People’s adverse reactions to flu injections? Only serious comments please. Not the whether to have flu injection just your experience with adverse reactions
Flu injection reactions
aocal on 08/08/2024 - 10:32
Last edited 08/08/2024 - 13:49
Last edited 08/08/2024 - 13:49
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Has hubby had the MRNA covid shots as well? (Relevant)
I have no medical knowledge and hence will stay out of this one, except to say my uncle did have very serious heart/blood issues (not a heart attack) caused by a vaccine (according to the medical staff in Melbourne). It wasn't the flu vaccine, and I believe that was a relatively rare outcome, so that doesn't mean anything in your case.
I just wanted to comment as I find it very sad that people here get so triggered and dismissive if you ask the question. It's your health, and real medical professionals would encourage you to ask questions so you can be informed.
I agree medical professionals would encourage you to ask questions. But they would probably suggest you ask medical professionals, like the ones at the hospital where the husband was taken due to the heart attack, rather than a bargain website.
Yes that's right. Fair chance they were pre-occupied with the immediate effects of the heart attack itself at the time though, but good for a follow up.
Disclaimer: I'm not a medical professional.
Vaccine injury and auto-immune responses are absolutely a thing. However, these tend to be exceptionally rare AFAIK. Very much possible, this could have been the case.This is a question OP should be asking the treating professional to diagnose, rather than a bargain forum.
People get triggered and dismissive because of the exceptionally high propensity for the mouthbreathing cookers with chromosomal defects here at OzB to crawl out of the woodwork and start shitting all over the thread with their neanderthal takes.
Settle down there princess, no need to be rude. This woman's husband got a vaccine so I have no idea why you all keep getting worked up about cookers.
Yes she should ask the professionals, but her husband's just had a heart attack and deserves some basic human decency rather than abuse cos you lot don't understand what healthy disagreement is.
Easy there tiger. Make the effort to understand what I'm saying with the added context below.
I acknowledged vaccine injury/complications is a possibility (based on anecdotal experience who is dealing with auto immune complications) and recommended she steer clear of advice and moronic takes from all and sundry here. There is an absolute boatload of misinformation here, and the forums are a complete shitshow.
The abuse was absolutely not directed at OP, at all. To explain further, everytime there is a discussion around vaccination (and oftentimes its on unrelated threads) there is a very vocal minority of anti-vaxer muppets who use this opportunity to start their usual schenanigans. Thus the guidance to an obviously distressed OP to speak to their healthcare professional to avoid falling into the rabbit-hole of their BS.
@ThadtheChad: Apologies, I was referring to the general thread making fun of her but thought you were labelling her a cooker too. I don't think cooker comments are ever really helpful but acknowledging that vaccines aren't 100% shows more nuance than 95% of the fragile people in this thread are capable of.
Is this the first time you two have had the flu vax?
If not, what happened previously?
You won't get the information you seek here …
All here deny that "excess deaths" are still 10% higher across the western world than they should be
(and these are working age deaths that are not attributable to known diseases nor the elderly)Here is a tidbit of information:
https://lens.monash.edu/@medicine-health/2024/05/20/1386737/…
(so might be worth checking what was in the fluvax he received to see if it was the old one or a new version as talked about above)The "new version" talked about in the article doesn't exist yet. It's why the article is about the development of such a vaccine, not the use of them.
Citation needed
There are excess deaths, but most analysis suggests that this is till due to COVID-19. For example: https://www.abs.gov.au/statistics/health/causes-death/provis…
Ockham's razor says this is far more likely an explanation than random conspiracy theories about vaccines.
But the antivaxxers think Covid doesn’t kill people. Stop making sense. :)
Excess deaths have been a notable event for all western countries. Experiencing levels way beyond the mean.
This should not be the case considering the most vulnerable would have died between 2020-22. In that instance you would expect a decline in excess deaths.Feel free to keep trying to make the facts fit your internal narrative. But as you can see from the link above the relationship between reported COVID cases (which constitute hospitalisations these days) and excess deaths is extremely strong.
We have seen a decline in excess deaths. There was a huge spike in 21-22 as we opened up, partly because there was an overall decline in 2020 because lockdown really reduces death rates. Since then we have seen a decline in excess deaths. But your assumption that all the vulnerable people are already dead is manifestly incorrect. First, vulnerability is not a static state. People become vulnerable over time. Someone who is vulnerable in 2024 wasn't necessarily vulnerable in 2020. Second, not every vulnerable person would have caught COVID or even had an extremely poor reaction to it the first time around. They may react worse to later variation than the early ones.
@bobswinkle: Yup. You can also add in people who didn’t get routine testing during lockdown to detect things like cancer or heart issues before they developed further. It is a very complex situation that is still playing out. We have just added the risks associated with Covid into the mix of an aging population in Western countries.
It's not likely to be 100% sure on anything in medicine, but there the likelihood is pretty low.
Tens of thousands of people have heart attacks each year, primarily people over 65, and more than 2/3rds of people over 65 get the flu shot each year. The odds of a heart attack victim also having had the flu shot is really high as a result. But the odds of someone having a heart attack after getting the flu shot is very low. There is a lot of data collected on this stuff too, anyone with the time could easily prove whether heart attacks are higher or lower in vaccinated vs unvaccinated.
But if you take people under 65, 25% of that population still get the flu shot, but heart attacks are incredibly rare. Additionally when taken by gender, flu shots are evenly distributed (generally slightly higher in women) yet heart attacks occur a lot more in men.
There's also that serious side effects after vaccines are in the fraction of a percent, whereas heart attacks occur in over 20% of people over 65.
All in all, probably caused by something that's not a vaccine. But whatever the cause, the best thing now is to help him recover and listen to his doctor on how to improve heart health.
That information is out of date by about 4 years.
Erm, no it isn't, it's from 4 days ago.
https://www.health.gov.au/resources/publications/influenza-f…
Plus, how would the instance of heart attacks from the flu vaccine have changed in the past 4 years? The flu vaccine is mostly the same as it was 4 years ago.
Did you confuse your covid anti-vax stance with your flu anti-vax stance?
It's a strange stance, most cookers prefer to assume we are living in 2 years ago (the last time their anti-vax rhetoric had some timeliness).
Maybe the "taxation is theft" brainworms adds another 2 years of regression on?
Does each additional conspiracy wind back the clock another two years? Is that why their main messaging service is called Telegram?
@CrowReally: Geez I hope you're not going to send me rent bill for all the space I take up in your head, even as cramped as it is in there. :)
@EightImmortals: I would, but I expect I would receive the bill back covered in maritime and Magna Carta symbols telling me how you're actually a human born corporation who isn't bound by the government's laws
I did indeed. I picked up on this bit: "Tens of thousands of people have heart attacks each year, primarily people over 65" and totally missed 'flu shot' bit so my apologies on that point. I reserve the right to change my mind when the MRNA lipid particle flu shots get rolled out however. The flu shot do have problems but heart attacks wasn't one of them AFAIK. Though there was a study on diabetic patients back in 2011 that raised questions.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20964738/
Anyway, my bad for missing your main point. I did ask the OP whether hubby had had the covid mrna shots which are a real problem but haven't got an answer yet.
The odds of a heart attack victim also having had the flu shot is really high as a result. But the odds of someone having a heart attack after getting the flu shot is very low.
What would you consider low? What is the point at which you would consider there was a safety signal that vaccines were likely to cause heart attacks.
Say, for example in the >65yo cohort, 10000 men received a flu injection & within 48 hours 100 of them presented to emergency with chest pains & were found to have cardiac issues. None of them had previous heart concerns. Would that be a "safety signal" to you? That's 1 in 100. If not, what are the numbers that would concern you?
You're looking at it backwards. You don't go looking for a problem with vaccines more than you look for heart attacks caused by sofas, you look at the sudden spike in cardiac issues amongst men who had never previously had heart concerns. If they had all just had a flu vaccine in the past 48 hours, that's significantly higher than the general rate of heart attacks amongst healthy men over 65. Much like if all 100 had eaten a sofa in the past 48 hours. It's why doctors always ask about what medications you've taken recently, allergies, events, things that cause stress, etc.
It's also a simplistic example, what's specific about this cohort? Over a million men get a flu vaccination each year, if it's just this cohort of 10,000 that had high rates of heart attacks then the vaccine is probably fine and it's something specific about the cohort, because it'd be a massive outlier.
If they were the first 10,000 to get the vaccine in a specific year then yes, that raises massive alarm bells because that is a huge spike in the death rate and the vaccine needs to be pulled instantly because it's likely the deaths won't stop there. If they were 10,000 on a specific day during vaccination season then that raises huge concerns about the batch of the vaccine. If they were vaccinated in the same building then there's a bigger concern about the building than the vaccine. If the cohort was a group of men over 65 who had a night of cocaine and strippers within 48 hours of being vaccinated… well I'm surprised it's only 1 in 100.
It's basic statistics. How do these 10,000 compare to the other 1.5m men over 65 who get vaccinated each year? We can compare them to the hundreds of thousands of men over 65 who don't have the flu vaccine. And there you get your baselines of how safe a vaccine is.
You don't go looking for a problem with vaccines
Why not? Wouldn't you want to know how much harm they are really causing?
@mrdean: Way to ignore absolutely every part of my post in search of a sound bite. I answered your question already, because we track all deaths and look at the cause, rather than completely imagining there is a cause of death we're missing and blaming it on one thing that you've decided is "really causing" more harm that it actually is.
Looking at your posts, it's the same random smattering of starting with the position vaccines are bad and working from there. When you find a paper that you think vaccines are bad, you post it. When there is no data, you claim no one is looking for it. When the data says the opposite, you ignore that and start claiming we're not really looking.
because we track all deaths and look at the cause,
Yes, I'm sure this 27 page document inspires a great deal of faith in the system.
Freedom of Information request 4434, 1st August 2023, causality assessment of daen case number 682908.
https://www.tga.gov.au/sites/default/files/2023-08/FOI%20443…
Now, I don't know about you, but there's quite a few redacted pages in that document, making it for all practical purposes, useless in seeing how the TGA bureaucrats came to the conclusion of "unlikely causality" for this 89 year old female who took the AZ countermeasure.
Upvoted simply for eating sofas.
Just as likely to be the porn he was watching a few seconds before his heart attack
Was there a reason he got the flu jab? I thought only at-risk people get the flu jab. I have never received the flu vaccine, and have been fine without it.
Herd mentality, most people do what they are told without doing a second of research into things for themselves.
Herd mentality, most people do what they are told without doing a second of research into things for themselves.
Don't flatter yourself buddy, unless you're a medical researcher or possibly a statistician, you're just following a different herd.
One that's left-shifted on the bell curve.
Consuming marginalised YouTube channels or whatever does not make you the unbounded freethinker that you so desperately want to portray yourself as. It just makes you a more gullible version of sheep.
Better a sheep than a lemming I guess.
@EightImmortals: Continues to show just how little you know.
Sheep are raised as a foodstock.
Lemmings jumping off cliffs is a myth invented by a 1970s documentary that embedded itself into pop culture.
So it's better to be a lemming than a sheep, unless you're happier wallowing in smug ignorance.
Because injecting yourself with last year's flu strains to combat as the yet undiscovered/unsequenced flu strains of the following year is just science(TM) baby. In the same way that pumping yourself full of Covid boosters based on strains of the virus that are no longer in circulation or have long ago mutated will do wonders to stop you acquiring and transmitting the current strains of Covid. The filthy masses of ignorant plebs who can't move at the speed of science simply won't understand.
I have never received the flu vaccine, and have been fine without it.
Whoa there heretic… you're relying on your immune system? Those have been obsoleted and discontinued since 2020 thanks to the global roll-out of immunodeficiency-as-a-service and subscription-based-health-outcomes by our benevolent Big Pharma overlords. All your immune systems are belong to us now. Please proceed to your nearest Immunisation Re-Education Facility to be forcibly subjected to a vaccine hesitancy deprogramming protocol, otherwise you may be denied access to civilisation without warning. Thank you and have a nice day.
If you separated your obvious lack of understanding of biology from your criticism of government overreach you would have a point that would reach some people.
As it stands you tarnish those who have legitimate concerns about government powers by association.
No, I still do have a point, your only argument is that I should just censor myself to appease the feeble-minded and easily-outraged, which is just stupid.
As it stands you tarnish those who have legitimate concerns about government powers by association.
Oh goodness no…
…anyway. If you're quite finished being hysterical, don't the let door hit you on the way out.
@Miami Mall Alien: No my argument is that you are coming across as a moron because you mix legitimate concerns with easily disproven arguments.
Don't let the bird droppings hit you on the way out.
It's been scientifically shown that having the flu shot will reduce the severity of an infection for a large number of people. I procrastinated about mine this year, got the flu and was laid out for about 48 hours. It was never going to kill me, but I would rather have those 48 hours back. My partner caught it from me, she had minor cold symptoms for a couple of days. I won't procrastinate in the future.
My anecdotal story isn't science. But the science tells the same story.
First time i heard only at risk people get the flu shot. Many organisations have free flu shots and have people come and administer them. Lots of 20-50 healthy adults at my work get free flu shots through work that dont deal with at risk people.
Is it just a coincidence that my healthy husband had a heart attack the day after receiving the flu injection? Has anyone else experienced a similar unexplained event.
20% of adults between 15 and 50 have had a flu vaccine in the past year- 5.2M people.
1.3M heart attacks per year.
Assuming even distributions throughout the year (and various other simplifications like people don't get 2 or more per year) then every year 1400 people have a heart attack within 48 hours of being vaccinated.
OMG flu vaccine causes heart attack!
iirc heart attacks are more likely in winter due to increased blood pressure during cold times
I got Shingles after this year’s flu shot.
I got aids after taking a shot.
You win.
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Great post. Boomers gonna Boom.
Who says they were healthy?
Friend of mine had a heart attack during sex. Does he, or anyone, blame 'sex'? No. He blames the 40 years of an unhealthy lifestyle and obesity.Only reaction i have had from flu shots, is usually a lighter version of the flu for a few days. The tetanus / 3-1 shot (i believe it covers whooping cough as well? ) always gives me a bad flu for a few days. The 3rd / booster shot fromthe Pfizer / covid vaccine gave me vertigo followed by myocarditis which i struggled with for a year before it started to get a bit better but i still have some issues with.
Did you report the adverse reactions from the booster shot to the TGA?
I reported it to the doctors / specialists who also didnt know or werent comfortable in reporting it higher up, even though some of them said they knew a lot of other patients with similar issues. Some were more willing to be vocal about it than others.
Thanks for the reply. It's more evidence that the reporting systems are capturing just a fraction of adverse events, & that doctors are either afraid to report them for fear of reprisals or they are just brainwashed in the "safe & effective" narrative.
I felt brilliant after my flu injection.
As the nurse stuck the needle into my arm I got a slight adrenal rush that lasted a few seconds.Maybe the adrenal rush was too much for your husband.
I hope he gets better.Vaccinations have a large positive nett benefit. They do a lot of good. But people who think they do no harm are putting a stupid simplistic view. Vaccinations are done not because the authorities know, or even believe, they do no harm whatsoever, but because they are confident they'll do a lot more good than harm.
For example, the COVID vaccinations were officially considered by the medical profession to be the cause of the death of 16 Australians. And it was known before they were given that would happen. But because they saved 16,000 from dying they were worth doing. Its just tough if you are one of the 16 rather than one of the 16,000.
Heart attacks were one of the things that vaccinations, like the COVID vaccine, were known to cause in small numbers.
I had one of the other ones that are known to be caused by ALL vaccinations, including the flu vaccine. Guillain-Barre Syndrome. The vaccine caused my immune system to be triggered by the foreign body in my system, and it attacked the sheaths on my nerves. It took me 11 months to mostly recover. I have permanently lost full use of my left hand.
The flu vaccine is just as likely to cause GBS and heart attacks as the COVID vaccine. It was just with the COVID vaccines, they were all new, with little testing and no long term experience, and they were given to a very large number of people.
Medical procedures very rarely have no ill effects to anyone. I had a colonoscopy to remove cancer. I was warned that there was a one in 2000 chance they'd puncture my bowel and do serious harm.
I had to accept that there was a small chance of an adverse event when I had my COVID vaccine.
You have to accept that for the protection you get from the flu there is a small chance that you'll have an adverse event like a heart attack.
You just have to accept medicine doesn't offer guarantees, and trust that they are practicing it in a way that ensure that what they do will have a large nett benefit, and roll the dice and hope you won't be one of the ones who loses the bet.
I had to accept that there was a small chance of an adverse event when I had my COVID vaccine.
What if the authorities have been misleading people about the "small chance of an adverse event"? Covering up the numbers to make them look "rare". What if the true number of deaths from covid vaccines are far more than the 16 deaths officially recognised as "likely" due to the injections?
Stop watching the news. You have literally repeated what you have been told. This is misinformation!
You have literally repeated what you have been told
And your aren't?
Do you have your own lab where you do original research? Lol
No I don’t have a lab. Research is not what you’re told. Did you see the proof for yourself?
@AussieDolphin: If research is not something you're told, then it's something you've come up with yourself. Reading some randoms blog and accepting it, is being told.
Your definition of proof is questionable.
Have you seen the proof yourself?
I'm one up you, I'm alive, so therefore vaccine isn't the demon 🤯
I dont consider / compare covid vaccine to all other vaccines. Every doctor i know as friends or as my doctor are pro vaccines, A lot of these same doctors were pro covid vaccine at the beginning but down the track they became anti covid vaccine after they started to see a lot of issues from it as well as reports from their colleagues. There are more and more research and information coming out about how much damage the covid vaccines have done, and some of it is quite damning and it is coming from the medical fields. As well as its still early days. We will probably only be able to look at some of what has happened 10 years down the line once we have collected more information as well as compared and analysed the data. Even then who knows,as it could end up implicating some people in lawsuits or other complications, maybe these findings will never fully come out.
Or the data could add up to not much at all, we need to collect information. We will know more down the track. However if you compare world prevaccine death rate to post vaccine death rate there is a definite difference. It would also be nice to see the issues with getting Covid compared to getting vaccinated. I suspect there will be no lawsuits.
The trouble with Australian doctors is most of them wouldn’t see the mass casualty rates that overseas doctors were seeing with pre vaccinated Covid. I, suspect, their attitudes would be a tad different if they had patients dying in corridors because of lack of beds.
Except thats still conjecture as well, from what a lot of medical staff seem to imply is the first wave / strain was the one that did a lot of the damage, but also the question is whether these same people would have died with the vaccine too….? But thats something we cant know for sure now.
My problem is I dont care if the doctors thought covid killed more than the vaccine did and so they MADE the choice for everyone or the government decided for everyone. MY Issue is the lack of letting people choose, I DID NOT know that the vaccine will give me the issues it has, it has basically affected my sporting life (which i had a very busy one of) by a lot and i still havent been able to get that back which in turn has also given me stress and other mental issues as Sports was a big part of my life.
I would have liked to have had the informed choice, after being told up front, this is what can happen, this is the likelihood etc. Instead of the small fine print about this apparently very low % chance of side effects, whichis just not true. I know too many of my friends who also blindly went through with the vaccines and like me, they rushed out to get them asap as they trusted the government and medical industry. Only to have issues of their own pop up.
My other gripe was when i had these issues, I had NO-one to turn to or report to, Doctors were too afraid to touch it as anyone caught openly disavowing vaccines were put into a looney bin. Especially Doctors. There was so much done for vaccine deployment, where was the organisations / information / groups of people for vaccine side effects / vaccine issues. Doctors did not know where to turn to or who to turn to. Finally I got some brave doctors once more and more information came out and they sent me to specialists etc but this was around 1 Year after I had my issues, and frankly i was told i could Have died in the first 6 months of my issues as thats when it was the worst andi had all sorts of heart issues during that period . Apparently I shouldnt have done anything strenuous or physical during that period.
What seems to also have come out is the vaccine only protects you for a short period of time, so even if we say it saved lives, do we know what would have happened when the people who passed, got vaccinated and then eventually when the potency of the vaccine went down, they got covid anyway. There is too much unanswered in this area and also too much crap was fed to people which ended up being not true at all.
Meanwhile Big Pharma made an absolute killing in profits.
@lonewolf: Ya spoilt the whole thing by saying Big Pharma.
You can never see the road not travelled but the drop in deaths was dramatic once the vaccine was out there. Also the unvaccinated were certainly dying at a higher rate than the unvaccinated when they got Covid. That is fact. It is unfortunate if you got side effects but the number of people with side effects was very small. The statistics show that people are much more likely to get heart trouble from getting Covid than the vaccine.
If you want to see what it could’ve been like look at the Spanish Flu outbreaks. No vaccine and many millions died with a much lower population base. They also went to isolation and masks to try to ameliorate.
Issues with vaccines were being reported to the Government. People could self report. There is another, larger, group of people struggling at the moment and they are the ones with long Covid. They are suffering from a myriad of symptoms that are difficult to pin down. Imagine how many more of those people would be out there without the vaccine.
I truly hope you get the answers you are seeking and they can help you. The vaccines aren’t perfect but the alternative was truly horrific.
@try2bhelpful: Again, by the time the vaccine was out, the strains had changed anyway, Like i said the first strain is what caused the most deaths , and vaccines have been shown to only work for a 4-6 week period after which they seem to taper off, almost the same length of time as getting covid meant you couldnt get it again for a certain period of time.
Sorry , Self report the side effects, Nope, I went through this for a year, I know lots of people who went through this, there was no reporting system or at least one that was laid out for people or even doctors. If doctors didnt know what to do then …. And fact of the matter is there are a lot of undiagnosed people with side effects who just live with it now.
Covid deaths also took into account a lot of other deaths as long as they also had covid, doesnt necessarily mean covid killed them.
You are saying Big Pharma didnt profit off this? Please.
@lonewolf: Honestly mate every time you say Big Pharma you cook your credibility. You know lots of people who had severe reactions to the vaccines? Funnily enough I don’t know any. You gave some very unlucky friends.
Next you will be telling me that Big Pharma released Covid so they could make a profit. Why would these guys stuff around with Covid vaccines when they can make a squillion with weight loss injections. That is where the big money is.
@try2bhelpful: haha, mate just cause you like big Pharma, doesnt matter to me, Anyone who is able to think outside the box knows about big pharma, Even a lot of medical staff talk about it these days. Actually even some people who work in pharmaceutical companies talk about some of the absolute travesties that Big Pharma do.
Check out how much money Pharmas made over the vaccines and how they were waived of all liabilities. Ozempic and Wegovy etc came out after at least popularised after and there were patents involved.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/forbesdigitalcovers/2021/05/14/…
https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2022/3/16/modernas-profit…
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/01/31/the-covid-pandemic-drives-pf…
https://www.auckland.ac.nz/en/news/2023/02/17/is-big-pharma-…
https://www.npr.org/2021/11/24/1059041725/covid-vaccines-are…
https://reliefweb.int/report/world/pfizer-biontech-and-moder…
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2022/feb/08/pfizer-covi…
https://www.oxfam.org/en/press-releases/covid-vaccines-creat…
https://www.fiercepharma.com/pharma/top-10-vaccine-companies…
https://jacobin.com/2022/05/pharmaceutical-industry-pfizer-c…
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2021/mar/06/from-pfizer…
Dont you dare to question the efficacy and safety of the flu vaccine. A vaccine that will never protect you from the flu strain of that season. Coz by the time they "capture" the flu strain, test, manufacture, logistics to store, and injection, the flu has already mutated. Vaccine by default has no fault, and the manufacturer is protected from lawsuit. Nice
Don't you feel embarrassed posting bullshit that you could easily google to see you are wrong?
Oh FFS yes the efficacy changes year to year but it's the best we have and it protects a hell of a lot of people. There's some bad faith pharmaceutical products out there but this one isn't it.
Never had any adverse reactions to either flu or Covid injections. Never had any of those injections though…
Only serious comments please
Please take over jv
I'm so sorry to hear your husband had a heart attack and it is really normal to go looking for reasons. 1/3 of all heart disease diagnoses are made at the point of heart attack though so it's likely he's fallen into that group. And seemingly perfectly healthy people can have badly clagged arteries that rupture suddenly and block off. Even in some fit people, if so genetically predisposed. Heart disease, cancer, and dementia are the leading causes of death and disability in Australia and not all of those people are having heart attacks. In people with underlying heart disease, getting influenza itself is far, far riskier for a heart attack than the vaccine. Influenza, especially flu A has many serious complications, and the vaccine for that is recommend ed for at risk people - including those with heart disease, dementia, and cancer.
Have I ever had a reaction to the flu vaccine? Yes I have, sometimes I get transient flu-like symptoms that last from a few to 24 hours, but having had flu A before and nearly landing in hospital, I'll pick the flu vaccine every time.
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Yes, everytime I get it people tell me that they never get the flu shot and never get sick. The flu shot also makes me hallucinate seeing these same people coughing and sneezing up a storm as much as everyone one else, please help!
Surely the nano bots from the COVID jab died with the injection of the flu vac.
First result from Google search
Flu vaccination has long been associated with lower rates of some cardiac events among people with heart disease, especially among those who have had a cardiac event in the past year. And that's supported by data from the latest randomized clinical trials
Here's a couple of links so that people can read for themselves:
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-023-47690-9
5 trials were looked at in this meta-analysis.
The first trial of the five was Loeb et al:
https://www.thelancet.com/action/showPdf?pii=S2214-109X%2822…
Too bad brain atrophy is only for others to see
Overweight, 60 years old, eats garbage, does 0 exercise, smokes, drinks.
Had a medical episode
Blames the flu shot.
I know people reach for straws when they are drowning but this is really getting out of hand on this site.
Like the vast number of people most the effects I get from my flu vaccine are a sore arm and feeling a bit off colour for a day or so.
Have a look at the ingredients (that might tell you all you need to know) at www.health.gov.au. Not enough people are asking what’s in the injections or side effects that come with them.
Yes and make sure you look at the concentrations of those ingredients and be sure to compare them with the concentrations that occur in the environment and food. FFS.
No. No adverse reaction to ‘flu vaccine. EXCEPT I haven’t had the life-threatening ‘flu. Have peace of mind that you have done the right thing in getting the vaccination.
Sorry to hear about your husband.
Did the doctor say your husband was healthy because your husband had extensive medical tests. Or because of a few general health checks.
Because lots of medical conditions are not picked up unless they are actually looking for something in particular.
Your husband most likely had a undiagnosed condition and the flu shot was pure coincidence.
You will just have to wait and see.
Can you get a reaction i think its possible.
I personally dont get the flu shot as i felt like i had chronic fatigue syndrome for about 3 months soon after i had my first ever flu shot.
Didnt really connect the two then the following year i had the flu shot again and again i felt i had chronic fatigue syndrome ar least what i imagined it would feel like this time for nearly 6 months.
So ive never had the flu shot again.
With the covid vaccine i declined the Astra zenica one as some components ( to my uneducated eye) are similar to the flu shot and instead choose the Pfizer vaccine.
vaccine fan boys trigger post..
Actually it has caused the anti vaxxer mob to crawl out of the woodwork. The rest of us just follow the science built up over hundreds of years on the efficacy of vaccines. Unfortunately if we don’t try to counter the anti vaxxer nonsense then some people will listen to them and die. Antivaxxers are people who don’t understand how statistics, and science, works. They believe nonsense from people who have found a way to monetise wilful stupidity.
You talk about science as if all scientists agree on one thing and have a singular opinion. Although I suspect that it is the opinion of a leftist government that you really care about.
Actually I’m looking at the opinion of the vast majority of scientists. Nothing to do with Governments. Your moniker says everything we need to know.
Can you not post this divisive shite? Stop politicising healthcare.
Please review your username. It doesn’t match the hateful comment you wrote about people who don’t line up for every injection.
Look at what I was replying to. The trouble is rightwingers excuse whatever their own people say and whine about “lefties”. You think my comment was hateful? You must really have troubles with what Trump says then.
Please review your username. It doesn’t match the hateful comment you wrote about people who don’t line up for every injection.
In my opinion, try2bhelpful is a good person. There's a very good explanation here:
@mrdean: I'm not sure about the good person bit. I would say that she is one of these people that is scared of the world and sees the group as her strength. The group fiercely defends itself and polices any original thought or decent from its members. Enemies of the group are silenced using force and violence.
It's true she could be one of these useful idiot types that believes in making a better world but I'd doubt it.
@OBEY YOUR MASTERS: I don’t care if you guys think I’m a “good person”. What I am is a logical person that random idiots on the internet can’t manipulate. Funny how the rightwingers try to push their own traits on to others. I’m the one following the science and logic. You are the guys scuttling to the dark corners of the internet who deal in paranoia. Have a good look in the mirror guys. Reread your own posts they aren’t doing your arguments any good.
Group think has never been my strength. If it was I wouldn’t have gone straight STEM at school and got into IT in the 80s. What I don’t do is disengage my brain when I type.
OP, your husband also drank water that day, and had breakfast. Both of those could have been causes of it.
Correlation =/= causation
number of pirates is correlated with global warming.
just saying