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Best price I have seen so far. Regularly gets down to $750ish but not this cheap.
Samsung Smart Wi-Fi Biometric Mortise Door Lock SHP-DR708 $692.19 @ Bunnings
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onlinepred on 29/11/2020 - 19:57 bunnings.com.au (7308 clicks)
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Last edited 29/11/2020 - 22:12 by 1 other user
This is part of Black Friday / Cyber Monday deals for 2020
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"5 different authentication methods (Smartphone app, fingerprint, pin code, NFC and mechanical key.)"
You probably didn't even bother reading how this lock is powered.
Let me help you:
Voltage
Four AA Alkaline 1.5 V batteries (LR6) (DC 6 V)
Emergency Power Source
One 9 V battery (6LF22) (separately sold)No power outage will affect this door ;)
Emergency Power Source One 9 V battery
Pretty much a standard feature for all kinds of smart door locks these days. So, folks like thriftysach can STFU. 😜
Should have led with this is ozbargain too expensive think of how many 5 dollar pizzas that is etc
its battery powered - also comes with physical key
use a 9V battery connected to the lock, then it has power. Most of the smart door support this.
@thriftysach: It actually is more practical for the average household(a few locks-unlocks/day) rather than businesses/universities that need locking/unlocking dozens of times/day
As paddywide said there is a workaround.
I don’t think the lock is supplied by mains power anyways
and there is a power outage.
Who do you keep saying that?
The lock is not powered by mains electricity.@thriftysach: Mate these have been around for a long time. There's nothing wrong with the technology.
Why do you think that because they aren't common, they must be shit?@thriftysach: Where have you been? I've stayed at Airbnb around that use them, as far back as a decade.
@thriftysach: Uhh I've had a smart lock (a much cheaper version) for a few years now and it works great, very convenient as now I don't ever need my keys
Also we all know you thought it was powered by mains lol, just admit when you're wrong it's no big deal
Smart Locks are never practical simply because they are not common enough at the moment.
What is your point here? Why does it matter if other people are using a smart lock or not? Shouldn't the practicality of it be entirely based on your own usage not others?
Don't see why people are so butthurt about fair criticism of a product and it's practicality.
How is criticizing it for functionality in a blockout relevant when it is powered only by batteries?
Smart Locks are never practical simply because they are not common enough at the moment. They may be in a few years, but not at the moment, they are not common in households.
What is the link between being practical and common?
If you were the only person in the world with a door that you could open with your phone it would still be a practical and easy for you to get in to your house.
If 100 extra people got the same lock as you it wouldn't change the way you got in to your house.
@thriftysach: Dude, you need to get out more. Nearly every household in South Korea use one. It’s pretty massive there for the last 10 years. The tech is mature, we are the only country that’s behind in lock technologies.
This Samsung lock has all the bells and whistles and support everything a household need plus more.
@goraygo: My wife organised this for our door, yes she is Korean too, haha. We've had ours for over 5 years now, it is an entry level Samsung, but it has never ever let us down. Extremely convenient!!!
People who don’t own electronics lock often have negative thoughts/comments. Once you own one, you would never go back! These locks have low battery warning and often have many different ways to open if one failed. Last resort would be the mechanical key way. The locks are designed so it can always open from the inside, no power is required.
Exactly.
Besides, if someone wants to break into a house, they are going to break in whether there's an electronic lock or normal lock. If their mind is set on getting in, they will find a way to force themselves in.
So true, I've had a Samsung on the house I built for about six years. The only negative is when it dies you need to replace pretty much like for like or replace the whole door.
That said I've been in rentals for the last few years and I finally got a place with a Samsung lock again, it just makes life easy. I like the extra features you can program in of the top models.
People who watch lockpickinglawyer know how magnets work, and how solenoids work, and they're understandably skeptical about this sort of technology. What holds the lock closed? What mechanism opens it? What triggers that mechanism?
People who watch lockpickinglawyer know that locks are there to just keep honest people honest. I don't have any issues using this smart lock over any other "conventional" lock. I know that lockpickinglawyer can unlock them both within 2-3 seconds :)
@GregFiona: So you'd pay $700 for a lock even if you thought it provided the same security as a $55 double cylinder deadbolt?
I mean, if it is running a solenoid, then it's less secure than a cylinder lock. You have to pick a cylinder, which requires at least a small amount of skill, but any muppet can slide a magnet around until something clicks.
Not saying this lock is like that, but "meh, they can all be hacked anyway" seems a strange argument for a 12x price increase.
@GrueHunter: It looks like you have missed the point here. Let me guess, you own a car that operates the doors with a key only(no remote) and your windows and windshield wipers are not electric, correct?
Also, you do not use wifi at home because the ethernet only modem/routers are cheaper and more secure, right?
Just to make it clear, I would pay the 12x extra $$ to have the extra features that a simple key lock doesn’t offer. My home’s security is based on a more professional, sophisticated and expensive equipment.
What's the reason to get this over $300ish locks?
which one are you referring to?
None in particular, but https://www.bunnings.com.au/our-range/building-hardware/door…
shows many cheaper locks so I'm wondering if it's worth spending this much.
eg https://www.bunnings.com.au/yale-satin-chrome-smart-deadbolt…Yale lock interface is sux compare to Samsung. They all have their own set of features. This one is a high end lock with full of features.
From a quick look, apart from the obvious brand premium you pay for the Samsung lock, the Yale does not offer the 5 different authentication methods Samsung has
@fredblogs: Not really. There are many different scenarios.
For example,let's say I own the house and I prefer to unlock the door with the NFC tag on my car keys.
My wife, she uses the phone app to get in.
For our high school kids, we have set up different pin codes of fingerprints so when they come home we receive an alert from the lock on our phone letting us know who got home.
Once every 3 months we assign a guest code(single use/day entry) and give it to the cleaner who has to access the house while we are away.Also, the one you posted is a smart deadbolt, not exactly the same thing as the Samsung
@GregFiona: Can this be retrofitted to replace existing mortise lock?
Or will the door have to be patched up and recut to install this lock?
@GregFiona: Is the NFC tag something you bought separately, like this? https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/NFC-KEY-FOB-TAG-CARD-FOR-SAMSUNG…
@GregFiona: The Yale Assure is great. There are 4 different wireless modules for it (Z-wave, Zigbee, HomeKit and August), which makes it very versatile. The minimal design of the outside panel also looks the best I think.
Maybe the Aqara N200? Pretty much the same specs as far as I can tell. Only difference I can see is that NFC is locked to Xiaomi phones and devices. And Xiaomi not Samsung, so the CCP can open your door on a whim. :)
earlier this year Xiaomi cams woul show random homes around the world.
maybe when you go home you unlock a door in norway!
In regards the power comments, we've had one for 7-8 years now, and it'll sound a low battery warning waaaaaaaayyyyyyyyy in advance… I'm talking like 3+ months, so it's actually quite difficult NOT to be on top of it. Unless you're hard of hearing I guess.
Interesting, I haven't even heard it. I just replace annually around Christmas/New Year's when extra batteries are floating around for the toys.
Same here. Always replace batteries annually for last 8 years. No problems at all.
Which authentication methods do you use the most?
Thanks, I am thinking of getting one but not sure if it will our door. We live in an apartment, with metal door frame.
Note this is not a fire rated lock - you won't be allowed to install it on the main entrance door for your apartment unit (which is a fire rated door)
Thank you :)
Wonder how it will handle the weather.
That's where some of these types of locks don't do very well.and the aussie sun, kills everything
Just wonder the same, how is it for external door ?
Thanks OP! We are doing renovations at the moment and my wife has been talking about this lock for weeks. Time to pull the trigger.
This wouldn't work on a double door unless we install 2 of these right ?
I always wonder do these type of smart locks only designed to install on new doors?
It doesn't look like they can be swapped with existing tradition mortise lock, as the pocket and cut outs are different.
Probably true for all mortise locks, once installed they are part of the door forever.
Is there any way to unlock it by just tapping your phone on it, without opening some app, as you would to use Google Pay?
you could also use finger print, pass code, nfc tag or key
What happens when it runs out of battery?
you can use a single 9v battery to prob on the sensor outside and open it. or use the physical key
You can charge it with a 9v battery. It beeps for 3 months prior to running out of batteries.
Who can install this? How could I know if this is suitable?
You can organize with bunnings to install it.
Once they start selling smart security door lock too then i will be buyinggg
Can this be installed on an existing door? If so how? Is there a DIY guide/instruction I can follow? Thanks in advance.
Disappointed that I couldn't find a video of the lock picking lawyer destroying this lock. Which is probably a good thing if you have one of these. First try a strong magnet on it ……
The weakest part of this lock is that it still has a key. Keys are the weakest security of a home. Most people don't even know what brand front door lock they have, or how secure it is.
If someone is going to break into your house, they will. A key lock is not going to stop them hey.
Haha yes. Brick or stone throw through your window then just walk in.
If only it could be a video doorbell as well…
This. It's what I'm waiting for. It does have a door bell, but not the best implementation imo.
Has anyone installed a Samsung digital lock on a door with thickness of around 32mm? The specs say 35mm+.
Where do you see that? I see:
Door width: 40-60mm
Lock stile: 115mm
Backset: 70mm
Just wondering if you need strata approval to install this?
Can John Conner hack it with his Atari?
Can I install this one on my wooden entry house door?
Smart Wi-Fi Door Lock
Jesus Christ I cannot believe people are so (profanity) stupid.
wtf are you on about
Anybody know whether these can be made to work with sliding doors the require a latch mechanism?
Anyone knows what difference between SHP-DP609 and SHP-DR708AU/VK?
Thanks
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