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Tesla Model Y Inventory: RWD fr $63,780 (Was $65,700), LR fr $71,970 (Was $74,700), Perf. fr $82,210 (Was $84,700) + ORC @ Tesla

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First post. Looks like the Tesla Model Y's pricing is going down and down as they are trying to clear out stocks with silver wheel caps and no HW4.

Note: These pricing are based on white colour (which may not be available in all locations)

Model Y RWD from $61,980
Model Y LR from $70,170
Model Y Performance from $80,410

$400 Order fee
$1,400 Delivery fee
On-road cost (varies with state)
Estimated delivery: Should be quite fast as it is inventory stock

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        • -2

          why not? get money from centrelink and buy instead of spending on drugs.

      • +1

        Well, kind of make sense. They can afford to buy one. Don’t have to pay petrol, no Vic dodgy ev tax, no service cost, pretty good reliable vehicle, great software updates, excellent sound system, pretty reasonable okay drive, excellent pick up, good storage. Why wouldn’t the Indians in the west buy this instead of anything petrol/diesel or an ev from Merc/BMW?

      • +3

        It's because in Melbourne West, it happens that a lot of Indians live in the new housing areas (outer suburbs) that have terrible public transport so they must commute to work, which makes EVs perfect for that kind of driving. It's the same in Sydney although not limited to Indians, but a trend seen in outer suburbs after electric vehicles became more "affordable" after the introduction of the Tesla M3.

        https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-03-11/electric-car-sales-in…

      • Its not just Tesla's that they are buying, there are lot of BYD's and even EV6's and Polestar.

    • +9

      Why does Musk make a certain type of person so upset? People will swear that they will never buy a Tesla because of him but happily buy a Volkswagen…

      • +6

        I think the main reason is that Volkswagen isn't pretending to be some hero of the people slash super world saving genius.

        • -8

          Volkswagen is not a person.

          Elon Musk is a genius.

        • +16

          They did pretend to be geniuses with diesel emissions tho

        • +1

          Hypothetically, what would someone have to do to meet your criteria for super world saving genius?

        • +2

          And Tesla single handedly hasnt changed the renewable energy landscape in the world? Only if people could see what is being done rather than what is being said.

        • +1

          Volkswagen isn't pretending to be some hero of the people

          Uh, yes they were. They talked about and released this amazing technology that could allow people to drive diesel and somehow magically reduce emissions significantly.

          But they were no hero. They just faked the exhaust for a minute.

          • @watwatwat: Hardly the same thing. They were just faking standard emissions tests.
            Edit: I say "just" but it was obviously bad, they just weren't making out like they were heros

      • +1

        Because they are mentally ill

    • +1

      Source?
      The build quality for the Australian vehicles are superior to the US by a long shot

      • They aren't better at all, the quality is the same. As in both good.

        • +1

          I agree. I own a US made Tesla and have driven China made Teslas. There's no difference in the quality. Panel gaps are consistent, zero interior rattles, zero issues in general. This idea that the US built ones are badly put together is rubbish from people who don't actually have any experience with them.

        • Chinese is better from my experience.

          I own a 2020 model 3 performance from the US. Park it at super charger next to the newer model Ys from China and the panel gaps really stand out on all the doors.

          Panel gaps don't really affect the car in anyway but it's not great quality control.

          I reckon it's lesss obvious with the blacker trims but the chrome trims on my 3 really highlight how bad the panel alignment is.

          I've also got a rattle in a door still have 6 months warranty hoping they can fix the door rattle.

      • +5

        Are you daft or what? How dare you ask a factual question from emotive crowd with pitchforks? It might be the safest car ever tested in the history of Euro Ncap, has the most efficient EV powetrain and does not have mandatory service intervals to keep your warranty (a cash grab the other manufacturers still adhere to) but Elon bad, Tesla bad.

    • All true but sales are not that bad I hear

      • +1

        Down 8.5% in last quarter

        • Eh that's nothing considering it's Chinese New year quarter and the amount of Tesla's China now sells in China.

          Everything pretty much shuts down for about 2 months in China, the fact it's not down more on the quarter is impressive.

    • It’s easy to just comment something random with no actual data. “Poor quality and reliability”?!

  • LoL 🙂

  • FYI, L & P holders can only drive the base model.

  • +1

    So this one from a few days ago, will we get another one in another few days from now where they're even cheaper? How low is too low??? https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/839573

    • +2

      EVs depreciate faster.

      • -3

        Much faster than they accelerate.

  • What would be the drive away price? Add 5-10k? Luxury tax etc?

    • +1

      Click on the link and it will tell you?

      Drive away price depends on state.

  • I would prefer a BYD Seal Premium or Performance model over a Tesla. And all the BYD Seal models come in at a lower price point than the Model Y.

    • +6

      Have you driven both?

    • I have been for a spin in a BYD seal performance 3.8s. Build quality seems good, and the launch of the line is insane. To early to tell about long term quality, esp in the QLD climate.

    • +11

      No mid size SUV buyers will cross shop for a performance sedan. you make no sense and i'm a Seal owner.

    • +1

      SUV compared to a sports sedan lmao 🤣 what type of car you actually looking for?

    • +10

      They have lower servicing costs and lower running costs. Yes, do your research.

      • +3

        But higher insurance which is nearly double of my petrol car.

        • +4

          My insurance is much less than my similarly priced ICE car.

          But the running cost savings are eaten up by the premium on purchase over an ICE vehicle.

          • +1

            @edman: It’s not really a premium. The Tesla model 3 competed with the BMW 3 series, and is much cheaper. Gotta compare apples to apples

            • +1

              @Jigram: But the Teslas aren’t really comparable to the euros. I’ve had exclusively euro for the last 20 years and they aren’t close no matter how they were benchmarked during concept stage. Fairer comparison would be to Koreans.

              But my comment was more in reference to the EV premium to ICE, particularly where there are the same models available with different drivetrains. Tesla M3 I would say is comparable to Accord/Camry et al which is a significant difference for EV vs ICE.

              The comparisons to euro come about because of the price points but you aren’t really comparing apples with apples. Having said all that, I’m still reasonably happy with my model 3

              • +1

                @edman: I haven't seen a decent euro car in Australia. Most are absolutely rubbish compared to the Tesla to the EV Volvo's or polestars and the Tesla is just years ahead.

                The bigger euro trucks just feel like trucks when driving them, the Teslas feel lighter and far more nimble.

                Drove a mates Porsche cayenne, and I'd prefer a model y lr over it to drive. Admittedly the interior of the Porsche was a bit more slick but id still prefer the Tesla screen.

                Then look at the servicing costs on a euro.

                His Porsche is not even 4 years old already done 4 services adding a little over another 5k in costs all up, while my model 3 of same age just had its first service and didn't need anything but tyres.

      • -5
        • insurance cost is more than saving on servicing cost
        • battery pack = cost around 1/3 of the price of the car. All your savings less than the battery pack itself. Resale value= poor.

        Anything else you want to add?

        • +14

          Australians spend $4815 per year to keep their vehicle running on average, the Drive survey revealed. This equates to $92.35 every week.

          Fuel or electricity accounts for up to 38 per cent of that, or an average of $1813 per year.

          Comprehensive insurance is the second-biggest expense, taking $1697 (35 per cent), followed by vehicle registration at $878 (18 per cent) and servicing costs at $427 (nine per cent).

          Driving an electric vehicle will save you between $1320 and $3070 every year on average compared to petrol, diesel and hybrid-powered cars, the data revealed.

          An electric vehicle recharged exclusively on solar power will save between $820 and $2570 in fuelling costs. Electric vehicles are also cheaper to service by an average of $465 over the first three years.

          In Australia, Tesla offers an eight-year, 160,000km warranty on the Model 3 and Model Y battery and drive unit. It extends this to 192,000km for the Model 3 Long Range and Model 3 Performance, as well as the Model Y Long Range and Model Y Performance.

          At that point, the battery should still be able to hold 70 per cent of its original capacity. If it drops below 70 per cent before this threshold, you might be entitled to a free replacement under warranty.

          Considering that Australians drive an average of 12,000km per year, this means a Tesla battery could last you up to 40 years – although you'd probably reach 1500 battery cycles first.

          “How much does an EV battery cost to replace?” is a common question asked by drivers who are considering going electric – and by those skeptical about electric cars.

          And it’s a fair question – as fair as it is to ask, “How much does it cost to replace a car engine?”

          According to Canstar, the cost to replace an engine can range from $4,500-$28,000 on average, depending on the make and model of the car.

          As Canstar notes, there are a wide range of other expensive repairs for internal combustion engine (ICE) cars that don't apply to EVs, such as replacing cylinders ($8,000+), transmission repairs ($200 – $5,000+), replacing head gaskets ($1,200 – $3,000+) and camshafts ($1,200 – $1,500+).

          These, plus the added maintenance and servicing costs of an ICE vehicle can all add up over the lifetime of a car. Because there are fewer moving parts, there are less costs associated with maintaining an EV.

          • +4

            @Agent Q: Agreed. My previous ICE (Landrover) was 8yo, had a catastrophic engine failure out of the blue at <100,000km. I was told the only fix was to replace the engine for $45k.

            I'll never ever buy an ICE car from any European maker again. Japanese ICE maybe.

            But since buying an EV, it'll only be EV from here on. No more buying diesel and giving money to some rich Saudi, no more stupid servicing fees, no more complicated engines to worry about, no more diesel fumes. Love it.

            The EV-haters: keep driving your ICE cars. Keep the Saudis in business

          • +3

            @Agent Q: Love when people say they have lower servicing costs. No kidding…
            But don't forget the fact that EV's cost ~15k+ more than their ICE equivalent and you pay for it up front.

            Ie: Kona base model = ~36k DA.
            Kona base EV = $54k DA. (Sure it has a little bit more tarted up interior, but $18k buys a ton of fuel and servicing)

            • +1

              @Maz78: Kona prices them like that doesn't mean you have to buy from them, especially since some of them are just converted from their existing ICE model (hence the cost is higher). For $54K, there are way better options check out BYD Atto 3 etc.

              You should be comparing the EV with the ICE which gives you the same level of quality driving, convenience, experience etc. For example, Tesla Model 3, for 60K, arguably you can't find any ICE sedan under 100K that drives better…

              Funny enough I saw in the prior post a few days ago that someone comparing a Brand NEW model Y with an old Mazda 3 cost him just $4000, whining that EVs are too expensive than ICE, and refusing to compare model Y with the similarly priced RAV4 hybrid.

              • @NoBargainNoLife: "For example, Tesla Model 3, for 60K, arguably you can't find any ICE sedan under 100K that drives better…"

                You really think the Model 3 is better than a spec'd 2 or 3 series? Better than an RS3 / A45s?

                • @Maz78: You are right but those RS3 A45s are over $95k I think my point still holds to some degree and I said arguably not definitely. I owned 320i for three years then did a fair bit research and test drive before buying model 3. Never looking back despite the BMW is pricier.

            • @Maz78: Many people bought their EVs under novated lease and effectively paying 45k to 50k over the life of the lease for a 70k EV including running costs so I dont think it's as simple as that.

              If you were indulgent enough to buy the ones that aren't eligible for FBT exemption I guess you are either silly to ignore the massive total ownership cost difference or shouldn't care since you are too wealthy

              I personally couldn't care less about these discounts or resale value because my model Y RWD cost me next to nothing to run in the last 18 months. I also make at least 600 bucks a week doing food delivery on the side and charging for free using a free charger near my house. My novated lease costs me less than 700 per month out of pocket including all running costs so even if the car is worth zero after a few years, i wouldnt bat my eyelids

            • +1

              @Maz78: In the US, the Tesla Y costs the same upfront as a Toyota Camry.

              Savings on the updront cost will come over time and wider adoption (which is indicative of the original post).

              • @Agent Q: That's fantastic. If you live in the US..

          • +1

            @Agent Q: Depreciation is the biggest cost. When people work out their cost of ownership over 3-4 years depreciation dwarfs any other expenses.

          • +1

            @Agent Q: Of everything that was written, the most important part:

            “How much does an EV battery cost to replace?” is a common question asked by drivers who are considering going electric – and by those skeptical about electric cars.

            It actually doesn’t say, it just goes on about cost to replace ICE engines etc. would be good if it actually listed a range for a battery replacement. They were able to have a range for engine replacement..

            • @Iwantthebestprice: 'Tesla has released a rare update on the battery degradation in its electric cars. The automaker claims its batteries only lose about 12% of capacity after 200,000 miles'

              The battery will outlast the life of the car for most people.

          • +1

            @Agent Q: The biggest questions is why all the big car manufacturers put a halt on plans of making electric cars if its saving people money? Only the Chinese car are cheap enough + more economical to buy. I agree if the car is around $40k-$50k mark but a Tesla Y ….. i dont see where the saving is. Your calculations is based on an assumption we all have solar + engine trouble when its over 100000km. I have own a few Lexus(4) + Toyota (3), fortunately none have engine issues…..even over 200 000km. All they all have great resale values and very easy to sell.

        • +5

          I would rather buy an EV with 320000 km and ~88% battery life, over an ICE car with similar KM.

      • I think solar is a big part of the equation. Without it, the savings are negligible.

        • +2

          Only if relying on public charging, you can still charge cheaply paying for power off the grid

          • @edman: Correct. Overnight (and midday) it's cheap electricity

      • +1

        Get in an accident and replace a panel, see how cheap it gets.

      • +1

        Wait til the cost per 1,000Km tax kicks in. Then "Do the math"

      • +4

        Let's do some cost analysis.

        EV's on average cost ~$20K more than ICE equivalents upfront. That ~20K roughly equates to 10,000L fuel, which will drive you 100,000kms at 10L/100. Australian motorists on average drive about 15,000kms annually and therefore breakeven point is around 6 - 7 years, only if you solely charge your EV from rooftop solar. It will take even longer if you use public charging or grid electricity at home to charge your EV. Any savings on service cost are offset by more expensive insurance and tyre wear (EVs are 30% heavier on average). I would argue that if you invest that extra $20k that you paid upfront in shares or ETFs (S&P 500 for example), breakeven point will stretch way past 10 years.

        In my opinion, it will make more sense to buy an EV if you drive 30,000kms or more annually. There won't be any cost savings if you drive 10,000kms or less per year.

        • +3

          Give me the ICE equivalent for Model Y which costs 45k, offering the same level of everything. Please, just one.
          Otherwise why not just compare it to a Corolla, then say EV is two times more expensive than ICE.

          • @NoBargainNoLife: Model Y is $67,000 with on road costs.

            Toyota RAV4, Kia Sportage, VW Tiguan, Mitsubishi Outlander, Hyundai Tucson, Nissan X-Trail, Subaru Forrester, Skoda Karoq and the list goes on…… Most of these have way better fuel economy than 10L/100km, so breakeven point will be even longer.

            Equivalent Chinese ICE cars will be cheaper still.

            • +2

              @dealhunter52: I dont see any of those that would even be called close to model Y at all. Handling, acceleration, autopilot.. the list goes on.
              Model Y outsold the long-time best-selling SUV RAV4 for many reasons. Book a test drive then you will know.

              Remember, ALL EV drivers had ICE, they know the pros and cons, then you hardly see anyone looking back to ICE. While most EV haters never even test-drive any EV, they just don't understand and pretend they know everything and assume EVs are the same as the cheap ICE, not to mention within EV world, there are good and bad EVs.

              https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-news/tesla-model-y-was-the-…

              • @NoBargainNoLife:

                Model Y outsold the long-time best-selling SUV RAV4 for many reasons.

                RAV4 is currently one of the best selling SUV around the globe. It currently has more than 12 months waiting in Australia while Tesla already has problems moving Model Y stock and hence the price cuts. Just because Toyota can't produce enough to cater demand doesn't mean model Y is outselling it. It's just one of the models in Toyota's line up of dozens of models.

                I'm not a EV hater but just being practical. Majority of Australians don't have budget of $67K for a family car. It's not fault of consumers that Tesla doesn't have a product to cater for sub $50k market. I would buy a Model Y for $50K in a heartbeat with cut down features and less bells & whistles. Fact is that other car manufacturers are able to cater for different market segments but not Tesla.

                • +1

                  @dealhunter52: The data was for global hence it is valid. Tesla also had the same good worry a couple of years ago I waited for my Model 3 for a good 12.5 months back in 2022.

                  The second part is indeed a fair comment. I agree we can't just buy a model Y because it's cheap, which is not. We say it is cheap as it offers much better functionality and driving experience, compared to those more costly premium ICE e.g. X3, Q5 etc, and running cost is just a bonus and not the ultimate determinant.

                  For saving only I would choose ATTO 3 or anything even cheaper in the future say 40K ish would be great, but people still buy Model Y because it is nicer than those cheaper EVs.

                  • -1

                    @NoBargainNoLife:

                    For saving only I would choose ATTO 3 or anything even cheaper in the future say 40K ish would be great.

                    LOL…in that case, it's fair to compare Chinese EVs to Chinese ICE cars like Haval Jolion or MG ZS or Chery Omada etc and that means $12K - $20K price difference will still stay.

                    • +2

                      @dealhunter52: I think I made my point clear enough, you don't ask good stuff to be cheap, and you don't ask cheap stuff to be nice. If you are looking for ultimate savings, probably get a second-hand bike from curbside.
                      Again, go and test drive or just stick to your ICE as you wish, we EV owners enjoy every time we drive, and every time we wake up with a full tank. It is a lifestyle thing, people would never understand until they try.

                      • @NoBargainNoLife: People use cars to travel from point A to point B. You can do that in $19K MG3 or you can do than in $2 million supercar.

                        At current prices EVs and ICEs are not at par….period. Once they are, we won't be having this argument as EVs will crush ICE car industry. Until then, people will keep buying what they can afford.

                        • -1

                          @dealhunter52: Until then, you will be arguing cheap EV is the same as the premium EV, because people just use to travel from A to B….

                          • @NoBargainNoLife:

                            Until then, you will be arguing cheap EV is the same as the premium EV, because people just use to travel from A to B….

                            I never said that and the reason I didn't compare Tesla EVs to GWM, MG or BYD EVs. Get a grip mate.

                            • @dealhunter52: I just don't understand why you keep comparing a good stuff with a cheapy then whining it is too expensive. Like I mentioned multiple times, you should never compare Model Y to 45K ICE, they are not in the same tier.
                              Model 3 drives even better than BMW 3, in that sense it is too cheap. but you insist to compare it to a coralla then saying it is too expensive…..I cant help.

                              • @NoBargainNoLife:

                                Model 3 drives even better than BMW 3

                                Is that a fact or just your opinion? Majority of the world will argue a Camry drives much better than a Model 3.

                                • @dealhunter52: LMAO "Majority of the world will argue a Camry drives much better than a Model 3."
                                  You really should have said this to me much earlier to save me time….
                                  Go test drive, it's free.

                                  • @NoBargainNoLife: Well…you started the joke by comparing Tesla to BMW. I will test drive one, once they drop to around $40K, which might be pretty soon at this rate.

                                    • @dealhunter52: LOL my previous car was an 320i and now someone doesn’t own any of which trying to say I am joking.
                                      At least google for real owners’ comparison not just living in your own hypothetic. It is alway amazing to see people like you never sat in a EV but keep giving opinions.

                                      • @NoBargainNoLife:

                                        At least google for real owners’ comparison not just living in your own hypothetic.

                                        Most of the Tesla owners complain about the bad quality control and shoddy workmanship. They also complain about basic things like lack of instrument cluster and other physical buttons to control aircon etc. Just because you're Tesla fanboy doesn't mean you speak for everyone.

                                        You seem to have been triggered by the cost analysis of mass market EV SUV vs ICE SUV. By the way, we will find out this year if Model Y can outsell RAV4 as EV sales are declining globally.

                                        • @dealhunter52: Again you don’t own any you just use the hearsay to argue with owners that is really brave and unfortunately..stupid.

                                          I never compare the premiumess, cabin luxury and material used but the overall driving experience if you read properly. Again, just google what I said to see if I am the only one holds those opinions especially from who has the first hand experience.

                                          The workmanship was bad but that really an old song, not relevant any more since the production for AU switched from USA to Giga Shanghai a few years back already man.
                                          Try to be on top of the news at least, since you purely rely on hearsay.

                                          The only reason I replied your first comment was to point out the your comparisons was completely wrong from beginning. You are comparing good stuff with cheapy and whin EV expensive as I have mentioned several times. Not your fault as you just don’t understand them since you never tried any.

                                          I gonna stop from here as I don’t see the point educating someone refused to know what’s going on overall the world.

                                          • @NoBargainNoLife: Can just stop selling me an overpriced car with useless gimmicks instead of functionality that I need? I hope you enjoy the premiumness of your car while waiting at a charging point when travelling interstate or regional Australia. Watching fanboy samples like you in long queues this holiday season was so funny. Early adaptors and people with deep pockets like yourself, who wanted to buy one have already bought one, now market forces will take it from here.

                                            Many households with just one car have learnt the lesson hard way. No wonder EV sales are dropping now.

                • @dealhunter52: You're basically in the $60K ballpark if you do a novated lease on the Model Y including residual if you are on the highest tax bracket. Once you account for the rego and insurance bits of the lease then you're basically paying $55K for the car. Not quite your $50K but pretty close. With the inventory stock it may work out to be ~$52K.

                  Edit: Not trying to sell you an EV but simply responding to the $50K statement. This is why there are so many on the road. It is comparable price to ICE for many of us.

                  • @microsnot:

                    if you are on the highest tax bracket.

                    That's the main issue. If I was on the highest tax bracket, I wouldn't be doing EV vs ICE cost analysis, I would just buy one because it would make sense with tax benefits.

                    Still, I believe the EV price trend is moving downwards. Prices of critical battery minerals like Lithium, Nickel and Cobalt have recently crashed, which will further reduce battery cost and will start reflecting in EV pricing in coming months. In my opinion, EVs will achieve price parity with ICE equivalents in about 2 years.

                    Biggest challenge to mass adoption will still be insufficient EV public charging infrastructure and until it improves drastically, households with only one car will be reluctant to switch to EV. Our major cities are so far apart and we all love travelling during holidays season. Everyone want to enjoy and have good time rather than doing meticulous route planning to find public charging station on the way, only to find a long queue of cars waiting in front or worse an out of order charger.

      • They have lower servicing costs and lower running costs. Yes, do your research.

        This is a myth, according to EU, running cost of Tesla is as bad as euro cars. But data based on model S.

        • This is rubbish, almost everybody I know with a Tesla has serviced it only once or twice in about 8 years.

          Tyres are about the only expense in those first years.

          Compared to a euro that's costing about 1500 plus mimimn on its third service or major drive.

          Compare my Tesla at 40k 4 years no service required, mates Porsche suv around same age distance already on 4th service and over 5k spent already.

    • More info please

    • +1

      If you're referring to the high depreciation, it's because almost everyone gets the FBT exemption… So you save that money during the novated lease, but it is then reflected in the used sale price.

    • +1

      Says the guy may at best driven it once lol

    • +4

      I have spent literally $10 in charging costs for the last 8000 kms I have driven mine. No servicing either.

    • +1

      What your research say? You don’t even own one so easy to vomit something random.

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