        From the posts on Whirlpool (including https://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/348yj183), it seems fantastic.

  • +1

    Australia’s Premuim Fibre Optic Network

    Premuim

    • They’re so premuim their speed tiers are in “Mpbs”. Megas per bitsecond.

  • +8

    @ Pineapple Net

    Are they on the Pizza Network?

    • If they are then the whole Lygon Street is a missed opportunity.

  • +4

    Still quite a while until it’s available at more locations than just inner Melbourne, but still upvoted for spreading the news. We deserve better services than NBN.

  • +1

    Blimey. I'm about 500m north of where the network cuts off at Moreland Road. Would be keen on this for sure if the network expands further!

  • +2

    I think its $89 per month for 9 months and not just the first month.
    Went till the final page using dummy details and this is what I could see
    https://imgur.com/a/qAUV5MT

    • Curious to know where about you are located. I've checked Vic Collins st this is not available.

      • lonsdale st

  • Bummer, only bananas at my place.

  • +1

    I'm hoping the 70 upvotes means that's 70 people saying it's good and worth signing up to?

    • +2

      Nope it’s just thirsty ozbargainers lusting at that sweet symmetrical bandwidth dreaming their nbn daddy will show them these speeds someday.

  • +2

    This and the TPG FTTB deal makes me wonder, wtf is NBNco doing?

    • +14

      Attempting to provide a service across Australia rather than cherry picking high value markets.

      • Exactly

      • +1

        Owned by the government, a lot of advantage with start up build costs. They should be doing a lot better than they currently are.

        • +2

          Coalition…when idiots cause you billions of dollars of rework because they went against you sound technical advice and demanded you reuse infrastructure that was not fit for purpose.

          • @tsk2: Well, in their defence, they were voted in, with the NBN being one of the "us vs them" between Labor and liberal at the time. No idea how it got up and voted in, so thanks libs and the rest of the voting citizens!

  • +3

    Moving to one of these buildings just for this deal!

  • +11

    This is what NBN should have been

    • +8

      The NBN could beat these speeds, if they wanted to, at least on the part of the NBN that was designed by Labour, the FTTP part.

      With FTTP, the original plan was to run a couple of spare fibres in every fibre bundle. These could be used for a separate higher-speed network. Current NBN runs on 2.4GPON, i.e 2.4Gbps, which is split to provide for up to 32 users.

      2.4GPON is old technology, better speeds are now available. NBN themselves have been talking about NG-PON2, which can provide 10Gbps symmetric to each user: https://www.nbnco.com.au/blog/industry/gpon-vs-ng-pon2

      With the spare fibres already in place, all that is required is to add a new GPON splitter wherever there is demand for these high speeds. Which is relatively cheap to do, and won't affect anyone on the existing 2.4GPON network.

      However, upgrading just the FTTP network isn't sufficient, you'd also have to upgrade all the undersea fibre links as well, and they're already running at the maximum speed that current technology allows. And that's really expensive, as new fibres will have to be laid.

      And therein lies a problem, as the bits of the NBN the Libs did (HFC and FTTN) are more expensive than FTTP in two ways: maintenance costs are higher, and many of those customers can't order the higher-speed (and more profitable) NBN plans. Both of these factors cripple the profitability of the NBN, so upgrades aren't being done as quickly as they should be.

      • +2

        However, upgrading just the FTTP network isn't sufficient, you'd also have to upgrade all the undersea fibre links as well, and they're already running at the maximum speed that current technology allows. And that's really expensive, as new fibres will have to be laid.

        This is nonsense by the way.

        Most content is held on shore through caches and other utilities, and overseas links isn't not a concern for NBN. Internet providers deal with that issue.

        • +2

          A large amount of international traffic is encrypted, caches can't touch that.

          • @Russ: Not sure what you mean by that.

            If you watch Netflix or Youtube for example - that data is encrypted between you and the server, but that content is still hosted locally on a cache.

            • +1

              @DogGunn: Those companies have their own local caches, or pay a local provider to do it for them. Smaller companies don't bother, and modern web browsers try to enforce secure connections, so access to most overseas websites is encrypted.

              Also just look at the number of OzBargainers who are apparently using VPNs to get cheaper subscriptions to Spotify and Netflix, that traffic is encrypted. Let alone the people using encrypted torrents.

              • @Russ: Look two issues with this:

                1. International traffic is a minority of the internet traffic of Australia. Most data hungry content is served locally via caching. International connections are capable of being upgraded and consistently are.

                2. International connections are not an issue or really a proper concern of NBN.

                • +1

                  @DogGunn: In reply to your points:

                  1. If international traffic is x% of total traffic at the moment, it will continue to be x% when everyone's speed increases. So the amount of international traffic will increase.

                  2. International connections are a concern for the NBN, but not directly. NBN's competitors are primarily the mobile network providers, and they have considerably larger scale than most NBN RSPs. It is a weakness of NBN that the individual RSPs have to purchase international traffic themselves, or go through an aggregator. Both of these factors make international traffic through the NBN more expensive than the deals the mobile network providers can obtain, due to their size. So if data speeds go up, RSP expenses go up at a higher rate than will be experienced by the mobile network providers, squeezing the profit margins of the NBN RSPs, which makes them increase prices. Which makes NBN less desirable for consumers, so they move across to a mobile network data plan - as we're already seeing. Fewer customers for NBN is definitely something that NBN is concerned about.

                  Edit: Optus and Telstra have already funded parts of some international fibres, which must make their costs significantly lower, or they wouldn't do it.

      • +3

        nbn are going with XGS-PON for the FTTP network. The Nokia OLT being used can support 25GS PON, 50G PON, and 100G PON.

  • I use Google wifi, does this ISP use dhcp for quick automatic churning?

    • It does - but you're likely going to need a FTTP build out to your house. And also they don't serve NSW yet.

  • Not that they can service my address but with these other fibre companies… if you want to connect do they need to run fibre to your premises and install an NTD like device?

    • Sure is. As long as it's a PON network, it requires an ONU. NTD is just NBN's play on the name of an ONU.

      • +2

        NTD also applies to HFC connections, I think NBN just wanted to have one "name" for all such devices. It's describing the device by what it does, not what it is.

  • -1

    Cherry picking markets vs. NBN which is meant to provide a base level of service across Australia.

    • +2

      Why this base level is so low? What is wrong with providing at least 250/250 for a reasonable price.

      • -2

        Apparently they are increasing it. Probably something about country/city divide and cross subsides; honestly you’d have to look at the what the legislation sees NBN needing to deliver.

        • +1

          The legislation comes from the same people who created NBN.

  • +1

    Yeah that's the problem for private fibre ISP - they don't reach far enough to most subscribers.

    Still symmetrical speed sounds amazing and really should be the norm.

    • And the OP should really point out what "very limited" coverage really mean.

  • +11

    Unobtainable for 99% Australians.

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