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Metamucil is cheaper to get FTTB
This thread is about Fibre to the Building, not Fibre to the Bum
is this for new customers or existing iinet ones?
Just use a NEW "person" wife, husband, cousins name or such if you wanted to "switch".
But yes if you keep the same name then it's only for NEW customers
I was with iiNet and moved to new place and called them for moving, they gave me 3 months free too.
Out of interest can you please post me your DSL Sync stats from the modem?
Something like: https://i.imgur.com/ByKxAFG.jpg
@RogerSa: Your error packets are way too high
Your sync speed is too low, you should be able to get 99999/40000You have bridge taps.
I assume you have more than one phone socket in the apartment. This affects your ability to sync higher.
Learn more about bridge taps - https://youtu.be/YCJC-cy5qPI
@Turd: Thanks, I will check the video later (I have two phone sockets) the dude that set up my internet told me you are far away from base, that's the reason you get lower speed!
@RogerSa: What he said YES it COULD be BUT for FTTB it is very unlikely.
He just doesnt understand how such a small thing like having more than 1 phone socket can cause VDSL2 to drop to such a low sync. Most of these people that install the things dont understand xDSL theory.
Read my posts a bit down, it will explain how I got similar speeds to your upload before I had things changed/fixed.
@Turd: Thanks, I will! I checked and I have one phone socket in kitchen too! (Never noticed it!) Hope may landlord/real state are ok with any changes!
@RogerSa: Ah yep that will be the cause of it 100%, yes get/let the landlord know, also let them know that this will add value to the property, because it's not only TPG/iiNet FTTB Non NBN that is affected, even NBN FTTB will be affected with this as well, however NBNCo uses VDSl2 Vectoring to mitigate this issue but still the issue exists. It probably cost you $150-$200 to fix it. And also make sure they dont just cut the socket off from the cable, they must find where the two sockets connect together and remove the spare/extra cable from the main cable.
If you do get someone in to check/fix this, report back and I'd be interested to know what happened (what they did) and what your modem sync speeds etc are after it's fixed.
also with iiNet
https://imgur.com/HbKYNwI
It's amazing if you can get it, though I understand it can vary from complex to complex@Turd: I don't really understand how my unit is wired up … i have various cat5 type connections throughout the unit (e.g both rooms / kitchen / entry) … the dude that set it up said it might be quicker if use the connection point closest to the entry, I've never tried it.
@Kaines: Yep 100% you have more than one phone socket in the home.
You will be able to get 40000 Upload sync IF you have bridge taps removed.
Learn more about bridge taps - https://youtu.be/YCJC-cy5qPI
I had similar sync speeds like you, where the upload syn speed was sub 28 / 30 Mbps. I had 4 phone sockets in the home, Kitchen, Bedroom, TWO in the study. It was all working fine etc etc..
Then one day it was just super slow and unuseable. So I had a person come in and look at it all, they disconnected the physical cat5e cables connected to a main distribution point above the kitchen.
So now I just have Cable Line in -> 1 wall socket in study.
@Kaines: If you do get someone in to check/fix this, report back and I'd be interested to know what happened (what they did) and what your modem sync speeds etc are after it's fixed.
Maximising your FTTB is the way to go :)
Good deal.
Now I just need a basement.Do you have a curb?
Which is better buying a new modem or can you rent one from the Telco
The modem is fine as a modem, its wi-fi is terrible. Just buy a decent router.
Becareful of the modem being used to obtain the VoIP details as a few people have had random calls unauthorised access to their VoIP, best to barr the call features in your portal if you dont use VoIP..
Thanks for this
Happy iiNET customer here. Used this code about 10 months ago, it is a long run. A friend also called them months ago, mentioned the code and got the first 3 months free.
It's unfortunate that I can't take FTTB to my new home and will have to pay more for crap NBN.
Out of interest can you please post me your DSL Sync stats from the modem?
Something like: https://i.imgur.com/ByKxAFG.jpg
Cheers!
Do you have more than one phone socket in the apartment?
@this is us: If you do it could mean signal loss as the VDSL signal has to travel to the un-used socket.
Most apartments would have at least 2 phone sockets I think, one in study one in kitchen or bedroom.
Basically bridge taps = bad thing fo VDSL2
@this is us: But if your new place is HFC, FTTP, FW then it doesnt matter, only copper technology requires this removal of phone sockets.
Learn more about bridge taps - https://youtu.be/YCJC-cy5qPI
I was on Optus's NBN 100/40 and had been getting 109 down and 39 up constantly at speedtest.
When I switched to iinet FTTB I am now getting 92/36, and sometimes 70/20 ish.Am I the only one who experienced NBN>FTTB?
Do you have more than one phone socket in the apartment?
What are your DSL Sync stats from the modem?
Is that wifi speed 70/20 ? or Ethernet testing.
NBNCo uses vectoring thus/why you are able to get 109/39, prob better pings too.
Also when did you last reboot the modem?
Those error packets are quite high for if it's been 11 days since you rebooted. 10k upload errors for 11 days, prob why your upload is 20Mbps as you say.I bet you that if you got a comms cabler in to remove the bridge tap it would improve your speeds and the performance of the VDSL2 line.
Basically VDSL technology (FTTN FTTB FTTC) you must have only one phone socket and nothing else connected to that phone socket for it to work perfectly.NBNCo using vectoring is a way to force a higher speed and reduce error packets so thus it may seem "better" but it's the way the technology is deployed.
Learn more about bridge taps - https://youtu.be/YCJC-cy5qPI
@Turd: I’ve been testing both wifi and Ethernet. I was able to get 92/38 on 5G wifi so shouldn’t be an issue (have my iinet modem setup as bridge along with my Netgear R7000).
Good to know about the errors and I shall reboot and test it tomorrow during the day/peak. Speeds are fine now.
@wjb: Ive never had any speed issues at all with my TPG/iiNet FTTB service during peak.
I have a script to do a speedtest every 3 hrs:
https://i.imgur.com/lDH4wgN.png
https://i.imgur.com/gAXhyYO.pngI too had like 10k errors etc before then had 4 sockets removed to being 1 only.
And now this is what I get: 54 days uptime for modem and connection time: 3k errors only:
https://i.imgur.com/jGxMK7X.png@Turd: I think my issue was my netgear R7000. Rebooted and have been testing every few hours, generally getting ~92/35. All good.
Still getting high errors for upstream, 11 hours 1.1k errors. Downstream is only 28.
@wjb: errors are based on when the modem was last reboot.
ie. if u reset the dsl sync the errors stay.but yeah those errors ur getting is due to the 2nd socket. if in 11hrs you have 1.1k errors, that's a lot. as the signal is being sent and bounced back through that 2nd socket.
@Turd: Does this affect my speed or ping ? Any fix?
This 2nd socket is in my main bed.
The main socket in the kitchen was never active since a few years ago when I had ADSL2+.Technicians plugged in their devices into the main socket and got nothing. That’s how i ended up using the 2nd socket
@wjb: Yah your sync upload is 28 you say?
Errors mean slower or lower speed. Because the modem has to recheck and re ask for the data again.
So the more you get the more slowness you'll get over time.
Unsure exactly how what your cabling setup is like in terms of the wiring behind the walls etc… only a comms person physically checking and using tools to diagnose can tell you what can be done.
I never trust those techies that do installs. Most time they don't know shit and just say something that sounds reasonable to get you off their backs.
Should I go with this or nbn co fttb? My building has both this (tpg fibre to the basement,) and nbn. Judging by comments thus far, I should get 90/40 from this on the tpg network and its superior to nbnco?
Yes, if you have only one phone socket ie. not mutiple bridge phone sockets in the apartment you should be hitting 93/38 without any issues @$59.99 a month.
But with NBNCo they have over provisioning and uses vectoring VDSL2 (to obtain higher speeds) so you'll get say for ABB 106/38 @$109 a month.Up to you…
My 24hr pings (every 5mins) to Sydney, Singapore, Tokyo, Los Angeles, London: https://i.imgur.com/ZqMlle2.png
I had Telstra cable before moving to this building. Beautiful, high speeds, no problems for about 2 years… Then I moved to this building and Telstra said I had to switch to NBN. They guaranteed I was going to get the same speeds I had with cable. Obviously, a lie… Speeds on Telstra NBN were around 20-30Mbps, rarely more than that. When I called them, she said "yes, the truth is that, if you had cable, NBN won't be that good". They had to cancel my NBN after one week and waived the early termination fee. I switched to FFTB and has been amazing. I think choosing NBN if you have the option to choose FTTB is a big mistake.
Telstra lie nothing new.
Your Telstra FTTB NBN was gettin 20-30Mbps? NBN50? Maybe it's to do with your internal apartment cabling (bridge taps). Because If a good FTTB copper connection to the MDF you should have no problems getting 50Mbps with any RSP. (esp with FTTB)
I had 100Mbps cable, they guaranteed they would keep the same speed (the non-advertised Telstra NBN 100/40). I don't know what was the problem, it's a 5 year old building. They did some tests and said there was nothing abnormal. I was using their modem and my router as usual. Tested speeds wired and wireless, it was always bad. Then they had to cancel. Still have the beautiful Telstra modem/router which they sent without extra charge and was used for 3 days.
Anyway, IINET FTTB is cheaper and much better.
New building is brand new, so it should have good cables for the NBN.
I had 100Mbps cable, they guaranteed they would keep the same speed
They cant guarantee that, they are stupid!
Going from Cable to another technology type will always have different results, not surprised they mis-lead you.
If anyone feels like crying about being cheated by NBN Co, you have every right to be.
New Zealand…..MyRepublic hyper fibre
New Zealand….950/500 unlimited data $85 p/month
Speak to your government.
Oh that hurts! Used to work for Telstra back in the day. Lines are filtered to a specific speed. Cable could have got between 1-2gb a second easy. My first day on their network I was getting 1gb a second. Got restricted after that. Couple customers I spoke to were getting similar, sometimes more than that for download speed. As soon as they updated or changed plans it would go back to what it should be. If we had unrestricted lines imagine what speeds could be achieved now.
Been using TPG FTTB before NBN was even worth talking about.
It is everything that NBN should have been in the first place.
It is fast, cheap and reliable.Out of interest can you please post me your DSL Sync stats from the modem?
Something like: https://i.imgur.com/ByKxAFG.jpg
Mine's this.
I'm unsure why my upload speeds are significantly less but think is due to SNR Margin/Line Attenuation..Bridge taps!
Do you have more than one phone socket in the home?
@Turd: We got them removed but our socket doesn't look like a normal phone socket. It's kinda fake vdsl module that has one phone line connection.. I believe they were daisy chained so technician just removed all that was connected except the main line. At least it hasn't had any disconnection since..
@dingdong3000: Who removed them?
And by removed what do you mean removed?You have a small NTU connected to the phone socket acting as a small mini DSLAM?
Like this? https://community.tpg.com.au/t5/Broadband-Internet/TPG-Fibre…
There is something preventing you from syncing and obtaining a higher upload speed. I am would get a reputable comms person to come and look into it if you are bothered. I would be. I too had 28Mbps upload about 3 months ago, then had it fixed all internally in apartment and now get 38 24/7.
@Turd: iinet(tpg) technicians disconnected the additional lines connected the vdsl splitter phone wall socket with only the main line connected.. I believe it acts as normal phone socket but it's not a normal phone wall socket you see. Here's what it looks like. No idea how this thing ended up as our main line lol
We don't have NTU connected to phone socket.
@dingdong3000: Very strange did they say why they installed a splitter like this? (I dont think you need this) VDSL2 works with just 1 copper pair.
I bet this is the sole reason for why you have a lower Upload sync speed.
How long ago was this installed?
EDIT: after a bit of researching this THING you have is a ADSL phone splitter and is used to split the phone signals from the MDF, it must be removed/replaced for just a normal RJ11/RJ12 socket, VDSL2 does NOT require this. It must have been installed during your ADSL2+ days.
So Im pretty confident 100% that this unit is causing your line upload sync speed being low.
@Turd: That fake 'filter' phone socket was there even before NBN. Must be something to do with ADSL connection previously. We only noticed disconnections ever since WFH and bit of research told me that VDSL2 connection do not play well with bridge taps.
No idea when that 'vdsl' phone line socket was installed. I reckon it became problematic ever since the switch to NBN but never noticed until recently. Can't say if converted to a traditional phone socket will improve since it's now connected with only the one line. As long as it doesn't disconnect 100/29 should suffice for now.
@dingdong3000: Yes that thing is a central splitter, it must be removed! (It's not fake, it was required for ADSL2+ to be able to use ADSL2+ with the normal POTS phone line. But now everyone is on VoIP and POTS doesnt/isnt used.
The reason why you are noticing the speed or issues is because as more people connect to VDSL2 service in the apartment the frequencies and such get stretched VDSL is highly temperamental to environmental affects.
So that splitter is 100% splitting the VDSL2 signal and thus your upload speeds are less.
A good comms person will be able to remove this.
@Turd: This VDSL-FTTB service uses the same phone socket as ADSL.
I switched from TPG-ADSL to TPG-VDSL using the same ADSL phone socket.
No technician needed to enter my unit TPG delivered a wifi-modem and all the connection was done in the basement. I just plugged it in and entered the login details and was connected in under a minute.@redslert: Yeah I know, what's your DSL Sync details obtained from the modem?
Techie probably did the switch from the Telstra MDF (for ADSL) to the TPG FTTB MDF A port, of your copper pair. And didnt bother going to your unit, they should though to verify and check that it all works, mine did that.@dingdong3000 has a Central ADSL splitter/pass through box causing his sync speeds to be poor.
Anyone heard of Pineapple Net here?
Very limited locations. They use DGtek as infrastructure provider.
Seems ok but then again redtrain also seems good. Lol
Thought you may be a Queenslander but your profile shows you are in Vic.
Does anyone know how long this deal is valid for? I am due to connect to fttb before December. The infrastructure is already installed in my apartment building.
A long time
Nice, thanks!
iinet is dodgy
why so?
The reviews overall look ok
He prob just had a bad experience with them on NBN thus thinks they are bad.
But this product is NOT NBN
Unless they are taking about the compromised VoIP info of the modems and people gaining access and using other people VoIP to make unauthorised calls overseas. Then yes that's bad coz of the TPG supplied default modem security hole.
NBN? Or Non NBN?
Worth changing if you are an existing TPG FTTB Customer?
I just want 3 months free :PYes and no. They may not let you change. - So give it a try.
or say that you have TPG FTTB already and just offer you 3 months free. You can only try.The only one sure way of getting it to work is to signup using a wife or husband or another person's name then it will be like a "NEW" service.
Currently with TPG on a similar deal for $69. Has anyone had any luck getting TPG to match this deal for not losing its current customers to iiNet?
TPG wont match it for existing users. Because both products are the SAME THING!
If you are not in a contract with TPG, maybe you can switch to iinet and get this deal.
When will this deal expired? My building is getting NBN in December
This is not nbn
It's FTTB but non-nbn
I thought FTTB is another technology type of NBN.
FTTB is just like FTTN where the Node is at the basement of the property.
And uses the existing copper cables in the building to connect via VDSL2 technology.
Unlikely for TPG/iiNet/Wondercom to install their own FTTB infrastructure in the building as well.
Are you on ADSL2+ now? Check your address - https://www.iinet.net.au/internet-product/broadband/fttb/pla…
What does it say you can get?
My building don't even have ADSL. I'm using 200GB 4G home wireless from Optus and it's not enough.
Address check gives me "Your home's estimated NBN™ connection date is 30-Nov-2020*" and let me pre order NBN.
That sucks man. Is it a new building? The developer must be super bad and didnt apply for NBN right away.
Are you getting NBN FTTP? or NBN FTTB?
@Turd: Yeah brand new building. My unit wasn't even on anybody's address list when I did NBN check until few weeks ago. NBN website says I'm getting FTTB.
@Nick K: Ahhh ok, then dodgy or cheap developer not installing FTTP in the apartment but rather going for a inferior FTTB.
Oh well not much you can do.
So if you can get NBN to my house this isn't available?
It depends, this product is for people living in apartments/units where the TPG/iiNet/Wondercome FTTB Non NBN infracture is avaliable.
No one can tell you, but if you enter your address into their website it will let you know if you can get it or not.https://www.iinet.net.au/internet-product/broadband/fttb/pla…
Depends.
You can check your address for this.
My building has both NBN and non-NBN fttb
We are the lucky ones with both infractures.
Yes! And the agent who I leased the apartment from was pushing me for NBN that too from Dodo!
It's good that I found FTTB is available for my building.
@eatcroissants: Nice nice, yeah everyone thinks that NBN is the be all and end all.
I think TPG arent supposed to advertise this product, because NBNCo/Government doesnt like it.
Out of interest are you using VoIP service on it? If not better go into the portal and disable/bar all calls from it because of the security risk of unauthorised hacking of the SU user on the modem provided by TPG/iiNet.
@Turd: That's good to know. I won't be using VoIP.
Haven't received my modem yet - will get it in next 3 business days.
If this is a known security hole, shouldn't TPG/iinet do something about it?
@eatcroissants: People were posting all about it in the TPG own forums but the posts kept on being deleted. I suspect they are trying to hide/mittigate the problem.
Check out the threads/posts on whingpool -
No that is NBN, this is nothing related to NBN, allthough TPG are looking at their own FTTH - https://www.tpg.com.au/ftth