Make It Difficult for People in Their Lives and They Get Vaccinated

During a House Select Subcommittee on the Coronavirus hearing Monday, Rep. Rich McCormick (R-GA) questioned Dr. Fauci on a statement on vaccine requirements he made during a recorded interview.

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“It’s been proven that when you make it difficult for people in their lives, they lose their ideological bullshit, and they get vaccinated.” Official Quote by Anthony Stephen Fauci

Note: When Fauci says proven, he is clearly referring to the science behind psychological manipulating the public. He says he is a man of science, so people should hold him to that.

Just a few years ago Fauci was crowning himself as the "King of Science". This includes the famous quote where he stated that if you disagree with him, you are disagreeing with science.

It might be your first time hearing these shocking comments by Fauci, but this is him behind the mask.

So what does it mean for Australia?

Undoubtedly these same types of scientific types of people that rise to the top of bureaucratic government positions all over the world. I suspect that this is because most people they grow up in school and they think science is easy. Students just repeat what is in the textbook and they score high marks because they can regurgitate facts and memorise a formula. By the way if you didn't realise, that is not real science and just shows how poorly structured the current educational system is as it emphasises the regurgitation of facts.

People forget the Therapeutic Goods Administration is not an independent organisation. There is nothing special about the people inside that organisation, maybe they learned a few extra years of some topic at university and I hope they at least are at a standard to which they have written a thesis which is basically a long essay on a specialised topic. Some thesis papers are absolutely garbage in my opinion. But most importantly it reveals that these types of people are just ordinary people. They are just government workers to be more specific. They know very little and more critically they especially know nothing about a new pandemic. They know nothing more than the average citizen. Governments should not be given the right to control how people behave in a pandemic.

The problem is this lack of knowledge is not just constrained to scientists, but humans in general. I have met many barristers and solicitors, even former judges. Believe it or not sometimes cannot even recall the facts of a case I mention or recall key legislation in their field of expertise after a bit of uhm and ahing. If you told me if I remembered some facts of an obscure case I would probably tell you, "I am not sure myself, I believe it was something involving some type of snail-like object in the bottle, but I would not commit myself to that". However, you will often notice that because of the immunity granted to bureaucrats that they will not be frank and honest with you about what they don't know. This is why you cannot trust the government.

This is why it is my opinion that the public should focus on replacing government with uncensored artificial intelligence. People should not be scared of it. This is the reality that faces us and I don't see why the public puts so much emphasis on the government to protect its citizens when it is basically not well equipped to do any such thing. For example, the government cannot represent the people properly because the number of representatives does not account for the growth in the population. Even if representation somehow worked at the time when the Constitution was written, it clearly no longer functions as it was intended to. Has the number of senators and representatives increased by 7x in line with population growth? No it has not, representation has gone backwards to a tune of 7x. Even if you believed the government worked for the good of the people, you cannot deny that the representation has been watered down so much. I am not saying that would fix the issues immediately as there are core problems with the existence of government.

If it were a real pandemic then everyone would be clamouring to get vaccinated (provided that vaccine worked and did not have an even higher death rate than the disease it was preventing) and those foolish people who remain unvaccinated, pardon my words, will be left to rely on their natural immunity. I am sure many of the people within the anti-vax movement understand this core principle.

Bill Gates is a kind of famous oracle and he states that another type of pandemic will happen again. Time and time again his predictions/wisdom ironically seems to come true. Apparently the cusp of another Bird Flu Pandemic is here.

Ask yourself: Are you going to make the same choices next time?

Would you honestly take another experimental bird flu vaccine?

Comments

  • +202

    Inb4 deleted for spam: in Australia you can get up to 10 mental health appointments under an MHTP, ask your GP!

    • +4

      Is that a ChatGP ?

    • +1

      are the 10 mental health appointments fully bulked bill?

      • +5

        They cover ~$130 of the fee per session at a psychiatric professional of your choice. It's good to shop around to find someone that works for you

        • The Australian Psychological Society recommended fee is $300, so definitely shop around!

        • -1

          If they are Covered by the Government (to a certain amount), does that mean the Government has access to that information as it would go through Medicare ?

    • Yeah, because $100 a session is still so cheap.

      • +9

        Yeah in the grand scheme of things.

        • +12

          Yeah for OP especially it's a bargain. Good luck to the doctor though!

        • -1

          Inaccessible to someone who's struggling to make ends meet due to mental health issues.

      • +2

        It is actually, yes.

        • Sure, if you're doing well. But if you're struggling to feed your family, say due to mental health issues…

            • +7

              @infinite: what if you already have a family and then find yourself having severe mental health issues?

              • -5

                @jrowls: Talk about it with your family & friends, call a free mental health hotline for support and visit your GP for a bulk-billed mental health discussion.

                Mental health is only one small aspect of your life. It's not more important than your physical health, financial health & many other areas of your life. Most of those parts of your life will not have problems solved & subsidised by the tax payer either. Mental Health is not special in this regard compared to any other of those parts of life.

            • @infinite: Amy Winehouse had a cure?

          • +2

            @syousef: Still doesn't mean it's not cheap. You pay $100 to a plumber to fix a problem you'd consider that cheap. Health professionals don't magically work for free.

            • +2

              @justworld: It doesn't matter how "cheap" you consider something if the person that needs it can't afford it. Food is cheap in countries where people starve.

              • -1

                @syousef: Compared to the market rate, $100 is an absolute bargain. Not sure how you fail to comprehend that.

                • -1

                  @infinite: If you don't have the money it doesn't matter if it's the bargain of the century. "Not sure how you fail to comprehend that."

                  This board has become a meme.

            • -2

              @justworld: If you have no idea what you're talking about, don't type. You add no value to this discussion.

              • -1

                @RocketSwitch: Do you work for free? If not, why expect doctors or psychologists to do so?

                Pay for what you want to have. Otherwise wait around, wait around on the public carousel.

        • -2

          If you think $1,200 a month after the 10 have expired is cheap, you're so out of touch with what's happening. Wake up!

          • @RocketSwitch: Wake up to what?

            Getting a series of 10 consults for mental health subsidised and partly paid for by people other than yourself is a massive bargain.

            In what universe are you getting 10 electrician, plumber, carpenter, accountant, lawyer, financial planner consults partly paid for by other people ???

    • +4

      Don't encourage people to clog up the already clogged up mental health system with this nonsense. We have enough "mentally ill" (sad & anxious) without encouraging the self inflicted paranoid, delusional types.

    • +4

      Fifty cents has been added to your social credit score🙄.

  • +43

    Getting the COVID shot (not a vaccine) is one of my biggest regrets, permanent issues since. Also speaking to my cardiologist he's seen a massive uptick in heart issues.
    No way in hell would I get anything else that has been rushed.

    • +44

      Its disgusting that you get negged or poor comments when you are just saying how it is for you. I hope things work out :-)

        • +68

          Never claimed to be, it was a personal perspective. People just didn't like what they read.

          • +24

            @LanceVance: So your "permanent issues" are based on personal opinion and not actual facts?

            • +1

              @smartazz104: I guess you're right. But I know people tend to not like anecdotes. :)

              • +14

                @LanceVance: It's really unhelpful so I'll use all my negs on anyone being negative towards vaccinations.

                Vaccination only works if the majority play ball. Antivaxxers are leading us back to the dark ages.

                If you're one of the few who can't be vaccinated, you should all the more be encouraging everyone else to, it's for your own protection.

                • +21

                  @SlickMick: For established vaccines sure? For the COVID ones, not so much. The entire stopping transmission line turned out to be a lie. So why shouldn't it just be down to personal choice?

                  • @LanceVance: because

                    Vaccination only works if the majority play ball.

                    • +16

                      @SlickMick: Again you're ranking them all as equal. They aren't.

                    • +9

                      @SlickMick: The majority did play ball and it did sweet (profanity) all - comparing these rushed junk vaccines to something like the MMR jab is just as irresponsible as saying you hate all vaccines

                    • -4

                      @SlickMick: Most of your comments are nothing but cliches people use when they do not know anything else. Trust me ive looked.

                      Is there a block button on here?

                    • +2

                      @SlickMick: Vaccination only works if the vaccine actually worked.

                      • @djlee: Well you've never know unless you give it a go…. or did you hear somewhere that it's a conspiracy and it's not to protect our vulnerable?

                        • @SlickMick: How does it protect the vulnerable if it doesn't stop transmission?

                          • @djlee: The vulnerable take the vaccination and it reduces the chance of them having a severe reaction if they get covid.
                            Very simple, that is how vaccines work :)

                            • -1

                              @Gehirn: Sure, there's no argument there. But that's not the issue here.

                          • -1

                            @djlee: Would you rather be hit by a vehicle travelling at 60km/hr, or for the driver to apply the brakes?

                  • +2

                    @LanceVance: So you're pro-vaccination, but just not for Covid?

                    Are you aware that people aren't vaccinating against measles anymore? So if you're going to neg covid vaccines, you need to be be really clear that you totally support vaccinations in general if you don't want to be part of the problem.

                    We need 95% of the population is be double-vaccinated for measles, and we're dowhere near that. Unless this changes, it seems to me that life expectancies are going to revert to third world rates. (Apparently under 5 year olds aren't likely to survive in an unvaccinated public.)

                    Additionally, I just recently got another covid booster shot. Noone told me not to do it, that it won't do any good or will do me harm. I guess there is some sinister reason the medical profession don't agree with you? Controlled by the big pharmaceuticals I guess??

                    • +14

                      @SlickMick: Overall I think established vaccines are a good thing. Regardless it should be down to personal choice. If you have to resort to force and extreme coercion you immediately lose the high ground and destroy trust in the medical establishment.
                      Putting the COVID shots in the same league as established vaccines is just silly.

                      Congratulations. You took an experimental vaccine for a disease that for the vast majority of people is akin to the common cold. But most importantly that was your choice.

                      There is definitely a sinister relationship between the medical profession and the pharmaceutical industry and the financial incentives that hold the two together. Also the fact that these companies get full legal immunity for these products add to suspicion, and in terms of incentives if you remove negative consequences from key players that removes their incentive to be as cautious as possible.
                      The pharmaceutical industry also has a terrible reputation. Look at how many times they've been fined in the US alone.

                        • +13

                          @SlickMick: Lol you're pretty far off the reservation there. Thankfully we haven't reached you're desired level of authoritarianism yet, the 20th Century is riddled with enough examples of how catastrophically wrong that goes.
                          Good luck assuming that government always knows and wants best for you.

                          • -3

                            @LanceVance: No, what you want doesn't work because people are selfish. Democracy is the closest thing we have to a workable solution.

                            • +8

                              @SlickMick: Wants democracy, which is based on freedom of choice.
                              Wants mandates, which cancels out previously lauded democracy.
                              Profit?

                              If you clearly can't see the inconsistencies in your own position you're not worth engaging with.
                              Goodbye.

                              • -5

                                @LanceVance: lol I'm saying we should all play ball with exactly what we have, without crying conspiracy when our government makes you do something that some some online stranger has convinced you is a secret plot to do you evil

                              • +5

                                @LanceVance:

                                Wants mandates, which cancels out previously lauded democracy

                                Think of what you do every day, from when you wake up to when you go to bed. Virtually everything you touch (and breathe) is affected by regulations and actions mandated by the government. Without those you don't suddenly get your version of democracy, you rapidly get anarchy.

                    • @SlickMick:

                      Are you aware that people aren't vaccinating against measles anymore?

                      Following and blindly advocating the narrative presented by health authorities and pharmaceutical manufactures without looking at actual facts and data can lead to a false reality.

                      Data clearly shows that deaths from measles gradually declined to almost zero prior to the introduction of the measles vaccine.
                      https://files.ozbargain.com.au/upload/79016/107306/measlesuk…

                      We need 95% of the population is be double-vaccinated for measles

                      There is no actual robust study or data to support that statement. Its actually opinion based and only exists because they said so and picked out that number from a hat. In fact the decline in measles deaths from the link above indicates otherwise.

                      From what appears credulous and inspires you to do the right thing could be detrimental. After all, pharmaceutical companies are primarily for profit organisations, not for pro-health.

                      • @bigticket: I'm just quoting the experts. Who are you quoting?

                        Unfortunately, it looks like the next generation are going to find out which of us are right.

                        • @SlickMick: I'm quoting actual mortality data. Experts look at data, interpret the data and give their professional opinion based on that data and who funds them.

                          Looking at raw data cuts out the middle man. Have a look at the graphical data in the link, use your objective critical thinking skills to analyse it and explain how good the measles vaccine was.

                          You have been indoctrinated with false beliefs and this data should be an eye opener. Unfortunately, most will ignore information that conflicts with their false ideologies and I expect you to do the same.

                • +11

                  @SlickMick: it's rushed chemical. different bodies work differently. getting COVID shot is my biggest regret as well.

                  never visited doctor in my whole life and now every 6 months my throat gets f**ked. only thing I did is triple vaxxed because I thought it will bring greater good if I play the ball.

                  greater good my a**…

                  • -1

                    @CrypticM: You'll not the first person I've met to decide every illness they've had since vaccination is due to it. I would say thank you for your sacrifice for the greater good, if in fact your diagnosis is correct.

                    • +1

                      @SlickMick: your condescending reply doesn't add any value. what else could cause it after 3 doses of untested chemical in span of 12 months.

                      Pfizer itself provided testimony on effectiveness of their product. don't ask me to show me where these testimonials are, you can figure out yourself.

                • +2

                  @SlickMick: The second I was threatened the answer was no. You don't get to call on my aid now after you threw me to the wolves then.

                • +1

                  @SlickMick: “I’ll put on my seatbelt for your protection” that’s how dumb that sounds.

                  • +12

                    @Cusack: Firstly, are you people stupid? Australia got 1/100th of the covid deaths America did and you think these measures were ineffective?

                    Also what are you on about seatbelts? Vaccines are nothing like a seatbelt. By decreasing the risk of infection in the individual, they don't pass it onto others. If enough people are vaccinated, infection rates drop IE for other people's protection.

                    Look up a simple gif or video of how herd immunity works, you simpleton.

                    • -4

                      @Rick Sanchez: because we have 1/100 th of population. relative figures are much worse.

                      • +4

                        @CrypticM: It is nowhere near 1/100. Aus is about 1/12 of USA population.

                        • -3

                          @FezMonkey: I am talking about relative terms of all numbers.

                          • +5

                            @CrypticM: We had 1/4 of the deaths per capita than the US. If we'd followed their lead, we'd have 75,000 more dead Aussies. Or if they'd followed ours, 900,000 Americans would still be alive. I know which country I'd rather be in.

                            • +1

                              @dazweeja: Something you may find interesting. https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Australia/…
                              Without getting into accuracy of cause of death reporting, there's probably comorbidity factors that differ between countries.

                              • +2

                                @BoltThrower: That's a reasonable point which may explain some of the difference. My inclination would be that it doesn't explain the majority of the difference but it would take some complex data analysis to bear this out.
                                What data like that does show is that the US as a society appears to me to have its priorities wrong. What is the point of having high GDP per capita if the population is generally sicker, less educated and more likely to be in jail than comparable countries?

                    • -1

                      @Rick Sanchez: So if you and get vaccinated, then YOU are safe and you don’t have anything to worry abt right? So why are you worrying abt the unvaccinated? Pls explain that to this simpleton

                    • +1

                      @Rick Sanchez: Hey there, another simpleton here.

                      If the covid vaccine protects you, why does anybody else need to get it to protect you?

                      Care to provide any evidence at all that the covid vaccine prevents transmission? Pfizer themselves admitted to the European parliament that they never tested whether it stops transmission in their trials. Yet we were all told that it would. Remember hearing that we could all return to normal life once we hit 70%+ double vaxxed because the 'R' value would drop and the virus would die out? I seem to remember that we remained under lockdown and the virus stayed.

                      So, how did herd immunity go for covid then?

                  • +1

                    @Cusack: It isn't, but "I'll put anti-collission technology in my car for your protection" would be closer

                    • -1

                      @SlickMick: That analogy doesn’t work.
                      Btw if someone has the mumps, I’ll gladly share a meal with them no worries ….Coz I’m vaccinated and not worried coz it works. So now tell me why everyone was so butt hurt from people not wanting the experimental vax when YOU are vaxxd?

                      • +1

                        @Cusack: wow.

                        “I’ll put on my seatbelt for your protection”
                        works, but
                        "I'll put anti-collission technology in my car for your protection"
                        doesn't.

                        okay, I can see this debate isn't a level playing field.
                        You'll have to interpret your last question, I don't understand crazy.

                        • -1

                          @SlickMick: Ok then simple question time….

                          1. If you are vaxxd, then you have nothing to worry abt right. So WHY are you sooo upset at people unvaxd?

                          2. Are you up to date with all the booster shots they have? What is it up now anyway?

                          • @Cusack: COVID vaccines reduce severity of disease and also transmission but does not reduce either to zero. Unvaccinated people pose a risk to people who can't get vaccinated but also to people who are vaccinated.

                            See: https://theconversation.com/your-unvaccinated-friend-is-roug…

                            • +1

                              @dazweeja: So when you realized they lied at the start saying it was 100% effective, you still played along? Btw have you read into Fauci?
                              So everyone, even the vaxd will still infect everyone. It ‘may’ reduce severity but we’re all still passing it to each other. You’d mandate an experimental vax for that?

                              • +2

                                @Cusack:

                                So when you realized they lied at the start saying it was 100% effective, you still played along

                                Please provide a source for this claim because your question is based on a false premise.

                                even the vaxd will still infect everyone

                                Yes, at a reduced rate. It's all probabilities.

                                It ‘may’ reduce severity

                                It did reduce severity of illness and dramatically reduced your chances of dying with earlier strains. The benefit is not as great with later strains because they are milder.

                                You’d mandate an experimental vax for that.

                                It's not experimental - the vaccines passed three phases of trials like any other - and yes, of course. The overall benefit to society was easily worth it.

                          • @Cusack: I thought it was simple, but it seems you don't understand. Getting vaccinated isn't for me, it's for everybody.
                            It doesn't help me to vaccinate me, I need to vaccinate everyone to ensure we win and covid loses.

                            Like you said, it isn't a count thing, it's a boost thing. Yeah I recently got boosted.

                            • @SlickMick: “It’s not for you it’s for everybody”!? You really just said that. Oh boy.

                              Ok based on your thinking, why isn’t the measles vax mandated? There was an outbreak last month in Sydney. Why not crackdown on those unvaccinated?
                              ….maybe because the measles vax actually works as intended and actually protects that person and stops transmission. Get it now?

                              • @Cusack: Didn't I bring up measles earlier? I would love vaccinations to be mandated. If not, then I strongly desire that anyone without vaccination and without accepted approval to not be vaccinated, not be allowed in our schools, workplaces, shops etc.

                                The measles vax used to work as intended. After fools jumped on this antivax bandwagon now we're expecting babies to start dying from measles again. Thanks for your contribution.

                                • @SlickMick: So my simple point (again and again), someone vaccinated from measles is SAFE from those unvaccinated …so they’re not trembling scared anymore. Coz the vax works.
                                  What about this sentence don’t you understand?

                                  • +1

                                    @Cusack: Your point is too simple and missing the facts. Children under 5 can't be vaccinated from measles. So thier only protection is for everyone else to be vaccinated. We're scared for our children, who are our future.

                              • @Cusack:

                                because the measles vax actually works as intended and actually protects that person and stops transmission.

                                One of the reasons why measles vaccine work is because it doesn't replicate and mutate like crazy, always changing the goal post.

                                Every infected host and the longer the infection period , the more the opportunity is given to the virus to mutate again.

                                In a way kinda like how superbugs work.

            • @smartazz104: So this comment got upvoted, yet 2 up comment that says the same thing fot downvoted.

              I don't understand ozbargain sometimes.

              • +1

                @baldur: It took 68 negs to get it downvoted though. There is a scary amount of antivaxxer support here. Due to the daily limit on negs, we need to use them sparingly.

      • +38

        Yes it is, and then even more so yours getting negged offering some support & positivity. People have strong confirmation bias and when something threatens their world view they'll get quite nasty in defending it.

        • +19

          Once you realise the true demograph of OzBargainers (check the OzB event birthday photos) you'll realise why they're getting negged.

          • +25

            @Fayble1212: Yep, OzB does clearly lean pretty left/fans of authority.

          • +11

            @Fayble1212: I looked.

            Wow, most of them look like they are about 15 years old. I understand the posts on Ozb a lot better now.

            Zero life experience mob.

            • +4

              @Clambabula: Wow! just as you said I understand this site so much better :D
              I guess it makes sense, I remember being a broke teen so I totally understand why they'd be the majority of a bargain hunter site.

          • @Fayble1212: Its why we have an idiot running the country.🤷‍♂️

        • -4

          People have strong confirmation bias and when something threatens their world view they'll get quite nasty in defending it.

          Hope you realise, this is you as well as people negging you. Your worldview says COVID vaccine bad and (un)fortunately you're in the minority. Neggers believe the opposite and are in the majority.

          • +31

            @soan papdi: Fair enough, but if you look at my initial comment again you may notice I merely gave a perspective based on personal experience. If someone got some sort of reaction from eating a food and then said 'I don't want to have that again' I doubt people would bat an eye. But because this issue is so loaded people see a personal anecdote as something like a threat.
            I can only say for myself that if someone commented saying that they had the shot, felt great and happy they did so I wouldn't give them shit about it.
            So I'm not sure why people here are inclined to do so.

            • +31

              @LanceVance: Because you are threatening their belief that they have not been fooled and that what has already been injected into their body could harm their health.

              • +9

                @Mad Max: and can still harm their health, turns out it still multiplies months after they said it would stop,it also seeks areas like testicles and heart

          • +34

            @soan papdi: Many including me trusted the system so much that we went ahead and got the vaccine.
            But I realized they took advantage of this trust.
            Now that trust is gone. As simple as that.

            • +4

              @Mi2: Not many, almost ALL Australians did trust the system. And we ended up being miles ahead of other countries that didn't follow the health advice. What are you on about?

              • -1

                @Rick Sanchez: Nothing at all to do with the fact that we live on an island are were happy to go along with authoritarianism/fascism.

                Answer this Mr Genius:
                Why did the excess death rate increase in WA as soon as the vaccine started rolling out, but well before WA had any sort of outbreak?

        • +6

          People have strong confirmation bias and when something threatens their world view they'll get quite nasty in defending it.

          The irony…

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