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Europe Return: Milan $890, Paris $942, Madrid $1016, London $1080 & More [Feb-Jun] on Air China @ Beat That Flight

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Air China delivering the goods to Europe! While Scoot has GREAT prices later in the year to Athens, Greece, they're a low cost carrier. Air China includes 2x23kg checked luggage and all the usual food, entertainment.

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Sydney to Paris

Dates: 1 Feb 23 - 30 Jun 23

Melbourne to Paris

Dates: 1 Feb 23 - 30 Jun 23

Return Price Travel Dates
$943 6 Mar to 20 Mar
$943 15 Mar to 29 Mar
$944 15 Mar to 22 Apr
$942 24 Mar to 15 Apr
$943 24 Mar to 1 May

Sydney to London

Dates: 1 Feb 23 - 30 Jun 23

Melbourne to London

Dates: 1 Feb 23 - 30 Jun 23

Return Price Travel Dates
$1083 4 Feb to 2 Mar
$1080 7 Feb to 13 Mar
$1080 10 Feb to 8 Mar
$1081 28 Feb to 3 Apr
$1084 3 Mar to 6 Apr
$1082 6 Mar to 5 Apr
$1081 15 Mar to 22 Apr
$1081 18 Mar to 5 Apr
$1081 24 Mar to 1 May

Sydney to Madrid

Dates: 1 Feb 23 - 30 Jun 23

Return Price Travel Dates
$1191 1 Feb to 11 Mar
$1016 10 Feb to 28 Feb
$1098 12 Feb to 10 Mar
$1119 23 Feb to 9 Mar
$1118 23 Feb to 21 Mar
$1119 6 Mar to 20 Mar

Melbourne to Madrid

Dates: 1 Feb 23 - 30 Jun 23

Return Price Travel Dates
$1176 1 Feb to 11 Mar
$1176 4 Feb to 18 Mar
$1196 7 Feb to 21 Mar
$1085 22 Feb to 8 Mar
$1086 22 Feb to 12 Mar
$1084 22 Feb to 20 Mar
$1104 6 Mar to 20 Mar

Sydney to Milan

Dates: 1 Feb 23 - 30 Jun 23

Melbourne to Milan

Dates: 1 Feb 23 - 30 Jun 23

Return Price Travel Dates
$891 11 Feb to 2 Mar
$891 12 Feb to 22 Mar
$891 6 Mar to 20 Mar
$890 6 Mar to 13 Apr


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  • Any chance of them coming to Perth this year? Or China Southern returning?

    • Is China Southern the best Chinese airline?

      • +3

        China Southern are the largest Chinese Airline, wouldn't call them the best (though they're alright). I've personally flown China Southern, China Eastern, Sichuan Airlines, and Hainan Airlines to China (and also domestically within China). I'd take Hainan out of the 4 every time time, I'd say they're the best. IMO best food, drinks, and biggest (English) movie selection. I find they all have avergage lounges, my favourite being China Eastern at PVG, though it's only good by Chinese standards, bad by Western standards. Yet to fly Air China.

      • I flew China Eastern once from Sydney to Shanghai, my heart sank when I saw the plane at the airport, didn't look like it'd make the distance. Have to say I'm surprised it met whatever standards we may have, in flight entertainment was a deck of cards. It did beat the internal China flights though, not sure what airline it was but the planes had those tubes for the in seat audio instead of those dual 3.5mm jacks.

        • You just reminded me of the awful in flight live ads the flight attendants have to do on domestic Chinese flights selling merch

    • No I don't think so. I believe it is a profitability issue.

  • Great price with luggages. Can be better if latet dates are available.

  • Is FlightNetwork or Gotogate trustworthy?

    • +3

      Not sure about flight network but gotogate is god awful. Strongly recommend you avoid.

      Almost always best to book direct unless it's a very significant saving. You'll be bombarded with fees for doing anything at all via an agent, and have to contact the airline via the agent should you have cancellations or any other last minute issues.

      • +1

        I have never found this to be the case. I always just find the airline booking reference buried in the documents. Add the ticket to the phone app and do any changes direct with the airline.

    • +1

      I have used Flight Network and they suck (they don't have an office in Australia either). Customer support is non-existent and I never got refunded on my cancelled flight.

    • I used Gotogate for my Dec 2022 trip to Europe, and I found that they worked perfectly fine. Granted that I did not have to do anything that requires the help of an agent, e.g. Cancellations/Delays, so my answer might be different if I had to reschedule or anything like that.

      • If nothing goes wrong then its fine, you bought a ticket and you have a ticket. But its not uncommon for something to go wrong, and thats when you'll wish you paid a little more to book direct.

  • +2

    70 hours on the plane?

    • +3

      Includes layover times.

      But those hours look pretty brutal nonetheless.

      • +3

        I took a similar flight back in 2018 with 14 hours layover in Beijing en route to Munich (SYD - PEK with Air China, and PEK - MUC with Lufthansa). I actually kinda enjoyed it, as I managed to hire a private driver to go see the Great Wall and got back to the airport just in time for shower and the second leg of the flight.
        In terms of the transit visa, I applied for the 144 hour visa-free transit at the Beijing Airport.

        • Some of those flights involve layovers in two cities, e.g. 9 hours in Shanghai and then 3 hours in wuhan. Unless chasing status credits with the airline, never subject oneself to this needless agony.

  • +4

    What, traveling back in time? All 2023 dates 😁

    • +4

      The struggle to remember it's a new year 😂

  • +1

    what is air china safety record?

    • +5

      May land at destination

      May also crash on tropical island with polar bears

    • +1

      Call it a mystery flight.

    • +1

      Pretty good, only one fatal incident in 2002 (Although airline was CAAC before 1988). Remember they have nearly 500 planes in their fleet (compare to over 300 for Qantas Group), so to operate for we'll over 20 years without any fatal incidents is a usually good sign.

      China for the most part is just as safe to travel in as most other parts of the world, as they do tend to have relatively young fleets and the authorities absolutely do not want incidents, so have invested a lot of time and resources to prevent incidents (saving face is all important).

      • Thank you for that, I have flown with Cebu airlines before will never do it again.

        • +1

          At least drinks are included, so even if you don't like the meals, your not at least paying extra to keep hydrated.

  • +3

    Do they fly over Russian territory?

  • Any cheap one way flights in June?

  • +3

    Brisbane needs to seriously improve, specially after Scoot left.

    • Virgin Australia is headquartered in Brisbane and I don't think it's a coincidence that a lot of the international airlines that have got their act together post-Covid aren't allowed to service BNE airport

  • +4

    Tempted to downvote these Air China deals since their website doesn't seem to function to book directly and if booking through dodgy OTAs is the only option then that's worthy of a downvote for obvious reasons.

  • +6

    Unless you can stopover in China, these would be absolutely horrible.

    Who wants to be travelling for that long? I'd rather pay more if it means more direct flights.

  • +8

    Transit or layovers at china can be painful. They make u go through the immigration even if its an hour transit. For transit in majority of the countries you dont have to go through immigration but for china it’s different. They get your finger prints face id basically everything. My piece of advice out of personal experience if your layover is less than 3 hours never go through any Chinese airlines. The officers can be painful and most highly you will miss the connecting flight. Again this is out of my personal experience.

    • +2

      Seems a fair assessment based on my recent experience.

    • I did 2 x 72 hour transit in 2019 and it wasn't too bad (and it was 2 separate bookings). Most of these flights look like more than 3 hour layovers, so transfer shouldn't be too much of an issue and the airport at PEK wasn't too bad, had most of the standard amenities (toilets, seats, restaurants, etc).

      These flights are a good budget option as unlike budget airlines like scoot, you get baggage, drinks, meals, in seat power and some entertainment included. Yes some of these things might not be as nearly good as Singapore airlines, but it's still a step up from Scoot.

    • Probably depends on the airport - recently did the China Southern deal to Europe via Guangzhou and it was painless both directions, took about 15min max to get through the transfer desk / security since there was basically no line. We did not have to exit into China (i.e. no fingerprints or any of that stuff).

      • I had the same experience going to Osaka on China Eastern with a transfer at PVG pre-COVID. Super quick, didn't have to enter into China, probably took less than 30 mins all up.

    • +3

      I had the same for a transit in the US - forced to go through immigration, although this was a while ago - not sure if this still applies.

      • Still happens in the US.

        Painful for people travelling to Canada, as LAX always has long queues and direct flights to Canada aren’t as competitive/cheap (daily AC from SYD/BNE, QF 3x weekly from SYD, or via Nadi/Manilla)

        • Air Canada and WestJet are competing with $188 flights from Honolulu to Vancouver. You can score a cheap flight to Honolulu with Jetstar, if you can tolerate them.

          • @Scrooge McDuck: Would be a risky booking (unprotected connection) with Jetstar's usual on-time performance.

            A hotel in Honolulu (to reduce risk of delayed inbound flight) would eat away any savings quickly as well.

            • @ol mate: I just gave myself a 10 hour layover and spent the day touring around Oahu on the bus. Although I took an 18 hour layover on my first trip and that wasn't enough.

    • Yeah people aren't putting a value on their time with these Chinese airlines.

      Just booked for 4 via etihad last night to Paris and return via Rome $1440 direct with the airline.

      • I tend to agree waiting 20 hours for a few hundred is probably not worth it especially Etihad is a superior airline. Saying that, looking at some of these options in some cases the difference is say $500 or more than the best alternative and in my case I would be in a group of 5 - so now we are talking $2500+ for 20 hours. That's a different calculation.

  • +1

    Just don't say anything bad about the airline and you shouldn't go missing

  • I'd argue the point on scoot being cheap anymore.
    I have found full service airfares to Europe and UK for around the same price as scoot want to charge.
    Example, recently booked syd-fco for $1100.
    Their flights BACK from Athens are quite expensive.
    When even a tighta*se like myself can pay only a little extra for full service, they can no longer be considered low cost. Just low frills.

  • I flew China Eastern to Madrid about 7 years back and they were fantastic. Brand new planes. Great in flight entertainment and food. Was in economy and felt it was way better than the last time i went on qantas for overseas travel so i am surprised some saying they only got a deck of cards and were worried about the condition of the aircraft. Wondering how far back they flew with them or if it was a domestic flight within China which i have heard they use all the old planes on??

    • +1

      yes condition of aircraft is now a real issue, mainly because many planes were not used during the three year covid lock down and after the lock down finish economy is dying until now. Many skilled people flee from the country and the ones cannot left normally are poor in english and lack of connection to global update because of the great firewall, I believe it is same case for flight maintenance industry. Flight companies are poorer in finance than ex-Covid time and try to control costs.

  • +3

    I am not new to this website although I did not register to join discussion.
    I feel it worth to remind you guys something happened recently and a even bigger picture.

    AirChina Recent Accident and near miss
    Sep23 Engine Fire China to Singapore
    https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/air-china-flight-fire-sin…
    Dec23 Midflight (engine) issue and return to Sydney
    https://twitter.com/shanghaidaily/status/1741106308265255194

    China Eastern
    Dec23 Mechanical Failure return to London
    https://www.shine.cn/news/metro/2312093879/
    Dec23 Engine Failure
    https://airlinegeeks.com/2023/12/04/china-eastern-airbus-a33…

    May22 worst case
    https://fortune.com/2022/05/18/china-eastern-airlines-crash-…

    Providing the frequency of such failures, I assume it is a systematically problem in preventative maintenance and risk management, in the bigger background of skilled people flee from the country and bad economy, apparently both skills and resources are more limited than the good time.

  • -1

    Not flying on a plane that has been made in China.

  • If the layover is more than 12 hours, do they offer hotel stays?

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