No degree almost straight out of high school and earning $120k. Should every young person be trying to get the same job as her in the cost of living crisis?
20 Year Old on $120k (Tech Sales)
boostpak on 10/09/2024 - 11:32
Last edited 10/09/2024 - 14:02 by 1 other user
Last edited 10/09/2024 - 14:02 by 1 other user
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what job
Car accident scene re-creations for insurance companies.
Name checks out
MSPaint expertise
sounds dangerous, crash test dummies must be getting expensive.
Is this myth busters!? Non-tech role would mean it can't be 3D simulation modelling in any facet!
Hold up lollipop for a living
Ex adult entertainers?
In my industry == Easy to earn $90,000+ (NO uni degree/etc)
Infact my work utilises a program (through WA gov) … To bridge gap with some of local high schools in the area.
+++ to employ kids out of high school (traineeship) +++ Aboriginal traineeship - to put them on a better path in life.
With OT - (in past) have earnt just over $140,000/yr … But these days sit around $100,000/$120,000 (work/life balance).
NON-IT role.
So mining?
Nah, just doing welcome to countries for events.
exactly - get on a cfmeu or FIFO job in queensland and $150K starting salary for an apprentice would be a reason to strike and march! Plenty of youngsters with no degree on more than that …. #inflation
The last few paragraphs are spot on
“If you have the right attitude and hustle"
“Sales can be rough. It’s so measurable, and there’s a constant pressure to hit quota,”Few last and make it a real career
Sound high stress and high chance of burnout.
100%, and very high turnover career - companies won't hesitate to dump you for missing a quarter's targets.
Sales is full of people who fall into it - no surprise that people with little direction and goals find a career with clear targets difficult and stressful
Is it hard and rough for hard workers - no
I think it depends on the worker and exact sales job. I have a friend selling novated leases, he's not a natural sales guy. He's earning around 180k - works hard to get his bonuses, but the work isn't that hard.
This is true and constant pressure to hit quotas means the vast majority would hate every minute of being in those type of jobs. Being a natural sales person is a skill very few people have and even fewer can do it long term.
Sales is effing gross. Give me my shitty office job any day thanks.
No degree almost straight out of highschool
Huh?
Go and look at her linkedin. She had 5+ years experience and has a bachelors.
That's just complete BS, what is going on?
Go and look at her linkedin. She had 5+ years experience and has a bachelors.
2018 to 2021 - McDonalds - Age 14 to 16
2021 to 2022 - Zeus Greek Food - Age 17 to 18
2022 to 2023 - "Customer Experience Specialist" / "Sales Development Representative" in a small smart up- Age 18 to 19
Aug 2023 - Sep 2024 - 3 different companies - All various BDM roles. Age 19 to 20I'm sure her strategic prospecting of clients at McD and Zeus made her an amazing hire for that software company. But its not 5 years of experience. Its 1 to 2 years of experience and if that 120k is true.. then she's doing well for herself.
The Bachelors from UTS is due in 2025… She doesn't "have" a bachelors.
Beside the point? You're factually wrong.
She is 100% straight out of school and has no degree. She has just started a part time degree.
The part of the narrative you should be questioning is what is this 120k she speaks of. All her jobs are in a start up.. where you might get 50k cash and 70k in bonus equity that may or may not materialise. Yet you insist on hanging your hat on misreading Linkedin.
@brandt: Lot of sales depend on commissions and it also depends on whether your team is actually pulling more weight.
Obviously a lot of people on here have no idea what they are talking about. Real estate agents also rake in big money due to deal flow (just like Investment Bankers) not sitting around collecting a regular pay cheque.
@netjock: Yeah, thats why the "120k" salary number smells off to me because the companies on her resume are $0 to 5M revenue, so I find it hard to believe they'll hire a new kid at 120k when they probably get an experienced sales person who already has leads, relationships etc. Even someone with 3 to 5 years of experience will be vastly better at the job and bring more to the table.
@brandt: I don't see what your issue is. She is clearly keen: been working preety much right through high school, and several jobs since, whilst putting herself through uni. $120K isn't a lot in tech, and it sounds like she has the charisma & attitude to sell stuff.
She seems very employable and will probably make a great career for herself.The experienced sales people you refer to probably ask for twice that salary.
@SlickMick: My issue is setting unrealistic expectations for young people rather than calling out that this is 0.1% exception who went viral. This is not on her but on the media who want a reason to use her face to get clicks.
@SlickMick: I wonder if the $120k response she gave was truly her salary or her salary + commission. She seems like a driven young woman, so I wouldn't be surprised if she was prioritizing work and study more than going out and other assorted early 20's activities.
I can understand what the other guy is saying, though. Seeing other people doing considerably better than you can either be disappointing or motivating. I know I feel like shit after an hour long insta reel binge spent watching 20 year olds driving Lamborghinis and building 7 figure businesses.
Not sure why you’ve got so many negs.
I’m with you, she’s 20 years old.
To me that is not “straight out of school either”
Good on her, must be a slow news day
'Aug 2023 - Sep 2024 - 3 different companies - All various BDM roles'
this is a huge red flag - could be either can't sell or can't get along with others.
It's not about her experience.
From the first 30 seconds you can tell she has a high EQ and excellent communication skills (even though the interview may be rehearsed), presents well and if you cannot discern this then it is hard to explain to something.
It's not about age. Some people are just born with good rapport, EQ and are just people people. Sales is pretty much this in Australia, sales in america is different and more cut throat.
$120k is a fairly entry level salary for mid tier sales with medical equipment bdm running in the $400-500k mark.
You cannot just degree your way into these jobs, you need to have the adequate presentation and people skills because we live first in a physical world then a world of proper communication.
You could get 3 degrees and still not present as well plus the adequate personality to deal appropriately with people.
She would be a definite hire for any BDM team, if she doesn't get results then no worries just get rid of her and have the next person come through.
BDM is a KPI and nothing more than that, having excellent empathy skills and presenting well helps heaps and being very switched on which she appears to be.
Furthermore she is cold calling which is the worst of the worst, the turnover rate on those jobs is enormous. It is very much a clickbait article and shouldn't be relied upon to determine careers for women in IT. Cold calling is the wrost I literlaly lasted half a day in it before I got bored. As a student though it was delivering $50-60 an hour vs $17, so the money is great if you can hack it.
so you made $240 in half a day and couldn't hack it?
You go do it, try it for yourself.
I can't do brain numbing stuff like cold calling or market research. Money is one motivator, but often not the strongest. It's not sustainable in the long run.
Some people can. Some people can also get up in the morning at 5am, pour 100sqm of concrete and then spend the next 7 hours finishing it.
@DrScavenger: It pays very well my friend, at minimum $60 an hour for experienced guys.
I would suggest mixing up 8-10 bags of concrete yourself, do some formwork, pour then float it, trowel it and see how you go.
@coffeeinmyveins She stated she had 'just' turned 20, therefore her 120k income would be from age 19-20 that is the second year of earnings removed from high school. So more or less looked at as straight out of high school. How does one obtain a bachelors degree at 19 just turned 20? I don't understand your 5+ year experience logic either. I don't really understand any of your logic.
Nothing is beside the point champ.
im prob gonna cop a lot of negs but come on brah, the lady is super easy on the eyes, and the industry is super sexist, would be easy af to close deals - surely some of that 120k is based on OTE and other bonuses.
“Sales can be rough.
When do we hear about the over time, the pressure, the burn out, the harrassment etc
the same job as her in the cost of living crisis?
Bro I am on just over 120 and I'm stressing. My kids are going to have to be on like 250k by the time they get to my age to be able to afford anything .
she has 5 years of exp and a bachelors, she's not straight out of highschool.
When do we hear about the over time, the pressure, the burn out, the harrassment etc
yeah this. she isn't doing 5 hour days.
Easy on the eye usually means trouble (with the purchased tech).
Yep im pretty sure I've read that people who are more attractive are more successful in life. They tend to get validation etc which pushes their confidence up. The halo effect is real
Me: *profuse sweating *
What a load of shit. No one right out of school lands a job earning $120k with no qualifications unless they are working for “mum and dad” as an entry level CEO.
People need to stop gobbling up this social media bullshit. This is the equivalent of looking at Kim Kardashian and thinking that if you opened a social media account you would be on millions a year as well.
This is on the same level as all those “instagram models” who flip road signs for $120,000+… but fail to mention the hours they need to work just to make that kind of pay. Or extrapolate that they once got a huge pay cheque and just multiplied that by 52 to get a yearly wage when for the other 51 weeks of the year they are on (fropanity) all.
opened a social media account you would be on millions a year as well.
step 1: dont be ugly
me: damn
*cue to shot of me balding, overweight, stressed, working for peanuts, high blood pressure in peak hour bumper bumper traffic up the m1 on to yet another client meeting where no one on site has any idea of whats going on and some project manager in pristine rmw boots is just going OFF at everyone - meanwhile a (actually quite attractive) lady is literally set for life for saying 'hawk tuah' on camera *
(no hate on her, i think shes made some good plays and really capitalised well on a chance opportunity)
We're all gonna die in the end my man. Keep on keeping on.
I can always count on you for relatable comments in just about any thread.
Thank you Jimothy.
cheers mate, i try.
Uh… are we brothers?
we are all brothers in Christ.
It's ok bro.
I'm the guy who makes sure that project manager in rmw boots shits himself when we call bullshit on their billable hours and refuse to pay the invoice.
Can't you earn that much washing dishes up at the mines?
Oh, easily when your union is full of bikes and standover thugs. Not sure how deep the CFMEU is into “tech sales” though…
Knee deep?
CFMEU and other unions not big in WA mining and resource industry. Salaries are high because productivity is high and hours are long - but mainly because the guys know who butters their bread and realise that unions would derail the gravy train for them.
How sweet it must be to have a parent that is rich, or just owns an average business that makes any kind of profit. Guaranteed money, guaranteed job that you can't possibly be fired from if you have any sense. And you get to inherit it all one day, plus all the land your parents bought because that's what Australians with money do..
At least those instagram people are making content people are consuming, they are actually entertaining people.
Anyone with half a brain already has guaranteed money and a guaranteed job. You'd have to be a dropkick to be fired from a job here in Australia. Living and working here is easy as (profanity).
Rich kids seem a bit more braindead than most.
@AustriaBargain: Possibly, but let that be a problem for them. Life is still easy as shit for anyone who is not mentally or physically disabled.
@justworld: life is probably only easy for the top 40% of people. anyone at around the median income or lower would be struggling
@redfox1200: The vast majority of Australians live extremely easy lives with incredible material wealth and comfort compared to 98% of humans anywhere else at at any point in time.
Life is difficult for some of the local people. It's not their fault, they were spoiled growing up and only know to complain. Meanwhile people from overseas, who often come here with nothing tend to thrive.
What a load of shit. No one right out of school lands a job earning $120k with no qualifications unless they are working for “mum and dad” as an entry level CEO.
that's because she's not "right out of school".
Go and read her LinkedIn and it's not so far-fetched.
We used to joke if going in front of recruiters always say you make 20% more than you make right now.
I think that's very true though?
Until you are on $180k and 20% boost would put you in about the same ball park as your manager.
Generally true.
You can earn very low six figs (i.e. $100k-$140k) without a degree and in your early 20s if you are willing to work long hours incl O/T or unsociable hours or perform shift work/FIFO work.
Thing is, those jobs don't scale well.
For reliable employment that gets you out of the low 6 figures into the mid 6 figures you need a degree and marketable skills or you need to start your own business.
Normal entry level SDR positions in tech sales will pay 100-120k. Obviously this includes base salary and commissions.
@pegaxs I have a feeling you are spot on mate. Why would a company pay a 19 year old 120k with basically no experience over someone with 15-20 years experience, proven work ethic, the right contacts, knows the game, previous company sales records.
Is there enough 120k to go around for every person to have that job?
She's had 3 different jobs in the past month, usually sales pay base and commission so I wonder how she is calculating her annual salary?
That's a good point actually.
Maybe her base salary is 75k+ sales opp.
Some of these "how much do you earn" things on the street are stupid and the news sites eat them up because it creates a narrative of "you're just lazy" rather than "everything is (profanity)".
Take the day you close the sale and annualise it!
probably, let's hope she doesn't spend it all before it hits her account.
People always count their chickens before they hatch.
Notice how everyone living on pay cheque to pay cheque and then want a tax payer bail out. Who do these people think tax payers are?
Having an onlyfans page is hardly tech sales
To be fair it does require an internet connection and selling yourself.
selling yourself.
new business model, people pay ME to NOT have to look at media content of me.. hmm
I'd buy that for a dollar.
OnlyHaters
Setting up a webcam is not for everyone.
Wait! What? You need a webcam? No wonder I don't have any members.
No member on-line = no $$
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I work with several people in their very early twenties (male and female) making $150k pa with 8 hours overtime per fortnight. Non tech role. No degree. Still don't earn enough to be on ozbargain though.