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Must resist. The next generation of AMD iGPUs will see a significant improvement, so wait for the next generation of handheld Windows devices.
… and the generation after that will be even more powerful, so best wait for that one or maybe the next :)
I understand the benefits of waiting for improvements to the current crop. However, this is also what some politicians refer to as 'letting the perfect become the enemy of the good'.
My dilemma is that Steam is finally selling the Deck here, so now I don't know which one to get.
Wait. FOR FLIPPING REAL?!?!?!
FINALLY!!!!!
I'M BOUTTA PICK ONE UP SOON!!!
EDIT: Wow.. Still pretty expensive, especially compared to the Switch.
@FujinShu: It's more in line with what the rest of the world is paying, unlike the other handhelds. It's also cheaper than the grey imports & a lot more powerful than the Switch, which matters to a lot of users.
November is when you can order it. Not sure when it actually starts shipping.
@BinaryPirate: I know that, and I’ll probably buy it at some point, but this is absolutely going to be unaffordable for many Australians, even with Valve taking a loss on selling the handhelds.
Which is unfortunate, as I and many others think it’s a very good device for what it does (as well as being an x86-based computer for if you want to get some work done), but in this economy, people would rather get a Switch or just use their own phones instead.
except these devices are running several year old chips and next gen chips are literally around the corner. when they release they will be RRP, just like these current units. its not like we are comparing a 40% off device with a next gen RRP one
so your argument doesnt hold up
its literally worth waiting. In tech terms the gains will be significant vs being stifled and permanently capped for the life of the device
@furythree: @furythree: Next-gen chips are literally always around the corner.
Every widget gets a relatively short post-release period in which its performance is not under threat from the next generation.
By the time next-gen widgets are available, the only thing the people who waited have achieved is a year or more of not having whatever widget they're waiting for the next-gen of.
@BinaryPirate: the 7840u and z1 extreme chip based handhelds have been out for over 2years now
and we already know the next versions are coming out next year
so there is absolutely a point in waiting for the next gen in this particular instance. Particularly since this is still technically a first gen product, v1.5 at best and the performance gains are going to be significant
your generic statements about tech advancements are true but dont apply here in this particular instance
we arent talking about "widgets" we are specifically talking about 2+ year old 780m RDNA gpu handhelds being sold at RRP being a bad deal cause they will be imminently superceded
your general advice is bad advice in this case
the "achievement" people get for waiting is literally measurable gains in performance and efficiency FOR THE SAME PRICE
if these z1 allys are being sold at 40% off thats a different story
if you want to compare with second hand models being sold for $400-600 thats a different story. thats still worth getting over waiting
@furythree: I used widgets because it doesn't matter what the device is, the development & release cycles for new tech are all broadly the same. Since there aren't even any rumoured release dates for next-gen handhelds, unless other companies join the fray, late 2025 to 2026 is the earliest any will arrive.
It's a simple equation: buy now & offset the upgrade cost in a year or so by selling/trading up, or don't have a handheld at all for another 12-18mths.
btw, this is ozbargain. Paying RRP IS basically heresy and never considered, much less talked about.
@BinaryPirate: as i said, i get what you were saying with the generic advice using a generic tech product example by way of widget
but for this specific scenario, its better off waiting
@furythree: For sure, waiting is the best option if you don't want to game on a handheld for the next year at least.
Assuming you don't want to pay the RRP, best add 3 months until the first sale.
otoh, you could pick up the current-gen on sale, happily game for 12-18 months then offset the RRP on the next-gen by selling/trading up.
Unless, of course, the next-gen doesn't live up to its hype and negates the benefit of upgrading, or the early models ship with a fatal flaw like cooking SD cards.
@BinaryPirate: u can grab these regularly on sale or even insanely cheaper second hand
the key is ensuring 780m gpu
@furythree: So your point is to definitely wait for the next-gen because they'll be faster but also you can buy one if the price is good?
Thanks for that.
@BinaryPirate: thanks for telling us your reading comprehension is of a 1st grade level because you ignored the original reply where i said for this particular product the new chipset is imminent as opposed to be a few years away that your generic "widget" example entails
this is akin to buying a rrp iphone at the end of august, when a new iphone model comes out in september. then giving shit advice that theres no point waiting because "theres aLwAys gOing tO be a new OnE aroUnd thE cOrner"
@furythree: Champion projection on your part there, Buttercup. I'll let you see if you can figure out why. If when you get stuck maybe check in with your English teacher after big lunch.
@furythree: Given you're literally the one person in the entire global tech space who believes the next-gen handhelds are coming ".. in a couple of months", I look forwards to you showing off your shiny new Asus ROG Ally X-2 a full year before anyone else 🤣🤣
@BinaryPirate: mate its 2 months till the end of the year
a couple of months literally means 2025
to elaborate since ur missing the point
the 7840 and 780m equivalent amd socs were released in jan 2023
thats almost 2 years by the end of this year
new 9000 series desktop chips are in market
mobile chips have been ANNOUNCED
oem partners are already leaking next gen handhelds
from a timeline perspective your 90% towards the end of the 780m chipset lifecycle before it gets superceded.
i would agree with ur points if were were in jan 2024 right now. worth using the handheld for over a year before they get superceded
but no point dropping 1800$ for one now
especially since this z1 extreme is not significantly outperforming the non extreme
and if u wanted a deal, there are loads of second hand units available for 600-800 bucks that are barely used for sale. lots of enthusiasts fomo into this cool tech only to find they barely have time to use them. so their loss is your gain
including second hand devices in the computing world is absolutely a valid inclusion given its not like it magically becomes tainted the moment its taken out of a box. its not an apple being bitten out of
@furythree: lol. Being an (profanity) didn't work for you so you're back to try dazzling me with your sparkling intellect.
Find me a working 2nd hand Ally X for $800. I'll give you a $100 finders fee.
Given it's only been available for a couple of months and the non-X version sells for for what you're trying to make people believe they can get an X for, I'll file that delightful diatribe of yours under 'Children Whose Dads Work At Microsoft'.
p.s Since you are evidently having trouble following the conversation, we were talking about waiting or buying a $1,300 ROG Ally X… so not $1,800 or whatever fanciful things about "OEM partners" you need to tell yourself so you can pretend you didn't get this whole thing completely wrong from the start.
You want to resist - just look up how ASUS deals with warranties and if they have fixed the sdcard issues
You are talking about the old Ally. The Ally X is best on the market now
@serpserpserp: Oh, yeah soz Ally X doenst have the SD card issues, but ASUS warranties arent still to be trusted.
@Franc-T: This is Australia, not the US. We have consumer laws and protections, and they are required to follow those laws and give those protections to sell their products here.
@Franc-T: he doesnt need luck
he has the ACCC ACL
you dont need to announce your exit and tell us everything youre not going to buy
@furythree: Im not buying one, just stating that its a good idea to look how ASUS deals with warranties. Regardless of consumer rights, Id not want to have to batle with a company to get rights honored, companies screw people around all the time.
@Franc-T: you mean the gamersnexus shenanigans for americans and other global customers from countries without consumer protection?
nah im good
wow 24gb of ram for this thing?
Combined graphics and system memory but yes
3x that of a standard MacBook
Game Nexus entered to the chat
So it begins…
Got more RAM and bigger SSD than my laptop.
It's got less RAM and smaller SSD then my laptop.
You have an Apple? 😂
Is this more powerful than Steam Deck OLED?
way more powerful
also it runs windows 11 I think not Linux
you can install Bazzite on it, which is a linux based image very similar to SteamOS, pretty much a clone, if you want the smoother SteamOS experience on your Ally. But, Steam is apparently working on making SteamOS available for other handhelds like the Ally so lot's of exciting things coming.
I wonder if we can price match at jbhifi and then take advantage the of the $30 off perks
or even better… try price beating with office works for extra 5%
Apparently they don't price match on promos that require a coupon code, thats what JB HI FI online chat said. Assume the same is for Officeworks as per their restrictions on the price beat page.
Trying ringing Officeworks pricebeat team,
they are usually pretty good.
Better than instore anyway .
FWIW Officeworks phone support said the same thing
It looks like this has an extra 2-3hrs of battery life when gaming
1080p on 27in screen vs handheld display are different stories. Of course desktop has more benchmarks
Much better than Steam Deck OLED and far more powerful.
It is currently the champion of handheld gaming
Kinda. It's more powerful but the screen is worse and handheld windows is a pain to use.
Also Asus's warranty procedures leave a lot to be desired…
Totally agree on this. Having been using the SD OLED for a year now and the experience is better. You can treat it like an appliance than a portable computer. Turn off the device mid game to do other tasks and coming back to the game when you turn it on again… such a game changer.
Games run really well on it too. I look forward to the next gen SD.
On windows, there is a free program called Nynra, it allows you to pause any program (incl. games) midway. you press the pause key to pause the program, press it again to unpause the program. Can only pause one game/program at a time. Its very simple to use. I love it, it has changed my gaming experience.
its almost like a boss key, you press it to do some work, press it again to jump right back into the middle of a game.
Highly recommend it.
Edit: You can change the hotkey to anything you want. Or use the mouse to pause and unpause it. This would totally work on the ally rog
@Geoff-bargain: as in it suspends the entire thing into ram, 0% cpu and gpu interactivity? or does it do something else?
cos i did not know that
Doesn't nintendo switch allow the game to be paused and back again? Just curious how is it different to steam deck that it is game changer? Thanks.
@OhNoUShiz: In the original discussion (see above parent comment thread), we were comparing against a Windows portable gaming device. Sure the Nintendo Switch also support this but then they generally different types of games so its not really an equal comparison.
People really seem to think SteamOS is a negative, when it's absolutely the best thing for handhelds that's ever occurred.
Windows is always going to be overly resource hungry, crash ridden, and trash.
I can't even keep my work laptop up for a week without something crashing, and the majority of things are SaaS or VM based.
Install bazzite on this and you can use SteamOS kinda
The problem lies in game compatability and availability. Many games just won't run on linux natively :(
I dual boot my desktop, and its the only reason windows is still there - the gaming. Its not about drivers anymore (linux video drivers are decent now) its about not all games are made for linux.
@Minimalism: It's not that games aren't made for Linux very few games are Linux native, it's that proton can't run them properly yet. Most of the games that don't run on Linux however are due to anti cheat software that only works with windows.
@Minimalism: Steamdeck now runs Windows…. So not sure any Ozbargainer tried that and can report back
You forgot the fact that Ally is a like a Windows laptop. You can install anything Windows can. Steamdeck unless you have an extensive library for game you already purchased you are buying into their ecosystem
However having said that Steam Deck can also run Windows. Not sure how good it is or if you can dual boot.
Windows is very clunky on Ally but does not mean it runs better on Steamdeck
I agree Steamdeck has better user experience
It isnt much better, its more different than better/worse. The Ally is certainly not the champion of handheld gaming, as there isnt one.
Steam deck is cheaper, far more repairable, much better warranty and much much more console like experience.
The Ally is more capable, but you are paying for it and its less user friendly. I wont touch one due to warranty myself, thats the dealbreaker fo rme.
Theres also the switch and different offerings but there is no one king of handhelds, it all depends on your use case.
Power really isn't everything, it's about the entire user experience and from what I've read most people prefer the Steam Deck for the overall experience.
It's basically a better Switch.
You can hibernate and resume games (mostly without crashing), you click and it just goes.
One of the biggest reasons the switch succeeded was it just WORKS.
The only reason I'm moving away from my switch is the game library and battery.
It seems to discharge itself after a week or two so I can't just pick things up and play.
Yeah, true (even moreso since Red Dead Redemption 1 is coming out on PC soon).
One of the biggest reasons the switch succeeded was it just WORKS.
It's pretty easy to get games running on the Steam Deck but sometimes Linux can be intimidating for people (although the version running on the Deck is pretty much like using windows). Emulators take a bit of effort but are pretty damn awesome on the Deck too.
Is this still more expensive than SteamDeck with lower frame rates and compatibility, especially so when unplugged
Should be better if it runs SteamOS or similar right?
All of youtube says to get OLED deck over this
Pros and cons to each, I know the internet loves comparing them but I do think they are different beasts. Raw performance wise it does out perform the steam deck, but I honestly just don’t see myself playing AAA games on a handheld anyway, seeing as I’m going to be sacrificing quality settings/settling for a borderline acceptable frame rate. I love the OLED screen on my steam deck, and use it to play indie games natively - if I do want to play a bigger title, I use something called Moonlight and stream it from my somewhat aging desktop PC. The great thing is that it can often hit 90fps for the 90hz screen because I only need to render at 800p resolution. Also, I love the trackpads on the deck and I wouldn’t be able to settle for using a mouse via the thumb sticks.
Also I know it’s tiring to hear this, but the next generation of APUs are coming out soon and there will likely be a new lineup taking advantage of them, so if you really want raw performance (which is why you’d consider the Asus IMO) you could consider waiting for the next model.
We're at least a year away from the next-gen models, probably more because the yanks like to release in their summer market.
That's also something to consider if one is already considering waiting.
How does this compare to Legion Go? I'm a bit worried that the limited input options on the ally might be a bit restrictive beyond the basic gaming use.
Once you've used the Legion Go, competitors' screens look tiny. I can't imagine anything other than gaming on a screen smaller than the LeGo's being very enjoyable.
Detachable controllers transform it into a tablet with two USB-C ports too.
Yep, I was genuinely rooting for the Steam Deck and Ally X until I picked up the Legion Go. Screen is miles ahead. People don’t often think about the hud elements and text in games. Bigger screen is better. Legion Go is also far more versatile.
I was worried the size would be cumbersome. No issues?
Owned the Ally and Legion Go. Legion Go wins hand down when it comes to screen size. However, it falls short in terms of software and just the overall feel of the device. Legion Space, even with the updated version, is bloated and slow. It just feels less polished than the Ally X and Steam Deck OLED. This, however, makes sense since Legion Go has not yet received any revision.
Check out this Youtuber who recently did a comparison between the three devices.
I found without the VRR screen the legion go just couldn’t hack any type of AAA. Plus the battery was woeful.
But it’s a beast for indies and flexibility.
No sure about comparison. However I have the LeGo and it is fantastic! I love the size of the screen and it has a higher res. You have to turn the res down on some AAA titles due to the FPS drops. However, to compensate, I have a Core X Chroma + RTX2080S lying around and it utilises the USB4 bandwith (displayed back to the LeGo unit) with the eGPU to pick up the higher framerates and stabilise at the full res. Considering I have purchased the Core X for $150 second hand and had the RTX lying around, it was a no brainer. I have future proofed the unit rather than go through upgrade-itis at every iteration.
Would love this if it had the same touch pads as a steam deck! Loving my steam deck though but I'm so happy there are competitors in the game. It's only going to get better and better
this or RG40XXV ?
This or Miyoo Mini Plus?
Moomoo Cow Ultra?
I guess it depends whether you want retro games or modern games running at a terrible resolution for 17 minutes before the battery dies…
Been contemplating getting this for a while before flying and now I'm travelling Tuesday evening :(
What are the chances if I order it now I'll get it delivered by Tuesday morning?
Being Friday arv I'd say peanuts
Well it depends if you're a gambling man
Are you?
Nah, I'll see if JB can price match…. If not. then I'll wait for Ally 2
try price matching at office work since their delivery is faster
Tried both, JB and officeworks but they're not accepting coupon code. Checking asus website it seems their distributor is wireless1 so the last thing i can try is visit their shop in person and see if they can match the offer
Buy one from JB and one from Asus.
Claim the JB unit on the way out and then upon retuning, return the unopened Asus unit back to JB.
Serial number wont match
Buy both and don't open either until returning the JB one.
@Porker: Haha defeats the purpose for me though, i wanted to play games in my 10hr flight. And claim TRS
rush typing this with one hand.
What's your other hand doing, or should I not ask?
Im glad I wasnt the first to think this.
https://www.asus.com/au/deals/gaming-promotion/