New runout pricing for MY24 excite 51, get it while it hot
Driveaway price includes 12 months registration and compulsory third-party insurance cover. Offers available at participating MG Dealers for new stock vehicles only, sold and delivered between 01 September 2024 to 30 September 2024. While stock lasts. Excludes fleet, government, or rental buyers, or with any other offers.
Edit: The deal will now expire by the end of this month. Thanks to @Barry Quinn.
@King Tightarse: Yeah, i am glad that i have an ZS EV for around the town driving. The Kluger is only used for family trip, longer distance trip.
Sooo…what do you love and hate about it?
I’d buy this in a heartbeat if I hadn’t already got a new car.
Website doesn’t show this price though….
I see the articles on the news though.
Me too and I paid much more for a non-Tesla EV. Shame I don't need two cars ;-)
how do you get this price to show?
HODL for sub 30k ??
sub $20k, not much in those junk Evs, no need for extra$$
I know you're taking the piss, but just in case you arent, I don't think an M5 Wagon is comparable.
Is not even in the same galaxy as this. A budget EV econobox vs a highly coveted (and expensive) performance ICE vehicle with interiors and systems lightyears ahead.
Nice
Carsales prices going through the floor.
Personally though i'd be going for the large battery size one.
But 10 years warranty + car which can act as a battery pack and power your house. It's a no brainer
The larger one (64kwh) seems to be down to $37,990
Specs say it has V2L not V2H, so it can’t power your house.
And even if it could, most places don’t allow it and it requires a $10k bidirectional charger.
It’s sad, I suspect many people would buy a 51kwh, $30k battery that could be used as car in a pinch. It’d basically let us turn off the coal plants in summer if a few thousand people could charge for free during the day and sell back at night.
I have a different V2L car and it powers my house (apart from 20kw AC).
No bidirectional charger just a generator changeover switch and an inlet to plug the car into. Works good but is limited 16a output at a time.
@Banga: I just got a Deye inverter to get this setup. If you're based in NSW can you refer the electrician that helped you setup the changeover switch please? Would pair well with this MG4 :)
@Banga: Ooh, I never thought about that possibility. I'm going to look into that, thanks!
I have gas for stove and hot water, aircon is the only major power draw, running everything else off the car would be pretty straight forward.
@Banga: @Banga interested in the same. If you have contact/details of the setup, that would be great. cheers
Look up Ambibox. Something like that will be coming to the Australian market in 10 years.
But the large batteries are NMC, while the small one is LFP.
Take this from an MG owner that had the first version of ZS EV (with NMC) and now the current version (with LFP):
The usable capacity of NMC is a lot less compared to name-plate because they have a 'top buffer', meaning they never actually charge to 100% to protect the battery from degradation. For the ZS EV the top buffer was 6%. LFP on the other hand charges to actual 100%, no top buffer. Bottom buffer is about the same for both.
NMC degrades quicker than LFP. For my 2021 ZS EV it went to about 94% SOH after 18 months (28'km), with corresponding reduction in range. My 2022 ZS EV (coming up on 2 years now) still gets the same range as when it was new. Basically 0 degradation.
Combine those two factors, and after a couple of years the difference in range between the 51kWh LFP and 64kWh NMC will only be around 10%. After a few more years they will have the same range. By the time both cars come of warranty the one with the little battery will most likely have a better remaining range. And a lot more life left in it, increasing resale value.
Good info, thanks for taking the time to post this.
Ok - so defo in the market for EV car - this is probably earlier then planned.
But what battery does the excite 51 above have? The good battery (slow degradation) or the bad battery?
The 51 version is LFP. The bigger ones are NMC.
Now that the 51 is on special, we will do a test drive to perhaps convert my partner's daily ride to EV as well.
Geeezus… this price is insane.
Wow - 30k! And the guy in my street still parks over two spaces like it’s a Ferrari.
i used to do that with my <30k new card and somehow still ended up with random dents, it's unavoidable
Hint: the dents and scratches aren't caused by another vehicle.
It's you, isn't it?!
I’m starting to wonder if ccp has helped Australia more then woke crap coming from USA
Well they've certainly helped our navy travel a lot more to the South CCP Sea lately.
Didnt Australia do a disappointing submarine deal with USA also, pretty costly one..
@HangryCakeStore: Pointless and disappointing, we don't need offensive submarines when we are in the most defensible place on the planet .
And then we fkd over our Euro friends for the building contracts for the best decisions we could have made if we were going to buy subs, and instead decided to pay more for something that will obviously blow out by many billions and probably not eventuate.
And agreed to take nuclear waste as part of the deal…
It all smells a lot like corruption.
There definitely is a pro-China vs anti-China/CCP sentiment going on in this website.
Makes sense, ozbargain has essentially become a front for unknown/new Chinese brands like Xiaomi and Huawei in the past, and nowadays all these cheap cars from China.
There definitely is a pro-China vs anti-China/CCP sentiment going on in this website.
Anti-Communist sentiment has been a thing since Communism was invented. Perhaps you are young and only just observed this for the first time?
If you are wondering why that is, go find yourself any person who was brought up under actual Communism to explain it to you. Or just check the bodycount and ask yourself if that is something you would like more of?
Why are you talking as if I am somewhat romanticising communism?
My parents were brought up in a country that literally had a war with its neighbour which invaded them due to conflicting ideologies (communism vs democracy). That's enough for me.
Why are you talking as if I am somewhat romanticising communism?
I don't think I ever made that point. Your comment about 'anti-China/CCP sentiment on this website' sounded like you were unaware that anti-communism is something that has been commonplace for a century, and rightly so. This ideological war seemed to have been won in the 90's but Socialism/Communism seems to be making a comeback in the age of social media, so it's important to ensure that we ensure that this cancer against humanity is never allowed to take hold once again.
Price parity with an equivalent petrol…incredible.
Sure the range is not great.. but more than enough for a 2nd car whose main job if just drop offs and shopping.
I don't know many people that travel more than 350km per day.
One charge should last the average driver 10 days or more.
Anything to be aware of with this car?
What's the battery thermal management like?
Doesn't really matter if you have a 10 year warranty
But from all accounts they're proving fairly reliable.
I hear the interior scratches up quite easily.
The ADAS is (was?) too sensitive.
I don't believe MG do OTA updates. You have to take the car in for updates.
Apparently it's fun to drive.
ADAS = Advanced Driver Assistance System (lane keep assist, etc)
OTA update = Over the Air update. Software fixes and enhancements.
Sound system is awful on the Excite. Very tinny and hollow. It's something out of a 1990s budget car.
Many people have reported phantom braking events, where the car will slam on the brakes for no reason. This may have been fixed by software updates however.
No anchor points for a roof rack. You can get ones that wrap around the door frame, but these are not supported by MG.
Also can only tow 500kg.
Wow, Phantom breaking is a deal breaker. Does turning off ADAS fix that?
Apparently you can disable AEB (automatic emergency braking) by putting the car in "tow mode". You don't have to turn tow mode on every time you get in the car.
Tow mode also disables lane keep assist, adaptive cruise control, and possibly some other ADAS features.
Hopefully they update the software to prevent phantom braking from happening, but the problem has existed for a long time and I still see posts about it.
@donm: My concern is that will always say that they fixed it, regardless of whether they only fixed it a little
@justtoreply: Yep. That's a valid concern. I know BYD have made significant improvements to their ADAS over time using OTA updates. It makes sense for MG to improve their tech as well. By doing so, they'll retain customers and improve current as well as future vehicles.
Radio is horrible but carplay or android auto is acceptable.
Had this for 9months, no phantom braking.
Only annoying thing for me is you can't save the settings
Other than that, it's a fun drive
If you buy it second hand, the money stays in Aus ;)
even if you buy a Chinese car second-hand, the money originally went to the Chinese manufacturer when the car was first sold.
@bboz Most people agree with you. It's just that the CCP bots are always out in full force trying to censor or divert the conversation. Society as a whole is waking up to these concerns, and you're definitely not alone in thinking this way.
@bboz: Yes you're right I'm a CCP agent and we've infiltrated 90% of OzB posts.
Better leave now as most deals are products made in china and money goes back to my pocket as CCP agent.
@eddyah: Firstly, you wouldn't be getting any of my money as a CCP agent, especially if you were a bot.
Secondly, who are you? Did I address you directly previously?
Thirdly, and most importantly, you should read what people write before ranting on "as long as there are alternatives available".
@bboz: You would need to offer up a reason for your money not going to China for a car. Otherwise YOU are the one pushing the narrative ‘China bad’.
@bboz: Ozbargain is not "infiltrated by the CCP"…
Australia has a very large number of recent Chinese immigrants. It has only recently become the second source of immigrants, from 2 decades of being first (now replaced by India).
Ozbargain just obviously have many users of bargain-savvy Chinese background who seem to be "sympathetic" towards China / CCP. Many probably don't even know about the history of the CCP, nor care, except that it was involved in making modern China "prosper" and powerful, regardless of its values. They want to see China as a respectable country alongside the Asia's powerful Western allies (Japan and South Korea), and people using Chinese brands as they use Japanese or Korean brands without any qualms. It's in their own Chinese interests.
Anything that goes against this is American propaganda and anti-chinese propaganda and open to ridicule and downvoting.
What if the seller buys another Chinese car?
That money isn't staying in Australia, more money actually flows outward.
Fixed this for you 🙂
What if the seller buys another car?
That money isn't staying in Australia, more money actually flows outward.
Tesla, Apple…
*nothing to see here, move along.
He clearly means Chinese BRANDS.
Does he?
Eventually the money from your Iphone or Tesla ends up in China…
American brand or not, if its made in china, the components and labour are all chinese.
A perfectly reasonable position. I can't resist bargains, so my next car will probably be a BYD or MG.
so you are fine sending your money to CCP for phone, laptop and other goods which you would have bought already and buying? just curious to know since you mentioned 'Car' above?
Gee this comment was totally unexpected 🙄
No, I'm not ok with sending any of my money for anything to the CCP but, unfortunately, we often don't have a choice.
There is a reason why I added "as long as there are alternatives available" to the end of my comment.
Why? Are you suggesting I should be killed?
Me too - I upvoted this
negging is for losers
Do we still manufacture car? Car money goes to Japan, Europe, Korea, US ect anyway.
The difference is supporting allies with shared liberal democratic values… vs adversaries / dictatorships / autocracies.
You can pay extra to Toyota, Ford, BMW ect… not everyone has luxuries pay extra to allies car manufacturers (don’t know what benefits for Australia)… I love the price war on cars… as we have no car manufacturers. I prefer pay less for more. I agree if we can force them build their EV in Australia, totally agree… but just not paying extra because Japan, Europe, US are our friends. As I don’t have extra.
This is a deal for a car, jv
The ebike is probably more reliable
and flammable.
Had mine for a year now, fantastic car to drive. Almost tempted to buy another for the missus!
Which one you got - 51?
Yup. Been great. Super zippy, feels effortless, and handles very well too. Software bugs the only negative really.
sounds just like chinese phones, hardware outshines the software
@s1Lence: It's mostly these software-based safety systems they're implementing in every car now. Lane keep assist, emergency braking, etc. My mum just bought a new mitsubishi and it sounds like it's equally painful with warnings going off when they probably shouldn't. I can turn most of it off but there's no profile to save your settings, probably because that would breach the safety standards somehow…
I hear Tesla's have the ability to save your settings, so that's a bonus point for Tesla, but still the MG ticks just about every other box for me and my needs as a zippy short-trip runaround at fantastic value.
@bozzabear: Get one for the missus. My one ordered another brand and we paid much more than this price (not MG). But maybe you don't want two of the same car.
Heaps of new EV brands coming soon.
Hope Tesla price could drop to sub $50k
So a couple questions. 1) How much does it cost to install a charger at home? What's the cost to fully charge one of these assuming electricity cost is $0.25/kwh?
50kwh battery x 0.25c + 15% charging inefficiencies = $14.40ish
Anywhere from $1500 (Tesla basic tethered) - $3,000 (solar integrating bells and whistles) to have a charger installed at home, BUT, you could charge with the included slow charger (1.4kw speed vs 6.5-7kw speed. It is slow). In my Essence 64, 50% charge probably nets out to about $6-7.
That is some fairly basic maths: $0.25/kwh x 50.8kwh = $12.70 to do a full charge.
And a basic home charger is about $750.
If you have an EV and pay $0.25/kwh to charge it at home you should have your OB membership taken away! :)
I pay $0.08/kwh at home.
With Origin? Need to have a Tesla?
I've been using the slow charger straight out of a normal home wall socket for the past year. Can charge at 1.5 kw's per hour. This has been more than adequate for my daily use if I just plug in and charge every second night (I drive around 50kms a day).
This being said, I've just installed a faster charger from EVSwitch (currently being imported and sold by BYD but can use on any EV) for around $1k. This can charge at rate up to 7kw per hour so nearly 5 times quicker.
Charging cost is easy. 51kwh battery size multiplied by $0.25/kwh = $12.75 to fully charge the MG and drive up to 350km range. That's peanuts compared to petrol cars.
Many people use the included charger that plugs straight into a power point. You'll get about 10km/hour. So coming home 9pm, leaving home 7am, you'd have 100km range added over night.
Wouldn't you be better off slow charging anyway, to conserve battery life?
We do 15-20km/day so it'd be possible for us
All of the AC charging methods are pretty much equal in terms of battery life. Whether you plug into a power point and draw about 2kW or get a dedicated charger and charge at 7kW, no real difference.
The only difference is the number of km you add per hour, and with more refined (and more expensive) dedicated chargers the option to synchronise with surplus solar power or time charging to make use of an off-peak tariff.
DC charging (typically 50kW or more) on the other hand is a lot more stressful for the battery.
@team teri: Something to keep in mind is that 2-300w of the power you suck goes to thermal management/inefficiencies. So the longer you take to charge the car, the more you lose.
@od810: 17l /100km Crikey!