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[Pre Order] MAXSUN Arc B580 Milestone 12GB GPU & Bonus $20 Credit: $429 + Delivery ($0 to Metro/ SYD C&C) + Surcharge @ Mwave

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Includes $20 "M-Boost" store credit for a final price of $409
MAXSUN have picked up local distribution in Australia with Mwave, Scorptec and Umart/MSY now offering their products
This card is shorter than the Intel LE at 241mm so will fit smaller cases

MS-Arc B580 Milestone 12G

Boost: 2670-2850Mhz, 12GB GDDR6 (19000MHz), PCI-E 4.0 x8, 1x HDMI 2.1a, 3x DisplayPort 2.1, Dual Fans w/ Passthrough, 2 Slot, 241mm
190W TDP, 1x 8-Pin, 600W PSU minimum
3 Year/s Warranty

Free delivery available to Metro postcodes only
1% surcharge for all payments except BPAY

M-Boost T&C's
Offer valid from placed between 3:00pm 16/12/2024 to 11.59pm 05/01/2025
Offer is limited once per customer
The $20 Mwave Dollars will be awarded from 13/01/2025 and only if the order has been dispatched or picked up
The $20 Mwave Dollars will expire after 90 days from awarded date
The $20 Mwave Dollars is an addition to the regular mMVIP Mwave Dollars Program
You must purchase over $200 worth of items (excluding delivery, fees and service charges)
Promotion valid for both online orders and in-store purchases (exclude offline business orders, quote & bulk purchases)
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Comments

  • +10

    Wow. If I hadn't upgraded to a second hand 3070 late last year I'd be seriously considering this!

      • +115

        Because if he hadn't upgraded to the 3070, he wouldn't have a 3070…

        • -3

          Not clear. Would he or wouldn't he have the Intel GPU??

        • +10

          Hahaha I totally misread his msg. There you go

          • +2

            @barge-in hunter: Joke aside, depending on which game and res you’re running upgrading to a 12 gig card can make a big difference. I have a 3070 and some games at 4K refuse to load in high quality assets. It’s a real pain in the butt because otherwise the performance is there

            • @robinbanks: You're gaming at 4k with a 3070?

              • +1

                @MS Paint: Yep, sometimes. And if it had more than 8 gigs of ram it'd be no problem :)

      • +1

        My thoughts exactly. @shreav got his 3070, which is better, for $300.
        If he had neither of them now, the 3070 is still $129 better off and higher performance

    • +2

      how much you'd get a rtx 3070 for?

      and would gettin one around A$360 or A$350 be a good deal ?

      • +4

        I paid the guy $300 this time last year. I was lucky. It's running well.

        • +1

          Wow yeah $300 sounds good as heck!

          What brand n model is yours.

          I got a Asus KO RTX 3070 i belive it's non LHR according to gpu z as well for $345.96 off ebay ($5 coupon lol) back in November. (2024)

          But yeah $300 beats that by a good amount especially one yr ago!

          like ooft i paid $429 for a xfx rx 6600 xt that's been cursed and plagued w coil whine… did a rma to recieve another unit? refurbished? w coil whine again and did another rma and they said there was no coil whine despite there being such so just got it sent back lol.

          never buying xfx again

          as for the maxsun in this post one time i brought a pc off gumtree that came w maxsun mobo and maxsun 1050 ti.

          well i took the gpu out and put it in another pc amd it kept crashing and having visual errors so wouldn't put much trust into maxsun… and would rather get the other b580 cards

          • +1

            @AndrewMTG: Mine is nothing special, just enough to get me over the line. It's a Dell OEM version. One of the first blower cards I've ever had and it holds its own.

            • +1

              @shreav: Oh yeah heard those be decent the ones that come in them dell rebuilds

      • +5

        Considering 3070 beats B580 in every benchmark. A$350 and under is a good deal.

        • +7

          coughVramcough

          • +1

            @Franc-T: 192 bit bus width says what

            • +1

              @Jazza2400: I have a 3070 in my sim rig, considering upgrading just because of VRAM limitations of 8GB

              • @Franc-T: What screen you running?

                • @Jazza2400: 49" G9 (one of the older ones running at 3840 X 1080)

                  Its not a pressing need, but sell the older card before it loses much value

        • +1

          not true, spiderman remastered and last of us part 1 remastered 3070 loses to b580 at 1440p https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aV_xL88vcAQ&t=1226s

          I would assuming all new games in 2025 will require more than 8gb vram even at 1080p and a certainty at 1440p unless you are happy with micro stutters and texture pop ins :P

          In last of us part 1, the 3070 has 21fps1% lows vs 44fps 1% lows, that's more than 110% difference! 8gb already obsolete for 1440p new games

          • @neosin: Spiderman is a neglible diff in that vid. And no one is playing LOU at 40fps avg. You'll need to turn settings down to achieve a playable fps, one of those settings could be textures.
            3070 is gddr6x 256bit vs gddr6 192bit bus.
            If 3070s are going for $300, it's a 140$/43% mark up for a slight advantage in 1 game at those exact settings. Even the video you linked shows 3070 is clearly ahead in 12 game average by 14%. Not saying it's the 3070 is the best choice for everyone but if you know which games you like to play and 2nd hand is ok, 3070 or even 3060ti is a strong contender.

            "All new games in 2025 will require more than 8gb vram". Complete untrue and not sure why would assume this. I don't think I need to elaborate on that point.

            • +2

              @rainbowunicorn: Incorrect, last of us 1440p ultra b580 = 54fps average not the 40fps you said. So yes turning down some settings will achieve 60fps

              3070s are NOT going for $300 aud, I'm on OCAU everyday and they go for 350-400$, the only ones that go for $300 are heavily mined gpus with rust and oxidation. If you are trying to compare a mined/oxidated card (with 0 warranty and can die any day) to a new card (with 3-4yrs warranty) with then I'm not even going to bother arguing with you lol!

              Just because your mined card is still running doesn't mean it's a good bet, I can buy a 20 yr old car and drive it "just fine" doesn't mean 20 yr old cards in general will be fine lol!

              Yes you are correct, I should clarify I meant all new big title game releases even most 2024 big titles need more than 8gb ram for 1440p, unless you plan to play on a 10yr old 1080p monitor lol! It's obvious I didn't mean 2d platformers and low budget indie games that look worse than crysis 1 15 yrs ago!

              You should watch this video before you think 8gb will be enough for 2025 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dx4En-2PzOU&t=844s

              • -3

                @neosin: Oxidated! Comparing a mined gpu to a 20yo car! Ok guy, we're done here.
                I think you've just proven you don't understand this at all.

                Mined cards that have been maintained have proven time and time again their longevity is hardly affected.

      • +5

        I also got my 3070 for $300. This is the normal price that its going for on OCAU forum.

    • +1

      Same boat. Upgraded to a second hand 3070 too.

  • +21

    so with current fresh driver the performance seems to hang around a 4060ti but if history repeats and Intel massively improve their drivers over time this could be good time to get one

    • +19

      MAXSUN is the first AIB to state the 2850MHz overclock

      Because of the large die and relatively large node, the B580 is designed to overclock and some are already hitting 3000MHz

      After the dust settles with O/C profiles and drivers, the B580 will become a $400 4060 Ti 12GB

      • Yeah the 5nm libraries Intel are using seem to be fairly low density. I've heard they're about as dense as TSMC 7nm, which should translate to better OC headroom.

        I wonder how memory variants are in circulation as a good memory overclock could yield even greater performance. Custom GDDR6 timings could improve this even further, if possible.

    • +5

      The Alchemist line saw massive improvements because drivers were that bad at launch. While we will probably see improvements over time as the drivers continue to mature, I doubt we will see such a meteoric uplift as we did last time.

  • +5

    My A770 is still a dream otherwise I would be jumping on it.

    • +3

      picked up a second hand A770 16GB model for about $300 on facebook marketplace about 6 months ago

      well worth it!

    • I can agree as a A750 owner, I've had no issues. But I play mostly eSports titles, which are generally not problematic. I also bought about 6 months after the launch so most of the issues were worked out by the time I bought it.

    • Have you tried the latest upscaling? I'm tempted to go Intel from my 4060ti, they probably end up similar performance, but the vram could end up favouring Intel.
      I do love dlss though, so hopefully Intel caught up

  • +1

    Dang, I should have kept hodling.

  • Used market still holds better value

    • +4

      It always will…
      Eventually, these ones would hit the used market

  • +1

    searching for a used 3080-3090. i dont even really game just 3d printing work and cad. should i just grab this? my 1070 is tired of running an oled.

    • problem is sellers still holding tight on the price for those and gets in the region of 4070s which is around similar tier

      • Thats the problem. missed out on a few bargains recently but at the same time i dont really want to buy someone elses problem. if this will run my c4 42 properly i think ill just buy it.

      • Yeah I can't find a reason to upgrade from my 3080 that was 500 + 50 for the water block. I think I'd be looking at 1000 just to get similar performance from a 4070S.

    • Is it safe to get a used GPU? Any risk of the card being worn out from crypto mining?

      • +10

        In my experiences, im less worried about crypto mining and more about overclockers. Crypto mining tends to be undervolted and run consistently, new paste and quick dust off can renew mining cards.

        Overclockers who abuse card's voltages can have underlying issues or damaged vrm.

        • Most current cards have power limits built into the BIOS. So the way to OC a card today is to undervolt it…

        • +1

          It's near impossible to break most modern cards when overclocking within their firmware defined power limits. So many settings which were originally tweak-able are soft-locked or limited now.

          The one thing I would look out for is a how a particular card's memory layout is cooled. This is often overlooked and many run incredibly hot from factory, although they are usually still within spec.

      • I've been using used gpus for 15 years, my current is a 3060 ti that was clearly stated being repaired AND from crypto mining that i got for cheap $100, it's been rock solid 2 years so far, but obviously ymmv and i might just be lucky, but i take care of my components particularly if they are used, i.e new paste as soon as i got them, cleaned regularly and well ventilated case etc

      • +1

        I got a used 3070 off a friend that was used for mining. Minor rust on the IO end. I pulled it apart. Repasted the thermal paste and pads. Cleaned the fans a bit. Put it back together and runs really well. Runs a little hot at about 80 degrees. but 30 series cards are hotter than 40 series.

        But i guess it really depends on how long it was used for and what shape its in

        Got it last november

        • Just fix the fan curve and you can probably drop it to 60s or less. Fan just needs to run faster at set temps to do this and you will get a bit more life out of it.

  • +14

    good pricing, but I'll stick with my trusty 1080ti for now…. :P

    • +2

      1080ti is still the GOAT of old skool video cards.

      Steve from Gamers Nexus said so.

      Thanks Steve.

      • +3

        praise tech Jesus

      • +4

        Second best steve

    • +4

      Thanks for letting us know.

    • recently seen games, apps etc drop support for the 1080 sad to see

  • +10

    This card is great news. Hoping it forces AMD and NVIDIA to respond with a more competitive offering for their next-gen cards next month. Pricing is the only thing that can change for them this close to launch of course.

    Anyone building in Jan 2025 like myself has their fingers crossed I'm sure.

    • +9

      It is, but the only thing that will actually force change in the longer term is if people actually buy the intel offering… Intel offering competitive pricing so amd and NVIDIA hopefully drop prices won't work for more than 1 generation if people still just buy the NVIDIA/AMD offering anyway.

      • True. I'll be waiting to see all 3's offerings and deciding from there.

    • +1

      yep nvidia is taking the piss they have too much of a market share and rip off consumers, they will make a 5060 with only 8gb of vram

  • -1

    Bit of a gamble, 4060’s are at this price point with proven rtx and dlss.
    Competition is good though.

    • +9

      4060 is slower even with RT ultra.
      DLSS isn't that great at lower res, even though it's better than xess and fsr.

      4060 is also an 8gb card, which is just not good enough for anything other that esports titles.

      The only thing (and it's a massive thing) the 406p has going for it is stable drivers.

      • +3

        8gb which is just not good enough for anything other that esports titles

        That's a fairly extreme over exaggeration, unless you're wanting 144fps on everything

        • +7

          Lack of VRAM does not prevent super high FPS. But if you don't have enough VRAM you can get suttering, texture drop ins and other non-smooth issues. So depending on amount of VRAM you either have problems or you don't. So once you reach that limit the effects are pretty bad.
          Luckilly , or stupidly, games today have to have additional logic built into them to go into panic mode on these low VRAM cards and try to shuffle it around so that it causes minimum issues to the player. Some devs do a poor job at this. And they would not have to worry about it as much if NVidia stopped being greedy with VRAM.

        • VRAM and high fps are almost completely unrelated, unless you're in stuttering territory

        • Bro really said ' fairly extreme over exaggeration', like which one is it lol

        • Like GoodwillN1 said, VRAM doesn't have a direct linear effect on FPS.

          You can have 200fps avg smooth gameplay with 10gb VRAM, and 190fps avg, but with frequent drops to 30fps when you have 9GB VRAM.
          Or 200fps avg, but missing textures on some objects. Or very low res textures on some objects.

          RTX uses additional VRAM. DLLS uses additional VRAM.

          The fix is to set texture details to medium or low when you play some (soon to be most) games and have an 8GB card. In my opinion, better textures has pretty much the biggest impact on image quality in a game.

      • -3

        Tell me one game with system requirements that are 10GB or more?

      • 4060 is probably better for other stuff too, like media playback, plex serving etc

  • +1

    Now Maxsun just need to distribute their Teclast tablets here.

  • -7

    all I will say is go a AMD or Nvidia don't bother with Intel for graphics. unless you don't care about your experience :D

    • +4

      They are improving by the month, would agree with you maybe 6-12 months ago, now, if you are on a tight budget these actually aren't that bad of an idea, especially if you aren't playing obscure games that may have compatibility issues.

    • +1

      I went all AMD with my current build and I've never had as many issues with a GPU as I have with my 7900 XTX.
      I had more driver crashes in one day than I have had in my entire pc gaming life with all other GPUs combined.

      Seems to be so hit and miss.

  • +9

    580 the Name of Great value GPU's

    GTX580
    RX580
    B580

    Qualcomm or someone will release a GPU and it will just be called
    580

    • +3

      Don't know if I'd say the GTX 580 was a great value though.. Wouldn't that have gone to the 560 maybe even the 570 of the time? RX580 absolutely.

  • +3

    Cheap performance, 5060 will ship with 8g ram lol

    • i would almost consider that a joke/meme if it does

    • -2

      Not confirmed yet. But even if it does have 8GB it'll still be considerably faster than the B580.

    • Yep

      5090 32GB and 5080 16GB are confirmed

      Meaning 5070 12GB is 99% confirmed

      Meaning 5060 Ti 8GB and a delayed 5060 12GB - just like RTX 30 series - is 98% confirmed

      When it comes to shitty segmentation, NV takes the worst case scenario and makes it reality

      The 5060 Ti 16GB with crippled 128 bit memory bus might make a return for shits and giggles but NV will happily drop that market to the 8800 XT and B770 to sell more $4000 5090's

      Waiting for Luke @ Techfast to open up pre-orders for the pre-tariff $3.8K Galax 5090 special and sell out within 30 minutes

      • GB203-based 16GB 5070 Ti is expected, and there may be updates or launches with 3GB GDDR7 chips (eg. 18GB 5070, 12GB 5060) before the refreshes, as the manufacturing ramp for that new inbetween VRAM offering is only kicking off in January.

        16GB 5060 Ti may be just fine due to the minimum 55% increase in bandwidth compared to the 4060 Ti, will depend on if it's GB205 (allegedly 50 SM, but top SKU is the 5070) or GB206 (36 SM) based.

    • +1

      5060 will probably cost $600 at launch :(

  • +12

    It's a small thing but I don't think it's counts to say the final price is $409 — you're getting store credit not a discount

    • Unless we exchange store credit with other users, which can be used before you purchase an item. Though people could use this to scam.

  • +1

    can this do minecraft RT

    • yes but also like Microsoft has barely touched that.

      and by minecraft rt mojangs official thingy w nvidia it's the win10 vers(bedrock) not java edition.

      if you want proper rtx just get a shaderpack that uses raytracing and you'll be set.

  • +5

    No point rushing to buy this. Wait for RTX 5060 and then decide.

    • +6

      I wouldn't be buying any GPU with 8GB vram at this point.

      • +3

        Again, I would wait to see whether it will in fact be 8GB (not confirmed yet).

    • buy this to show nvidia 8gb vram is a joke

  • 4070 or this for 1440p gaming?

    Upgrading from gtx970

    • +4

      Can you get 4070 new for this price?

      • during Black Friday sales the 4070 dipped under $700

        • +5

          I mean, its a totally different price range my man.

          • +1

            @nikoris: Apropos of nothing, 4090 was under $2565 mid-'23.

    • +1

      4070 Super

  • +3

    Mwave is on the list of participating retailers for a free copy of Assassins Creed Shadows with Intel products, B580s from other retailers definitely include it

    https://softwareoffer.intel.com/Campaign/LearnMore/99beaf1a-…

    someone should check with them

  • -1

    Ok, what can I mine profitably with it…

  • -3

    RTX5090 is poised to only cost around 0.6 ETH / 0.02 BTC. I think it's a good to wait for the RTX 5090 especially if you have lots of cheap ETH and BTC collected over the years.

    • Stop trying to make fetch happen.

      No one talks about goods in terms of ETH or BTC.

      • -1

        Start buying ETH and BTC now, in a few years it will all 5x and you can save a lot of money.

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