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Review: https://www.flatpanelshd.com/review.php?subaction=showfull&i…
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TCL 65” C845 Mini LED Google HDR TV (2023) $1525.50 ($1,491.60 eBay Plus) + Delivery ($0 C&C) @ The Good Guys eBay Store
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Waiting for C835 prices
largely OOS now
What I meant was I'm waiting for the C845 to reach C835 prices.
~$1100ish and then I might pull the trigger
ah, 55 was like 1190 at appliance central for a while when on backorder. now 1280 for 55
What I meant was I'm waiting for the C845 to reach C835 prices.
That will happen right before the release of the C855, then you'll be saying the same thing about that…
Found $1,650 for 75 inch, is that a good deal? Or better go for C645 or C745?
https://applianceswarehouse.com.au/product/tcl-75inch-4k-min…
EDIT: ignore, factory seconds… no deal.
Would love a deal on the 75inch ! Still waiting
will get one at this price for 75"
Will have to wait a few years haha
Heard there were issues with these that werent around in the c835, just do your research before buying this one everyone.
Worth noting that whilst he is a good and knowledgeable guy remember that our region gets different versions of tvs especially prominent with Hisense and TCL. They are definitely worse than the US or even UK models.
Sad as so many good reviews for these overseas
TCL have confirmed they're the same. Even dodgy Hisense generally would give us and Europe the same TVs.
It's just USA that gets special treatment because it's a very large, competitive market with higher expectations of quality.
remember that our region gets different versions of tvs especially prominent with Hisense and TCL.
This is a myth that constantly does the rounds in here. The only manufacturer that does this is Hisense.
This review is very favourable overall. Vincent even recommends this C845 as the best value TV available.
One part of the review I think is not well covered is a use case for the TV in a bright room (eg with lots of windows). That’s where this TV really shines, despite some shortcomings with colour accuracy and consistent brightness across modes. OLED is still unsuitable for most people’s lounge rooms with it’s low average brightness levels.
LG Display OLEDs are very bright and have the best anti-glare coating available on any TV. If you have direct sunlight hitting your TV you should control the light or move the TV.
@tp0: LG C3 has an average scene brightness of 200 nits, with a peak of 800 nits. The C845 has an average scene brightness of 800 nits and a peak of 2000 nits. It’s not comparable.
Move the TV is a silly suggestion.
@Broos: SDR real scene brightness of OLEDs like the C3 is around the 500nits mark, not 200.
I’m not sure what your source is for the TCL since the North American models RTINGS reviews are different.
DO NOT buy anything from TCL.
If you look you will find heaps of complaints about products and repairs.
I am currently in the middle of legal action against them. I had a 75" TV die after 3 years, 6 months and 8 days. Under Australian Consumer Guarantee legislation, a product sold must be fit for purpose and durable, lasting as long as a reasonable consumer would expect items to last regarding price, quality and use. Australian consumer advocate Choice, states that a TV of low to mid-tier quality, which TCL fits, should last 5 to 8 years. A search on Google shows many electronics sites that estimate about the same. An average of all the places I could find gave an average of 6.3 years.
TCL will not cover any product outside of its warranty term, which is 3 years. You cannot talk to anyone in the Australian office as all calls and emails go to the Phillipines. There was a case against LG years ago for the same thing, where their staff misrepresented their obligations under Australian Consumer Guarantee legislation, and they were fined substantial fines by the ACCC.
In addition, the legislation specifies what is a major fault and what is a minor one. A major fault is one that renders the device unable to be used for its primary purpose. In the case of a TV, that is watching things. A minor one would be the sound not working, or the remote not working. Minor ones can be repaired (all costs including transport to be paid by the supplier, not the consumer) while major ones have to be replaced with a device of at least equal specs or a full refund made.
A warranty does not override the consumer guarantee but is considered to be in addition to it. TCL has a shocking history of noncompliance with the ACG if you go by the comments made on the internet, not only in Australia but worldwide. This also includes items under warranty. For example, not covering TVs mounted on walls or near heaters, despite no mentions in any documentation, or being in homes with open fireplaces or where smokers smoke in the home. Read up before you buy, or you may find that your cheap TV will need to be replaced a lot sooner than you expected.
Samsung, for example, quotes up to 11 years expected life for it's TVs.Good luck with that… LG and Samsung only offer 1 year warranty. TCL is still generous with 3 years. People will always complain !!!
As I said, warranty is irrelevant in Australia. Australian Consumer Guarantee law is the only thing that matters.
I am not saying you are in the wrong here. Of course we would want our products to last longer. However in the real world this hardly happens. Take for example LG refrigerator - 10 year warranty on compressor but only 1 year on rest of the parts. All these big brands would stop selling their products here if all of us took them to tribunals after the expiry of the warranty. There is reason there is warranty and not a guarantee.
@azhar7772: Except that it has nothing to do with me. Its Australian Law.
According to the ACCC a fridge should last for 9 to 13 years. That is therefore how long you are covered for. The warranty is irrelevant. All the brands know about the law, and usually comply, but TCL is known for its non-compliance. The laws have been in place for years and nobody has stopped selling products here.@thesilverstarman: thesilverstarman is right, and so many people still don't seem to get it..
The ACCC does trump manufacturer warranties, end of story!
Those "no refunds" signs that some shops hang, mean nothing either. By law they must provide refunds under certain defined conditions, else be subject to fines.
@Grish: Anyone stupid enough to buy from a place with a "no refunds" sign deserves to be ripped off.
"No refunds" is code for shop somewhere else.
You don't understand the Australian Consumer Guarantee laws. If you go to the ACCC website, you will see that they advise that you do not need extended warranties because the ACG laws cover this. The whole idea of the laws is that products need to be durable. ACG laws apply to everything sold, including cars. It amazes me how many people do not know about this. Every warranty now states that it does not override ACG and that you have rights in addition to the warranty. The warranty is irrelevant now.
I can understand your anger and frustrations, you want your exectronics to last 10yrs, I am also a TCL customer, I want my TCL TV to last 10yrs minimum. But sometimes these electronics does not last and I only paid the bargain price. I have to move on, and life goes on. my 2cents.
The consumer laws are pathetically weasely and vague. Nowhere in there does it say how long anything should last.
Instead of giving an actual time frame that say things like “reasonable time” that don’t mean anything.
Say your tv blows up after 4 years. You say that’s not reasonable, tcl says it is. Now you have to take them to court. And whatever the court says only applies to your specific TV. Another person in the exact same circumstances have to go through the same process start to finish.
If the ACCC just said “tv warranties have to exceed five years” that would make it better for everyone because everyone would know what the deal is.
@KentT: It doesnt give times, but because of the huge variations in products, it says that they should last as long as a "reasonable consumer" would expect, having regard to price, quality and use. Choice is a consumer advocacy group. So their guides help to inform a consumer as to what is reasonable. Notice that it up to a reasonable consumer, not the retailer or manufacturer.
I'm not sure why so many people are acting like a company being forced to provide a minimum standard of product quality is controversial.
But I will say these companies respond to profit motive, meaning we need to make it too expensive to deliver unreliable products, holding them to account when they do, by forcing them to incur cost to fix their shoddy work is exactly the correct course to take. In the long run this will mean it's cheaper for them to just do the right thing in the first place.
You are taking one for the team @thesilverstarman keep up the good work.
Thank you.
I have seen this stuff play out with used cars and even new cars. It changes the power dynamic, putting power back in the hands of consumers.
I know that places like consumer affairs and Vcat can take time. So I lodged a civil case in the magistrates court. They have 28 days or I can get a court judgement against them. Or they can elect to go to court, which will be in a country town because that was where it was purchased, so is the appropriate jurisdiction. It would be hard to argue that they are not covered, as I have found numerous places online that have tested TVs, including TCL and have real data on expected lifetimes. I'll see how it goes, but it frustrates me that we are just supposed to sit back and accept crappy products and services.but it frustrates me that we are just supposed to sit back and accept crappy products and services
Who is sitting back and accepting it? You have rights and it sound like you are exercising them, and many others do the same thing every day.
This sounds like a glass half-empty scenario, you have rights, you have a good case and will probably win, you should be happy that we have these rights as you will likely get a new TV out of it. The glass is full. Cheer up.
I am currently in the middle of legal action against them…
Under Australian Consumer Guarantee legislation…ACL liability is between you and the reseller, not the manufacturer. Unless you bought it direct from TCL your legal complaint is not with them
ACL liability states that sellers can seek reimbursement from the manufacturers.
This or the Sony?
I really want HDMI 2.1 and 120hz for my Series X.
I currently have a terrible EKO 55" and have done some of the online calculators and 65" is pretty close to the sweet spot for my room. We have proper blackout curtains and they only get opened rarely.
X90 is definitely the better pick, some might tell you go TCL as it has miniLED but Sony has better control of their backlight algorithms so their FALD is better than TCLs MiniLED.
X90 is definitely the better pick,
And twice the price…
Finally one really good deal since July!!!!!!!!
But I will hold more until Nov/Dec
Hoping for good deals on black Friday for 75 inch or larger OLED
TCL are utter crap.
My TCL locks up frequently (have to pull the plug as remote doesn't respond), sometimes apps just won't load, have to reboot, daylight savings times are out by a few months, and if I turn off auto time, I lose internet access on it.
When i bought it 2 years ago, i saw mosy good reviews but they are rubbish.
3 year warranty.
I’d recommend using affordable TVs as just screens - ignore the smart features. The first thing companies cheap out on is the processors. So buy yourself an Apple TV or Google Chromecast and enjoy the screen with a separate powerful streaming box.
For my next TV I will make sure it comes with a new MediaTek Pentonic chip: https://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=…
Honestly, I’d still recommend grabbing an Apple TV 4K. It’s unbeatable as a Smart TV platform. TV companies, even those using decent processors, stop supporting them within a year or so. Sony is the worst for this.
Even the LG OLED TVs are best paired with an external streaming device. Smart TVs are a gimmick. Get the best panel you can and add and Apple TV, you’ll be way better off.
The first thing companies cheap out on is the processors. So buy yourself an Apple TV or Google Chromecast and enjoy the screen with a separate powerful streaming box.
Almost every TV and streambox is using the same Mediatek chipsets with ARM cores. Even the Apple Bionic is based on ARM, so it's all the same stuff…
That’s a ridiculous thing to say. You just bundled the entire ARM architecture into a “it’s all the same” bucket. Which is no different to bundling all x86 architecture products into a single bucket. You clearly have no understanding of processors or APUs.
The Apple A15 used in the latest Apple TV 4K is 82% faster in single core and 77% faster in multi-core than the MediaTek MT9615 in this TCL C845. The A15 also has twice the RAM. This makes for a much stronger smart TV experience.
You have no idea what you’re talking about.This makes for a much stronger smart TV experience.
Lol… Didn't release that strength was the SI Unit for Smart TV experience measurement…
You have no idea what you’re talking about.
"much stronger smart TV experience" lol…
Not a bad price on this 85" Hisense mini-LED either:
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/115871290364$2245.5 + $80 delivery.
Usual price is $3495, but its currently on sale for $2495.
Pls correct me if I m wrong, but this TV was fair a bit cheaper back in July?
Inflation + lower Aus $$ exchange rates
Possibly but also different times of year have different sales and prices. Its always been the case. Retailers have to have not so great sales around the really good ones to confuse customers. Could you imagine if all retailers only had 1 big sale and no others throughout the year, every one would wait for that sale and they would get no income the rest of the year haha
Last years model is only 1300 at appliances online ebay store
TV is like house, price go up in time
Also an extra 2% off for eBay Plus members (AUG12).
I ordered a little bit ago, $1545 delivered.