Guy on Tiktok Reckons We Don't Have to Pay Compound Interest

So this came up in the discussion about the gloating never pay credit card lady https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/767026

@KangaDrew and @rumblytangara mentioned it so I thought id make another thread

Original video (but not sure its the original account that posted it?):

https://www.tiktok.com/@indiigoassetmanagement/video/7207709…

Scott Pape / the Barefoot Investor guy mentioned it in the same newsletter as credit card woman

The questions came in like a hurricane.
They were all asking about a viral TikTok video by an Aussie who had uncovered an ingenious ‘trick’ to beat the banks and stop paying interest on your home loan.
It quickly amassed 5.1 million views.
(That’s, like, 5 million more people than watch The Project each night.)
So I clicked on the link.
A bearded dude was sitting in front of an impressive bank of computer screens filled with stock market charts.
He began:
“Hey everyone. I don’t usually do these sorts of things. I’m not a big TikTok user, but what I am good at is finance and understanding how to beat the banks. So I’ve got a couple of people that I’ve given this advice to and everyone’s been telling me that I should make it public. So here we go.”
And then he went on to reveal his big secret:
You can ‘stop’ compound interest accruing on your loan completely by simply … paying your normal repayment plus $1 per day.
Huh?
He continued:
“You will pay a big fat zero in interest, absolutely zero in interest, and you will end up cutting your mortgage from 25 years down to about five … and you can do this with credit cards, you can do this with car loans. Anything that has a variable interest rate, you can do it and you can beat the banks.”
And just in case you missed the point, here it is again:
“Just stop paying interest. Nobody out there needs to be paying interest.
I know what you’re thinking – surely the banks would HATE this knowledge being leaked, right? I mean they would go broke (or broker, in the case of Credit Suisse).
Don’t worry, he’s onto it:
“So the banks don’t like this. They don’t like this knowledge being out there, and they will try to stop you. They will send you ‘cease and desist’ letters. They will try to stop you from doing it, but at the end of the day, they can’t. If you get a cease and desist letter, once you start doing this $1 a day payment thing to your financial institution, ignore it. What are they going to do? Take you to court and say, ‘Oh, Your Honour, he’s paying too much’. It’ll get laughed out of court. So if you want to beat the banks, beat them by not paying compound interest.”
Okay, in our home, ‘stupid’ is a swear word, but I’m going to call it what it is:
This is STUPID!
You cannot stop interest by paying $1 a day on your home loan.
Still, that won’t stop people from trying. There are thousands of comments under the video saying things like: “Not sure if it works, but I’m giving it a go!”
Which reminds me of another viral ‘secret’ for glowing skin:
Some internet gurus suggest you stick coffee beans up your quoit.
(Seriously, google it … just maybe not at work.)
Does it work?
Erm, no!
Meanwhile, you’re walking around with a short black up your clacker.
Now the fact that this video got 5 million views tells me three things:
One, people are desperate for solutions to higher interest rates.
Two, just because a video goes viral doesn’t mean it’s true – it just means it’s riding the TikTok (AKA the Chinese babysitter) algorithm.
Finally, I have a hell of a lot more work to do when it comes to financial literacy in this country.
Look, the only way you can pay your home loan down quicker is to get a lower rate, and make extra repayments … preferably more than $1 a day.
And if you’re struggling to make extra repayments, give up the coffee – it’s no good for your skin anyway.
Tread Your Own Path!

It really doesn't make sense to me.

Comments

  • +41

    Also if you pay $1 more than your speeding fine and never cash the refund cheque, the demerit points never get posted.
    (/s obv)

    This sort of sh*t used to get passed around by word of mouth, then email forward chains, then messages. Now it is posted on TikTok. Doesn't make it any more reliable.

  • +21

    There is a reason it’s called “ShitTok”

    • +3

      Nah that’s because of what it turns your brain into.

  • +24

    It doesn't make sense because the TikToker is retarded. It got a lot of views because the viewers are financially illiterate and/or desparate.

    In the previous interest rate environment it made sense to pay off the mortgage as slowly as possible as you could invest any extra repayments into the stock market which would generate a higher return that the saved interest.

    • +11

      It doesn't make sense because the TikToker is retarded

      User name checks out

      • +1

        If we dive deeper into the choice of wording, it looks pretty accurate. Retarded means slow, retard means to slow down. The tiktoker being slow to understand the concept of tax return. If we get upset at real meanings of words we are going to run out of English soon.

        • That is exactly how the derogatory term came about. It's actually changing the 'real' meaning of the word.

    • +5

      TikToker … retarded

      Repetitive. Different words, same meaning.

      • *redundant?

        • Now you're just picking on unemployable "redundant" people.

  • +2

    This was debunked. Classic tiktoker BS.

    He got you hook line and sinker.

    • +1

      I think the problem with financial literacy is this kind of thing needs to be 'debunked' for people, and they can't simply spot BS on their own. It shows how many people are at risk of being a scam victim.

  • +1

    What i dont understand most of all is why he posted this video? What is his game?

    • +3

      not sure what his game is. He could be genuinely wanting to help but alas genuinely mistaken

    • +23

      Subscribe to his channel and find out! /s

    • +14

      Tiktok Creator fund.
      You have contributed to him making a few hundred dollars.

    • +1

      Advertising his own financial services perhaps?

      • +2

        He does call himself "'his-surname' asset management". But isnt this the opposite of advertising? Hes shown everyone how terrible he his at finance?

        • +2

          Not the first or last time financially illiterate people will pay for terrible financial advice…

          A fool and his money are soon parted

    • +9

      If you've spent any amount of time on social media, you'd be familiar with this bs.
      The truth is boring, misinformation gets views, and people crave attention.

    • If you want to to know why, sign up to my 14 day free trial course….

  • +9

    I did ask (very, very much in passing) in the other thread, but I didn't think that we needed an entire new thread dedicated to a debunked Tiktok shitposter who hasn't even figured out how to sit in a chair properly.

    The guy is an unhinged conspiracy theorist or something similar, no need to give him more airtime or CPU cycles.

  • +23

    Banks Hate Him! Stop Paying Interest With This One Weird Trick!

    • +12

      Scientists want to stop him, but it is totally LEGAL

      • +8

        Facts doctors don’t want you to know.

        • +3

          Number 7 will shock you!

  • +1

    Only one way to find out lol

  • +23

    read TikTok content

    Ok everyone go ahead and take 1d4 psychic damage.

    Smh

    • +2

      This is the best comment I’ve read all year, cheers!

    • +2

      F I rolled a 4 and feel dumber already. frfr no cap

  • +9

    Guy on Tiktok Reckons

    Tells you everything you need to know.

  • +13

    I pay $2 extra per day and the bank then has to pay me the premium rebate at 79%

    It's how i have accumulated a portfolio of 37 properties by the age of 26.

    Click on the link below to like and subscribe for more money earning hacks.

    • +1

      Pls help. I can't see the link.

  • +7

    This is my understanding of it.

    The guys point is interest on the loan is calculated daily not monthly.
    Which means on day 2 of the month you are paying interest on the loan amount plus interest on the amount of interest accrued on day 1 and so on.
    Its that daily compounding interest component that hes referring to.

    Eg, to keep things simple, if its an interest only loan of $500,000 with a variable rate of 5%, then on day 1, the interest accrued is about $68.50, so on day 2 the interest will be calculated on an amount of $500,068.50 etc

    If you pay $68.50 every day over a 30 day month, your interest payments will be $2055 (always based on the loan amount of $500,000) instead of $2083 if you only make a payment at the end of the month.

    I think his $1/day is an attempt to simplify the confusing explanation.

    I cant explain why he thinks this would mean you pay off a 25 year loan in 5 years, unless the guy is dumb as.

    • +6

      when he becomes the center of attention, 25 years feels like 5 to him. that is how it works

    • +1

      That was the only way i could make any sense of it also.
      My problem is, wouldnt it still be better to pay (in your example) $2055 in a lump sum on the first of the month? Or $479.50 every Sunday? Or just as much as you can as soon as you can?

    • +11

      Eg, to keep things simple, if its an interest only loan of $500,000 with a variable rate of 5%, then on day 1, the interest accrued is about $68.50, so on day 2 the interest will be calculated on an amount of $500,068.50 etc

      No, this is not correct!

      Interest of $68.50 is accrued per day, therefore at end of 30 day month, interest of $2055 will be added to the loan => loan balance is now $502,055. If you make no repayment, now interest starts to accrue on $502,055 for the next month. THIS is how compound interest works.
      But, if you make total payment of $2055 or more over the month (either single payment, or multiple payments over the month), then you have paid off all the interest + the relevant amount of principle => there is NO compound interest effect.

      Note: compound interest is interest on interest.

      • +2

        Correct

      • worked on numerous banks systems and tested - @leigh8904 is correct

      • so, in your example, you could pay $2055 on that specific date of the month
        PLUS $1 just to 'beat' the compound interest effect. Is that what an extra $1 could do ?

        I mean, when someone took out an Interest Only [IO] loan,
        they would only pay interest, without affecting the Principle,
        but if there's this compound interest calculation happening,
        then paying $1 technically be counted as a 'Principal payment',
        just to stop the compounding calculation.

        • +1

          so, in your example, you could pay $2055 on that specific date of the month PLUS $1 just to 'beat' the compound interest effect. Is that what an extra $1 could do ?

          No plus $1 required; simply pay off the full amount of interest every month "to 'beat' the compound interest effect". This is exactly what happens with an IO loan.

    • +7

      Interest is calculated daily on the BALANCE of the loan and charged monthly. So if the loan is $500k for the whole month, then you will get charged your interest rate on $500k for however many days were in the month. Not $500k on day 1 and $500,068.50 on day 2 etc.

      • +1

        This is the correct answer. If you have a mortgage, you can easily check this out yourself by pulling out an XL spreadsheet and test the theory.

    • +3

      so wouldn't this happen automatically if you're using your offset account as your main transaction and salary account?

    • +2

      he thinks that you don’t get charged interest on days which you have made a payment. having made a token payment of $1, you will foil the interest calculation for that day. Do this every day and you’ll pay no interest.

      You won’t pay compound interest (in a strict sense) if you make payments prior to, or on the day of, you being charged the interest.

      • Oh yeah, I get what hes on about now

  • Does this actually work?

    • +15

      No

    • +3

      Do it and keep us up to date

      • +1

        The person who finds -the- loophole, won't update anyone….because then, that loophole gets plugged,
        in which case, there could be un-plugged loopholes right now…ha

        • Especially when posted on ozbargain

    • +3

      it does work if you pray hard enough and pay your whole outstanding loan on day 1. (praying optional)

  • +6

    not sure about this one but i tried the free KFC bucket refills hack and it didn't work

  • +4

    People rely on what they read on that shit site? there is no future.

  • New home buyer here, is this true?

    • +12

      No but if you have a 500k mortgage and have 500k in offset this would work. Badah boom badah bing!

      • Omg…are you serious? We need to make a Tiktok video on this…people need to know!

    • +9

      Yes, just pay 1 dollar extra and your mortgage will go away

      • +5

        This was the answer I was looking for! I knew the banks would be scared of this info coming out lol

        • +3

          Just brought 10 of them homes, should be set for life, thanks guys.

  • +10

    Does he have one simple trick for belly fat. Asking for a friend.

    • Doctors will hate you for using this one simple trick. Don't eat anything until you feel hungry, then starve yourself for an extra day. Do this once a week and kaboom! Your belly fat will be gone in a few months.

  • +11

    Friends don't let friends do TikTok.

  • +9

    This guy is incredibly smart… with these types of troll like videos he will build a large following of financially illiterate and impressionable viewers, which will help his own bank balance as he rolls out more content like this

    • +1

      Yeah, he can even offer financial advisers for these gullible followers and earned even extra. Like how scammers sometimes intentionally make their email scams look super fake so that whoever reply will surely be tricked as they are most likely have below average IQ

  • +7

    Why you would want 5 million + people to know you’re an idiot I don’t know.

    • +2

      Cause you get paid and lol all the way to the bank. I hope the ato check his taxes!

    • +1

      Would be more than happy for 100 million tonthink i am an idiot in exchange for the money he will get for it.

  • +1

    Buuuuut heeeey I signed a contract with the lender.
    Easy, just change your name.
    I dub thee "Bozo".

  • +3

    The reason why these videos are popular is because the people who try it won't know how to tell if it's actually working or not, so they'll just assume it works (and then share the video with their equally uneducated friends).

    • +7

      so they'll just assume it works (and then share the video with their equally uneducated friends).

      Compounding morons?

  • +1

    It must be true, its on tiktok.

    Mind you i prefer this guys financial advice, solid as a rock.

    https://bit.ly/3MpcekO

    • +1

      You wouldn't get this from any other guy

  • +1

    By his own maths, it doesn't even compute, pay off a 300k loan in 5 years by paying $1501 a month…

  • +3

    and you will end up cutting your mortgage from 25 years down to about five

    I think the only person who's mortgage is being cut from 25 down to 5 is the guy making the video, if he's making money from the views.

    Plenty of people on social media prey on gullible and/or professional victims who like to be told that all the Big corps and Gov are out to get them.

    • -1

      Plenty of people on social media prey on gullible and/or professional victims who like to be told that all the Big corps and Gov are out to get them.

      Well, the system is designed for you to stay ignorant to an extent
      and not to learn how to revolt against those who are 'in control',
      and this includes those (mainstream or social media) that control your eyes and ears.

      • +1

        The fact is that, if you choose to stay ignorant and rely on others to tell you, you'll always be used or taken advantaged of. People always seem to think that only the mainstream, big guys and gov want to control you and use you, but it's not.

  • +3

    There is a scenario where this advice works.

    When the loan amount is $1

  • +1

    yeah whenever someone goes into the latin origin of words to find some secret meaning is bordering on conspiracy theory sovereign citizen delusions.

  • +2

    Billions of dollars of revenue made by banks each year and millions on tech, but this guy has worked out the loophole. Don't think so.

  • +1

    Guy on Tiktok Reckons

  • +1

    I imagine there was a bug in one banks software 20 years ago that stopped interest being charged that day off the balance increased.

    I'm pretty sure these days banks can calculate interest just as well as excel can.

  • +1

    It's just someone looking for fame and clout. There is no secret hack that 'they' and 'them' don't want you to know about.

    Same thing happens with people claiming to have built perpetual motion machines, or cars that run on water.

  • I stick to bum bum dances on TT and so should you

  • +2

    So conflicted.. I want to watch the video but at the same time I don't want to give him any clicks!

    • +1

      Don't bother. It's a dumbshit neckbeard who can't tell his ass from his elbow, and all the comments are from people who are just as thick. There's lots of equally dumb crap out there, this one just got a bit of momentum behind it for no good reason.

      That people still need, even in this thread, to ask for an explanation of his failure to understand basic arithmetic is just a sad indictment of our education system and social media.

      I'm slightly pissed that this thread was even made in the first place. People should strive to be a bit better than this. Filter the shit out, rather than spreading it around with a trowel.

  • People are gullible and want to find easy hacks. Anyone with half a brain will know straight away what he is saying is pure BS

  • +1

    Please kindly stop posting crap like this on OzBargain :)

    This isn't whirlpool

    • hurlpool 400k+ jobs everywhere

  • +2

    Moron on platform full of morons says moronic thing.

    Why are you bringing that nonsense here…. no one cares.

  • +1

    There are sexy single women close to you

  • Not on TikTok , and have zero interest in doing so. But clearly the maths doesn't check out. Doesn't he realise that your "normal" payment normally includes an Interest component and a small amount off your owing balance (principal). so no paying down your mortgage an additional $365 dollars does not mean you will "beat the bank" or "pay zero interest"
    or "reduce your mortgage from term from 25 to 5 years".

  • I mean, who is getting financial advice off TikTok though?

  • Honestly..

  • kindergarten education clearly

  • ."A dollar a day keeps the compounded interest away."

    I am pretty sure he meant for the investors of Lego built homes 🤣

    Lol the banks would be getting flooded calls or daily dollar transactions.

    Sigh the free speech will come with a clause in the near future.
    Australian Code of Practice on Disinformation and Misinformation spreading chaos should carry a fine or jail time.

    Unfortunately, there is no short cut in life kids. The mortgage won't be called "dead pledge" for no reason.

    Like usually any wise man/woman will say that there are usually two outcomes in life for an average person.

    You can spend you money lavishly when you are young and work hard all the way until old age and still worry about making more money.

    or you can start saving/your money now and let the money work for you and retire without needing to worry about money at old age.

    Which pill will you take, Mr Anderson? 🙄

  • Lmao. What a croc. Thats not how compound interest works at all.

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