A Local Resident Is Blocking Public Road Parking

Hi OzB enlighteners.

I noticed that a resident on public street is consistently blocking a public road parking space—either by placing objects or using their red cone to reserve the spot. Since this is a public road, I’m wondering if this is legal. Do local laws allow residents to claim public parking spaces in this way?

I went ahead and parked and got a notice from the resident on my windshield. He/she is advising me not to park there. What annoys me is that resident put red cones on both sides of the corner.

FYI this is close to the Metro station if that makes it any more legal.

I would appreciate any insights or advice.

Picture of cones
Notice from resident

Comments

  • +3

    You could post something like this in a public forum:

    ?

  • +57

    this is hilarious 😂 definitely not legal and you can report it to the local council or authorities. Otherwise just steal his cones and drive off.

    • -1

      Steal a stolen cone lol, fun fact: stolen cones costs Australian businesses $100M per year to replace.

      • +12

        fun fact: at least some of those 'stolen cones' (and other 'stolen' goods) aren't actually stolen and it's just used as an excuse to inflate business costs to reduce tax payments.

        • Oh yeah, pretty sure you need a tax invoice/receipt hence the word "replace"

      • They don't cost the business anything, they charge their clients and laugh all the way to the bank when the traffic controllers are rolling around in their $200k/year incomes.

    • +1

      They look like stolen cones.

    • +4

      Don’t steal the cones! Let them keep leaving them there and just ignore them. Free reserved parking.

  • +11

    If in front of their property, are the potentially getting something delivered or removed or trades? While annoying if that’s the case I’d understand if it happened a few times.
    But if just blocking all the time so they can park there or have people not park in front of their property they can ggf

  • +15

    Steal the cones

    • +18

      It's not stealing if they were just left on the road. OP would be removing a potentially dangerous object from a public road.

      • +3

        If you simply move it out of the way, like off the road, that's fine.

        But taking it with you would definitely be considered theft.

        • +14

          But taking it with you would definitely be considered theft.

          Just drop it off at your local police station as 'lost property'.

        • +3

          Nah, homeowner is not allowed to block off the road without a permit. So, it's illegally dumped so it can be collected.

      • Steal by find. Permanent asportation.

    • Mmmmm twice stolen cones.

  • +3

    How long has this been going on?

    • +15

      Have seen them for last 2 months now.

      • -4

        Why didn't you raise this with your local council 2 months ago?

  • +8

    Just move the cones off the road onto the nature strip.

    • +4

      or better yet move them onto their driveway, if they have one

        • +2

          Exactly! advising them to place cones on the driveway as a way to help the house owner to stop others from trespassing

        • +8

          That is not “trespass”. Trespass is the act of entering onto land where you have previously been told not to enter, or land that you are on and have been asked to leave and are refusing to leave.

          There is an implied right to enter someone’s land and approach their front door via the most direct route, providing you do not have to circumvent a barrier to do it (ie; jump a gate or cut a fence to get in)

          Removing traffic control devices that are illegally placed on a public road way by a home owner Another person would be will within their rights to either approach the house and ask “wtf??” or to return these obstructions back onto private property.

          So, no, jv, this would not and would never be classed as “trespass” based on there being no gate or fenced area a public citizen would need to circumvent to return private items to the relevant private property that were left on public land.

          • -8

            @pegaxs:

            you have previously been told not to enter

            That was in the note.

            • +4

              @jv:

              That was in the note.

              No, the request/instruction was "Kindly, do not park here…"
              There was no reference to the note writer's residential property.

              • -2

                @DashCam AKA Rolts: The other note.

                • @jv:

                  The other note.

                  ??
                  There is only one note mentioned in this post.

                  • -2

                    @DashCam AKA Rolts:

                    There is only one note mentioned in this post.

                    Yes, this is the other one, not mentioned in this post.

            • +2

              @jv:

              That was in the note.

              Wrong again, jv (as usual)

              A "private" citizen cannot trespass other people from "public" land.

              The note is NOT a trespass enforceable sign because;
              a: it is was placed on a vehicle parked in a "public" area, not on the note writer's private property.
              b: it does not refer to their "private" land as the place to "keep out" of.
              c: the note was a "request", not an "order", and as such, it can be ignored.

              The other note.
              Yes, this is the other one, not mentioned in this post.

              See, now you are just being a troll. Please produce evidence of this "other" note or evidence that OP was parking on the note writer's private property.

              Just commenting for the sake of shit posting and pumping your monthly comment count again, I see…

          • +1

            @pegaxs: Not only that, there may be a statutory requirement that your presence interfere with the "quiet enjoyment" of the titleholder. This could be as simple as not leaving when being asked, or having circumvented security measures, but simply walking into a space where no other relevant circumstances apply cannot be trespass

      • +1

        To the haters calling trespass, put the cones at the end of their driveway on the crossover just off the footpath. You can't trespass on the footpath. Leave a note "These were found illegally blocking a public road" or something along those lines.

  • +11

    You can't park within 10m of an intersection so the first few cones are invalid anyway. Resident sounds like a classic Karen.

    Is there off street parking for the resident or am I just blind?

    • +1

      You can't park within 10m of an intersection

      Yes you can… There is a sign there.

    • -3

      Ahh classic MS Paint, going all Karen, getting it all wrong. They can park there, see the sign that says they can.

      • +1

        Umm. I wonder who the Karen and getting it all wrong on this occasion is. There's is no way these two cones are within 10m of the intersection. Please point out the sign to me which suggests otherwise. I await your reply. FFS

        • -1

          are within 10m of the intersection.

          they don't need to be if there is a sign there.

          • +1

            @jv: Did you even look at the other picture? There is no sign.

            • -1

              @MS Paint: There is a sign on both photos.

              • @jv: Where is the sign in this photo? Am I blind?

                • -1

                  @MS Paint: You cropped it out of the original.

                  • +1

                    @jv: MS Paint is not that sophisticated. The no stopping sign in the first photo appears to be approximately 10m from the intersection. The sign is likely there because people don't know/ignore the rules and probably a main thoroughfare.

                    • @MS Paint: There is no sign there, I agree, but there is a "yellow line" that denotes no stopping in that area. At least that small "traffic cone" is in the "no stopping" zone in the second photo. So, 100% at least that cone is invalid.

                      (Side note; ALL of them are actually "invalid" being that private citizens cannot place out traffic control devices on a road unless they are licensed to do so and have submitted and been given approval by local council to place them out there…)

    • There is no street sign stating resident only.
      But after this property 2 hour limit is enforced since its closer to Metro.

  • +12

    close to metro station

    Thank them for reserving the spot for you every morning.

    • Yeah. let them save the spot for ya, that's handy

  • +1

    Show us a photo of the note

    • +6
      • How many cars do they have?

        • +1

          They have a seperate driveway and have not seem them parking anything in that spot overnight.

      • -2

        Reply back saying that is the ugliest sh!thole of a house I have ever seen. Fark that thing is hideous.

        Remind them that it's also very unchristian. The cross at the front door explains it all. FFS.

      • If I had a car that I didn't care about if it got keyed then sure I'll just park there anyway. Otherwise it's not worth the hassle to come back and potentially have my tyres slashed or something.

        • Even flat tyres on a car you don't care about wouldn't be worth the hassle.

  • +12

    Do you live on the street OP?

    To really russle the jimmies of that person, remove the cones and park a registered boat & trailer on 1 side and a registered trailer on the other side.

    Since both are registered they can be parked on the street indefinitely.

    • +7

      This is the solution. Achieves more than any kind of enforcement action by authorities.

    • +4

      Boat trailers parked on streets in Sutherland Shire for more than 28 days can be impounded from July 1
      The council defines “immediate vicinity” as the area of road between the property boundaries of the owner or user, and the trailer must be parked wholly within this area.

      https://www.theleader.com.au/story/4763550/new-boat-trailer-…

      • +6

        Finally some common sense from a council

        I wish my council did that, our street is covered in trailers, campers, boats and all other bullshit whilst all the owners driveways or front yards remain beautifully empty.

        • I'm fairly sure it's NSW wide, not sure about other states. If in NSW, I'd suggest writing into your council and councillors.

          • +1

            @Caped Baldy: My councils wording says:

            Abandoned Vehicles/Boats/Trailers
            New legislation regarding vehicles/boats/trailers parking came into effect in 2021. All vehicles (eg. cars, trailers and caravans) are treated equally under the new laws.

            To summarise, the new legislation puts the responsibility on owners and other responsible people for their vehicles/boats/trailers in public spaces.

            This means unattended vehicles/boats/trailers on public roads must not cause an obstruction or other safety issues for road users. If this is the case, Council enforcement officers can notify the owner to move the trailer within the following timeframes:

            Immediately if causing an obstruction or safety risk (officer’s discretion).
            Within 3 days if the trailer is unregistered.
            Within 3 days if the trailer is damaged and unable to be driven and has been left for more than 15 days.
            Within 15 days if left unattended for more than 28 days.
            If vehicles/boats/trailers are not moved within the requested timeframe, they can be impounded or a fine of $660 issued to the owner.

            Council does not deem vehicles/boats/trailers to be unattended if:

            The vehicle/boat/trailer is registered.
            The vehicle/boat/trailer is legally parked, under 7.5 metres in length and weighs less than 4.5 tonnes.
            The responsible person (registered owner) lives within close proximity of the vehicle (officer’s discretion).

            so basically, tough titties, you can park whatever you like on the street near your house if its registered, legally parked and you live within a close proximity of the vehicle

      • In my area unattached trailers aren't allow to be parked anywhere on a public road at all. Attached to a car you get 24 hours.

      • So every 28 days just park it in your driveway and your car on the road, then next day do the switch. Rinse and repeat.

    • Unfortunately not mate, I live next suburb and need to take metro every day for work.
      But this note everyday is very annoying 😑

      • +4

        I noticed that a resident on my street is consistently blocking a public road parking space

        im confused now.

        • There probably isn't even a street or a car or a parking spot. Probably just a troll post by some news.com.au 'reporter' gathering ideas/comments for a 'story'.

  • +2

    Just take the red cones home with you. You can say they appeared like they were thrown out for rubbish collection and you decide take them.

    • +1

      the cones were discarded on public property, you disposed of them thoughtfully in the garbage bin

      good work, trashing Australia is not on, don't be a tosser

  • +4

    Omg this is peak superwog dad trying to save his spot out front of his house.

  • +1
    • +1

      dont you just love ACA….."a business owner and new mother" - like thats relevant to the story other than to whip up someones emotions

      but yer that karen, wow, a $500 registered bombadore car is well deserving of being parked in front of that house

    • +1

      Not a smart move starting crap with random strangers who know where you live.

    • +8

      This is public road with shared parking. How is this considered a front of someones house ?

        • +2

          What about at the side.

    • +4

      Where should they park? In front of your neighbour's house?

    • +9

      Found the Karen.

      • +2

        I found the actual house..

        • +1

          stanhope gardens, no wonder.

    • +2

      Don't park in front of someone's house.

      The homeowner has no rights or entitlement to the parking space, in front of their property, on a public road.

    • +2

      where else is there to park on this street? from the picture it looks like every parking spot is in front of someone's house.

    • Confucius say man who posts stupid shit takes a big dump

    • I think we just found the person who left that note for you, @ausginnygin.

    • Don't post on Ozbargain. Confucius should know better.

    • lol top post, hilarious, have a +1

  • +6

    Should post this as a Click Bait deal as Free Cones near Metro station

    • +14

      It's a public street. If they need more parking, they need to buy a house that has more parking. Their problem is not OPs problem.

        • +4

          Irrelevant. Nothing gives a person the right to stop another from parking on a public road in a lawful parking spot, if they comply with any signage.
          A one-off request to allow parking for a delivery or tradie parking is not the same as demanding reserved parking adjacent to a home.

        • +1

          Nope, we don't need to know anything else. The road is fair game, the person that lives there doesn't control it.

        • +1

          Did you write the note?

    • +1

      It's a corner block so they get a couple extra spots in front of their house. They're being greedy.

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