The ESV Church Bible is an affordable, practical choice for churches to use as part of their weekly worship services or outreach, featuring all-new typesetting, a durable cover, woodfree paper, and a sewn binding.
Whether you're a believer, a collector, or just need something heavy to keep the door open.
CamelCamelCamel.
You can also get free toilet paper from public bathrooms.
Yeah but idk if I'd call what they put there toilet paper, always the lowest quality thing they could find
Yep, around the same quality as the bibles given away at churches.
A lot of people would burst into flames if they ever went to a church. :)
@HolyCr4p
U call son
I thought you might be interested!
Nah…… if it is free, maybe
Just google free bibles, multiple organisations giving them out
Elder Scrolls V bible
I'd sooner read that.
And I'm one of the six people who've never played Skyrim.
Five. I finally gave in and started playing it last weekend. Although I only got a few hours in and remembered I'm a 40 year old with responsibilities and shit.
Anyway, I'm a big fan of the ESV bible, thanks to the controversy over Genesis 3:16. Not because I agree with one or the other version (or any version), but because it's controversy over that women should be subjugated and enjoy it, or don't enjoy it but need to suck it up anyway.
Dunno how any woman reads the bible and goes "yup, I'm second class, this is definitely for me".
It's written by men for men about man issues - mostly property (land, cattle, wives, slaves, etc.) and male dignity. NT takes a bit of a turn thanks to the Greeks rubbing off on them.
not to mention the slaves! Who'd want to be the slave of religious men! If religious folks need/use the bible to look for assistance with decision making in modern life, I think there'd be an absolute dearth of volunteers to be slaves. And if you can write off the slave and other distasteful parts of it, doesn't the remaining pearls of wisdom lack credibility?
You can't say…. this bit was written to be compatible with local barbaric practices at the time…. then promote and defend some other bit as being guidance from the "lord".
I mean, amongst all the eye for an eye and stoning and stuff, there might be some good moral pointers for modern man…. but just because Mago the local bikie down the pub tells you to always be good to your pet dog and never kick it, you won't (I hope) automatically agree to back the pack regardless of morality because Mago tells you to. That might be the requirement to pass the prospect apprenticeship, but there wouldn't be many "christian" values involved.
Is this tax deductible?
Buy now, repent later
Amen. Ordered @9.63 amazonus
Is it true about Moses, parting of the seas and the Beyblade?
Then this is a deal ?
did those camels each carry a wise man?
Certainly did - and passed through the eye of a needle while doing so…..
Not sure this item is complete.
Does it contain the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, and the Pledge of Allegiance?
Cheap rolling papers
Not cheap
Who pay for bible?
People who worship God
Thai Honey is the only one I read.
God these comments are pure sin
Bloody oath! There should be claps of thunder and forks of lightning, followed by no more begatting.
Ever.
When using an abbreviation, it's good practice to spell it out fully first, before using the abbreviation throughout your text.
Most people (including myself) will have no idea what ESV stands for.
Technically it's an acronym, not an abbreviation.
ESV means Experimental Safety Vehicle.
Technically it's an initialism, not an acronym.
I was today years old when I learnt this. Cheers
Eh? If it were an acronym then it could be pronounced as a word. How do you pronounce ESV?
New to me (thanks to etymonline.com) but apparently "acronym" dates only from around 1943 and the practice of forming words from initials was very uncommon before the twentieth century.
ESV is an acronym, actually.
I assumed it was the bible version released with the old very limited Holden ESV Eliminator
The English Standard Version (ESV) is an essentially literal translation of the Bible in contemporary English. Created by a team of more than 100 leading evangelical scholars and pastors, the ESV Bible emphasizes word-for-word accuracy, literary excellence, and depth of meaning. Suited for personal reading, public worship, in-depth study, and Scripture memorization, the ESV is available in more than 200 print editions on Crossway and free digitally via mobile apps or online through ESV. Since its publication in 2001, the ESV Bible has gained wide acceptance and is used by church leaders, numerous denominations and organizations, and millions of individuals around the world.
The longhand is written on the front cover..
not Holy enough.
Prob the only quality deal amazon prime day will have this year
Serious question, should I just watch the movie or is the book better?
They are both as bad as each other. The only pieces of bible media ever made that are worth watching is Prince of Egypt and Jesus Christ Superstar.
My favourite movie adaptation is 'Year One'
@AustriaBargain, have you read the Bible for yourself? If not, I’d encourage you to do so for your own benefit and beliefs
Yes I have, I went to religious school.
didn't mel gibson do one?
This is one where the movie adaptions are better. My personal recommendations are the Mel Gibson version or Fist of Jesus.
The Last Temptation of Christ has the better soundtrack though.
Bible is better
Nice deal.
Is this new and old testament?
Yes sir. Would honestly recommend the Bible app. It’s free. Has all the versions. I own multiple bibles never read them but we always on our phone can’t go wrong there. Plus study plans, devotionals, etc
The Old Testament is the only part worth reading. The rest is just made up.
How did you come to that conclusion?
It's what my religion taught me.
@Mr Bob Dobalina: I thought so, but didn’t want to presume. How did you determine that the NT is made up?
@Mr Bob Dobalina: As in, Judaism taught you that the NT is made up? I’d be concerned if that is the case, as it implies you have not independently investigated the claims / historicity / reliability of the NT for yourself and then come to the conclusion it’s made up, rather than simply be told it is by your religious leader(s)
@Mr Bob Dobalina: As a Jew you should not be scared to delve into the New Testament. It really is incredible how clearly it is made up, with the Hebrew Scriptures used as a resource for eisegesis. You will be amazed at the ahem liberties the author of Matthew takes in his "translation" of your Bible. The Apostle Paul is one of the best villains ever. There's loads of fun to be had, give er a read!
@defecat0r: @defecat0r, can you please elaborate? I’m genuinely curious about your claims, particularly around Matthew and Paul. Cheers
@SirFrankGrimes: Sure thing, no worries, I'll try to give a brief summary of my take on things. I'll start with the author of the Gospel of Matthew, lets call him "Matthew" to keep things simple. As you may be aware, one of Matthew's goals when writing his gospel was to show that Jesus fulfilled prophecy. There are a number of prophecies that speak about what Jewish "messiah" figure will do, or what the world will be like when he comes, however due to the fact that Jesus didn't fulfill any of those prophecies, Matthew seeks to identify other passages that he can present as prophecy that Jesus fulfilled. I would argue that when we look at Matthew's 11 famous "fulfilment citations", we see all the hallmarks of eisegesis (imparting one's own views into a text, as opposed to exegesis - using various layers of context to draw out the true meaning of the text). Without going into the details, I believe that early Christians were forced to embrace eisegesis as their primary hermeneutic to make the events that unfolded around them fit with the Hebrew Scriptures that they were so sure must speak of the man they were convinced must be the messiah.
Of Matthew's 11 fulfilment citations, most if not all of them are clear quote mining and require the context to be actively ignored to reach the conclusion he intends. The best example of this is to be found on the first page of the New Testament, Matthew 1:23. Here, not only does the passage Matthew selects (Isaiah 7:14) not make any sense when read in context if Jesus is the subject, but Matthew doctors the text to support his case. What we find in the Greek is simply not reflected in the original Hebrew. This verse is simply scandalous.
Now onto Paul. Paul is the most influential person to have ever lived, and I find him to be a fascinating individual. When I was a (professing) Christian, I was in awe at how humble and honest Paul was, how fortunate we were to have his teachings. But now … when I read the New Testament I believe I see him for what he really is.
I think that we have all met people that seem fantastic: so intelligent, so charismatic, so humble, so capable, yet when we get to know them better we see that quite the opposite is true. These people are narcissists, master manipulators that know what to say to bend others to their will, at least in the short term. This is how I see Paul now. This is why he is constantly travelling, fighting with other apostles, humble-bragging but then talking himself up - the "least of all apostles" yet at the same time what he received he received from no man, no, Paul had personal revelations from Jesus himself!
Don't get me wrong, I believe that Paul believed everything he spun. This is the character of the narcissist - while it can be hard to understand, they believe their own nonsense.
Why do I see Paul as a villain? Where to start? Here are a couple of examples.
Paul loves cash. 2 Corinthians 9 contains an example of the kind of manipulative behaviour that Kenneth Copeland would be proud of - he guilt-trips the Church to make sure they give. In 1 Corinthians 9, we see how little respect Paul has for the word of God, plucking the most random passage completely out of context to justify his grift. See 1 Cor 9:6-12, it's fantastic.
Paul frequently insists that he is not in it for the money, which is an indication that this IS a criticism he was receiving at the time. "thou dost protesteth too much, methinks".
This takes me to my next point. The Hebrew Scriptures is to Paul what a Women's Day magazine is to a kidnapper writing a ransom note. Paul cuts and pastes and chops and snips the Scriptures to make it fit his own narratives. While there are examples of Paul doctoring his "quotations" of Scripture in the same way that Matthew does, a favourite example off the top of my head would be Galatians 3:16. The assertion that Paul makes here is beyond absurd when you read his assertions back into the passages he is referring to.
I could go on. I love Paul, there is so much to dissect. Please let me know if you would like me to go into any more detail on anything.
As a Jew you should not be scared to delve into the New Testament.
Both "delve" and "testament" in the same sentence? Are you ChatGPT?
@idonotknowwhy: What am I missing? Are 'delve' and 'Testament' ChatGPT uses a lot? I'm not a robot! I think?
@defecat0r: lol yeah, "delve" is ChatGPT's favorite word and most stories it generates include "a testament to …" somewhere in the first few paragraphs ;)
I agree with your first sentence. The OT is where all the good stuff happens.
Minus all the begetting.
I just can't stop myself shouting out my latest discovery
Ezekiel 23:20
Best discovery of my day on ozbargain last week.
Look up 2 Kings 2:23-24
@Jimothy Wongingtons: “And leaving them, he went out of the city to Bethany and lodged there.”
Matthew 21:17
What’s scandalous about this?
scam
How do you charge it?
ad/bc charging can use the trinity phase charger
Pentagram and candles
The best selling book of all time, still bring produced in 2024!
This or the Quilton 4 Ply?
king size better
Haters gonna hate. Oh, wait, wrong religion.
Nah, they still hate in this religion too, they just pretend they don't (and many aren't very good at pretending).
I'd sooner rely on the Quilton
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good time to practice sola scriptura
I prefer the King James version
How many pages is it?
Trying to work out if it's cheaper than toilet paper?
when will the quran be posted
Maybe when you stop being selfish and finally post a deal?
Any church worth its weight in Bibles, will give you one for free. But I’d say buying your own for under $10 is still worthwhile