Howdy
One of the most requested product deals is back. We have a large volume of Surface Pro 7's available and I've done a once off EOFY price on them.
The sale will end Sunday or until stock sells out.
Surface Pro 7
Intel Core i5 1035G5 1.10Ghz
8Gb Ram
128Gb SSD
12.3” PixelSense™ Display
Windows 11
12 Month Warranty
Units include keyboards, please note that these are Alcantara keyboards and will show signs of previous use.
No sorry
does this come with proprietary charger or standard usb-c please?
Usb c
I too incorrectly negged this answer. After seeing The Terratronie's response and looking it up, I now know easternculture is correct. Sorry about that.
The Surface Pro 7 does have a USB C port with PD 2.0 charging.
Yeah, but the question was what it comes with, and they ship with a surface charger
It can charge via USB-C but they only come with a surface charger standard
Surface Charger
any upcoming deals for the surface laptops?
No sorry, we really don't see surface laptops in any significant quantity.
I dont think this version charges throigh USB-C
Incorrect! This has USB-C and can confirm charges via USB-C 28W ugreen charger and my 60W charger and usb-c cable with power indicator oled screen
Yeah my bad. I had the Pro 6 and it didn't have it. Bad assumption.
FYI, on older Surface models, you can easily add an adaptor or cable for usb-C charging. And it only needs 15V, so works with those $15 "22.5W" powerbanks.
https://www.aliexpress.com/i/1005002147237393.html
But 8GB not upgradable. Who do they think they are? Apple? Meh, it is enough for most purposes.
"SURFACE CHARING" 🔥
Thanks for that product. May get one for myself.
I am however a little dubious when they also sell a "102W" version. Found another seller for the same product that has more details on its page than the one you linked:
- Using PD decoy chip. 6.8A current, added to the era of fast charging, to solve the problem of model compatibility and stable performance
So they're using a fake chip to achieve 102W? Or they're faking a 6.8A chip to be able to pull a little more current to make up for shoddy components causing fluctuations? (" to solve the problem of model compatibility and stable performance")
In the same breath they specify both
Power: 102w
and
- The power supply must meet two requirements at the same time: 1 PD power supply must be 15V / 3A output;
15V 3A = 45W, not 102W.
6.8A x 15V = 102W, but they've already admitted to that chip being fake…?
Add to this that (to my knowledge) most (all?) PD chargers deliver high wattages by increasing the voltage, not the current (i.e. up to 48V @ 5A = 240W)
Hah! Found yet another listing that has "Please allow 1-2cm measuring deviation due to manual measurement."… one to two centimetres???
Take the specs on Chinese sites with a cup of salt.
The decoy chip will be rated at 6.8A . What do you mean by calling it fake?
They don't do any voltage conversion, just negotiation and switching.
PD chargers deliver high wattages by increasing the voltage, not the current
I don't think you understand them at all. The client and server negotiate a voltage and max current. The client then draws whatever current it needs, up to that limit.
In this case, the adapter requests 15V, and hopes the laptop does not try to draw more than the charger can deliver. That will be less than 3A. I have been using a 30W PD charger, no problems.
Take the specs on Chinese sites with a cup of salt.
Aware.
The decoy chip will be rated at 6.8A . What do you mean by calling it fake?
They don't do any voltage conversion, just negotiation and switching.
Poor wording on my part. Are they overrating the PD chip in the adapter to make up for shoddy workmanship in the adapter so that it can pull more but still deliver the required current to the Surface? Or is it to allow the adapter to pull up to 6.8A to account for charging requirements of the various Surface devices (do any of them pull more than 3A?).
I don't think you understand them at all. The client and server negotiate a voltage and max current. The client then draws whatever current it needs, up to that limit.
Yes, I know that the specified current is not an actual output but a max output, and that they chat about what voltage to use and any current limit (and that these values can change during the charging cycle). My point was more regarding that they call it a 102W adapter but then recommend using a 45W charger?
Is the 6.8A chip in the adapter faking to the USB charger or to the Surface device?
@Chandler: 6.8A is presumably the number that comes from the chip supplier.
That would come with conditions, but none of it matters because the Surface will never draw more than the adaptor can handle.
The "102W" is just gibberish. Ignore it. The product will work fine.
128gb not enough due to the difficulty of upgrading components in surface pro
Don't the newer models have the ssd slot behind the stand now?
Apparently Surface Pro 7 has an SD Card slot
I think every version going at least back to the SP3 does
@HunterBargainHunter: Re-read krisspy's question. "ssd". SD card slots are slower and more prone to failure than a proper SSD.
@HunterBargainHunter: It appears we both made the same reading mistake. this is why capitalisation is important ;)
I think my comment is largely correct:
Every Surface Pro going back to the SP3 has an SD Card slot, with the exception of LTE surfaces which have a SIM as a replacement.
correct and thats why its only $399 .. I paid $450 on ebay 6 months ago and thought this was a bargan with USB-C port
happly runs windows 11 and Remote Desktop to my server and gaming pc.. so its just a nice glorified 500g iPad thats not locked down.
planing on running Ubuntu 24.04 on this later with 512gb SD card in the back ;)
What's battery life like
Min 80%
Anything available with higher RAM and SSD?
Yes ^^ I would pay extra for 16GB
Not that I can do with the discounting at the moment.
@OZBsince2018: hard part is finding any of them thats been decomishioned as companys would have a huge supply of base models … so
2000, with 8gb ram and 128gb ssd is the norm for 2016
What's the average battery life (as in hours of usage) from a single charge?
I'm considering getting one for a high schooler, and whether it will make it through the day for class work and note taking.
12 Month warranty? Don't believe these scammers, they won't honour a defect that meets their return policy.
Bought a laptop last year that had a ruined hinge after 2 months of normal use and they refuse to do anything, serves me right for not using paypal.
Thanks for letting us know, was about to get one, saving my $400 being possibly throw into the drain.
I'd suggest reading the rest of the thread before making that call.
Personally, I have purchased a device from them that after some time had a hardware fault (keyboard stopped working properly). Was a bit of a pain getting in contact with them - which could have been contributed by my timing when calling them (lunch time, usually). Once I actually got in touch with someone, was a pretty easy process.
This should be much higher up.
Plus no official rep responding to this.
Perhaps file a report on the deal?
Perhaps file a report on the deal?
On what grounds? None of your complaints are valid for reporting the post, in my opinion.
More then happy to look into this is for you send message me the details.
I was told repeatedly on ebay that "Thanks for reaching out again, however our warranty does not cover physical damage."
I quoted your warranty policy in my response: "Our warranty covers items which are not functional due to a specific hardware fault. This applies to all components, including fans, hard drives, keyboards, touchpads, LCD panels, hinges, USB ports, unless specifically excluded."
Before I was ultimately ghosted.
I just opened the laptop one day and the hinge mounting point behind the screen snapped and popped the screen out of place.
I will send you a message, and will happily amend my post if this can be resolved. I don't like having to call out a business like this, but I feel I was left without a choice
Most hinges pop/snap from people opening laptops holding the screen and then letting it fold open using the full weight of the bottom.
It is a common issue and usually caused by people being rough with them.
I would call this physical damage.
@Lichen6420: I certainly wouldn't open a laptop that way, but I imagine most laptops would survive it unless excessive force was applied. It would also be near-impossible to prove that a laptop was opened in that way.
Happy to look into the details if you can send it through.
I can see why it may have been flagged as physical damage though.
It makes sense if it was a manufacturing defect and it happened with-in the first year, however, we are now talking 3~4 years later and also a couple of months after receiving the purchase.
@Calmago: The item is listed as having a 12 month warranty. This should cover any issues that arise through normal use. It shouldn't matter whether it was a couple of months after receiving the purchase… it's covered by a stated 12 month warranty against "any unexpected hardware failures".
If offering a warranty on used goods, you need to inspect the items and ensure they are in satisfactory condition. As a seller, you are offering this warranty, so you are taking on the responsibility of ensuring the item is in a satisfactory state to withstand normal use for the period of the warranty. You are, in effect, taking on the same obligations as a manufacturer would have with a new product.
It's entirely possible that the hinge may have been weakened by misuse by a previous owner, or by a manufacturing defect that led to gradual hinge failure. The hinge could then fail through normal use, and would need to be covered under warranty.
It could also be due to misuse or abuse by the buyer, but you would need to prove this by inspecting the product, rather than just presuming it to be the case.
This should cover any issues that arise through normal use.
No. Warranty is against defects, not wear-and-tear. Furthermore, ACT explicitly excludes physical damage. Suggest you read https://www.australiancomputertraders.com.au/returns-policy/
Warranty Exceptions
The following are not covered under warranty:
- Physical Damage
- Accidental Damage
- Software Issues
- Data Recovery
Secondly, suggest you read https://consumer.gov.au/sites/consumer/files/inline-files/ac…, specifically the section on "Service statements and second‑hand goods".
If offering a warranty on used goods, you need to inspect the items and ensure they are in satisfactory condition.
Did you inspect the items upon receipt and ensure they were in a satisfactory condition? Going by your comments so far, you used the product for at least a number of months, so it wasn't in an unsatisfactory condition when it was given to you…
It's entirely possible that the hinge may have been weakened by misuse by a previous owner, or by a manufacturing defect that led to gradual hinge failure. The hinge could then fail through normal use, and would need to be covered under warranty.
It could also be due to misuse or abuse by the buyer, but you would need to prove this by inspecting the product, rather than just presuming it to be the case.
… which I assume is one reason why ACT exclude physical damage from warranty. No need to inspect a fault on an excluded item.
A reasonable consumer expects a second‑hand good to have been used before even though there may not be a good understanding of its history of usage. This previous use means that a reasonable consumer would expect a second‑hand good to last less time than the same good purchased new.
A refurbished good is one that contains some second‑hand parts, but has had some parts replaced, and is in good working order at the time of purchase. For example, a refurbished laptop could be a second hand laptop that has had the hard drive and battery replaced with new parts.
Given the current age of the device, do you think the OEM would provide warranty on the hinges? If not, why are you expecting ACT to do so? Do you think they refurbish the chassis of the devices they sell (apart from maybe giving them a clean)?
@Chandler: The vendor website declares that their products have a 12 month warranty against “any unexpected hardware failures" for customer peace of mind.
The vendor chooses to advertise this. They can’t then say that they won’t honour it.
Physical damage due to customer misuse is obviously not covered by any warranty. But defects due to existing problems need to be covered - otherwise the warranty is worthless. And a failure in the laptop hinge is a hardware failure by definition.
I don’t know what happened in this particular instance, with this particular item, as I wasn’t the customer, but I certainly stand with customers being protected in such cases on principle.
@axyh: Hardware when discussing about a computer is usually in reference to the electronics: hard drive, RAM, screen, etc. A broken hinge would be hard to prove as a "failure", especially on an old second-hand device. It's already had a long and fruitful life. Like I ended my previous comment with:
Given the current age of the device, do you think the OEM would provide warranty on the hinges? If not, why are you expecting ACT to do so? Do you think they refurbish the chassis of the devices they sell (apart from maybe giving them a clean)?
@Chandler: I worked in IT for 30 years. Housing and hinges are listed as hardware items for ordering FRUs, and are listed in the hardware section of service manuals. Hinges would also be considered hardware by the common English usage of the term.
If only electronics are covered, the warranty should be listed specifically as "12 month warranty against failure of electronic components".
@axyh: Fair points, and agreed.
Still: given the current age of the device, do you think the OEM should/would provide warranty on the hinges? If not, why are you expecting ACT to do so? Do you think they refurbish the chassis of the devices they sell (apart from maybe giving them a clean)?
@Chandler: They are offering, and advertising, a warranty as a value-add service to entice people to buy from them. Additionally, they charge $95 to extend this warranty to 24 months.
This warranty is clearly stated as covering: "any hardware defects that may arise under normal usage conditions. If you encounter any issues with your refurbished computer's hardware during this period, simply return it to us. We will repair or replace the device at no additional cost to you. This warranty is designed to give you peace of mind, ensuring that you're protected against any unexpected hardware failures".
If this warranty is limited by the age of the device, then it doesn't really cover "any issues … during this period". It doesn't provide "peace of mind, ensuring you are protected against hardware failures". It doesn't do what it says on the tin. And if it only covers manufacturing defects, not defects related to the age of the device, then why would anyone pay an extra $95 for an additional 12 months coverage?
This is a value-added service provided by the retailer that differentiates its offering from random used products off eBay. It specifically covers "any hardware defects that may arise" (note the word "arise", this means it covers new defects that emerge, not just existing ones). It's stated that this exists to provide "peace of mind". If it doesn't cover existing wear-and-tear on the item, how does it do this?
To be clear, I haven't purchased from this company, and have no experience with their service, but it seems to me that the wording on their website is unambiguous.
@Calmago: Crazy that hinges are even listed as one of the items covered for 12 months but if they do fail then it's all "nah man not possible they could fail unless you broke them"
Opposite to my experience. Had a laptop come with a battery less than the claimed amount, painless process to get a brand new (genuine) battery.
So they don't even check that the battery is at the minimum health they claim before shipping it out? These guys sound like a joke tbh.
Things happen, people overlook stuff.
The main thing is the fixed it very painlessly, and I got a laptop in as new condition with a brand new battery for a very good price.
Somehow, my recent two consecutive orders (a Philips monitor grade A, a Surface 5 Pro) from them both have noticeable deep scratch and/or bright spots on the display (non-cosmetic defects). It would have been easy and quick for them to identify before shipping.
To be fair, an USFF Dell that I bought from them in 2018 is still doing well, and I'm using it to type this reply.
Still waiting to hear back from them regarding the monitor. Surface Pro issue was resolved but not ideal, for me at least.
Hi OP, Could you please outline the refurbishment process undertaken with these devices?
What do you reckon they do to sealed units mate? Lol. Wipe it down.
I can't comment on specific units, but the overall is below
https://www.australiancomputertraders.com.au/our-refurbishme…
https://www.australiancomputertraders.com.au/blog/australian…
At least need 256gb to be usable..even 256 still struggle
This has an SD card slot and a lot of people (not everyone) are fine with 128GB.
The majority of people don’t need much storage - the majority don’t play installed games, don’t run 10 apps at once, don’t store much video etc.
Us nerds generally need more resources. But as a fellow nerd, I’ve got a 128GB unit and it’s fine - it gives me access to cloud storage.
But the majority of people couldn’t tell you what CPU or RAM mean. We’re not the majority.
would this be any good to play a movie while camping. Ie is the screen any good, does it have an ok viewing angle. Would I get 2hrs out of the battery playing a movie ? Will i get stuttering in high action scenes ?
This screen is good for camping. It's also can be used as a chopping board or use the corners as a makeshift trowel
What refurbish grade is this? And what would the battery life be on this.
Rep replied above, min 80%.
The stated grade in the link is "Refurbished - Grade A".
However, there is no mention of which parts were replaced in the refurbishment, and it is stated that the item will contain signs of wear.
This simply sounds like a used product to me. Refurbishment, by definition, requires any worn parts to be replaced to restore a "like new" condition. It appears the term is (once again) being misused, as is often the case with used equipment.
Is this good upgrade from SP5 i7/8gb/256GB? Use it for some Words and Excel and mainly browsing. The SP5 battery is 30% only :(
Love the SP5 but the battery is not great anymore.
I would love to know as well. I have sp5
Yeah same here. Bought it in a previous deal on here last year sometime. Not sure whether it's worth the "upgrade" looking at the specs. 8GB ram is still too little for me. Minimum 16GB on my next one.
I bought a machine from a previous deal and the battery was below 80%. I made a request to return it and they accepted it right away. The return process was painless.
What was the battery for you and did you get a new replacement? Also with 80% how many hours can you still get with it?
I'm looking for something for online teaching that sometimes requires handwriting - mathematics formulae etc
I find writing on an external digital pad horrible, and I read these surface devices are essentially the best handwriting experience
This seems ideal for me, anything I should be wary of?
Word processing, PDF, video chat i.e. zoom would be the most demanding program I use.
How quick can this ship to NSW?
Do we look like garbage cans ?
Nah looks like nice racks to me
Too expensive to be interested
[Opened] Microsoft Surface Pro 7 13" 1866 - i5 1035G4/8GB RAM/256GB SSD/Touchscreen $350.22 Delivered @ Compnowclearance eBay
https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/816903
That one sold out within a few minutes of posting on OzB!
Good deal.
Personally I went for a yoga ultrabook over these when I was looking, upgradeable storage, don't have to pay extra for KB, almost as portable.
I actually bought it from these guys, and have other items before, they're good operators in my experience.
I am interested in the 16GB version of Surface 7. Does it come with discount coupon?
Waiting for your reply
How much sans keyboard?
I've added the discount code to a couple more variations
We have a limited number of the 256Gb Version
https://www.australiancomputertraders.com.au/microsoft-surfa…
Also added it to the B Grade Version - These units will have minor LCD burn and/ or battery between 49~79%
https://www.australiancomputertraders.com.au/microsoft-surfa…
https://www.australiancomputertraders.com.au/microsoft-surfa…
Will there also provide the keyboard for the 256Gb version?
Yes
thankyou. was hoping the 256gb one came up. order placed
Was interested in getting the 256Gb one but not able to add to cart. Do you have any more available?
Only interested in the A Grade refurbish
Can you please let me know with the battery at 80% min charge, how many hours are we expected to have for standard use? I just want to confirm before i purchase.
Getting mixed results when researching. Have two queries.
thanks
@bargaino posted a comment above suggesting a third-party adapter that takes a USB-C input.
Regarding direct USB-C charging, according to the details I've found if it has a USB-C port you can charge via it:
For Surface devices that have a USB-C port, you can choose to charge your device using that port with a USB Type-C PD charger.
If true, then just need to ensure your USB-C supply can output the required power, which looks to be 60W (15V @ 4A) at most.
How is the battery life?
I've got a surface pro 5, now everything is still OK but the battery is unstable, can't work without chargers.
Oh, no worries, saw your comments. Gonna buy one.
Can rep or others recommend an official stylus or comment on a cheap nonofficial one that does all the same things?
Rennaiser 520c seems like the one, Amazon, 50aud
my experience. purchased the surface pro 5 from them last year. stopped working a week ago. 1 month out of the warranty space. used at home mainly on desk, occasional trips to work in laptop case.
cheers -E-
Hi Mate
Will the keyboard be provided for 16GB, 256GB? what about discount?
![[Refurb] Microsoft Surface Pro 7 Intel i5 1035G4 1.10GHz 8GB 128GB SSD + Keyboard $399 Delivered @ Australian Computer Traders](https://files.ozbargain.com.au/n/38/850938.jpg?h=5b902bfb)
Would you have this offer via eBay too?