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[NSW] Free Food for Impacted Intl' Students / Self Isolating People at Harris Park, 5PM to 7PM Everyday @ Little India Australia

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[NSW] Free Food for Impacted Intl' Students / Self Isolating People at Harris Park, 5PM to 7PM Everyday @ Little India Australia
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Ace26 on 28/03/2020 - 22:06 littleindiaaustralia.org.au (814 clicks)
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Nice gesture by a bunch restaurant owners for lending a hand.

Little India Australia, Harris Park team is pleased to announce the following restaurants who are participating to provide free food for International students and those who are affected by COVID-19 who need a meal in this unprecedented time.

More info at https://littleindiaaustralia.org.au/

FREE FOOD 🥘 For International Students
Contactless Takeaway Everyday
🕔 5:00 PM - 🕖 7:00 PM

Great Work 👍
Little India Australia Harris Park

Pick up from The Following Locations

📍 Monday @ Haveli harrispark
📍 Tuesday @ Taj Indian Sweets & Restaurant
📍 Wednesday @ Chatkazz
📍 Thursday @ Punjabi Fusion Restaurant
📍 Friday @ Not Just Curries
📍Saturday @ Hydrabad House
📍Sunday @ Billu's Indian

Dining & Takeaway Instagrampost

Related Stores

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    • ChickenDinner123 on 28/03/2020 - 22:11
      +31

      Because centrelink is there for them.

      It isn't there for
      International students.

      • UrbionPT on 28/03/2020 - 22:13
        +10

        Plus they pay school fees upfront and probably 3 or 4 times more expensive 😉

        • Nathw on 28/03/2020 - 22:53
          +1

          A friend is paying $50000 upfront every year lol

        • Freestyle on 28/03/2020 - 22:58
          +17

          Their dads are

          • johnwinkle on 29/03/2020 - 00:37
            +5

            @Freestyle: yeah who would've thought 18 yos arent paying 50k a year upfront out of their own pockets

            • jedimaster on 29/03/2020 - 02:36
              +1

              @johnwinkle: My wife's cousin is 20 yrs old and studying nursing. She is an international student and pays 28k a year out of her own pocket by working multiple jobs

              • educalifa on 29/03/2020 - 02:48
                +12

                @jedimaster: Good on her… but she's not allowed to work more 20h/week as an international student lol

                • jedimaster on 29/03/2020 - 03:08

                  @educalifa: True but i wonder if anyone actually follows it with such a high cost of living in Sydney/Melbourne along with paying UNI fees. Now times are even more desperate for most students due to restaurants and stores closing. Bad times :(

                  • Love a bargain on 29/03/2020 - 03:34
                    +3

                    @jedimaster: They're not supposed to be relying on their part-time work to support themselves anyway. The rule is there to prevent this exact situation. If they break the rule in the first place, they've only got themselves to blame for the hardship they're in.

                  • ln28909 on 29/03/2020 - 03:43

                    @jedimaster: if it's such a high cost, then why not consider moving to a regional area where the cost of living is lower, that doesn't seem to be a valid justification for 'bending' the law.

                    Based on that figures, she's working at least 18 hours a week which is almost double the limit, do you think that's right?

                    • jedimaster on 29/03/2020 - 19:55

                      @ln28909: Same reason why most people live in Sydney/Melbourne. More jobs and better pay.

                      • ln28909 on 29/03/2020 - 20:05

                        @jedimaster: Better pay is arguable since not a lot of people want to work in rural and regional area so they add incentives through increasing salary, and more jobs is not a valid excuse for bending the law

                  • Bryanalves on 29/03/2020 - 08:40
                    +2

                    @jedimaster: You are not suppose to be able to fully support your school fees with working in aus. Education for internationals is an export. So there is an expection australia gets some money from you/your family from overseas income/cash.

                    • jedimaster on 29/03/2020 - 20:17
                      +2

                      @Bryanalves: Just a background:

                      She was born in Nepal in a poor family.
                      Most families in Nepal send their kids overseas for UNI to give them a better future due to lack of jobs and good education in Nepal. With great difficulty, they are only able to pay the first semester fees (15k AUD) that too with long term savings/loan. Rest is upon the student to manage until the course finishes. Its same situation for atleast 80% students who come from overseas hoping to make a better future in a first world country.

                      The per capita income of Nepal is $1034 USD per year. Less that half of average monthly salary in Australia.

                      Like all foreigners who come from a third World country(including me) to a first world country, we come with hopes of uplifting us so that we can avoid the hardships we used to live in, provide better for our parents and future kids.

                      I understand rules are their because Australian govt is also trying to protect itself but the Immigration department has rarely deported anyone for exceeding hours (unless someone has specifically complained) as they are also well aware of the situations of most international students.

                      FYI: I didnt come to Australia as a student but my wife did

                      • Bryanalves on 30/03/2020 - 06:34
                        +3

                        @jedimaster: From Aus perspective, the study visa is an export for revenue just like any other international trade. If people are supporting the fees with aust income then it defeats the purpose of doing it.

                        Aust does not do the student visa programme to help 3rd worlders to have a better future and they dont have a responsibility to (They do do it with humanitarian visas/foreign aid).

                        Perhaps if people can't afford the school fees then the visa is not made for them.

        • Love a bargain on 29/03/2020 - 03:31
          +6

          The school fee they pay is for services (i.e. the education) they receive. It doesn't make them any more entitled to welfare support than a tourist spending lots of money on jewelry and luxury goods while they are visiting Australia.

          • Hardlyworkin on 29/03/2020 - 08:07
            +5

            @Love a bargain: If the international students don't return or can't continue in Australia that is going to leave a massive void in our economy. It will also mean that Aussies pay a lot more for their education here and more HECS = less spending.

            Nice to see these restaurants giving some help. Many of these students are some of the hardest working people in Australia…. And yes I realise that means they are working more than their 20 hours.

            The reason Australia is a popular choice over other similar countries is that students here are allowed to work. Border protection aren't very fussed about deporting students who work more than 20 hours a week, they are more concerned with those working who have no work rights.

            • Love a bargain on 29/03/2020 - 12:18
              +2

              @Hardlyworkin: A. You're assuming no other students will come to take the places of those who chose not to return when the dust settle

              B. There are business risks in every industry, and this is just one of them for this industry when it comes to rely on overseas students who can't actually afford to do so without taking working while they're here.

              C. The worse performing schools which can't survive the storm might fold, a higher % of places in the surviving university are now occupied by local students and they get a better education.

              D. When you say they're working bloody hard by working more hours than they are allowed to, they're breaking the law and taking jobs away from Australians. Don't glorify it.

              • Hardlyworkin on 29/03/2020 - 13:07

                @Love a bargain: A. Yes assuming not as many students will come as no longer in the financial position they were.
                B. Agreed, unis have relied too much on international students, particularly Chinese.
                C. The worsr performing schools are basically only there to serve international students looking for an avenue to stay in the country. I doubt them disappearing will have any positive impact on locals looking to get an education.
                D. Half the reason we have visa workers is to fill many of the crap jobs there aren't enough Aussies to fill. Maybe when this all subsides locals won't have any choice but to deliver food and clean hotels etc

            • Repi on 29/03/2020 - 15:24
              +1

              @Hardlyworkin: Indian and Chinese Government are both building top class Universities with the aim of pinching Professors from Canada, Australia and the US. Our economy relied so much on International students the Degrees have been de-valued due to sheer numbers and exemptions to get paying students.

    • Ace26 on 28/03/2020 - 22:11
      +2

      Not sure, I posted a deal I found on social media. Not associated with restaurants or the site owner.

      If you really want to know maybe email them at [email protected]

      I do know that Jaipur Sweets Restaurant in Harris Park offers free food every Tuesday evening, for anyone who wants it.

    • johnwinkle on 28/03/2020 - 22:46
      +3

      Majorities always asking for more benefits to the majorities, and check out youth allowance if you're 18 to 24 and studying full time

        • Kingfield on 29/03/2020 - 03:33

          well honestly if you're getting paid over $500 a week from the government, seems a bit bratty to be complaining about not getting a free meal

          • ln28909 on 29/03/2020 - 03:37
            -4

            @Kingfield: it's not the free meal itself, but rather the fact that this type of discrimination is promoted without question.

            • Kingfield on 29/03/2020 - 03:43
              +1

              @ln28909: what are you talking about dude? How is that discrimination? By that logic it's discrimination for unpaid people to be getting centrelink when employed people can't.

              • ln28909 on 29/03/2020 - 03:47

                @Kingfield: like why international and not domestic, where the basis of this free meal is whether the person is having difficulties from COVID-19.

                not a fair comparison to centrelink

                • Kingfield on 29/03/2020 - 03:49
                  +3

                  @ln28909: yes, and a domestic student who gets paid an extra $250 a week from centrelink is not going to be having difficulties from COVID-19 to the same extent as an international student. simple as that

                  • ln28909 on 29/03/2020 - 03:52
                    -4

                    @Kingfield: that doesn't seem to be a reasonable assumption, what justification do you have for saying that

                    domestic student + $250/week > international student

                    like we have info on the financial limit on who qualifies for the allowance for domestic student

                    however, there is no firm information regarding international student

                    also note, dinner meals are about $30-$70/week depends on if you cook or do take out and you're saying with absolute that

                    domestic student + $250/week > international student + $(30 to 70)/week

                • jv on 29/03/2020 - 15:53

                  @ln28909:

                  like why international and not domestic

                  racism…

          • Saura on 29/03/2020 - 09:43

            @Kingfield: I assure you students are not getting 500 a week. Not even that much a fortnight. If your talking about stimulus bonuses well.. students don't get the bonuses.

    • skidexa on 28/03/2020 - 23:39
      +7

      Domestic students have family here they can go to, international students most likely don't…

    • GrimCheaper on 29/03/2020 - 12:20
      +1

      No good deed goes unpunished, huh JV? Small communities are trying to pitch in and help with the resources they have. Unfortunately this means no single group can help everyone at once. With your mindset, no one should not even bother helping anyone else. Pathetic. How about you use the 1000 redundant comments you would have posted on ozbargain today, and use them to spread awareness of the hungry domestic students you care so much about?

    • EnALup on 29/03/2020 - 13:22

      Please stop trolling guys !!!
      International students have parents and families overseas and mostly working part time and lost their jobs. Appreciate nice gesture and see if you can help too.
      For Aus citizens ( students or not), centrelink is helping them.
      All we want is people in need are getting help. If not, lets see how we all can help.

      Be a part of solution and not the problem.

    • abv on 28/03/2020 - 22:49
      +17

      Impact doesn’t mean that they are sick. They might have lost job and they don’t have any money to pay for food.

      • [Deactivated] on 29/03/2020 - 07:56
        +8

        I know several international students who have all lost their jobs and pay weekly rent here and their school fees. Now without any hope of getting a job and no way to go back home, they'll literally be left with no option but to live on the streets. This is why this program is so important to help those in need. Have a heart for gods sake. Love not hate. Humanity is lost on so many posting here, perhaps you need to analyse yourself a little more and ask why you have such a cruel heart.

  • dufflover on 29/03/2020 - 00:01
    +5

    pfft, Uni's should be forking out to look after them. They were willing to pay them thousands to get them here in the first place even with the early bans after all.

    • Nathw on 29/03/2020 - 00:21
      +1

      Not all international students are from china lol, just so you know

    • UrbionPT on 29/03/2020 - 01:05
      +3

      "International students injected $31.9 billion into Australia's economy last financial year, directly boosting Australian jobs and wages – including in regional Australia."

    • Saura on 29/03/2020 - 09:49

      Some unis already have being

  • jackspratt on 29/03/2020 - 02:21
    +17

    The miserable and negative "look every gift horse in the mouth" minority on OzB continue their relentless questioning of every good deed that is posted.

    You know who you are. ☹️

    • chillipaste on 29/03/2020 - 09:46
      +1

      Problem: they don't.

      • jackspratt on 29/03/2020 - 14:11

        Based on the 2 neg votes, at least a couple of them do.

  • Love a bargain on 29/03/2020 - 02:37
    -1

    As part of their visa condition, international students are supposed to demonstrate that they have enough fund to support themselves. So why do they now have to resort to food handout just because we're in lockdown?

    On the other hand, a lot of local students have to work part-time jobs to pay their bills. Shouldn't they be more deserving of assistance.

    • educalifa on 29/03/2020 - 02:52
      +10

      Yeah, because only in Australia ppl have lost their jobs, right? Do you THINK that perhaps some of these students' parents have lost their main source of income back home???

      I swear to God… what's wrong with ppl? It's a post about ppl going out of their way to help strangers and you come here with "more deserving". Faith in humanity decreasing fast.

      • ln28909 on 29/03/2020 - 03:00
        +1

        the fact that it discriminates between international and domestic students is the problem

        Like sure I understand elderly and socially isolated people, but could you tell me why they should discriminate between international and domestic students?

        Actually, the more I think, the harder it is to understand. I'm gonna neg this deal until someone explains why this discrimination is appropriate

        • zine21 on 29/03/2020 - 12:11
          +4

          you're pretty dense. it says international students and others impacted by the corona crisis - meaning if domestic students or others are affected by it - they also get the meal.

          • ln28909 on 29/03/2020 - 14:24
            +1

            @zine21: So why is the massive title needs to include an extra word if there is no meaning to it

            • jackspratt on 29/03/2020 - 14:43

              @ln28909: Why don't you PM the OP to seek a clarification, instead of trying to create an issue where no-one else can see one?

              • ln28909 on 29/03/2020 - 14:48
                +1

                @jackspratt: OP said above that he is not associated, and ummm have you been looking at the thread closely, clearly there is something here

      • Love a bargain on 29/03/2020 - 03:16
        +10

        If their parents can afford to send them to school in Australia, they're probably not coming from a hand-to-mouth kind of family. The matter of the fact remains that they're legally required to prove hat they've got access to enough money to finance their study and their stay before they are allowed to come into the country and are not suppose to rely on working while they're here to support themselves (i.e. anything they make is only supposed to be pocket money).

        And when compared to a normal local student here who's paying their own way with no financial support from the family, it's easy to see who's more likely to suffer.

        Why anyone would think that an average international student is more desperate than an average local student is beyond me.

        It wouldn't have been as much of an issue if they'd just offered it to all students or, better still, everyone who's in need.

        • hdus002 on 29/03/2020 - 09:20
          +7

          I think tha'ts what someone explained earlier. Domestic students (or their parents, if the parents were supporting them and lost their income) would get help from Centerlink to get thru this time.

          International students don't have this support. They could easily be from a business family overseas which has had to shutdown due to this pandemic and their parents lost their main source of income. That's just an example, parents could be regular high-salaried people too (eg doctors or engineers) who've lost their job.

          Anyways whatever the reasons are, the fact is there are many international students facing hardship due to Corona, with no other support mechanism, and not enough money to go back home. What do you suggest? Let them sleep in the streets and starve to death?

          • ln28909 on 29/03/2020 - 11:25

            @hdus002: This deal create two sides: international and domestic students, I suggest that it should be just student in general, as it is hard to determine the differences between their financial position.

            This post implies that international students are facing significant more financial hardship and therefore deserve the exclusive right to this deal which could not be justified within reasons

          • Love a bargain on 29/03/2020 - 12:38
            +1

            @hdus002:

            They could easily be from a business family overseas which has had to shutdown due to this pandemic and their parents lost their main source of income. That's just an example, parents could be regular high-salaried people too (eg doctors or engineers) who've lost their job.

            Most high-salaried people aren't losing their jobs at this moment (yes, some might be stand down temporarily or are made to use up their annual leave but most professionals aren't being fired) and most people with a well-paying job or a business that's been doing well have something called savings.

            And change in circumstances back home is an inherent risk in the decision to study overseas.

        • educalifa on 29/03/2020 - 11:19
          +2

          How exactly do you figure that, @Love a bargain? Pretty much ALL domestic students have some form of support from their families. Be it cash, housing and food at an extremely low price (boarding), using their parents car and etc…

          Sure, these ppl have the legal obligation of being able to support themselves. And they were, until this whole COVID19 thing hit. Now we can all pretend this is not our problem and let them to fend for themselves whilst we help ppl who actually have the support net of their families locally. Cause for some reason, these ppl are "more deserving".

          Now imagine if we used the same scenario on the health system. And all of sudden, all Aussies abroad were not allowed to access hospitals whilst overseas during this crisis cause, you know… locals are more deserving. It's a stupid xenophobic sentiment and it has no place in Australia. We are better than that as a nation.

          And if you want 'reasons' to help ease your mind, there are some too… like the fact international students are the 2nd biggest source of revenue for our economy. So what, right? Well, that means you benefit from them as much if not more than they benefit from you. Go ahead, turn your back on them in a time of need and see how many will come back when our economy is struggling after this pandemic is over.

          If you don't want to do this to help a fellow human, do it to save yourself… I guess this is how selfish ppl think.

          • ln28909 on 29/03/2020 - 11:40

            @educalifa: Your 1st point: support from family

            In this case, domestic students studying away from home i.e interstate, etc. Would share a fairly similar living position with international student which leaves us with
            - wdym by cash, with the interconnected financial systems, this does not seems valid
            - cheap food from boarding: both internationals and domestic have access too

            Your 2nd point: comparison with health system, Italy is restricting people from accessing the hospital, i.e. if capacity is full, those with a higher chance of survival should be of priority (actually not too sure if this is true)
            - if it is not, then, another counter argument would be, here international students have more than one viable options, most notably either staying or leaving the country. The healthcare situation, probably the only viable option is to be treated right away. As a result, it is not a fair comparison, but rather too extreme

            Your 3rd point: we receive a huge amount of income from international students
            Sure that is true, however, that is only from our perspective.
            Consider this as a deal between international student and Australia (I.e. international students agree to pay an exorbitant amount of money to study here). Now for a deal to be achieved, more than likely that either bottle parties think the deal is fair or think that their end of the deal is better.

            Therefore, international students would consider the fee to be either equal or less to the benefit gains from studying in Australia i.e. the prospect of achieving citizenship and its possible benefits justify the exorbitant fee. Thereby, the 3rd point seems weak argument wise

            • educalifa on 29/03/2020 - 11:59

              @ln28909: 1st- Students living interstate still have a much better local support system than 90% of international students… you're thinking international students come from Europe? These guys are pretty much all from developing countries where there's no such thing as a decent 'Centrelink' or a health system to help their families, so counting on them at this stage is foolish.

              2nd- Restricting ppl on the health system is based by age, just like you said, not nationality… and it's done because they want to focus on the ppl with a higher chance of survival. It really has no basis for comparison on this scenario. It simply doesn't apply. "Leaving" is not really an option for many. Thousands of flights cancelled and not every country is sending in chartered planes to rescue their citizens. And even if you do get a flight, a lot of boarders are closed and if you have connecting flights there's a good chance you can get stuck. It happened to someone I know but she isn't a student.

              3rd- Yes! They sure do. But my point is that this perception of equality or 'worth' might change if we decide to turn our backs on them to help the locals only.

              To be honest, I think the whole idea of 'locals' vs 'internationals' is ludicrous at the best of times and it is especially silly now. We as a society should be helping each other out, period. Where you were geographically located when your mom gave birth or whether you possess a piece of paper saying you're part of a group or not should not be the standard to define whether we help someone or not.

          • Love a bargain on 29/03/2020 - 12:32

            @educalifa:

            Pretty much ALL domestic students have some form of support from their families. Be it cash, housing and food at an extremely low price (boarding), using their parents car and etc…

            Not sure how you get your stats on that. Plenty of local students are living away from home and supporting themselves - yes, with HECS & Austudy etc but still have to work to cover their bills.

            international students are the 2nd biggest source of revenue for our economy.

            They purchase a service, which is the education they receive, not entitlement to our welfare system. If this industry is built on rocky foundation, then we as a country should diversify.

            • educalifa on 30/03/2020 - 00:48

              @Love a bargain: @Love a bargain

              So as you can see, by having HECS and Austudy (not to mention student cards discounts which international are NOT entitled to) they already have a better support system…

              And, wrong again, they are in fact entitled to our welfare system! It is actually mandatory that they pay for private health cover which then gives them access to our health system. You see, they PAY for it. And that's despite they also paying their taxes like any other Australian.

              • Love a bargain on 30/03/2020 - 03:46
                -2

                @educalifa: Those international student could have had subsidised education in the home country but they chose to study in Australia, that's an investment. If I choose to study overseas (and I did in my youth), I do not expect to be bailed out by the host government whatever happens.

                Private health cover is an insurance they are required to purchase to cover their medical bill - not a contribution to our government or public health care system - which is put in place to make sure they do not become a burden to our healthcare system.

                • educalifa on 31/03/2020 - 07:08

                  @Love a bargain: @Love a bargain

                  You seriously have no idea what life is like in a developing country, do you? "Subsidized education" are you for real??? And the government is not bailing anyone out… it's a group of ppl getting together during the biggest crisis you will see in your lifetime and offering them a free meal. That's it. You're being petty and xenophobic. Take a good look at yourself. What you're doing is unAustralian and has no place in society regardless of the country.

                  I'm done with this conversation.

                  • Love a bargain on 31/03/2020 - 12:24
                    -1

                    @educalifa: Many developing countries have universities too. & I'm pretty sure it'd be cheaper to go to one of those in their own home country than coming to Australia. So yea, the choice of coming to Australia is an investment they chose to make and that comes with inherent risk.

                    I'm not against foreign students/ visitors/ workers/ etc but I'm against the ideas that:
                    - foreign students are poor and in more desperate need than our local kids
                    - foreign students are our VIP and we need to protect this "industry"
                    - it's okay and acceptable to break immigration rules
                    - foreigners should be entitled to bail out/ welfare/ support from their host country

        • zine21 on 29/03/2020 - 12:15
          +1

          they are offering it to those impacted by the crisis - aka - all in need. they just highlighted international students - so everyone is choosing to attack them for a good deed which they dont need to offer in the first place.

          I mean whos stopping you guys from providing a free meal to local students? instead of finding something to attack even in a good deed - maybe do something useful.

    • ozzieblue on 29/03/2020 - 09:07
      +3

      Like everything this should ideally be means tested.
      Wealthy international students should not get handouts while those on the breadline should be helped. Most of the international students (that have got work from our company - once qualified) have been on the higher end of the wealth spectrum (this is generally an obvious statement given the fees they are paying).
      Same with local students.

      • educalifa on 29/03/2020 - 11:23
        +1

        Ask those ppl your company hired, how many of them would have gone out of their way to get a free meal. When you're wealthy, you go and buy what you want, when you want it. I doubt very much you'll find a majority of 'wealthy students' lining up for a meal to save a buck.

        • ln28909 on 29/03/2020 - 11:42
          +1

          This assumes that people who would lineup actually need the meals in someway, so why do you need to further differentiate between international and domestic students, isn't this redundant in helping achieving the goal of providing meals to people in needs

          • educalifa on 29/03/2020 - 12:00

            @ln28909: Like it was said below, they won't check if you're international or not regardless…

      • zine21 on 29/03/2020 - 12:19

        means-tested ? might as well ask them to bring bank statements for their entire family, 100 points of ID and proof of impact before a meal can be handed to them.

  • KaTst3R on 29/03/2020 - 10:55
    +7

    People are just trying to do good. The organisers probably didnt have discrimination intentions. Can all of you just STFU and spread the news. These restaurants are not gonna check if you are a local or international student. They will just see your school card and pass along a take away box. Stop being such a snowflake.

    • ln28909 on 29/03/2020 - 11:44
      -3

      Sure if they do not have discrimination intentions, what is difficult about taking out the word "international" in the description, and since the argument was bought up and no action was taken,
      - either organizers have not checked this thread, then they should and make suitable changes
      - or they have and choose to ignore which is why the argument continues

      • Ononono on 29/03/2020 - 12:53
        +1

        I doubt they care what you think, they're too busy helping others whilst you're having a sook over such a mundane issue

  • lonewolf on 29/03/2020 - 12:41
    +1

    Been working at a Uni for more than 20 years, I work on the professional side of things, The idea that international students are poor doesnt add up at least from my university. The vast majority have to spend a heck of a lot on fees and come from wealthy families.

    • gmail92 on 29/03/2020 - 12:45

      *Caveat there is vast majority.

      • lonewolf on 29/03/2020 - 12:50
        +1

        ok let me clarify, All have to spend a lot on fees, it is considered a luxury to be an international student. They either come from rich families or rich extended families willing to pay the fees as well as housing and food etc for them. This can not be achieved by doing part time work here. The university also has checks in place to see if they can afford to pay it. The poorer people in those countries usually either get educated at home or sadly dont get any education.

        it is a shame its like that but there it is, Universities make a lot of money out of these students and push academics to pass them where the domestic students fail. Because If you fail an international student, it apparently shows up in some companies that promote all this overseas and they keep track of unversities and how many passes / fails for international students occur in them… A lot of academics complain to me about this all the time, I remember the head of the chinese languages department was talking to me about how upset he was that all these parents spend so much money sending their kids over and buying them fancy cars and homes to live in while they are here and yet alot of them treat it like a party and actually end up failing their mother tongue even though they have lived all their lives in that country and how he is pressured to still pass them because they are international.

        • Ononono on 29/03/2020 - 13:05
          +3

          The notion that all international students are wealthy is not close to being true. Many students come from countries like Vietnam, Thailand, India, and their families having made huge sacrifices to send them overseas to study. I've taught students that told me their parents have spent their whole life savings and taken out huge loans just to send them overseas for a chance at a better life.

          Think about how many international students you see working part time, why would they need to work if they're from wealthy families? The rich Chinese student you see driving a Mercedes is a small, visible minority. Anyone that has actually worked with international students would know this.

          • lonewolf on 29/03/2020 - 13:26

            @Ononono: I can only tell you what is happening in my university, The students i know who came from poorer backgrounds were doing Masters / aka trying to get Australian PR, so the parents save up to send them here knowing that once they pass, they get Australian PR and then can bring their families over. When it comes to undergrad its different which is where the vast amounts of international students come from.

            Like I said i have worked at a university for 20 years. I know a lot of international students. IF you are saying the vast majority of international students are poor then i cant agree with this at all.

            • Ononono on 29/03/2020 - 13:41
              +2

              @lonewolf: It could also depend on which uni, I worked at a smaller university and most of the internationals were definitely not wealthy. I'd imagine the Go8 would attract the students with more money.

              I agree that majority are not poor but there is also a misconception that every international student is rich, which I think is not fair to say when many of them are struggling now.

              • lonewolf on 29/03/2020 - 13:55

                @Ononono: I guess you have hit the nail on the head, the concept of wealthy or poor might be different. I am a migrant that came from one of the countries you meantioned. I / my family helped a couple of our cousins education by paying for it and having them come and live with us because their families were poor. My concept of poor might be coming from the fact that i came from those countries, if you are poor, there is no way you can save and send your kids to international education places which costs 10s of thousands per year. But those countries for a long time only had a lot of poor and then the wealthy, their middle class has gotten a lot larger in recent years and their middle class is still considered wealthy in those countries because the cost of living is lower.

                So basically what i was saying I guess is i find it hard to believe that there can be international students who are starving or about to lose the roof over their heads if they managed to pay for international fees. Poor where i came from meant you lived day by day from farms and what little you could scrounge up, there wasnt really much if any at all to put away as savings, definitely not enough to one day pay the exorbitant fees.

            • EnALup on 29/03/2020 - 14:05

              @lonewolf: lol. Are you living under a stone?
              There is a reason international students mostly are doing odd jobs and paid mostly below standard rate too paying for their education loans and expenses. There are very less students who are super rich. Dont generalise.

              • lonewolf on 29/03/2020 - 14:07
                +2

                @EnALup: nope not living under a stone, I know a lot of international students both from work and from social. I never said super rich but with your opening line, i can say you are not someone who can discuss things. A lot do jobs because they want extra income for numerous reasons not because they are starving. These odd jobs wont be enough to pay for a home, travel expenses and university fees. If they are being paid below the Award rates its because they want cash in hand and / or they want to work more hours than they are meant to be.

                • gmail92 on 30/03/2020 - 17:14
                  -1

                  @lonewolf: Do you have access to socioeconomic data and welfare of international students or do you just see dollar signs floating above their heads?
                  I'm pretty sure you can't visually differentiate the wealth of international students by just looking at them. Just because you haven't seen them doesn't mean they do not exist and are not struggling.

                  Clearly this post is targeted at the minority who you aren't referring to and refuse to acknowledge.

                  • lonewolf on 30/03/2020 - 17:30

                    @gmail92: Like i said I work on the admin side, I am privy to economic information on the students. Refuse to acknowledge? I have some family as well as lots of friends who are international students on the personal aspect as well as work for a University on the admin / professional side of student intake.

                    I have also clarified what one person deems as poor is not what another person may deem as such. Having been born in and come out of a village in a third world country, I know the difference between being poor / poverty and being able to attend a university overseas as a international student. I can tell you this quite plainly, no-one from a village can save up enough to go to a university as a international student unless they have family / extended family who can afford it on their behalf.

                    But there was a post although i cant find, which is about the language colleges etc, I am not sure what their fees are like, some people i know who are here via that method came here more to actually experience being here for a bit and working / making some extra cash than actually any interest in the college itself or their studies but I am sure there are others that come here just for that. I presume they would be considerably cheaper than a university so less requirement of funds or being able to prove you have funds to stay here for that period.

                    My point was though government / visas have considerable red tape and part of that is students showing a level of funds etc, Since they have to fly here, get a roof over their heads as well as eat etc plus pay uni fees. I would say there are locals in australia with less funds who cant afford to fly or go overseas for education. But more say what i was saying is go to a third world country and go look at the poor and you will realise the people that come here are generally more from the cities and hence them / their families are actually not doing that bad in their country compared to the poor in their country. The poor dont get to consider tertiary education sometimes in their own country much less even know about sending them overseas, they hope their kids can get some education then get out into the work force in their country. They live on a day by day means. There is no savings. They dont always have electricity, their bathrooms are a lot of times outside, alot of times their water are from wells.

  • Ace26 on 29/03/2020 - 14:57
    +1

    I wonder if anyone who is not an international student that actually tried to access this free food and got rejected or bothered to send an email address provided.

    • ln28909 on 29/03/2020 - 19:29
      -3

      Wow okay, so this whole debacle was as a result of your error OP, I read the link probably again, and it says, "free food for International students and those who are affected by COVID-19 who need a meal in this unprecedented time" as per your description, which is perfectly great.

      I thought the title of the post was written by the organizer and copy and paste by OP, but turn out was written by OP. The argument was based on this title which turns out to be just an error.

      Title should have been

      [NSW] Free Food for those who are affected by COVID-19 including international students at Harris Park, 5PM to 7PM Everyday @ Little India Australia

      So long as there is no discrimination between domestic and international as currently implied by the current title, this is a good deal.

      My bad for not clarifying this upfront.

      EDIT: OP description seems like a copy and paste due to the formatting, but is not the exact same as the website. So either the organizer changed the info on the website or OP just decided to add emojis in his description of the deal.

      Could you please clarify which is the case, OP?

  • qweenDalilahHur on 30/03/2020 - 00:16
    -2

    I love how contactless takeaway is a new thing…. What about the person making our food with there unwashed hands. Spreading the virus if they have it. Even if they just talk over your food there is a 99% chance there saliva will be in your food.

  • NoApostrophePlurals on 30/03/2020 - 04:55
    -1

    There shouldn't be an offer of free food to tempt people to come out of self isolation, even just to pop out quickly for a free takeaway. It defeats the entire purpose of the exercise.

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