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Residential Gigabit nbn Plans on FTTP and HFC 1000/50Mbps $149/mth, 250/100Mbps $209/mth, 250/25Mbps $129/mth @ Aussie Broadband

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Residential Gigabit nbn Plans on FTTP and HFC 1000/50Mbps $149/mth, 250/100Mbps $209/mth, 250/25Mbps $129/mth @ Aussie Broadband
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1000/50 - $149 a month

250/25 - $129 a month

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Because this is a new plan, we don't yet know what the typical evening peak speed will be, so you'll notice that our Critical Information Summary and Key Fact Sheets for now just list the 250 plan peak evening speeds. We think the plan should achieve off-peak speeds of up to 80-90%, depending on the technology type.

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          • Austere on 26/05/2020 - 17:01

            @Magus: FTTC was basically only deployed in ideal scenarios. For anything where conditions weren't ideal we reverted back to FTTN

        • [Deactivated] on 26/05/2020 - 20:25
          +1

          Not if you are in any inner city apartment. My apartment has 52 floors. Imagine the length of copper from the basement to the upper floors!

          • cycleri3 on 29/05/2020 - 17:49

            @[Deactivated]: Depends where you live but in Melbourne most buildings that tall have private Fibre, usually TPG.

      • [Deactivated] on 26/05/2020 - 14:05
        +4

        FTTNP^ is technically the best from a price-to-performance perspective

        (^)Fiber to the neighbour's premises where neighbour has an open wireless access point.

        ;-)

        • homersyd on 26/05/2020 - 16:10

          didnt think there are much open wifi networks anymore…

      • Fletch on 27/05/2020 - 00:12
        +2

        I have FTTN. It like have sex without the orgasm!

      • exa on 27/05/2020 - 09:14

        For a better refference:

        https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9e/FT…

      • checkingthisout on 27/05/2020 - 09:23

        FTTC is a dud in Germany and the UK. What on earth are you on about. Potential for another upgrade to FTTP has a higher chance than ever getting 1000Mbps.

      • boomramada on 29/05/2020 - 18:11

        Still I'm on 25/5 for past 10 years on FTTP 😂

        • Twix on 29/05/2020 - 18:18

          Haha how much are you paying?

  • AkiraSaito on 26/05/2020 - 13:01
    +3

    Noob question: how can I check if my place is FTTP or HFC?

    • CC123 on 26/05/2020 - 13:02
      +9

      Check here on the NBN Co website

      • AkiraSaito on 26/05/2020 - 13:14

        thanks

      • tight-ass on 26/05/2020 - 13:42

        When looking up my address I noticed this on their website:

        "Disconnection information - The disconnection process for the old phone and internet network in this area is scheduled to begin on Nov 2020#"

        Are we likely to see any improvements to current speeds once this happens?

        • Tacooo on 26/05/2020 - 13:48
          -5

          Literally will have zero impact.

          • AusNugz on 26/05/2020 - 13:51
            +7

            @Tacooo: That's not true on FTTC, HFC & FTTN. Coexistence period can definitely have a small but measurable impact on speeds.

            • tight-ass on 26/05/2020 - 13:56
              +1

              @AusNugz: Bugger - my only hope is to upgrade our connection from FTTN to FTTP…..might be cheaper to move house.

              • AusNugz on 26/05/2020 - 14:09
                +1

                @tight-ass: Could always try a TCP quote maybe you'll get lucky and get something "reasonable"

                • tight-ass on 26/05/2020 - 16:13

                  @AusNugz: Nothing to lose I guess except the $330 application fee if I don't proceed with the quote

            • [Deactivated] on 26/05/2020 - 15:03

              @AusNugz: How does decomming copper affect HFC?

              • AusNugz on 26/05/2020 - 15:08
                +1

                @[Deactivated]: Telstra Cable operates concurrently on HFC. Once that's gone they get more channels.

          • Thunderstruck86 on 29/05/2020 - 14:26

            @Tacooo: If FTTN it will, once co-existence is finished.

        • coxymla on 26/05/2020 - 13:59
          +3

          You are very unlikely to have coexistence turned off in Nov 2020. People have been waiting for years.

      • BooYa on 26/05/2020 - 14:36
        +1

        Just be aware that the NBN Co's search tool is not always correct.

        My dad moved this weekend, and according to the NBN website there is no NBN access at his new address.

        I rang an ISP my dad was with at his previous address, and they said that NBN is available at his new address.

        I was told that in cases where the NBN Co website says that there is no NBN access at a particular address, but the ISP's internal data shows that NBN is available, connections must be handled by a supervisor (no idea why).

        My dad was told to expect a call from a supervisor (or possibly someone from their provisioning team) within 24 hours to "finalise" the order.

        I will update once he is connected either to NBN or ADSL.

        • ONEMariachi on 27/05/2020 - 08:10

          Rollout map is definitely quite average. You generally want to check nbn’s proper Portal to see what’s available at a site.
          Nbn also fail to create LOCID’s for addresses(because their lazy field technicians just miss entire properties). So checking some surrounding houses can give a good indication, and your ISP will lodge for a Locid to be created for your particular address. Which can in some cases(Fttn) result in immediate availability, not always but in most cases. Or result in at least a RFS(ready for service) date being given for the other technologies.

    • Bob81 on 26/05/2020 - 13:03
      +1

      Goto the nbn website, check your address and it'll tell you the type of service (FTTP/HFC/ect) is available.

    • AkiraSaito on 26/05/2020 - 13:16
      +1

      I am on FTTP. I am currently with Mate on 100/50. I am very happy with their service. Now the question is, do I want to pay twice the price to get 10X faster download speed?

      • Turd on 26/05/2020 - 13:36
        +10

        Depends how fast you need your Anime

    • Turd on 26/05/2020 - 13:35

      Also this has a better view of your place with what is required:

      https://www.aussiebroadband.com.au/nbn-poi/

      And to reference - https://www.aussiebroadband.com.au/help-centre/nbn/connectio…

    • PainToad on 26/05/2020 - 14:57
      +1

      It blows my mind there’s people out there who don’t understand what NBN they have. Even for understanding the resale value of your property. It’s going to get the point that having FTTN a long way from the node will make selling a home difficult as working from home becomes more common.

      • CookieJacker31 on 26/05/2020 - 15:12
        +2

        I doubt it. If you can afford a home you can find $5-10k to the TCP. You probably saved a few grand in not having fttp and gain a few grand adding it.

        Renting OTOH I can see more of an issue, the renters won't want to pay so may seek out fttp of it matters to them.

        • PainToad on 26/05/2020 - 18:45
          +1

          $5-10k

          It’s way more than that. Check Whirlpool for people’s quotes.

          They only time it might be “adorable” is when it’s FTTC to FTTP.

          • PainToad on 26/05/2020 - 20:33

            @PainToad: Stupid auto correct. That should of been affordable.

          • WillKillfor5Cents on 08/06/2020 - 10:48

            @PainToad: sorry I'm not so savvy with all these broadband forums, but if I have FTTN and I want to upgrade, how much damage am I looking at? Just very roughly

      • raybies on 26/05/2020 - 16:21

        I'm hoping for 5G, my max sync on FttN is 21Mb/s… 6km from CBD.

  • Diji1 on 26/05/2020 - 13:03
    +57

    NBN layed down FTTC in my area when it is already served by Telstra HFC.

    So as well as buying Telstra's junk copper wire network for 60 billion NBN is creating worse internet structure in HFC areas. HFC is currently capable of 6Gbit down/2Gbit up and expected to go higher.

    This is what Liberal voters voted for when they voted for an idiot who said they only needed 12Mbit in 2016.

    • ThithLord on 26/05/2020 - 13:42
      +2

      Nailed it, Diji1

    • kahn on 26/05/2020 - 14:38
      +15

      That's not a fair judgment. I voted for Liblab to increase surveillance, increase our military budget, ensure Assange rots in jail, and to meet our carbon emissions targets through accounting tricks. Vote 1 Liblab.

      • [Deactivated] on 26/05/2020 - 15:09
        +8

        And for Gerry’s Subsidy Tarrif (GST) on goods purchased From OS

      • Magus on 26/05/2020 - 16:07
        +1

        I just wanted to keep Dutton and his Security Squadron/Border Force/Mega department.

    • sir_bazz on 26/05/2020 - 15:08
      +1

      $60b ?

      Only if you're a corporate accountant. It was $11b, the value of the deal was negotiated by the ALP long before the libs were elected.

      But it's hard to understand why FTTC is preferenced over HFC. It makes no sense within the old Bigpond footprint.

      • CookieJacker31 on 26/05/2020 - 15:15
        +2

        Long term Fttc should be upgradable to fttp. A lot of the HFC areas were also in disrepair.

      • Magus on 26/05/2020 - 16:03
        +3

        FTTC is used because it is cheaper than HFC extensions. The HFC equipment is getting old and often needs replacement. To extend each segment, they need to add amplifiers(powered). These have a finite life.

        FTTC uses GPON back end, allowing an upgrade to FTTP at a later stage. (yes, double spending and poor topology)

      • ssquid on 26/05/2020 - 17:08
        +4

        Look, we've talked it over and $60b is the new goto amount for "we don't really know the exact amount but it's a lot." As in, how much did we miscalculate jobkeeper's cost? About $60b.

    • Melthar on 26/05/2020 - 15:28
      +1

      At our place they laid fresh HFC, we had never had HFC before that point, being stuck on rubbish DSL.

      Why they bothered to go through the trouble of rolling out fresh cable, and not make it fibre? This is the mess Abbott and Turnbull bestowed upon us.

      • bobzor on 26/05/2020 - 20:11
        +2

        You guys got lucky. I had Cable (90-100mbps), and my AREA got FTTN (24-26mbps). Cable just got terminated last week and I've got a spreadsheet of 20+ fttn drop outs since.

    • raybies on 26/05/2020 - 16:22
      +2

      We need to sue the government.

    • checkingthisout on 27/05/2020 - 09:25

      HFC cannot do 6Gbps in real world tests. It can barely do 1Gbps. And the way NBN has done it where it’s shared so highly in high density. I’ll be surprised if this hits 500Mbps with a clean signal.

  • Pecan on 26/05/2020 - 13:03
    +11

    Excellent news!
    Any deals on houses with FTTP?

    • PainToad on 26/05/2020 - 13:33
      +1

      The only way to get FTTP in Brisbane is a new townhouse or a new estate out in the sticks (even then it might be Opticomm FTTP, not NBN).

  • HardQuiz on 26/05/2020 - 13:05
    +3

    Hope that means the 100/40 plans will get some discount.

    • DogGunn on 26/05/2020 - 13:05
      +6

      Nope.

    • ttlooshan on 26/05/2020 - 13:10
      +25

      Not at all. NBNco is actually actively trying to kill the plans with higher uploads or restrict them to business only. On FTTP for example there is no technical reason for them to offer such low upload speeds with these news plans but they have gone this route for no other reason than politics and to make HFC look like a comparable technology to FTTP. In reality limitations with spectrum is what cripples uploads and overall performance over HFC hence the need for them to restrict higher upload frequencies and bandwidth.

      • Click_It on 26/05/2020 - 13:59

        I've noticed 100/40 quietly disappearing. Why exactly are they trying to kill the higher upstream plans? A cheap way to make business plans more attractive? I assume it can't be to save bandwidth on the network because downstream is what does the damage there anyway, so it must be my first guess?

        EDIT: Oh I posted this before reading your comment in full. You say its HFC based. Interesting, and sad.

        • ttlooshan on 26/05/2020 - 14:14
          +6

          Nah mate. The real issue here is HFC. Because they still dont have access to the full spectrum, they have been running into issues with uploads literally crippling performance on some segments of the entire HFC network. Over in WP you see where users complain about poor performance with their HFC connection even reps from some of the RSPs chiming in as well to point out these issues being directly related to upload frequencies and congestion because uploads per segment over HFC are heavily skewed in favour of download vs upload speed. If your upload is congested, the network won't work as designed because there is more contention and delays with processing network traffic. So in peak times for example, someone with a 100/40 connection woudl find their uploads not going past 10 or 20 mbps. They simply cannot offer the higher upload speeds on HFC until they have the network for their exclusive use (no Foxtel and Telsta Cable Etc.) And even when they have full access to all frequencies I doubt this will change either due to the nature of how DOCSIS works. It's for this very reason that they offer such low TC1 traffic(which is guaranteed Bandwidth) over their HFC network. So this is those on FTTP being held back BECAUSE of the deficiencies of the HFC networks.

          • netjock on 26/05/2020 - 15:11
            +2

            @ttlooshan: In the UK Virgin Media does 100mbits over HFC no problems. Must be something uniquely Australian.

            • ttlooshan on 26/05/2020 - 16:27

              @netjock: HFC Networks built for broadband perform as designed but there are still upload limitations based on the tech. The networks Telsta and Optus built were primarily for voice and PayTv.

              • netjock on 27/05/2020 - 09:38

                @ttlooshan:

                HFC Networks built for broadband perform as designed

                You forgot the word "badly" somewhere in there. I guess the designers had the same bad attention to detail.

                • ttlooshan on 27/05/2020 - 11:01
                  +2

                  @netjock:

                  You forgot the word "badly" somewhere in there. I guess the designers had the same bad attention to detail.

                  Nope. There is a difference with HFC networks built for broadband and those built for voice and paytv. There are HFC providers in Australia where providers were able to sell services over 100mbps with no issue as they built their networks for this purpose. The Iinet HFC netowrk in Geelong VIC is one example.

          • Click_It on 26/05/2020 - 23:34
            +2

            @ttlooshan: Wow thanks for the detailed reply! One of the most useful posts I've read in a long time. Now we're all being punished for the HFC mess :(

          • Springfield on 29/05/2020 - 19:39

            @ttlooshan: Easy fix only offer fast internet plans to FTTP.
            This has already been done to FTTN users why not apply the same to HFC?

      • [Deactivated] on 26/05/2020 - 14:29

        I would be more happy for 500/100 for same price or even 200/100.

        Upload does come in handy uploading backup/videos to cloud/off-site. They probs just know people who need upload speed will ask for it and expect us to pay more for it.

        • ttlooshan on 26/05/2020 - 14:34
          +5

          Only way to get plans like that is to have FTTP and be prepared to bay big $ with a premium RSP. Because of the MTM choices the network has effectively been turned into lotteries where there are winners and losers. So there is FTTP Lotto(the rarest of them all), Node Lotto (the closer you are to the node yipee), FTTC Lotto (better winnner than node lotto) and now HFC Gig Lotto. These are issues that a ubiquitous FTTP network was supposed to solve.

          • Click_It on 26/05/2020 - 23:38
            +1

            @ttlooshan: My next question, given the points you raised earlier about HFC. Why are they even making these higher speeds available to HFC. They should be stuck in the slow lane with us FTTN peasants shouldn't they? Ie, what if HFC take up of 250/100 is greater than expected? This is a train wreck in slow motion.

            • XeKToReX on 27/05/2020 - 08:37
              +3

              @Click_It: Because it's technically possible to do it, not that it really should be done.

              They're trying to hide the digital divide as much as possible.

            • ttlooshan on 27/05/2020 - 10:55
              +1

              @Click_It: as @XeKToReX said below, it's all about making the technologies and by extension the choices they made to use these technologies seem equal when there is nothing further from the truth.

              What we may see happening is increased traffic over the HFC netowrk and a sudden halt in selling those plans as they do more remediation so that the network can cope. This has happened before as more premises were connected to the HFC network.

              Remediation involves running more Fibre and splitting HFC nodes so that there are less users per segment.

    • Morien on 26/05/2020 - 13:10
      +16

      This work from home business hasn’t shown you that your comment is more than deserving of a /s ?

      • justtoreply on 26/05/2020 - 13:23

        Are you actually working from home, or streaming netflix? :p

        We had two working from home, vpn, 25/5 no issues.

        Your comment might apply at 3.30pm when you've picked up kids from school and they start streaming.

        • Bigboomboom on 26/05/2020 - 13:32
          +4

          Depends on what type of WFH, if you need to access large amount of information from your workplace server then it may well be. Or upload large files frequently.

          • eug on 26/05/2020 - 13:40
            +13

            @Bigboomboom: Evidently the only type of WFH that everybody does is an RDP session, or whatever else Phoebus does. Nobody is allowed to use the internet differently to what Phoebus does. Period.

    • tonydav on 26/05/2020 - 13:12
      +6

      You need to use a sarcasm tag else people will think you're serious.

    • Creamy on 26/05/2020 - 13:18
      +13

      Hi Tony I didn't know you were on ozbargain

    • ozbargainer88 on 26/05/2020 - 13:25
      +10

      Is that you Malcolm, or is Tony?

      • AusNugz on 26/05/2020 - 13:42
        +4

        7.1.3 Speed / Bandwidth Growth
        In the last Labor NBNCo corporate plan seems to contradict that statement Matthew.

    • ThithLord on 26/05/2020 - 13:43
      +8

      Otherwise, nobody will ever need > 25/2 mbps internet.

      That's Liberal voters for ya, lads and ladettes.

    • cycleri3 on 26/05/2020 - 14:31
      +1

      I had to upload a 10GB file for work yesterday and my 20Mbps upload was killing me. On 2Mbps upload i'd give up and go to work even during lockdown.

      • N1NJ4W4RR10R on 06/07/2020 - 14:41

        Probably be faster to ferry some USBs back and forth

    • [Deactivated] on 26/05/2020 - 15:12
      +1

      And no one will ever need more then 640kb of ram

    • interfreak on 26/05/2020 - 16:41

      Is that you Tony?

    • Spun on 09/06/2020 - 06:50

      Ok Phoebus. I never drive outside of my suburb, so that means no car needs to go above 50km/h or carry more than one passenger.

      You’re ok with that, right? I mean… it suits my usage patterns so surely that means everyone must be the same.

  • ChillBro on 26/05/2020 - 13:07
    +1

    Issue for those on hfc is that only 7% can get it on launch. Rep has also said not to expect to get gigabit speeds during evening peak. Still good though.

    • iamhurtin on 26/05/2020 - 13:11
      +1

      This seems cheaper than buying backup for my nas

      If I lose most/all, sign up for this and get it all back.

      Handy

  • superuser on 26/05/2020 - 13:07
    +12

    Australia is the most expensive country in the world.

    • eug on 26/05/2020 - 13:27
      +28

      Did you try to buy it? What was the asking price?

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