Not sure when the deal ends but I saw this today. Good if you are going to bake cake.
Best before 23rd Feb
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there's an Eneloop joke in there somewhere.
Interesting comments on this particular bargain. Not everyone can afford free range eggs, or "cage free" eggs. Although let me tell, or rather. show you something in regards to "cage free" eggs: http://www.catandnat.com/content/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/…
Sure they're cage free, but they're not 10000-packed-into-a-small-barn-free.
ESET virus scanner doesn't like that site LOL
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Oh lawwwd LOL I'll change the link. My bad!
Edit: Oh snap, I can't.
Don't click on the link people!
Ok Boss ;)
Everyone can afford to boycott eggs. And it's also the only guarantee that you are not directly exploiting voiceless layer hens.
"cage free" does not always been free range. Unless the product is certified free range (though the standards arnt done very well so far), it is likely just barn eggs, which is only just one set up from cage
Yes that is what I said my friend.
Used to buy the Ww Free Range but have now moved to Manning Valley. Taste (and colour) is so much better you'd swear they're from different species. Highly recommended.
For all the pro free rage supporters…
Free range producer very often cannot keep up with demand so they do purchase in bulk from regular producers and sell them at a massive mark up using their free range cartons.
If in doubt then check with the ACCC for the number of free range producers that have been caught at this.
You will not detect any difference in the eggs, even though you tell yourself you can.
A lot of the propaganda used to discredit the non free range producers is not from Australia…
I used to buy free range until I read this a while back. I gave up after that.
In addition, my in-laws live in the country and have chooks. The chooks are caged for practical reasons, in main because foxes would slaughter them. Technically they are not free range but they are well looked after and the eggs are great. So I am not sure the definition of free range is all that it is lived up to be. I find egg quality is largely affected by the feed the animal is given.
So I am not sure the definition of free range is all that it is lived up to be.
Plus one.
The definition of "Free range" is not what its cracked up to be (pardon the pun).
Until there's a standard enforced onto the egg farms, "free range" could mean anything from a paddock to a cage that is the same size as xywolap pointed out).
Just be grateful we don't have fake eggs on the market.
I think free range means they can turn around. In cages they can't.
Yes we've heard this from you before. A few bad eggs (pi) in the industry doesn't mean the vast majority aren't doing the right thing.
Ignoring the obvious animal welfare issues, which has zero to do with "propaganda" and everything to do with appalling treatment of chooks, if you can't tell the difference between most battery eggs and good free range then you haven't tried Manning Valley eggs.
Possumbly, your voting history tab has a good list of upvoted meat, poultry, pizza hut, fast food, cosmetics & other deals that have products clearly on sale that exploit caged animals & produce. Why the sudden issue with this deal and it's subject matter?
For all the pro free rage supporters…
Hehe.
Interestingly it looks like people seems to care more about animal cruelty than human cruelty. I've never seen any Apple deal got such a debate because of this.
Now, i want to fight a cause for free range Apple:P
I agree. Workers should be allowed outside during the day where they can lunch on worms and grain and should be housed in barns after sunset so they are protected from predators.
To be honest that actually seems like an improvement over their current conditions in some ways :/
Why shouldn't we care equally about animal and human cruelty? Why does human suffering trump that of animals?
Um… maybe because other humans are more similar to us than non-human animals. Plus a multitude of other obvious reasons.
Srsly, dude?
How is that justifiable? That literally makes zero sense. We shouldn't care about anything besides humans apparently. So many reasons that you can't even list any.
We shouldn't care about anything besides humans apparently.
No, that's a straw man. You suggested that:
we care equally about animal and human cruelty
Which is what I'm arguing against.
So many reasons that you can't even list any.
I didn't bother because they're obvious and I wasn't sure you were serious. But I'll humour you:
Other humans are more similar to us than non-human animals and hence we have more empathy with them.
Humans are the most intelligent animals on Earth and are much more intelligent than any farmed animal.
Humans have more social and economic value to us than non-human animals.
I'm going to stop there, just because it seems ridiculous to have to explain such a thing.
Interesting to note there Rupture that your up-vote history contains pages worth of upvotes for hamburger, Grill'd, cosmetics, pizza hut, boost & Woolies/Coles bargain postings - that all include products using caged eggs, animals & ethically unsound products.
Why the sudden neg for this deal?
Apple has better marketing.
Ease up mate, let's not go comparing chicken poop to Apple users. Chicken poop has feelings too, you know.
I'm confused. So why did the chicken cross the road again?
Because it wasn't in a cage?
KFC deals attract quite a few positive votes here.
Almost every last user in here who has negged this deal, has up-votes recorded in their voting history for KFC and other chicken related bargain posts. The hypocrisy in here is amazing.
Keeping any animal in a farm is also cruel, all animals should just roam freely around the world.
Exactly.. I guess this means keeping dogs in your backyard is cruel as in the wild they have several acres to roam. Unless your property is several acres you shouldn't be allowed to own a dog.
Jking lol.. But do think about the implications.
Unless you keep your dog in a shoe box then it's hardly comparable.
Lol at all the people saying caged eggs are cruel… free range eggs are basically caged eggs with a higher price tag and a different label.
Caged eggs are unethical, wouldn't buy even if they were 1c
What about if they were free? (In price not range)
Who would pay if they were free?
You mean they're Free-Range Eggs, not Free Range-Eggs?
I'd better go back to Woolies and pay for all the Range-Eggs I've taken home over the years.
As soon as I saw this title I thought to check it out because I knew there was going to be a ton of comments from hippies about it. I was right. You can't say that vegan or vegetarianism is any better. Science has proven that plants feel pain too. When it comes down to it the only reason that cage eggs or cruel farm practices even exist is because of demand. Why is there such a high demand? Because of over population. The real answer here is to get rid of humans. Most of the world's problems amount to that. Animal activists are barking up the wrong tree. If you want to end animal cruelty start with the root of the issue and by way of organic growth the need for industrial farming will go away.
Very well said.
I'm sorry, but that's just daft.
There are ways in which we can humanely eat meat, or the by products of animals. Putting chickens in cages to harvest their eggs is NOT one of them. I don't agree that this is a 'if we can't have everything 100%, then we shouldn't' bother doing anything' scenario.
Also, I don't agree that if we switched to free-range eggs, that supply would become an issue, other parts of the world have done it, and are still able to supply eggs. It's just a choice between 15 cents an egg, or 20 cents an egg.
Human beings are good at lying to themselves. There's no such thing called "humanely eat meat". I eat meat, but I know what I am doing and won't feel offended if vegetarians doubt it. Is there a way to humanely eat human?
I guess when it comes to other people, "eating out" has never been a problem, so long as teeth aren't involved……. :)
Lots of invalid neg votes here lolol.
I agree and I have reported a few of them to the mods. The previous egg deal didn't get any negative votes! I'm not supporting caged eggs but caged eggs are legal in Australia just like Apple iPhones! If we have to vote considering the company's ethics then most of the deals would have more negative than positive votes
I know right all of these are based on what be like or not like. Regaurdless if you think it's cruel or not there's many Crum thing done. Apple cruelly sells old tech at Extortionate prices doesn't mean I can neg vote them deals and I don't.
If the government went through a transition process to ban the sale of caged eggs, it would only push up prices marginally. Because they don't, we are charged significantly more for free-range eggs because they're seen as a 'premium' product.
The way in which caged chooks are kept is disgusting, and their eggs are inferior too. Move to free range, it's marginally more expensive if done right (Look at parts of the EU) and is better for everyone.
Could you quantify that with some statistics?
I'd happily pay X % more for eggs with X % more nutrition. But if they had less than X % more nutrition, I'd be worse off.
The real Ozbargain is to keep a couple of chickens in your backyard, feed them on your kitchen scraps and enjoy the very fresh eggs as well as having pets with great character! Cost of the chicken is recouped in two or three weeks.
I have 5 chooks - 3 ISA Browns and 2 Australorps in suburbia. They live in this http://www.royalrooster.com.au/coops/chicken-castle-royale.h… and I allow them out for 2 hours per day in the evenings to free range so they fulfill their natural Chook needs. They are awesome and all have distinct personalities. They even put themselves to bed at dusk. Great with the kids and they will follow you around and compete for your attention.
I want my chooks to live in comfort and my start up cost was quite high but in the mid term will pay for itself. I get between 30 - 35 eggs per week and share with family, friends and neighbors.
They are fed on kitchen scraps and pellets so they get all the nutrients required to keep them healthy. I also get great fertilizer for the veggie patch once composted.
Before I clicked on this deal, I guessed (based on the neg votes) that people would spiral into a humanitarian debate.
I buy free-range but i'm pro-choice. If you can't afford free-range or choose not to, this is a bargain. Can't we just leave it at that?
I guessed (based on the neg votes) that people would spiral into a humanitarian debate.
people would spiral into a humanitarian debate.
a humanitarian debate.
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b….b…..b….but animals are people too !!!!
We all know that cage eggs are fuller flavoured, cheaper and bigger but I do wonder what the turnover rate is for the poor chicken. Maybe make the cages bigger and feed them fat while they are laying and then kill them for the meat at shorter intervals?
Cage eggs are bigger and fuller flavoured? what have you been smoking? i get free range ones from my brother and they are much yellower (naturally) and much better flavour than caged eggs (even the other ones) from the supermarket because they have generally been sitting there much longer including packing/transportation times etc.
In my experience free range eggs are more colourful and taste better, if there is a nutrition info guide, they have ~50% more protein too.
they have ~50% more protein too.
Source?
Whilst this is probably considered a bargain for eggs, I would not be upvoting it as I am strongly against the idea of eating eggs from an animal that has been kept inside a tiny cage for most of its existance.
I have no issue with eating eggs or chicken but we should be able to consume these products without doing so through the cruelty of animals. I find it amusing how people think animals are on the earth for us to consume and we can treat them however we choose, not sure if they are ignorant or religious, or both.
You can downvotethe 'deal', like I'm about to.
LOL, wut, Spuddy?
Your voting history shows you having upvoted bargain posts on discount chicken, lamb, KFC & pizza hut deals. Deals clearly involving the use of caged eggs, chickens & other animals. Seems a bit hypocritical?
As some large supermarkets have planned to totally remove this product, as it's not a good product, I'm voting down.
Recommend caged eggs be banned from OzBargain, as they will be in supermarkets eventually. Coles have banned them already, http://www.coles.com.au/corporate-responsibility/responsible…
wow, I didnt realise Coles had already banned them, they were also the first supermarket to sell Sow Stall free Pork. I shop at Coles and didn't realise they only now sell free range, guess I don't look for the cage eggs
They haven't banned them. They still sell caged eggs nationally & via online order/delivery.
The entire European Union moved to completely ban conventional battery cage over 15 years ago because of what a horrible practice it is.
It's ridiculous we still allow it in this country.
They haven't banned them at all. They still sell caged eggs nationally & via online order/delivery. They have no plan to stop the sale of them at all.
We’re proud that all Coles brand eggs are cage free;
All they've done is removed the "Coles" branding from their Cage Eggs and replaced it with "Just 4 You":
Just 4 You Cage X Large Eggs 12 pack 700g $2.99
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Although I am a true OzBargainer I still pay little extra and buy free range eggs. That the least I could do for the poor hens.
I am not negging the deal because it is still a deal for those who buys cage eggs. But buying cage or free range eggs is personal choice.
horrible these are still on sale.
Caged eggs aren't a bargain at any price.
In the last few months arescarti, you've upvoted deals on Petrol, Hamburgers, KFC and chicken discounts - all bargains clearly involved in the sale of caged eggs & chickens. How on earth are you in here questioning the morality of an egg bargain post?
LOL.
This is AWESOME. Demand is obviously so low for caged eggs that Woolworths ends up with a whole stack of them unsold about to expire.
Now next time they'll order less, the farmers will make less, and so on :)
My local Woolworths often has a large stack of various types of near expiry premium eggs with dramatic price reductions in the Quick Sale section.
I have a choice, and my choice is not to purchase caged eggs. There is no need for me to bash or put down those who choose to eat caged eggs. If I think someone is receptive to listening, I will explain the conditions caged birds live in, and leave the choice to them. I have had caged eggs in my fridge that I have been given for whatever reason. Yes I ate them, not to would be a waste, but when I am able to choose I choose free range.
This is stupid, yes having caged eggs is wrong, but this deal should not be down voted just because you disagree on something else that is
totally irrelevant. It is a bargain, Because it is cheap, it is in stock and anyone can make that purchase, and that's why it is on Ozbaragin.
Posting your free thoughts I do agree but just not negging it to oblivion on op's thread is fair at all.
Bargains on morally questionable items such as pornography and gambling are explicitly prohibited on this site.
Why should products which support animal abuse be allowed on here either?
Bargains on morally questionable items such as pornography and gambling are explicitly prohibited on this site.
After reviewing the Deal Posting Guidelines it seems in my honest judgement that pornography and gambling products (amongst others) are banned here for legal concerns rather than moral ones.
Why should products which support animal abuse be allowed on here either?
Virtually every deal on this site would cause the suffering of animals; from an animal slaughtered for a product to a bug squashed by a delivery van.
Totally agree
I think sugar is harmful, and btw the harvesting of it causes damage to animals caught in the harvesters…. So now I can vote down all Softdrink deals.
I don't like caged eggs and I am sure my backyard chooks don't like the competition. But leave the deal alone and take ethics elsewhere.
Oh and BTW our ethical friends how about voting down all the other products that use Caged eggs like cakes from bakery, and so on.
In the last few months arescarti, you've upvoted deals on Petrol, Hamburgers, KFC and chicken discounts - all bargains clearly involved in the "moraly questionable" exploitation of animals and their habitats. How on earth are you in here questioning the morality of an egg bargain post?
LOL.
Well said +1000
The difference as I see it is that the horrendous suffering caused by caged eggs is entirely avoidable at trivial expense.
If I want to eat meat or drive a car, it's difficult to do so without petrol or killing animals. If I want to eat eggs, then the difference between horrible suffering and a modicum of decency is literally a couple of dollars per dozen.
That people in a wealthy country like Australia would knowingly chose the former, I find abhorrent.
entirely avoidable at trivial expense
a couple of dollars per dozen
A 67 % price increase is not trivial.
Free range is the only egg's people should be buying.
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Ali G would disagree.
Jumping on the no caged wagon too. After this week's disgusting revelation re the greyhound industry, it seems like a good time to voice against all unnecessary forms if cruelty.
Wow. Half of Oz Bargain has gone full retard in here. Just wow.
The same people in here negging this deal are the very same people with a long user history of up-voting every Coles & Woolies weekly sales & catalog bargain post - of which all include bargain caged egg sales, discounts on meat & all sorts of products that involve the very common sense fact that we eat & live off those under us in the food chain. Time to grow up & face reality people.
Free range doesn't mean healthy, sadly the standards you need to be labeled as free range are pretty piss poor.
I think the downvotes should be removed. This is going to set a precedent on a lot of bullshit.
Now you are going to get anti-cows involved as well with comments like that!! LOL
no.
downvotes are essential for a honest, open platform. ( regardless of which side of the cage you are on)
censorship is a bigger crime than any silly egg discussion.
shame on your anti-freedom ways.
Not sure if your joking or other people might take you seriously but this has nothing to do with censorship and this isn't an open platform if there are rules and guidelines. https://www.ozbargain.com.au/wiki/help:rules_guidelines
Downvoting is used for bad prices, shady deals/businesses and other stuff listed in the voting guideline. What is going to stop people from downvoting pretty much every mass produced electronic device, clothing, etc because they use "slave labour"?
But voting up KFC deals is ok. The same factories that produce Chicken also produce the egg!!!
Good one
Until the greedy profiteering stops on non caged eggs I will continue to buy caged eggs. Thats all
Charles Darwin said that the love for all living creatures is the most noble attribute of man. Everyone has heard of the dog suffering under vivisection who licked the hand of the operator; this man, unless he had a heart of stone, must have felt remorse to the last hour of his life.
Goes to show how wicked most people are, yep, they're 'just chooks'so let's just treat their short life like shit. Considering themselves greater than anything for the flawed concept our economy is derived on. To answer those 'utalitarianists' and 'economic nerds' in this thread. I'll use the 'father' of utilitarianism himself. Jeremy Bentham stated quite succinctly: "the question is not, Can they reason? nor, Can they talk? but, Can they suffer? Why should the law refuse its protection to any sensitive being? The time will come when humanity will extend its mantle over everything which breathes…"
I don't subscribe to any particular dogma, nor do I advocate certain diets… I'm just not happy with being dictated my needs and wants through public relations; and in turn demand more of everything and at cheaper price to the detriment of others.
Animal cruelty or not. That is a separate debate. All these negs are irrelevant to what is a good deal - price wise. All these negs really should be revoked as they are breaching the OZB rules.
Interesting article. Thanks for sharing.
It does, however, refer to British farming practises not Australian ones. The article specifically references "enriched cages" which are very different from the battery farming we have here. It also references the fact that battery farming has been illegal since 2012.
Food for thought though (pun intended).