Make It Difficult for People in Their Lives and They Get Vaccinated

During a House Select Subcommittee on the Coronavirus hearing Monday, Rep. Rich McCormick (R-GA) questioned Dr. Fauci on a statement on vaccine requirements he made during a recorded interview.

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“It’s been proven that when you make it difficult for people in their lives, they lose their ideological bullshit, and they get vaccinated.” Official Quote by Anthony Stephen Fauci

Note: When Fauci says proven, he is clearly referring to the science behind psychological manipulating the public. He says he is a man of science, so people should hold him to that.

Just a few years ago Fauci was crowning himself as the "King of Science". This includes the famous quote where he stated that if you disagree with him, you are disagreeing with science.

It might be your first time hearing these shocking comments by Fauci, but this is him behind the mask.

So what does it mean for Australia?

Undoubtedly these same types of scientific types of people that rise to the top of bureaucratic government positions all over the world. I suspect that this is because most people they grow up in school and they think science is easy. Students just repeat what is in the textbook and they score high marks because they can regurgitate facts and memorise a formula. By the way if you didn't realise, that is not real science and just shows how poorly structured the current educational system is as it emphasises the regurgitation of facts.

People forget the Therapeutic Goods Administration is not an independent organisation. There is nothing special about the people inside that organisation, maybe they learned a few extra years of some topic at university and I hope they at least are at a standard to which they have written a thesis which is basically a long essay on a specialised topic. Some thesis papers are absolutely garbage in my opinion. But most importantly it reveals that these types of people are just ordinary people. They are just government workers to be more specific. They know very little and more critically they especially know nothing about a new pandemic. They know nothing more than the average citizen. Governments should not be given the right to control how people behave in a pandemic.

The problem is this lack of knowledge is not just constrained to scientists, but humans in general. I have met many barristers and solicitors, even former judges. Believe it or not sometimes cannot even recall the facts of a case I mention or recall key legislation in their field of expertise after a bit of uhm and ahing. If you told me if I remembered some facts of an obscure case I would probably tell you, "I am not sure myself, I believe it was something involving some type of snail-like object in the bottle, but I would not commit myself to that". However, you will often notice that because of the immunity granted to bureaucrats that they will not be frank and honest with you about what they don't know. This is why you cannot trust the government.

This is why it is my opinion that the public should focus on replacing government with uncensored artificial intelligence. People should not be scared of it. This is the reality that faces us and I don't see why the public puts so much emphasis on the government to protect its citizens when it is basically not well equipped to do any such thing. For example, the government cannot represent the people properly because the number of representatives does not account for the growth in the population. Even if representation somehow worked at the time when the Constitution was written, it clearly no longer functions as it was intended to. Has the number of senators and representatives increased by 7x in line with population growth? No it has not, representation has gone backwards to a tune of 7x. Even if you believed the government worked for the good of the people, you cannot deny that the representation has been watered down so much. I am not saying that would fix the issues immediately as there are core problems with the existence of government.

If it were a real pandemic then everyone would be clamouring to get vaccinated (provided that vaccine worked and did not have an even higher death rate than the disease it was preventing) and those foolish people who remain unvaccinated, pardon my words, will be left to rely on their natural immunity. I am sure many of the people within the anti-vax movement understand this core principle.

Bill Gates is a kind of famous oracle and he states that another type of pandemic will happen again. Time and time again his predictions/wisdom ironically seems to come true. Apparently the cusp of another Bird Flu Pandemic is here.

Ask yourself: Are you going to make the same choices next time?

Would you honestly take another experimental bird flu vaccine?

Comments

                  • +1

                    @mrdean: What people do not realise is that all that money has been taken away from other government services like hospitals, schools, roads, infrastructure, housing, etc.
                    So the people are actually paying for the "free" useless vaccine.

                    • @Mad Max: The idea is to get western governments into debt so that they won't be able to pay back. Make no mistake, bankers control the western world. They have been plundering treasuries for a long time, & the last four years has been an unprecedented feeding frenzy.

    • +1

      Do you drink any alcoholic beverages? Then you're consuming very small amounts of formaldehyde on a regular basis. And I bet it's far more than the residual amounts found in a vaccination.

      • Typical unscientific response, assuming ingesting, breathing or INJECTING a substance has the same effect.

        • +2

          Well actually, they can. It all comes down to its bioavailability. And vaccinations are not injected into blood vessels, they're injected into the muscle. Formaldehyde has been used to treat radiation induced proctitis at much higher concentrations.

          Formaldehyde when managed safely, is safe. As always, the dose makes the poison.

  • +1

    Antivaxxers are good for my income. I gotta give them credit for that at least.

    • how?

      • +1

        Let's see what the crazies can come up with. Won't take too many guesses.

        • +4

          Industrial grad aluminum foil importer?

        • Umm some type of role that involves access to information or an HR officer or employment lawyer?

        • We should poll this.

          Big pharma
          Bonuses for writing covid on death certificates
          Big pharma
          Big government
          Big pharma

          • @MessyG: Big pharma shares like Pfizer were good early 2022. All these antivaxxers I can thank for raising awareness.

            That's not the whole picture though. The sad truth is more covid cases was beneficial.

      • Funeral director

  • +4

    Gotta love that anti-vax/anti-mask sentiment.
    I refuse to take vaccines from the government to prevent me getting sick, but will demand they pay my medical bills when I inevitably do!
    I refuse to wear a mask because they are ineffective, but will kick up a fuss if my surgeon doesn't wear one when I'm under the knife!

    • -2

      What the hell are you on about? If you don't know what you're talking about, don't type.

  • -3

    I see the same people barking the same rubbish from last time? Like you guys are true NPCs, I'll leave this here for people like SBOB:

    https://www.nationalreview.com/news/dr-fauci-could-not-recal…

    And the article now appearing everywhere:
    https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/cov…

    Don't let these ignorant people tell you otherwise. Same people who will destroy humanity. They disgust me.

    If they could think or read they would have seen this vaccine was no where near ready. But that's what they do, probably paid to brainwash you.

    • +1

      The article is the usual attempt at damage control. They lead with the results from the study, then downplay it in the second half by reinforcing the notion that "“There is no credible evidence to suggest that Covid-19 vaccines have contributed to excess deaths in Australia or overseas,” the Health Department said in its submission."

      The MSM is in no way going to tell people the truth.

      • -1

        lol, exactly, like they're going to say, oops, we just killed 80 million people, LOL YOLO. It's mainly for NPCs that you see here who are regularly brainwashed by the propaganda. Can't see the Matrix. Just protect your fam my man, let these guys get fed the rubbish. As they use to say, natural selection. Smart ones will survive and not get affected by it.

    • -1

      What is an NPC?

      • -1

        They're people. The most commentary these people have to offer revolves around the weather. It’s almost like they aren’t consciously even there. They’re just kind of running on a script. They're side characters that lack of critical thinking, as well as cognitive dissonance, a lack of empathy, and a lack of passion and intrigue for higher concepts.

    • Always love a good name drop :)
      Especially when it's rare the dropper can point to one of my posts that's so "pro" whatever it is I'm meant to be the cheerleader for or being "paid" to brainwash about.
      Seems its usually just that I previously pointed out something 'less than intelligent' they post, rather than screaming from the soapbox for their opposing side.

      tips hat
      Hey RocketSwitch

  • +1

    Sure, if it means not going homeless, I'll get it.
    If it's actually proven to work.

    I managed to claim close to $11,000 in compo for my third covid vax, first 2 were fine but I got Pfizer third.
    Didn't benefit me because I didn't profit.

    I'm happy to skip it, even though I have never got covid I'd much rather have compared to what I've gone through.

    Prior to this, I was all for the vax and the first 2 were completely fine, I'd argue with anti vaxxers online, to be fair most of them are cooked qAnon-style people that have conspiracies. I just think it was unfit and not tested enough for humans, which we won't get without trials and years of monitoring.

    Ultimately it is what it is though and if it was a net positive it's a good thing.

  • +1

    Respectfully, I think you're wrong.

  • +2

    Your entire post just reads of some unsophisticated critique of the status quo. The reality (whether you like it or not) is that our system of government and our societal structures have given us the wealth and prosperity we have today.

    If not for the system of democratic government which we've built on since enlightened times, you would not be sitting in front of a computer writing out your opinions on an online forum. You would be doing some combination of hiding in a cave somewhere, trying to fight wild animals to hunt food, or perhaps, becoming a yummy dinner for a tiger somewhere.

    Obviously I'm for critiquing specific government actions - at the end of the day, they represent us, and it is important that we exercise our will. However, the criticism of "government" as an idea is patently stupid. The reality is that anti-government types are protected by governments - try living without public infrastructure, laws, and the benefits of decades of "reasonable" governance has given us. If we did not live in a society of law and order (enforced by the will of the people), the loudest dissenting voices would be taken out first.

    The entire basis on which you're able to say what you're saying today is our system of government protects your speech and protects your right to have your opinion.

    If it were a real pandemic then everyone would be clamouring to get vaccinated (provided that vaccine worked and did not have an even higher death rate than the disease it was preventing) and those foolish people who remain unvaccinated, pardon my words, will be left to rely on their natural immunity. I am sure many of the people within the anti-vax movement understand this core principle.

    They were - over 90% of people in Australia got the COVID vaccine. This is a huge number, it's more than the percentage of people who can drive, who completed high school, who have ever been on a plane…etc.

    At all of my vaccination appointments, there were lines stretching from the centre all the way to the carpark with wait times of over 2 hours in the summer heat. If standing around on a 30+ degree day to get vaccinated is not "clamouring to get vaccinated" then I don't know what is.

    Ask yourself: Are you going to make the same choices next time?

    Yes

    Would you honestly take another experimental bird flu vaccine?

    Yes

  • +4

    Not this sh1te again - don't you people get sick of the sound of your own voices?

    I'm a right-wing libertarian. I believe in the power of the individual over the collective. Make your own decisions and live by them. You're anti-vax, that's cool and more power to you - but please don't spout your nonsense to try and influence others. That's bollox, let people make their own decisions - and live by them.

    Personally, I'm pro-vaccination and I had my covid shots, but I was against vaccination mandates - and still am. Personal choice that I know many others will disagree with but there it is.

  • +2

    COVID-19 was just a example of Australians psyche.

    No one "forced nor induced" to buy toilet paper.
    But they did. In hordes, unashamedly.

    It will happen again, no one changed.
    Pointless to fantasize differently.

    • I think you'll find that the bog roll 'panic' was a global phenomenon, not just an Australian thing.

      But you're right, it will happen again - just as it's always done.

    • C19 was proof that people are very, very, very set in their ways
      and will never learn, nor spend their life trying to unlearn.

      There are those who see;
      there are those who don't see;
      there are those who don't see,
      when they are shown.

      • It just shows people are easily programmed and manipulated and coerced into doing things they otherwise wouldn't through FEAR. Most lack critical thinking skills and courage to not follow the demands of authority when there was clearly inconsistencies with the information and messaging.

  • +3

    I'm quite happy with the microchip that Bill Gates slipped into the vaccine. my 5G reception has never been better.👍

    • +2

      I'm still trying to work out if covid was the depopulation plan, or the vaccine was the depopulation plan, and whether or not they find tracking me around Myers was good value for money.

      • The mRNA creates a kind of OS platform inside your body,
        and then like your smartphone, different 'apps' can be placed on this OS
        and/or different strains of viruses know which 'triggers' to push,
        to get an immune response from the body.

        So, like a lock & key, ie. each virus variant interacts/unlocks the body in different ways,
        and this is why some people are falling sick more than others.

        PS:
        I saw a small documentary, from before C19 times,
        where excited Micro$oft researchers talked about mRNA like a software map for the human body.

        • share the link for the doco. otherwise it's just an hilarious statement.

          • +1

            @mjuice7: Moderna Tal Zak's hacking the software of life.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHB2bLILAvM&t=22s

            • @mrdean: thx. interesting talk. you got it from the internet.🤔👍

          • +1

            @mjuice7: The hilarity is that all reality MUST have a URL,
            otherwise it cannot exist in this world outside of the clutches of a search engine.

            The internet was being used in late 1970s and 1980s for defence and military purposes,
            but when I talked about the Internet in early 1990s, people looked at me, like a weirdo…
            … not realising a time where everything in the 'future' will change.

            I digress.

            I think it's the video of the "DNA Programmers" that is embedded here:
            https://tapnewswire.com/2021/03/microsoft-2016-we-can-progra…

            You can also read more about it, on this page:
            https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-03-08-plot-to-turn-human-dn…

            You don't need to believe everything is real or true,
            but that everything has a possibility and probability of being true.
            Sometimes, many incriminating videos are also removed from online sources,
            just like books were removed or burnt from libraries.

            Example:
            These videos were also removed from YT, where I saw them a couple of years ago,
            ie. the "hidden-camera" expose of the Pf1zer staff (I forget the name of the African American guy),
            that was caught over a restaurant meal last year,
            in that Pr0ject Ver1tas sting, saying that Pf1zer was experimenting/creating variants , after the worldwide success of its jabs.
            That guy realised that he was in hidden camera, divulging secrets,
            and then began to get aggressive, violent and started to cry as well.
            Pf1zer quickly issued an official statement on their website,
            to confirm they indeed experiment/create variants for 'research',…
            BUT everyone else (eg. Merck, etc.) also created variants,
            so this is nothing unusual and is part of the 'research' they do, for their products.
            This caused such an impact, that soonafter this, the Proj3ct V3eritas head,
            had his reputation tarnished and mysterious forces got him booted from that company/organization.

            • @whyisave: "all reality most have a url otherwise it can't exist".🤔 isn't all the stuff you've cited from the internet? maybe it all comes down to which rabbit hole you find yourself in & what passes the believably test to you.

              • @mjuice7:

                isn't all the stuff you've cited from the internet?

                My point was, that I mentioned:
                - I watched "a" documentary
                - the documentary was from a time before C-19

                Based only on these bits of information, I was asked to find you a link,
                which means you presumed I could only watch documentaries online,
                OTHERWISE my statement would be a 'hilarious statement' by your standard.

                So, I had to see if the video existed at a URL that I could share with you,
                because originally, I did not watch the documentary via HTTP.

                It seems that most people's rabbit-hole is the actual Internet, and they're so far down that hole,
                they won't realize that the Internet is a small part of reality (or not even), but reality is not a part of the internet.

                You know when you see managers talk over a coffee or politicians have dinners with business people,…
                …is because they ENSURE that their conspiring stays offline (oh no!…conspiring = conspiracy)
                and their offline dealings are not recorded in anyway to be online.

                That means people hide their affairs offline,…and what if someone saw or heard this happen?
                how is a society meant to get a URL to something they witnessed ,
                otherwise, it becomes a defamation lawsuit.

                It's an interesting situation now, because most MPs in AU FedGov are using WhatsApp to communicate,
                and using encrypted apps to hide discussions, etc… and for the purpose of democracy,
                this has become an issue, because FOI requests have problems dealing with transnational company legalities, etc.

    • Lots of people who made those smug comments about microchips had a case of SADS.

      It's best for all of us to stay humble, … Amen.

      • lots of people eh?🤔 you've obviously got numbers from reputable sources to back up your statement or are you just channeling the right wing nutjob brigade?🤣

        • I've seen their FB profiles or Twitter posts,
          that said similar things, and acting very proud and smug,
          about getting the shot…and then months later,
          their family or friends or relatives, saying that they lost that person
          to mysterious 'sudden death', 'doctors being baffled', etc.

          So, in spite of smug comments,
          spreading a message to stay humble is not "channeling right wing nutjob brigading".

          • @whyisave: i wouldn't regard faecesbook or twatter as reliable sources of info. lots of hilarious rw nutjobs on both. i remember having a back & forth with some idiot on twatter about covid vaccination at the height of the covid crisis. from memory he/she went by the handle of proud old soldier with a profile pic of an old geezer. he/she was trying to convince everyone vaccinations were bad. when asked whether he/she had had vaccinations as a service person he/she didn't have a comeback argument. i know i had vaccinations when i served. i then became a bot to him/her. notice i stated him/her because anyone can be anyone on the internet can't they. some people that may or may not have been vaccinated have passed away, but using your own argument that doctors couldn't find the cause of death how do you then assert it was from the covid vaccine? seems you're not into vaccinations. you do you. I'm ok with being vaccinated & as I've stated before my 5G reception is fantastic!🤣

            • @mjuice7:

              doctors couldn't find the cause of death how do you then assert it was from the covid vaccine?

              We don't know what it is, but we know what it isn't.

              s I've stated before my 5G reception is fantastic!

              Sounds like a smoker, who keeps telling me,
              why should I stop smoking?, … I haven't got lung cancer yet!
              (PS: This person got the jab too and also says smoking is the reason,
              the covid virus didn't get to them…ever )

              • +1

                @whyisave: "we don't know what it is, but we know what it isn't".🤣 who? your fellow conspiracy theorists on faecesbook/twatter? thx for the good belly laugh.👍🤣

                • +1

                  @mjuice7:

                  "we don't know what it is, but we know what it isn't".🤣 who? your fellow conspiracy theorists on faecesbook/twatter? thx for the good belly laugh.👍🤣

                  Medical person would say something like that, to a person in a wheelchair, after a leg amputation,
                  but somehow OzB forum posters are telling that wheelchair-bound person after their first jab:
                  <insert snide, mocking tone> "who said? your fellow conspiracists?"
                  Why be insensitive towards victims of any jabs, let alone the most highest profiled one ?

                  PS:
                  By the way, I have NEVER negged any comments on these Forums.

            • +1

              @mjuice7:

              i wouldn't regard faecesbook or twatter as reliable sources of info.

              I don't use either of them, anyway.

              i wouldn't regard faecesbook or twatter as reliable sources of info.

              I agree with you, because you could have been interacting with a bot,
              because bots were intentionally deployed to spout the opposite narrative as well.
              If someone knows about this, their NDA would prevent them talking about it.

              but using your own argument that doctors couldn't find the cause of death how do you then assert it was from the covid vaccine?

              what do you mean by using your "own argument" ?

              I am implying that a term like SADS was been created
              here - https://www.baker.edu.au/health-hub/sudden-cardiac-death

              to catch all the sudden instances of an outcome,
              that has no cause identified yet (hence, why it's a 'syndrome'),
              and no cause may ever be known, because post-mortems
              cannot always be carried out due to cultural, social norms.

              also, when do I assert it was "from the cov!d jab" ?
              i was asserting to stay humble, than to be smug about 5G or microchips.

  • +4

    I might have missed something, but didn't the COVID lockdowns end a while ago? You either got vaxxed or didn't, I'm not sure what benefit there is to continue complaining about it.

    • +5

      It should’ve been that simple. But remember the high strung, fearful citizens that berated, mocked, pointed in disgust at the ones that rightfully did not want to take an experimental vax? People don’t forget stupid behaviour

      • +2

        Remember the healthcare workers that were assaulted? Remember harassing them in the street and on the train so much so that we had emails from work warning us not to wear anything identifying on public transport and to change into scrubs at work? Remember bailing us up threatening us if we wrote covid on the death certificate, and worse, trying to get us to change the death certificates?

        We all moved on. And if you care about yourselves at all, perhaps you should too, so you don't have to live mired in this bitter hatred. You deserve better now. There's no more mandates, the lockdowns ended (even when you all said they never would), and no one cares if you're vaccinated anymore. So instead of spewing hatred wherever you go, go to therapy, process this awful time like the rest of us had to, and go and live your life away from the Internet.

        • +1

          Remember bailing us up threatening us if we wrote covid on the death certificate, and worse, trying to get us to change the death certificates?

          Health care workers fill out death certificates?

          It is terrible that any hcw's were harrassed or attacked, but they were far in the minority considering the trauma those who resisted the jabs were subject to.

          • +2

            @mrdean: How about the over 65s? They certainly weren't in the minority and everyone was telling them they didn't matter. That they were 'dead wood' or something. And yes, healthcare workers do death certificates. They are called doctors. Your group thinks you were the only people traumatised, you still hang on to it, you still circle around social media posting like you are in some way helping the world when all you do is repeatedly attack people over and over, and claim righteousness in that because of the vitriol you copped on social media.

            Meanwhile people died without morphine. Without their loved ones present. Their loved ones had to get their bodies embalmed if they wanted to even see them after death. Viewings in driveways. Or how about aged care?

            Seriously do you have any idea beyond your own nose just how many people were traumatised during covid? The difference is that they all had to get on with it, and cry in silence and in therapists, nurses, and other healthcare workers offices, in private, instead of constantly going on the attack and calling people sheeple. They don't want to be in this argument you're having because it traumatises them beyond belief. The true fallout from this pandemic is silent, and huge.

            But yeh, go off about how traumatised you are because people disagreed with you.

            • -1

              @MessyG:

              Seriously do you have any idea beyond your own nose just how many people were traumatised during covid?

              Yep, absolutely I do.

              All those people who believed the tv were absolutely traumatized.

              Disturbingly, those events you mentioned, like not being able to say goodbye to loved ones, seeing people through glass screens, in bubbles or any other number of absurd protective measures, done by GOVERNMENTS, was turned into some sort of VIRTUE. I still reel from the scale of the trauma based mind control inflicted on society.

              A thought experiment for you……..if there was NOTHING on the news about the alleged virus & everything just carried on as usual, would you have noticed anything different post 2020?

              • @mrdean: Well given I work in a hospital yeah I would have noticed a massive difference post 2020 and that would be people dying of lung failure, en masse, in the hospital and in nursing homes.

                It wasn't the government that set those policies, it was the healthcare sector. "Absurd protective measures" weren't government decisions, they were healthcare sector decisions. They weren't virtuous, they were terrible. They should not have had to happen but they did because of societies general attitude toward healthcare spending and the idea that they'll never get sick until they do.

                Your trauma isn't special. None of our trauma is. But the big difference is that we don't go around making threads like this. I will never forget in the midst of covid, seeing a picture of a little girl on a power pole and the claim that she was a victim of vaccine injury. I took a photo of it and reverse image searched it. She was not a victim of vaccine injury. She had died in the Sandy Hook shooting. Don't tell me that the kind of vitriol your crowd spew, the deliberate lies, are in any way close to healthcare policy. Everyone sees you all for what and who you are, they just don't bother with you anymore.

                • @MessyG:

                  I will never forget in the midst of covid, seeing a picture of a little girl on a power pole and the claim that she was a victim of vaccine injury. I took a photo of it and reverse image searched it. She was not a victim of vaccine injury. She had died in the Sandy Hook shooting. Don't tell me that the kind of vitriol your crowd spew, the deliberate lies, are in any way close to healthcare policy.

                  That's an interesting anecdote, thank you for sharing it. It adds to my view that some of what passes as anti-vaccine or conspiracy theories are actually deliberate disinfo attempts by let's say, "bad actors", to trigger people. They're likely not done by genuine people in the freedom movement. It's done to paint us as crazy, & it works as evidenced by your views.

                  Real vaccine injury stories are being done by groups like Forest Of The Fallen.

                  As a hcw, did you agree with preventing people from being with their loved ones at their death?

                  • +1

                    @mrdean:

                    the deliberate lies

                    many 'deliberate lies' were planted effectively,
                    just to smear and poison the well.

                    this was an intentional and calculated way to tarnish any dissenters.

                    Look for SPARS Hopkins pdf ,
                    and see the chapters on media control
                    and then try to imagine reading this PDF in 2020.

                    • +1

                      @whyisave:

                      many 'deliberate lies' were planted effectively,
                      just to smear and poison the well.

                      Yes, exactly.

                      • @mrdean: I saw photos on social media, of certain persons at those anti-mandate protests,
                        and those certain persons would be unruly and aggressive,…maybe even throw projectiles,
                        but all the people around the certain persons would get arrested
                        except the certain person, … as if the authorities knew who that certain person was.

              • +1

                @mrdean:

                All those people who believed the tv were absolutely traumatized.

                People who didn't watch TV nor use the Internet much,
                didn't even know what the fuss was about,
                ie. they just saw a new fashion accessory when they saw
                people mask up on the streets.

      • +1

        I was actually hanging at home during that time, so no, I don't remember sorry.

        It has ended though right? I mean I get pissed off about stuff that happened 20 years ago in high school but it seems like a waste of time to continue dwelling on it.

        • +1

          Sounds like you had a nice lockdown then. Didn’t experience job loss, or loss of business, vax injury, can’t give last hugs or even see a loved one about to die, etc. Of course they should get over it but to toss it aside like it’s nothing, especially when you have ppl here doubling down. Then yeah its good to remind ourselves then people are still stupid

          • @Cusack: Yep I am one of the millions of people who sat at home, worked away, got vaxxed and didn't die.

            I'm also best mates with someone who didn't get vaxxed, sat at home, worked away and didn't die.

            We don't spend our time complaining about covid though, more about stuff that actually affects our lives.

    • +3

      what benefit there is to continue complaining about it.

      It's because Fauci is in the news, saying many things contrary to what happened.
      If politicians were saying "they received the health advice" for making decisions,
      then those "health advisors" are saying 'umm…yeah, we made it up, because it kinda made sense',
      is the reason for Forum discussions like this.

      Hundreds of millions of people believed arrows on the floor and stickers on seats,
      is the reason why they were still alive enough to get the jabs….2x, 3x, 4x,…and more.

      You either got vaxxed or didn't

      Some got 1, and got very sick.
      They were not counted in the "you either got vaxxed" statistic,
      because they didn't want to complete the 2nd dose.
      They were berated by medical staff and by family/friends.

      Also, many of us, didn't get boosters.
      So, non-boostered population got classified as anti-v*x too.

      Didn't you see all the dating profiles or FB profiles
      of girls and guys, that were proud to claim that they got jabbed,
      showing logos of how many doses they had,
      and they were specifically saying they did not want non-jabbed people.

      It was their perfectly human right to choose who their partners should be,
      and they've all removed this "jab badge" or mention of jabs from their profile in the last year.
      Why did they do that ?

      • Again, what benefit is there to complaining about it?

        It's cool if you don't want to get vaxxed, but I don't see why people need to like you for doing it, yet alone saying it everywhere. Of course if you are anti vax some people won't like it, that's a choice you're making for yourself. How about just live with it, and stop complaining about it - life is easier that way.

        • +1

          what benefit is there to complaining about it?

          Democracy does not start and end only on the day you choose a political party.
          It's a daily conversation and a daily scrutiny of elected officials and their decisions.

          We have penalty rates in Australia and paid holidays or parental leave,
          because someone continued to complain about it, in spite of being told "what benefit, is there to complain?"

          All change in life, that is a 'benefit' to everyone, came from the empathy of a few.

          If you re-frame this as a "complaint", then you should write letters to a news editor and also stop watching the news.
          They're always broadcasting to everyone their complaints about something,
          or at least writing articles and discussing topics,
          to elicit a specific emotional response out of the reader / viewer as well.

          They're always showing news about knife attacks and terrorists.
          Stop complaining about terrorists in other countries !
          It's no benefit to me here. Life is simpler, by stopping complaining about events that don't affect me here.

          I was just saying that Fauci was in the news, because Fauci appeared before U.S. Congress.
          In fact, Daszak appeared before Congress last month.
          The editors of the biggest scientific journals (eg. Nature, Scientific American) appeared before U.S. Congress, in the last 1.5 months.

          If you read into Fauci's testimony, his responses are what stirred up the emotional response in people around the world.
          If you saw Daszak's responses and what Congress are doing now, you'll see that it was a serious issue that affected the whole world.
          The editors of the scientific journals suppressed peer-reviewed scientific articles from being published, akin to removing books in a library or never allowing a book to be read.

          This information formed the basis of bureaucrats around the world, in the biggest civil-rights abuse globally.
          Some take this seriously,…and some just shrug their shoulders and say "meh…why complain?"

          The following are all the same statement, in different contexts,
          and it just sounds weird, to be reductive for issues that affect us all.

          We're all in this together


          Again, what benefit is there to complaining about it?

          It's cool if you don't want to buy fake meat, but I don't see why people need to like you for choosing fake meat, yet alone saying it everywhere. Of course if you are anti meat some people won't like it, that's a choice you're making for yourself. How about just live with it, and stop complaining about it - life is easier that way.


          Again, what benefit is there to complaining about it?

          It's cool if you don't want Ukraine, but I don't see why people need to like you for choosing Ukraine, yet alone saying it everywhere. Of course if you are anti Ukraine some people won't like it, that's a choice you're making for yourself. How about just live with it, and stop complaining about it - life is easier that way.


          Again, what benefit is there to complaining about it?

          It's cool if you don't want Dutton, but I don't see why people need to like you for choosing Dutton, yet alone saying it everywhere. Of course if you are anti Dutton some people won't like it, that's a choice you're making for yourself. How about just live with it, and stop complaining about it - life is easier that way.


          Again, what benefit is there to complaining about it?

          It's cool if you don't want immigration, but I don't see why people need to like you for choosing it, yet alone saying it everywhere. Of course if you are anti immigration some people won't like it, that's a choice you're making for yourself. How about just live with it, and stop complaining about it - life is easier that way.


          Again, what benefit is there to complaining about it?

          It's cool if you don't want to vape, but I don't see why people need to like you for doing it, yet alone saying it everywhere. Of course if you are anti vape some people won't like it, that's a choice you're making for yourself. How about just live with it, and stop complaining about it - life is easier that way.


          Again, what benefit is there to complaining about it?

          It's cool if you don't want to pay tolls, but I don't see why people need to like you for doing it, yet alone saying it everywhere. Of course if you are anti tollroads some people won't like it, that's a choice you're making for yourself. How about just live with it, and stop complaining about it - life is easier that way.


          • +1

            @whyisave: I agree with all of your substituted examples.

            You can hold personal views, but this does not require people to like you for having those views, and if you go around shouting those views everywhere, that doesn't mean that others have to accept them or like you.

            So again, what benefit are you drawing from this process?

            • @AlanHB:

              what benefit are you drawing from this process?

              It's for the benefit of all of us who live on this land.

              The empathy of a few, gave us penalty rates, paid annual leave, parental leave, etc.
              Those few were asked the same question too: "why argue? what benefit is your complaint?"

              Some people only have their "say" on 1 day, every 3 years (Federally),
              when other people also exercise their "say" through their words and actions, every other day,
              to scrutinize the decisions of your servant.

              • @whyisave: You seem to misunderstand my question.

                What actual, quantifiable benefit are you getting from complaining about this issue on this specific Ozbargain thread?

                You say it's some general benefit from everyone in this land, I haven't really noticed a difference since it started. What changed in my life?

  • +7

    This was basically the message….
    The vax is 100% effective!!
    The vax is 90% effective
    The vax is 60% effective
    The vax is 40% effective
    The vax helps
    😂

    • +5

      This was basically the message….
      The vax will kill you
      The vax will change your dna
      The vax will make you infertile
      The vax will give you covid
      The vax is bad
      😂

      • -2

        Cusack - all false
        Gehim - all true

        • +3

          Is it true it has microchips too?

          • +1

            @Gehirn: More likely self assembling nanotechnology. At least in some of the shots.

            • +5

              @mrdean: Please expand on this 🍿

              • -3

                @Ughhh: Hahaha, as if you'd be receptive.

                • +2

                  @mrdean:

                  Hahaha, as if you'd be receptive.

                  Hahaha, as if you have a clue.

              • +2

                @Ughhh: Its a thing. Its also a great scary sounding name that makes science sceptics a little moist in the pants :)
                Eg
                https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9988954/

                The fact we have incredibly smart scientists in the world making research this advanced should be applauded.

                Everyone's posting on ozb on a device whose processor has billions of transistors each only a few nm in size thanks to electical engineers without a second thought.
                We also have medical researchers doing equally unimaginable (by regular foke) advancements and development that will hopefully progress society towards such advancements as targetted cancer cures and other uses for the technology. Or maybe it will just give us really good 7g reception.

                • -5

                  @SBOB:

                  targetted cancer cures and other uses for the technology.

                  Do you know what the real tragedy is?

                  That there already exist many natural cancer treatments that work. But people don't realise it because of propaganda & corruption.

            • +2

              @mrdean: I think 'they' ran experiments via the different batches,
              because 'they' could not have all batches behave the same way, for purposes of uptake.

              Some observers in the USA correlated the adverse reactions from their database
              with certain batch numbers, to see a whole bunch of side-effects.
              They also surmised that some of these batches had to travel great distances,
              with (suspected) poor refrigeration, because those vials needed sub-zero temperatures to stay 'fresh'.

              • +1

                @whyisave:

                They also surmised that some of these batches had to travel great distances,
                with (suspected) poor refrigeration, because those vials needed sub-zero temperatures to stay 'fresh'.

                Yep, the belief most people have that the contents of every countermeasure/jab shot are exactly the same are totally at odds with reality.

      • +1

        Ah so which one did you fall for? The first one at 100% effective? Oh boy.

      • +2

        Both sides emphasized the worst from each other when talking about it. Truth is reasonable takes were the majority on both sides. It's reasonable to want people to be vaccinated to protect others. It's also reasonable to be suspicious of vaccines from pharmaceutical company's with history of deception where government had agreed to waive all their liability for this special case.

        • +1

          So, when in doubt, don't do it.

  • +2

    Fauci is a criminal working against the populace and profiting from the pharmaceutical industry

    • +1

      Prove it.

    • +3

      The quickest way to reach net zero carbon targets is less carbon on the planet.

      zing !

  • +2

    lmao the memory holing is insane in this thread

  • +4

    Leave American politics where it belongs, in the bin. The stupidity over there is contagious and clearly has made its way around the world like cancer.

  • +4

    How much are the tin foil hats ?

    Are they on special ? Gotta grab a bargain.

    • Experts have confirmed that tin foil hats are very safe and effective against myocardites, pericardites, heart attack and blood clots.
      Currently doing research on effectiveness against sudden inexplicable deaths in young athletes.

      • Yep some of the vaccines caused issues for a minute fraction of those immunised.

        Meanwhile Covid acute and long covid have caused statistically significantly more deaths and long term affects.

        So the point is? Anyone is able to a choice but one is mathematically the smarter one. But it’s still a choice.

        Meanwhile threads of crazies like this ranting about conspiracies and crazy shit instead of thinking “hey these are people who are just trying to make the right calls in difficult times with good but not complete data”…

  • +9

    So many cracked out antivaxers in one thread. :) It feels like 2020 again.

    • +4

      If only they shunned modern medicine in its entirety and not when they feel it suits them.

      • not when they feel it suits them.

        Modern medicine says take them.
        However, many of us did not take any boosters.
        Not taking boosters = anti-jab

    • +1

      So many cracked out antivaxers in one thread.

      Nah … about the same number as provaxers (= vaccine junkies), about 50-50.

      What is sad is nothing changed.
      Like in 2020 it is one group against the other.
      No one wants to reconsider.

      Nothing has changed, nothing will change.

      • +1

        Maybe they don't need to reconsider? Maybe if we stopped making threads like this, these arguments wouldn't be happening. If people don't want vaccines, fine. Let the rest of us get on with our lives.

      • -5

        Nothing has changed, nothing will change.

        Well, the one noticeable change is that the pro-vaxxer crowd are getting thinned out in number by a sharp increase in deaths due to "unexplainable" sudden heart conditions. No such issues for those who chose not to put experimental drugs in themselves & moved on happily with life.

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