Here is a link with more info about the PC: http://aldi.medion.com/md34045/au/?wt_mc=au.coop.md34045.aau…
PC comes with:
Intel® Core I3-8100 processor
1TB HDD
8GB DDR4 RAM
Hot-Swap mobile rack
Includes keyboard & mouse
Also comes with built in wireless adapter!
2 years warranty.
What graphics do you expect for in a $599 build?
With other components that cheap, any decent mid level would fit.
They're out to make a quick buck unfortunately. Considering the build would cost them $300-$450 roughly, so cutting out a $100 GTX1030 or similar gives Aldi/Medion some extra cash.
Gtx 1080ti
You can build this through online retailers like Mwave or PCCaseGear for less. Would probably be less generic parts too.
This has a 2 year warranty though (with manf. Medion). Not sure of what their warranty is like however.
Handled by Aldi ? or not.
They have a technical helpdesk.
Warranty info just says "MEDION® offers a free two-year warranty on this product. Please visit www.medion.com.au for fast and easy access to all the information about the MEDION after-sales service which you are of course welcome to use after the two years! "
Aldi themsleves doesn't provide any warranty / tech help service whatsoever, but I don't actually know if the product can be returned to the store or they send a courier to grab the product.
My experiences with Aldi warranty (for a pvr and a pressure washer) are bad. Once your're outside the in-store return period assume the worst.
@scrimshaw: Consumer law states that products can indeed be returned to the place of purchase. Don't let Aldi drones tell you otherwise.
The extra year of phone support is not worth it. These days CPUs have a 2 year warranty, hard drives 3-5, good RAM gets 2 years, and graphics cards tend to 3.
I assume motherboards are in lockstep with that, which leaves you with a price premium for phone support. It's not only a bargain if you don't know what a cheap pc build costs.
Can you build one? include a wireless adapter built in.
And then we'll see..
A PCI wireless adapter is like $30
or 10 bux usb with internal usb header convertor.
Or a basic ASUS/D-Link/Edimax for $19 from PCCG.
with msy you. might scrape an i5 for the money if you use the msy case and power supply.
problem for aldi is prices in PCs drop so fast by the time they get a deal lined up which takes many months the street price has droppped already on generic part equivalents.
What?? I tried from mwave just now (whom are cheaper than PcCaseGear at the moment) using all the lowest priced matching parts and it was $609. Not including keyboard and mouse, WiFi, hot-swap hdd caddy or windows (also no warranty, 60 day return policy and you have to build it yourself).
Agree, just tried now too.
Well it comes with windows so it's $821, and price at Aldi $600 - big difference.
Wait does it come with 2 year warranty? Don't think so, so I mean…
Also estimated $50 for assembly, $880?
These Medion PCs are buckets of sh!t. All non-standard manufacturer parts and almost guaranteed to break before or just after the warranty runs out. Source: friend has bought multiple laptops/pcs from Aldi and all have under-performed for their specs and broken close to warranty time. Aldi have some great special buys but not worth buying anything electrical from them imo.
Also see GlobalNomad's comments below- Medion PC's are not pails full of faeces and it is annoying that so many people diss Aldi products usually with second-hand anecdotal "evidence".
We have owned or bought for relatives 20+ Medion PC's/ laptops and everyone of them is still working. One laptop is 14 years old, the hard-drive and battery were replaced 7 years ago and apart from needing a new battery again is running OK.
A second laptop bought in 2011, had a Seagate hard-drive failure after 13 months (not Medion's fault) and was replaced under the 2 year warranty that Medion provided.
I have built & repaired PC's/ laptops and the basic Medion products are imo better quality than Dell's basic machines and for the money and usually better warranty, you cannot beat them.
Regarding Aldi electrical & other products in general, we must own around 300+ Medion, Tevion, WorkZone, Bauhn, Sterling, Kuchef etc, etc, items, ranging from TV's, aircon units, SatNavs, robot vacuums, power tools, chainsaws, blowers, paper cutters, phones, mobiles, kettles, cameras, scales, (you get the picture) and the only problems encountered have been-
1) Robot vacuum developed an error code. The whole electronic sensory system was replaced at my house 2 years and 10 months into its 3 year warranty. I was also supplied with a new Li-Ion battery.
2) WorkZone battery drill wouldn't charge after 10 months of ownership. They sent 2 replacement 18v batteries.
3) The plastic hinge on a kettle lid (due to heat stress) failed after 10 months and the lid wouldn't stay closed. Took kettle back to Aldi and received full refund.
I would say that's a great product reliability record and an excellent warranty service which Aldi should receive recognition for.
For the combination of quality, warranty and price point you can not go wrong with Aldi merchandise.
Isn't that why Kogan seem to have successfully copied Aldi's business model and found Aldi's or similar various Chinese manufacturers and offer their own "Kogan" branded cheap electrical products.
I prefer to pay slightly more to get something that is going to last and not rely on being replaced before the warranty is out. I feel Aldi thrive on our throwaway society and produce electrical items of minimum acceptable quality at minimum price. All the brands you listed are the bottom of the barrel in terms of quality with respect to their competitors. Won't someone think of the environment?
That's a fair comment and I totally agree about products ending up as land-fill, but that's what I was trying to convey in my post- I still have and use the vast majority of Aldi products purchased since they opened shop in Australia and very few have ended up in the bin.
Doesn't the product longevity that I have experienced with Aldi items indicate the opposite of your argument and that you're not automatically buying trash from Aldi.
If Aldi just want to sell rubbish why do the offer far longer warranties that other sellers (some are 5 years), and will repair them so you can carry on using them and NOT have to throw them away? Sort of doesn't fit with your comments.
Do you own any Aldi merchandise?
If Aldi just want to sell rubbish why do the offer far longer warranties that other sellers (some are 5 years), and will repair them so you can carry on using them and NOT have to throw them away? Sort of doesn't fit with your comments.
They offer this because they know that most people will not bother with warranty claims on cheap products nor taking back a cheap item to the store.
Doesn't the product longevity that I have experienced with Aldi items indicate the opposite of your argument and that you're not automatically buying trash from Aldi.
ALDI sell the same cheap Chinese rubbish that other retailers like KMART and BIGW sell. They don't manufacturer anything but they buy on price alone, they don't care if the product is safe, advertised correctly, performs correctly or anything. It's all about selling a maximum amount of rubbish because it's ALDI. They pay off the media to say good things all the time and ramp up demand.
Most things sold are now obsolete in a couple years anyway…
They offer this because they know that most people will not bother with warranty claims on cheap products (evidence) nor taking back a cheap item to the store. (evidence)
ALDI sell the same cheap Chinese rubbish that other retailers like KMART and BIGW sell. They don't manufacturer anything but they buy on price alone, they don't care if the product is safe, (evidence) advertised correctly, (evidence) performs correctly (evidence) or anything. It's all about selling a maximum amount of rubbish because it's ALDI. They pay off the media to say good things all the time and ramp up demand. (evidence)
I have given true information of my experience with over 300 Aldi products, they perform well and have excellent warranties and back-up. Also, most products are now made in China including Mercedes Benz's, so how is that relevant to quality?
Do you know how large a company Aldi is? It's their buying power that results in low prices, not because their manufacturers supply inferior products.
I'm not associated with Aldi in anyway, but pleased they came to Australia with their lean business model which results in lower prices for their patrons.
I ask again, do you own any Aldi products?
: "Citation needed"
No citation needed, ALDI has been caught many times selling cheap unsafe items, they have even sold substitute food products, sell food products made in China, buy the cheapest rubbish from China to make maximum profit etc. I have plenty of experience with ALDI in Australia, Germany and Austria. ALDI care about profit above all else.
Well that's just like, your opinion man.
You don't know what an opinion is. Read what I wrote again and go and use Google if you have to.
Also, most products are now made in China including Mercedes Benz's, so how is that relevant to quality?
Mercedes and BMW and Volkswagen manufacture in China for the Chinese market. When was the last time you heard someone say they want a Chinese or Indian vehicle? Never!
Do you know how large a company Aldi is? It's their buying power that results in low prices, not because their manufacturers supply inferior products.
ALDI sell the same rubbish that other retailers do just with their name on it. The main reason why they do this and don't sell brand name products is because their can be no comparison made.
I'm not associated with Aldi in anyway, but pleased they came to Australia with their lean business model which results in lower prices for their patrons.
ALDI are screwing us left, right and centre on pricing. Why do you think there is room for other German companies to enter the market with lower prices.
I ask again, do you own any Aldi products?
I do from Australia, Germany and other countries.
@Maverick-au: Opinion:
"a view or judgement formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge."
Looks like I know exactly what it is. I wonder if you do.
@Maverick-au: Just the same as Coles & Woolies, buy food items from China, import through NZ, do a bit of packaging in Oz, BOOM- max profit.
You sound to me like a disgruntled ex Aldi employee or a concerned C/W share-holder
I would say that's a great product reliability record and an excellent warranty service which Aldi should receive recognition for.
For buying the cheapest rubbish from China and selling it to the portion of the market that will buy anything cheap! All ALDI sell is landfill, very little of it is quality.
Ditto above
Dam you buy a lot from Aldi!
Yes more people should
I would love for the majority of the stuff we purchase to be made in the same country as the buyers; helping the local population to stay employed, but the neo-con elite have decided the latest country to exploit is China, hence why everything is made there.
My mantra is- don't be sucked into the marketeers branding BS- for the PRICE, Aldi products and the warranties they come with are extremely good value and to be frank, we'd be foolish to not at least buy a few items from Aldi and then compare them to the more expensive "accepted" branded products.
Aldi North and Aldi South are both private family companies, they don't have to buy back shares or do all the other BS listed companies do to inflate the share value to satisfy shareholder expectations.
All businesses need to make a profit but I think you'll find privately owned companies such as Aldi and Lidl, are more similar to the likes of credit unions and mutual building societies.
Just for comparison with some of their older offerings
in 2017 they had $799 desktop
* Intel i5-7400
* 240GB SSD
* 2TB Hard Drive
* 8GB DDR4 Ram
* no GPU and with KB and mouse
in 2016 they had $799 desktop
* Intel Core™ i5-6400
* 128 GB SSD
* 2 TB hard drive
* 8 GB DDR4 RAM
* no GPU and with KB and mouse
in 2015 they had a $599 PC
* 3.20 GHz AMD A8-8650
* 4GB DDR3 memory
* 1TB hard drive. 128GB SSD
* integrated AMD GPU and with KB and mouse
Gotta ask. What do you think is the best deal out of them all Mr scrimshaw?
The 2017 deal for sure. Add a mid-range GPU and maybe another 8GB RAM and that’s a very decent specced machine.
Will this run PUBG on ULTRA?
It will run @ 15-30 ish FPS - search videos for i3 8100 pubg test
so unplayable. haha
Low settings 50 fps ish?
Soooo . Normal for for pubg
If you put a 1050ti (4gb or more) or a 1060 in it you'll have no problem with Pubg or nearly any game at 1080p
Like all things it's horses for courses, but we have found the Medions more than suitable for our needs and represent reasonable value and support options.
Currently have 4 Medion Laptops and 2 Medion PCs, all of varying ages, the oldest PC is now, gosh, at least 10 probably closer to 15 years old, all are working well, the laptops have even traveled the world doing tens of thousands of rugged miles in backpacks.
We did have one laptop have a hard-drive problem about 6 months in, but Courier came and picked it up, returned it a week or so later and has been fine ever since.
I am now touching wood (get your mind out of the gutter) and of course ymmv.
We have owned or bought for relatives 20+ Medion PC's/ laptops and everyone of them is still working. One laptop is 14 years old, the hard-drive and battery were replaced 7 years ago and apart from needing a new battery again is running OK.
A second laptop bought in 2011, had a Seagate hard-drive failure after 13 months (not Medion's fault) and was replaced under the 2 year warranty that Medion provided.
I have built & repaired PC's/ laptops and the basic Medion products are imo better quality than Dell's basic machines and for the money and usually better warranty, you cannot beat them
I'd buy a refurb and add in a gpu
So would this come with a z370 motherboard?
Yeah, it has to cause that's what the chip is compatible with.
That's not bad as cheapest z370 on market is $180, so possibly lot's of room to upgrade
If you try to build the same PC with all the included stuff (wireless adaptar, etc) It'll cost more than $600
Only a fraction more and that's using decent brand parts, who knows what's in these.
https://www.newegg.com/global/au/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N…
$126 Z370 mobo although still need to add shipping probably another $15. This is the cheapest I've seen the z370 so far.
Don't expect it to be an ASUS/MSI/Gigabyte type board. These are probably generic / proprietary style boards that are made to fit in Medion's cases.
As Maverick said, all crap junk quality components outside of the CPU.
probabaly h series chip set …. no need for Z series for home use ….. if you can’t build your own PC you won’t be over clocking.
Upgrades for this pc
8gb ram - $110
120gb ssd - $60
gtx1050ti 4gb - $215
new case - $120
new MB - $69
new PSU - $89
cost of realising you should have built your own - priceless
And lets not forget the look of disdain you get when saying your 'gaming' PC is a Medion.
A new SSD yes, but if it was me Id just run integrated graphics and be fine with 8GB of ram.
Me: I could buy this and get into some basic PC gaming.
Also me: (profanity) though, I've already got hundreds of console games I've not played at all. Last thing I need to do is add to the pile.
just buy an NUC and build your own
Or see the fantastic deals for ex-lease i5/i7 HP and Dell office PCs that get posted here regularly.
Faster, more reliable, cheaper … it is a no-brainer. Use some of the change for a GTX card.
Just add a new SSD or HDD if you don't trust the used one (or know how to check its status).
These new gen i3's are faster than those ancient i5s and i7s. Also can't really claim reliability when the ex-lease computers have been in use for the past 4 years or so.
Moore's law is dead. Benchmarks have improved little in the last 5 years or so.
You can easily find a faster ex-lease box. The exception is the integrated graphics.
The worst part about the cheap machines is the big, ugly noisy cases. And the crappy inefficient power supplies.
What does 3 years use (lease time) matter when there are no moving parts?
Just check the smart status on the hard drive, and replace if needed, or paranoid.
Would you rather a 3yo as-new Mercedes, or a new Kia?
moores, law …. the gains have been in power saving not speed in the last few years .
@manic: There might not be any moving parts, but heat is the enemy of silicon, especially in these old boxes that were likely to not have been cleaned during their time in office buildings.
To fix your car analogy, its like comparing a brand new C-class merc with a 3yo E-class.
Keep in mind the i3 8100 is a quad core chip.
If we buy the parts from MSY:
i3-8100 $158
ASRock Z370 Pro4 $179
8G Single 2133 TeamElite $119
Seagate 3.5" BarraCuda 7200rpm 1TB $64
SATA DVD RW LiteOn $19
Antec VSK3-500 $77
OEM 64 bit MS Windows Home 10 $125
Keybord + mouse $20
Total $761 (parts alone)
SD card reader $20?
Assembly $50?
Complete build $831
This Aldi PC is good value. I like its casing design
This is the problem with these PCs. People look at the specs and compare to what it costs to build it from IT store components and it seems like a great deal. The problem with this is the components in the Medion PCs are generally not name brand parts but cheaply manufactured knock offs. Something that looks awesome on paper then ends up performing very poorly in comparison to one that you could easily build yourself. This might be fine for very casual PC users, but for power users and gamers this is just not acceptable.
The only components you have to worry about is the psu and maybe the motherboard. I've used quite a few of the cheap psu's in the past to build my own workstations for design use and none of them have failed me. Motherboards aren't anything to worry about as well, they're usually made by companies like Quanta and Foxconn, which is not bad considering they make motherboards for plenty of reputable laptops.
So mum and dad build their own and then a hard disk dies.
Does IJK/Mwave/MSY come out and pick up the faulty hard disk?
Do they provide free helpdesk?
For some people, this deal is not only better value, its absolutely critical to their purchasing decision that it includes free support.
Doe you actually think mum and dad care whether they have an MSY or generic? As long as it's covered by warranty, they're good.
Please read the entirety of a comment before replying.
"This might be fine for very casual PC users, but for power users and gamers this is just not acceptable."
Waiting for Bunnings Ozito version and hopefully they price beat this…
I need popcorn. This is like watching people wanting a Ferrari trying to build one from a Toyota Corolla.
Hahahaha
I've built hundreds of PC's over the years and I think this is a good deal. For mum and dad looking for a basic machine for home , this is pretty hard to beat.
The 2 year warranty is sweet as as well.
i wouldn't buy one but I'd rather a friend bought one than get the inevitable It's not working" call .
That's all well n good but what if mum n dad wanna play PUBG huh > UNPLAYABLE <
One for
This may be a good option for people who don't know much about PC's and don't want to go through the hassle of getting things themselves and getting someone to build it . 😀
Doesn't seem to provide info on expandability (no indication of no. of sata connections or expansion slots).
I'd also like more info on Hot-swap mobile rack - eg. how many drive connections?
May consider AMD Ryzen2 (out soon - giving node shrink to 12nm & which should give lower power consumption).
Yes the CPU is less powerful than Intel, but they are cheaper & the inbuilt GPU is better than Intel. Afterall this unit is not intended for gaming unless a reasonably powerful GPU is added.
Cheers, Dennis
Imho the refurbish are better value only thing is 1050ti max I think for gpu and not sure if they can fit in 16gb total of ram
I have confirmed with Medion that the mobo is 370 chip based and 2 M.2 connectors. I think having an Intel Optane Memory 16GB upgrade is worthy. $38 in MSY.
Awesome thanks for confirming
FWIW, I bought one from Forest Hill Aldi at 8:45AM. They said they only had one more in stock.
OK, bought one on Saturday, cloned the OS onto a 512G Intel M2 SSD, swapped the 1TB Toshiba magnetic platter drive with a 6TB Seagate.
there are only 2 RAM slots, with 1 x 8GB stick. I intend to pull this out and stick in 2 x 16 Gig sticks. Plenty of space for an NV1050 or 1060.. not sure if the case is big enough to fit a 1070 or 1080.
Looks to be 1 x PCIe16 and 2 x PCIe (1x/2x/4x) slots (you'll lose access to one of these if you install a chunky graphics card).
still have a spare M2 slot unpopulated, and 3 SATA ports on the motherboard unpopulated.
will need to upgrade the power supply if you want a real graphics card though… aside from being underpowered, there aren't enough connectors for your additional 12V lines.
Can you please take some photos of the interior, specifically the motherboard?
What is the WiFi adaptor?
Could you please tell me if the SATA ports are SATA3 or SATA6? I'm asking for someone who's interested in one of these.
Saw one today at Aldi Gunghalin (ACT).
Cheers
Intel graphics, pass