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Cupra Born from $47,090 Drive Away @ Cupra

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Cupra Born from $47,090 Drive Away @ Cupra
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E5TOQUE on 05/01/2025 - 10:22 cupraofficial.com.au (10028 clicks)
Last edited 06/01/2025 - 23:07 by 2 other users

Cupra Australia seem to have cut prices on the Cupra Born EV hatch.

Was: From $59,990 before drive away costs (excluding on-road costs)
Today: From $47,090 Drive Away (including on-road costs)

Link to Order Page:

https://www.cupraofficial.com.au/stock?t_model=EXBQ

Please note Cupra does not have negotiable pricing, they follow the same setup as Tesla, BYD, Polestar, Xpeng, Mercedes, Genesis, Honda, etc with having fixed pricing.

Specs:

  • 511km WLTP range (with 17kWh/100km energy consumption, expect ~450km real world range)
  • Rear Wheel Drive
  • 170kW/310Nm
  • 0-100km/h = 7s
  • 0-50km/h = 2.8s
  • 385L Boot (Seats Up)
  • Based on VW Group's MEB platform.
  • 4324mm long, 1809mm wide, and 1540mm high
  • 2766mm wheelbase (space between the wheels which usual gives you an indication of interior space)

Charging Speed

AC: up to 11kW
DC: up to 170kW

Option Packs reduce the seating capacity down to 4

Interior Pack ($2900)
  • Blue Dinamica seats
  • Seat heating
  • Seat Power adjustment
  • Seat massage function
  • 9 speaker Beats audio system
  • heated windscreen washer jets
Performance Pack ($2600)
  • Adaptive dampers
  • 20-inch wheels
  • Michelin Pilot Sport tyres|
    Please note due to the larger wheels WLTP driving range is reduced to 475km (~410km real world range)
Optional Servicing Packs
  • 3 Year Pack = $990
  • 5 Year Pack = $1590

Servicing:

12 months or 15,000km

Warranty:

5 Years, Unlimited kilometers on the car
8 Years, 180,000km on the battery pack

Who is Cupra?

Cupra is owned by VW Group, they are a sporty spin off from SEAT. The brand is designed to sit in-between VW and Audi in the VW Group hierarchy.

Where is the Cupra Born made?

Germany.
It is made alongside the VW ID.3 in the Volkswagen Zwickau factory.

Minor Negatives that may impact some people

  • No 1 pedal driving like in Tesla's, Hyundai, Kia, MG, etc.
  • No spare tyre (or space saver), but it has a puncture repair kit.
  • No built in sat nav (you need to use Apple CarPlay or Android Auto)
  • No wireless Android Auto or Apple CarPlay. Wired only.
  • No sunroof option
  • Performance or Interior packs remove the middle rear seat.
  • Hard pack plastics on all doors. Rear doors don't even have soft elbow/arm support.
  • No rear air vents
  • No OTA connectivity (requires you to drop it off at dealers to get software updates, no remote app connectivity)
  • Touch buttons on the steering wheel
  • No front boot (Frunk)
  • RHD cars UK/Australia receive apparently don't have the windscreen wipers swapped over to the other side, so in heavy rain, water can be pushed into your line of sight

Australian Reviews

CarExpert:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayrZ7MFPq44

Chasing Cars:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOF5LLGV02U

Driving Enthusiast:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4fq2gjdMLw

The Right Car:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyGQUY1cBT0

Competitors

MG 4 77kWh

  • $55,000 drive away (+$8000 over the Cupra)
  • Made in China, instead of European made for the Cupra
  • Both are RWD
  • Both have 77kWh batteries
  • Both have similar real world range
  • Both don't have OTA connectivity
  • Similar performance
  • Very similar boot capacity
  • 10 year warranty instead of 5 year warranty on the Cupra
  • Much worse interior fit/finish compared to the Cupra
Automotive Car Cupra Electric Vehicle

Related Stores

cupraofficial.com.au
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Comments

  • easternculture on 05/01/2025 - 10:26
    +26

    VW Anhui to reportedly drop use of MEB architecture in favor of one built with Xpeng

    Volkswagen Anhui's first model based on the CEA architecture is expected to begin production in late 2025 and will go on sale in 2026, the report said.

    So expect these to sell for less than half price after mid year

      • 2esc on 06/01/2025 - 12:27
        +1

        Do boomers buy VW in Australia?

        I personally havent noticed.

        Going by google search though VW owners are definitely not boomers. Generally under 40 around the world and younger in places like the US where a typical Volkswagen car owner is a male (ages 25-34 predominantly).

  • Vorsprungdurchtech on 05/01/2025 - 10:31
    +72

    Competition ftw, great to see market forces working again, in the consumers favour.

    • 1st-Amendment on 05/01/2025 - 11:08
      +1

      Competition ftw, great to see market forces working again, in the consumers favour.

      It's such a simple idea, yet so many people seem unable to grasp it.

      • Telios on 05/01/2025 - 11:46
        +11

        Yeah hopefully we don't go the way of uber/delivery apps and VC pet projects that undercut to murder competition before effectively having a monopoly or duopoly to raise prices again.

      • Cheapskate Paul on 05/01/2025 - 11:58
        +10

        It works so much better when you've already destroyed your local car manufacturing industry.

        • CacheHunter on 05/01/2025 - 14:40
          +5

          when you've already destroyed your local car manufacturing industry.

          Australia's local car industry destroyed itself. High wages and strong unions meant it couldn't scale up to compete globally, over focus on large models and a lack of flexibility (by unions and lazy management) to respond to changing consumer preferences, couldn't generate the profits to justify investment in automation needed to improve efficiency, …

          • Cheapskate Paul on 05/01/2025 - 14:51
            +12

            @CacheHunter: Your recollection seems somewhat flawed. The Australian dollar peaked at A$1.10 for a short period. The workers agreed to a 10% pay cut. The car workers were never highly paid (of course, Gina would not agree with that as it was more than $2 per hour). Strong unions meant that the industry would always be a target for the Liberals.

            • Danstar on 05/01/2025 - 14:59
              +6

              @Cheapskate Paul: Not paid high? Lol

              I’m guessing you never knew anyone who worked in the car manufacturing business in Australia? Especially in Victoria.

              • Cheapskate Paul on 05/01/2025 - 15:04
                +3

                @Danstar: Car workers earned a living wage, not a high wage and not minimum wage. They had a reasonable standard of living, not high.

                • Danstar on 05/01/2025 - 17:08
                  +4

                  @Cheapskate Paul: They had a high wage considering it was an unskilled job.

                • BartholemewH on 05/01/2025 - 17:13
                  +8

                  @Cheapskate Paul: Production line base was 80,000 in 2013 according to google. With bonuses and overtime it was 100,000+. Seems excessive for semi skilled manual labour a decade ago.

            • 1st-Amendment on 06/01/2025 - 08:15
              -5

              @Cheapskate Paul:

              Strong unions meant that the industry…

              …would never be globally competitive, which it wasn't and hence failed entirely as expected. Go Unions!

          • arcticmonkey on 05/01/2025 - 15:23
            +2

            @CacheHunter: Lol. Seems to work well for Scandinavia and many countries around the world.

            • serpserpserp on 05/01/2025 - 17:48
              +2

              @arcticmonkey: Does it? German automakers about to go out of business in the next 3 years.

            • 1st-Amendment on 06/01/2025 - 08:17
              -3

              @arcticmonkey:

              Seems to work well for Scandinavia

              Does it? Saab went bankrupt, Volvo got sold off because they knew they couldn't compete, and who else is there? What a spectacular own goal…

            • CacheHunter on 06/01/2025 - 08:20
              -1

              @arcticmonkey: Really? Most have either been just assembling imported parts or full scale manufacturing in Asia or Eastern Europe for ages. Having a head office in Western Europe doesn't mean that a car brand is made in Western Europe.

          • rooster7777 on 06/01/2025 - 07:45
            +1

            @CacheHunter: So nothing to do with the size of the local market?

            • CacheHunter on 06/01/2025 - 08:04
              -1

              @rooster7777: Globally car makers don't rely on the local market, they export. So no, the size of the local market is irrelevant.
              Unfortunately the cars that we were building in Australia were not competitive in international markets due to our high cost of production and inflexible production lines that couldn't respond to changing market needs.

              • rooster7777 on 06/01/2025 - 08:27
                +1

                @CacheHunter: Bollocks. China is the biggest car maker, and also has the biggest local car market.
                Name one country that exports into australia that doesn't have a far bigger local market.

                Proton of malaysia is an interesting comparison to australian manufacture. With annual sales of around 150K cars, virtually all into the local market…. about the same as what the big 3 australians combined were selling near the end.
                Malaysia has significant protective tariffs supporting local car manufacturing… australia wound tariffs right back from the 1980s.

                High cost of production? Our labour costs were far higher than 3rd world countries…..because australia is not a 3rd world country.
                "Inflexible production lines that can't respond to changing market needs" …..what do you mean? Production lines that can't completely change their product by changing a 3D print file? Car manufacture involves heavy machinery, not 3D printers.

                • CacheHunter on 06/01/2025 - 08:45
                  -1

                  @rooster7777: You seem to put a lot of weight on Australian process shouldn't be as cheap as overseas because we aren't a third world country.
                  There's two problems with your logic.

                  1. Globally, car manufacturing is increasingly automated. Australian unions fought against technology that would have reduced the number of laboring and basic trades jobs and the bosses didn't stand up to them, so both are to blame.

                  2. The same logic applies to everything else we buy. I hope that you don't complain about cost of living. By your logic it's just because we're not a third world country and therefore governments shouldn't do anything about it.

                  • rooster7777 on 06/01/2025 - 09:18

                    @CacheHunter: You seem to not understand that huge swathes of australian manufacturing industry no longer exists…. nothing to do with automation.

                    Clothing- levis jeans etc footwear- clarks shoes and many others manchester- actil, onkaparinga and many others engineering - numerous enterprises across the country steel making, ship building, washing machines and dryers, fridges, televisions…. the list goes on and on.

                    You don't know any of this? Are you very young, or haven't been in australia long, or simply have a terrible memory?

                    Cost of living? Our COST of living has reduced significantly over time, because australia has REDUCED PROTECTION of australian industries, opening the market to a flood of cheap imports, but our STANDARD of living has risen.
                    Labour cost however has not reduced at the same time as local industry has evaporated.

                    I suggest you research international labour costs per hour…. labour in some asian countries is 10% of the cost in australia. Are you suggesting this isn't a significant factor in the cost of manufacture?

            • 1st-Amendment on 06/01/2025 - 08:34
              +1

              @rooster7777:

              So nothing to do with the size of the local market?

              Not since the early 1970's when the auto industry became globalised. Free markets are a game of compete or die, it's how progress happens, and Unions make it very hard to be globally competitive since your competition is not constrained by all the artificial rules you impose on yourself.

        • aarick on 06/01/2025 - 08:45

          "But it’s important to note that the unit cost of Australian-made models is four times that of Asia and twice that of Europe, according to Ford Australia’s comparisons with its international manufacturing costs."
          https://theconversation.com/factcheck-do-other-countries-sub….

          Good riddance! Now the government needs to remove the LCT and align ADR to other region!

          • rooster7777 on 06/01/2025 - 09:20

            @aarick: Market volume and labour cost….. you're starting to understand.
            "Good riddance to manufacturing and engineering" is an interesting outlook!
            LCT is fine…. maybe jack it up a bit.

      • Raynes on 05/01/2025 - 12:19
        +8

        yeah Aussies famously love monopolies (??)

        • tightm8 on 05/01/2025 - 16:22
          +15

          I grew up in dad’s falcon and uncles commodore. They were shit cars with regular mechanic visits, almost every 2-3 months.

          But ‘Straya made’ kept those monstrosities going at taxpayers expense for years.

          Good effing riddance to those cars.

          • serpserpserp on 05/01/2025 - 17:50

            @tightm8: Kept them going for decades

          • XxBargainHuntaxX on 05/01/2025 - 19:32
            +2

            @tightm8: Also can vouch for the unreliability of the falcon, I reckon that box of bolts left us stranded at home on school mornings at least one a month until the old man got a deal on a Camry with 412km (total) on the clock from a bloke who ran a Toyota dealership and got gifted one

            The Camry is now 13 years old and hasn’t broken down once. Good riddance to those horrid Australian cars

            • Franky23 on 06/01/2025 - 08:26

              @XxBargainHuntaxX: Yeh we had a 97 Fairmont that churned through head gaskets like underwear. People were so fanatical about Holden's and Ford's that it created this false impression of reliability. Both manufacturers occasionally hit the mark - the AU Falcon looked like dogs balls but still grace the streets of western Sydney and various country towns I've been through.

              • 1st-Amendment on 06/01/2025 - 08:39
                -1

                @Franky23: You:

                it created this false impression of reliability

                Also you:

                the AU Falcon looked like dogs balls but still grace the streets of western Sydney and various country towns I've been through.

                So they are reliable then otherwise how they they still driving around?

                I used to have a VN Commodore years and years ago with 380000km on the clock and it still ran well. The reason they run for years and years is because they were a simple old fashioned engine that didn't have lot so fancy bits that could break. Most backyard mechanics could do basic repairs and keep them going unlike any new car today.

                • Franky23 on 06/01/2025 - 11:35

                  @1st-Amendment: Also me - 'Both manufacturers occasionally hit the mark'

                  I provided context which you chose to edit out. Congrats on snagging a reliable model.

          • Jackson on 06/01/2025 - 00:55

            @tightm8: I went from an 82 Corona to an 83 Cordia, and then to a 92 Commo, and man that thing needed attention, despite being 1 owner. Low kms, and belonging to the wife of a mechanic who meticulously serviced it. I couldn't keep up in the end and the car went to shit

          • rooster7777 on 06/01/2025 - 07:47
            -1

            @tightm8: Your dad and uncle must have been shit car owners. Have you told them to go electric, so when they forget to check fluids every few months they don't crap something?

            • harro112 on 06/01/2025 - 08:31
              +1

              @rooster7777: 100% lol. No reasonably-maintained Commodore in the world needs that much work.

              • rooster7777 on 06/01/2025 - 08:42

                @harro112: To this day I just drive and forget my australian cars. I mean,it's true that at times they have had some unreasonable maintenance requirements…. who woulda thought it reasonable to have to change wheel bearings after a few hundred thousand Ks… and tyres too!

      • besttechadvisor on 05/01/2025 - 12:52
        +2

        Who would've thought it would be the communists that would undercut the markets

        • duchy on 05/01/2025 - 14:45
          +2

          I would. When you have planning commissions you can create a lot of weird distortion in the market. As we can see with the ghost cities in China.

          • besttechadvisor on 05/01/2025 - 15:10
            +1

            @duchy: Yeah, I'm just joking with 1st-Amendment over 'ere believing this is due to free markets

          • greatlamp on 05/01/2025 - 15:21
            -2

            @duchy: All the properties in the ghost cities were sold years ago, many filled.

            No different to the ghost suburb of Docklands VIC 3008, just spun differently

            • tightm8 on 05/01/2025 - 16:23
              +4

              @greatlamp: Exactly. In the West, billionaires become socialists asking for handouts when they screw up the economy and nobody calls it what it is, socialism. They just become capitalists when music is playing.

              • npnp on 06/01/2025 - 00:26

                @tightm8: You sum it up nicely. Best brief of billionaire attitude in the west. We are just being played…

              • 1st-Amendment on 06/01/2025 - 09:01

                @tightm8:

                and nobody calls it what it is

                Pretty sure a lot of people called out the Bush and Obama administrations for their corporate welfare scam when they both chose to bail out the banks in 2008/2009. This is one of the reasons Trump won in 2016.
                People who don't follow politics closely fall for the media narrative of Blue party good, Red party bad, but what is actually happening since the Tea Party and Occupy movements millions of people are pushing back against the 'Uni-party' corporate cronyism which is all these establishment politicians on both sides who go to bat for their corporate donors.
                Again it's why Trump is so popular, he has no political loyalty, no lobbyists he needs to pay back, no favours needing to be returned etc. Being a political outsider, mostly self-funded, he comes in with a clean sheet and the establishment lobby machine don't like that, hence them using all their power to try and discredit the one man who might be able to change things.

          • 1st-Amendment on 06/01/2025 - 09:07

            @duchy:

            As we can see with the ghost cities in China.

            When you're rapidly moving a market of a billion and a half people there will always be mismatches in supply and demand. Much better to have too many homes than not enough, as we are learning the hard way…

        • 1st-Amendment on 06/01/2025 - 08:46

          Who would've thought it would be the communists that would undercut the markets

          China moved on from pure Communism in the early 80's which made it one of the poorest nations on earth and killed tens of millions of its people and now has some sort of hybrid state-based crony-capitalism market-manipulation model which is why it can eat competition. Because it is effectively cheating by manipulating it's currency and suppressing local labour to undercut competition.

          Yeah, I'm just joking with 1st-Amendment over 'ere believing this is due to free markets

          Nowhere did I say that.

          • besttechadvisor on 06/01/2025 - 09:09

            @1st-Amendment:

            China moved on from pure Communism in the early 80's which made it one of the poorest nations on earth and killed tens of millions of its people and now has some sort of hybrid state-based crony-capitalism market-manipulation model which is why it can eat competition. Because it is effectively cheating by manipulating it's currency and suppressing local labour to undercut competition.

            In practice, China never achieved pure Communism because pure Communism is not technologically possible. They were only ever ideologically Communist and they can still make that claim. In practice, they just decentralised their own economy, and reintroduce limited private property, while competing in the international market more competitively. Essentially, very similar to Lenin's New Economic Policy and very few people would say Lenin wasn't a pure Communist.

            Nowhere did I say that.

            So what do you think if it's not free markets?

            • 1st-Amendment on 06/01/2025 - 09:24

              @besttechadvisor:

              China never achieved pure Communism

              Never said that either. There seems to be a gap in what I am writing to what you think I am saying…

              So what do you think if it's not free markets?

              Well if I go back and read the post I replied to which is all there in black and white, it was about competition nowhere is the term 'free market' used. Do you think these mean the same thing?
              To use an example, Lenin, Stalin, and Trotsky all had competitive ideas about Communism, but none of them existed in a free market since the buyer had no choice in any decision, nor were other competitors permitted to operate in the market of ideas, they were literally murdered.
              So competition can exist without a free market, Qantas and Virgin is another example - airspace is heavily regulated and controlled by the Australian Government. And both competition and free markets are good things for consumers, but they are not the same thing. HTH.

              • besttechadvisor on 06/01/2025 - 09:29
                +1

                @1st-Amendment:

                nowhere is the term 'free market' used

                "Free markets are a game of compete or die, it's how progress happens"

                • 1st-Amendment on 06/01/2025 - 09:46
                  -1

                  @besttechadvisor:

                  "Free markets are a game of compete or die, it's how progress happens"

                  Oh I see you decided to take a quote from different thread instead… was that confusion on your part or a weak attempt at deliberate deceit?

                  For the record, here's the conversation in case you are confused.

                  Vorsprungdurchtech: Competition ftw, great to see market forces working again, in the consumers favour.
                  Me: It's such a simple idea, yet so many people seem unable to grasp it.
                  You: Who would've thought it would be the communists that would undercut the markets
                  duchy: I would. When you have planning commissions you can create a lot of weird distortion in the market. As we can see with the ghost cities in China
                  You: Yeah, I'm just joking with 1st-Amendment over 'ere believing this is due to free markets
                  Me: Nowhere did I say that.
                  You: So what do you think if it's not free markets?
                  Me: Well if I go back and read the post I replied to which is all there in black and white… (Then I explain the differences between competition and a free market)

                  • besttechadvisor on 06/01/2025 - 11:36
                    +1

                    @1st-Amendment: It's not deceit, and it's not a different thread. It's the same thread, the conversation just formed.

                    You said you weren't talking about free markets because you didn't explicitly mention free markets in your first comment. So I went looking through your replies to that comment to see if you added that context in yourself, and you did.

                    You were talking about free markets, it's there for everyone to see.

                    You added that context yourself.

                    You can't have every conversation in a vacuum…

                    • 1st-Amendment on 06/01/2025 - 11:55
                      -1

                      @besttechadvisor:

                      It's not deceit, and it's not a different thread. It's the same thread..

                      You said "I'm just joking with 1st-Amendment over 'ere believing this is due to free markets" yesterday. https://www.ozbargain.com.au/comment/16130445/redir

                      At that time I had not used the words 'free market' in the conversation which I called you out for.

                      Then you quoted a comment from only 3 hours ago replying to a different thread to try and somehow conflate the two separate conversations in a lame attempt to try and cover you arse. https://www.ozbargain.com.au/comment/16131660/redir

                      You can't have every conversation in a vacuum…

                      You also can't cherry-pick words from other conversations made at different times then attempt to plant them out-of-context unless you are deceitful or ignorant. So which is it?

                      • besttechadvisor on 06/01/2025 - 12:58

                        @1st-Amendment:

                        At that time I had not used the words 'free market' in the conversation.

                        When you said it is irrelevant, you still said it

                        replying to a different thread

                        They're forks of the same thread, both replies follow on from your comment about competition.

                        I knew Mr. 1st Amendment would be on about free markets when mentioning competition, and sure enough you made a comment proving me right…

                        … a comment that was largely nonsense, btw. The global automotive market is far from a free market, and the size of a domestic market is extremely important to the success of most manufacturers.

                        That's why Toyota manufactures their pickups in North America to bypass the 25% Chicken Tax, for example.

                        Unless you think a 25% tariff on a class of foreign made vehicles is a "free market"?
                        🦅🇺🇸🦅🇺🇸🦅🇺🇸🦅

      • tightm8 on 05/01/2025 - 16:16
        +5

        We actually have idiots here that mock competition and are willing to pay close to $100k for ‘European’ or Yank vehicles which are also made in China or some other third world country.

        But I remind myself you can’t reason with folk like that. Car enthusiasts are one of the most nauseating people.

        • surg3on on 05/01/2025 - 20:02

          It's odd on ozBARGAIN

    • Brianqpr on 05/01/2025 - 12:40
      +3

      Colesworth next please.

      • chillybags on 05/01/2025 - 18:53

        Followed by qantas and virgin please

    • kaleidoscope on 05/01/2025 - 14:53

      consumer never wins 🤷‍♂️

  • Metre on 05/01/2025 - 10:34
    +42

    Always ask for the 5 year servicing be put in as complimentary, they will want to move stock.

    • TightAl on 05/01/2025 - 10:39
      +56

      Cupra won't be around in 5 years

      • mr_asstight on 05/01/2025 - 10:40
        -7

        Yeah these are horrible to drive

        • easternculture on 05/01/2025 - 10:41
          +5

          Its a VW, what did you expect

        • Korport on 05/01/2025 - 12:37
          +12

          Have you owned a cupra formentor?
          It is one of the best driver’s car at that price bracket. Way better than Toyota or Japanese brands.

          • Grannular on 05/01/2025 - 12:54
            +4

            @Korport: I have a formentor and it's bssn fantastic.

          • Tacosaurus Rex on 05/01/2025 - 12:55

            @Korport: Third that!!

          • drprox on 05/01/2025 - 12:56
            -4

            @Korport: Yes I'm sure it's far more fun than, for eg, a Civic type r or a GR Yaris. Unless you just mean EVs ;)

          • Shaquille Oatmeal on 05/01/2025 - 13:19
            -4

            @Korport: 🤣🤣🤣

          • dukeGR4 on 05/01/2025 - 14:29
            -4

            @Korport: I doubt it's nicer to drive than i30N and GR Corolla.

            GR86 and Miata are also around that price range, best drivers car under 100k imo if you dont need the backseats.

            • mongos on 05/01/2025 - 15:03
              +2

              @dukeGR4: The Formentor is a small SUV. For a better comparison, look at the Cupra Leon VZX.

              Many good reviews on the way it drives and quicker than all the cars you mention.

              • dukeGR4 on 05/01/2025 - 15:19
                -4

                @mongos:

                quicker than all the cars you mention.

                VZx does 0-100kmh in 5.7s, even the slowest car i listed (Miata) could manage that stock. GR Corolla could to century sprint in 4.99s according to CarExpert (but it's rated at 5.3s from factory).

                Plus, VZx does not have a chance on a track or hill climb. not in the twisties either. Just not made and engineered for it.

                Many good reviews on the way it drives

                Maybe for a non-enthusiast. But VAG cars are known to be bland to drive. Even BMW M2/M3 have really disconnected steering feel, what hope do rest of the German cars have lol.

                The Miata for example weights 500kg less.. and can really, really rotate at the limit. i30N is very keen in that department. Opposite steering lock on corner entry if you drive it hard enough.

                That said: I am not hating on the Vzx and its EA888 siblings. If i had the cash for a new daily, it will be one of them. I'm getting older now and would love some German refinement.

                • mongos on 05/01/2025 - 15:39

                  @dukeGR4: My mistake. Genuinely surprised they can take an R engine and turn it into a sluggish 5.7 seconds by removing AWD

                  Maybe the formentor is a better comparison. Sub 5 seconds and good fun in the bends around mount cootha on a test drive.

                  Personally I would rather drive a car that is fast than just feels fast eg GR86 and Miata

                • Tacosaurus Rex on 05/01/2025 - 16:04
                  +4

                  @dukeGR4: The Vzx is listed at 4.9s mate, and Carwow clocked it at 4.31 stock. CarExpert had it trounce the competition in a big race too. No idea what you’re reading but it’s completely inaccurate.

                  • dukeGR4 on 05/01/2025 - 18:15
                    -5

                    @Tacosaurus Rex: I think my figure's for the Vz rather than the VZx. That said, VZX is like 70k drive away, i'd rather have the FL5 Type R or a mint auto Mk5 Supra than this, or even a brand new Z manual.

            • Tacosaurus Rex on 05/01/2025 - 16:03
              -1

              @dukeGR4: Slow and cheap compared to the VZX.

          • jaygee on 06/01/2025 - 08:12

            @Korport: I have a formentor as well it's probably one of the best cars I've driven under $60k, and to be honest competed with my dads car which is around $85k(ish?). I've had ZERO problems in owning this car which has been a welcome surprise.

        • kfcsam on 05/01/2025 - 13:46

          I own one, amazing car!

      • Metre on 05/01/2025 - 10:41
        +3

        Well, best hope you and me will still be here wiz :)

        • TightAl on 05/01/2025 - 10:43
          +37

          514 cars sold in Nov23
          211 cars sold in Nov24

          They better be discounting harder if they serious

          • E5TOQUE on 05/01/2025 - 10:49
            +13

            @TightAl: I suspect their drop in sales this year is exactly why they have taken ~$20,000 off the asking price of the car.

            ~$66,000 drive away in 2023
            $47,000 drive away today

            Nearly a $20,000 saving.

            • giventofly on 05/01/2025 - 14:55
              +4

              @E5TOQUE: You’d be salty if you bought one for the RRP not even two years ago. Yikes.

          • Metre on 05/01/2025 - 11:08
            +6

            @TightAl: Oh i though you meant as whole.

            Cupra sold 1111 vehicles in 2022 and 3765 in 2023, while 2024 sales numbered 1612 to the end of September – a decline of 36.3 per cent.
            - via Car Expert

            They are not volume chasing for sure, niche brand with good design elements. Not a Tesla or Toyota.

            • E5TOQUE on 05/01/2025 - 12:02
              +1

              @Metre: New brand that launched at the peak of COVID pricing era.
              They need to adjust their prices down and sales will likely increase.

          • Telios on 05/01/2025 - 11:47

            @TightAl: And I think a good number of those sales are rental companies.

            I'd seen a few in the wild but the VAST majority were when I was hiring cars and there were 3-4 Cupras in there

            • FrontBottom on 05/01/2025 - 16:46
              +2

              @Telios: Yeh, Europcar always seems to have a bunch - Born, Leon, Atteca and Formentor.

              Killed 2 birds with 1 stone with hiring some when on holidays. Have now ended up buying an ex-Europcar Formentor (a stack of them hit the market a couple weeks ago. All 2023's, 20-40k kms ….)

              • BartholemewH on 05/01/2025 - 17:18

                @FrontBottom: Which auction house had the Formentors?

                • Telios on 05/01/2025 - 21:58
                  +1

                  @BartholemewH: I think you can just buy them direct from some of the rental sites.

                  I know in Tassie one of them advertised their Audis ex rental, might've actually been Europcar.

              • flatwhitepls on 07/01/2025 - 00:52

                @FrontBottom: What's the experience on buying an ex rental cupra? Are there an concerns?

      • montorola on 05/01/2025 - 11:41

        Savage.

  • U30004 on 05/01/2025 - 10:35
    +12

    Sub $30k soon

    • easternculture on 05/01/2025 - 10:41
      +3

      Ill buy for 20k

      • xmagic on 06/01/2025 - 02:07
        -1

        Still can’t figure out why nobody is importing tiny EVs into oz market yet. Sub 20k as you say, 180km range just enough for commute, charge overnight at home. I’m sure plenty of people would take a 2nd car as their first encounter with EV.

        Wuling mini EV is seriously my vibe

        • whitepuma on 06/01/2025 - 06:34
          +1

          Completely agree.

          I love the idea of these small fun zippy EV's.

          Much like other small cars on the market, Its not going to replace 100% of your travel, so why not take advantage of that weakness and sell cars that will be amazing daily commuters for the majority of your travels

          • xmagic on 06/01/2025 - 08:18

            @whitepuma: And because of their smaller batteries, it’s possible to charge over solar completely if a suitable home solar system is already in place. Basically means no more fuel/charging cost.

        • May4th on 06/01/2025 - 07:31

          safety I guess, Wuling would probably not get roadworthy ct let alone ANCAP rating. I want to see the BYD seagull here but knowing the australia tax it'll probably be closer to 30k than the sub-10k price domestically

          • rooster7777 on 06/01/2025 - 07:51

            @May4th: Australian tax? Are you talking about the 10% GST….. or are you talking about luxury car tax kicking in at….how much?

            • xmagic on 06/01/2025 - 08:14

              @rooster7777: EVs are at least 1/3 more expensive here than their domestic market. So does electronics. I think it’s an OzB term to call these price hikes “Australian tax”.

              • rooster7777 on 06/01/2025 - 08:29
                -1

                @xmagic: Nodsnods… cost of marketing, and profit margins are a completely different thing than tax. I'd say it's a term used by the uninformed to call it "australian tax".

                • May4th on 06/01/2025 - 08:34
                  +2

                  @rooster7777: just a loose colloquial term used to refer to cost differences in aus due to all the things you said, relax

          • xmagic on 06/01/2025 - 08:12
            +1

            @May4th: Earlier models, yes. The current models is comparable to all other competitors re safety. Will certainly be road worthy here if is imported.

            Seagull isn’t a competitor to mini EV as it’s almost double the price in China. So yes if Seagull comes to Australia, it will be around 30k.

            But IMO anything >20k kills the practicality of being a no-brainer EV as a 2nd car.

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