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[QLD] $300-$1000 Energy Efficient Appliances Rebate (Air Con, Fridges, Washing Machinces, Dryers etc) @ Queensland Government

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[QLD] $300-$1000 Energy Efficient Appliances Rebate (Air Con, Fridges, Washing Machinces, Dryers etc) @ Queensland Government
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ciab on 01/08/2023 - 14:04 qld.gov.au (10918 clicks)
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Climate Smart Energy Savers Program offers rebates of up to $1000 to buy and install eligible energy-efficient appliances with a four-star rating.

Low income households will be able to claim the most on appliances, however all Queenslanders will be eligible to access cost-of-living support on selected appliances.

To be eligible for the low-income additional component, individual applicants must meet the Low Income Tax Offset threshold as defined by the ATO.

MODS please make this a table Format:

APPLIANCE STANDARD INCOME LOW INCOME
Washing Machines $300 $550
Dish Washers $300 $550
Dryers $300 $550
Refrigerators $350 $600
Air conditioners $400 $650
Solar and heat pump hot water systems $800 $1,000
Electrical & Electronics Air Conditioner Clothes Dryer Energy Saving Hot Water System Rebate Refrigerator Washing Machine

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                  • AaronR on 05/09/2023 - 16:54
                    +2

                    @AuQld: That’s the funny thing about peaksmart. After install and sign off by the sparky to submit to energex, there’s this little Ethernet cable that sometimes falls out and disables it.

                    • AuQld on 05/09/2023 - 17:42

                      @AaronR: Lol, I didn't know that it's good to know 😆

  • R4 on 01/08/2023 - 15:27
    -5

    No wonder Queensland's state debt pile is so high.

    • INFIDEL on 01/08/2023 - 15:34
      +2

      Over $10B surplus this year!
      Lot being used to pay down debt.

      • NigelTufnel on 01/08/2023 - 15:39
        +3

        Yeah. Pretty sure net debt per capita in Qld is one of the lowest in Australia. A heck of a lot less than Vic that's for sure… And other debt measures it looks reasonable compared to the others as well.

        But, I'm sure the Olympic spending will change that quickly!

        • INFIDEL on 01/08/2023 - 15:48
          +2

          Per capita debt situation is different to overall State debt. But the two are fairly related.
          Larger population States have much larger State debt.
          So many people have left NSW & Vic for Qld since COVID. And those states have higher debts in part due to COVID.

          • Loki556 on 01/08/2023 - 16:47
            +1

            @INFIDEL:

            So many people have left NSW & Vic for Qld since COVID. And those states have higher debts in part due to COVID.

            Thanks to the excellent handling of the COVID situation by the glorious leader Dan. Has really helped spur interstate migration.

            • Eeples on 02/08/2023 - 11:10

              @Loki556: And yet he keeps winning elections.

              Perhaps you are out of step.

              • Loki556 on 02/08/2023 - 15:55

                @Eeples: Yes comrade, all of Victoria marches in step behind the great leader!

                Anyone who disagrees is out of step and needs reeducation!

          • NigelTufnel on 01/08/2023 - 18:36

            @INFIDEL:

            Per capita debt situation is different to overall State debt. But the two are fairly related.

            Well yes, obviously. One is just the other divided by population…

            • INFIDEL on 01/08/2023 - 18:58
              +1

              @NigelTufnel: You were responding to a comment about total Qld State debt.
              It's a different measure!

              Total & per capita State Debt levels 22-23 pdf
              (Graph 11) shows that Qld has lowest per capita net debt👍

              Whereas total Qld State net debt is 3rd highest. (Graph 10)

              • NigelTufnel on 01/08/2023 - 19:17
                +1

                @INFIDEL: The comment wasn't specific. Just 'state debt'. There are many measures of this as noted (gross, net, total per capita, etc). Some of which Qld fares better than others. We're on the same team here.

                • INFIDEL on 01/08/2023 - 19:18
                  +1

                  @NigelTufnel: I know😊

                  Yes, original comment "Queensland's state debt pile is so high" is almost meaningless!
                  Most wild refer to total State net debt there.
                  High in comparison to what? Their household debt? It sure is. Other States?…

                  Per capita or ability to pay down the debt is a better measure. The $10B surplus this year helps that.

        • alidli on 01/08/2023 - 18:52
          +1

          the Olympic spending

          Yeah, Miss Palaszczuk won't care about the cost as long as her name goes down in history and she has her name on a few plaques on walls.

      • Spamazon on 01/08/2023 - 15:55
        -2

        The Surplus is due to coal exports. The government has banned new coal mines. Just brilliant!

        • INFIDEL on 01/08/2023 - 16:11
          +6

          Thank you, Minerals Council misleading advertising!
          Not a brilliant comment😜

          Qld Govt has NOT banned all new coal mines!

          Yes increased coal mining royalties (tied to higher prices) has led to a record $10+B surplus.
          Why shouldn't Queenslanders benefit from windfall profits made from selling our resources?? Unlikely to last long.

          Besides new mines will not come on line until many years time, not contributing to current cost-of-living issue this initiative is meant to address.

          By then international thermal coal price won't likely be at as elevated level… As demand is expected to fall due to increased renewable use - over life of new mines.

          Qld royalties were increased due to excessively high international prices.

          Royalty is set at a lower rate with expected lower coal prices . So the benefit to the budget will be likely short lived.

          • Spamazon on 01/08/2023 - 16:45
            +2

            @INFIDEL: Mining makes up over 50% of our exports. We have been exporting coal for over 200 years. The only way this is short lived is by government intervention.

            • INFIDEL on 01/08/2023 - 16:50
              +3

              @Spamazon: The current elevated mining royalty is tied to unprecedented high thermal coal prices.

              It's a short lived gain for Qld budget… As coal prices return to more normal prices, royalties tied to price will fall.

              • Spamazon on 01/08/2023 - 16:53
                -1

                @INFIDEL: der

                • INFIDEL on 01/08/2023 - 16:58
                  +1

                  @Spamazon: You are confusing coal mining, with current unprecedented increase in royalties to Qld Govt.

                  The income bonus is very dependent on world thermal coal prices! It won't last!

                  Royalties are now tied to sale price! When price falls, royalties fall. So much lower income to Qld Govt!

                  Even the Qld Govt admits that - with an expected deficit next year!
                  That's how short term it is expected to be! 1 year!!

            • INFIDEL on 01/08/2023 - 16:55

              @Spamazon:

              We have been exporting coal for over 200 years.

              As our steam powered industrial revolution era dependence on coal to produce steam diminishes, thermal coal prices, mining & export are expected to fall!

              With expected developments in 'Green Steel' production, demand for Metallurgical coal for steel production is expected to fall. Qld is a major producer of coking coal.

              • R4 on 01/08/2023 - 20:09
                +1

                @INFIDEL: I work in mining. Green steel is still unproven at scale and metallurgical coal will be needed for many years yet. Lots of countries increasing coal powered generation - Germany, Japan, China, Indonesia spring to mind. I'm all for green energy but there's also realism.

                • INFIDEL on 01/08/2023 - 20:49
                  +1

                  @R4: Understand that.
                  Possibly a long way down the track, especially with Green Steel. So the trains carrying coking coal to the Port of Brisbane will keep rolling for quite a while. Saw one near me on Monday.

                  Was in Tokyo, 2011… With the Tepco reactor melt down @fukushima, so understand the pressure to find non-nuclear based electricity production in some countries.

                  As Europe is finding, delivery of gas is problematic & more expensive. Because of that Germany is again considering coal.
                  And high gas price here makes gas fired electricity production the method of last resort (at present).

                  There are pressures on coal mines here…

                  New coal mines are likely to face increasing competition & possible loss of export markets down the track, making them more uncompetitive in the life of new mines.

                  Not to mention political pressures to limit or phase out coal on several grounds.

                  Banks aren't so keen on coal as an investment. Shareholder action is likely to force some large companies out of fossil fuels.

                  Without financial & political capital to develop coal mines… The writing is on the wall (at least for future thermal coal mines).

                  Time will tell.

                • INFIDEL on 01/08/2023 - 22:03
                  +1

                  @R4: Notice your Profile shows Perth…
                  A very different approach to gas in the West, than in the East! A political decision which seems to have paid off.

                  In the East - gas is primarily for export, with world pricing placed on domestic gas. Hence high pricing for industry & electricity production.

                  Queensland electricity production is still largely coal fired in mainly Govt owned facilities. The Govt can control retail prices & massively subsidise bills

    • Jessie Ryder on 01/08/2023 - 16:34
      +2

      LOL what a fool R4, QLD has the least debt and in surplus.

      • R4 on 01/08/2023 - 20:09
        -1

        Please don't call me a fool

        • Eeples on 02/08/2023 - 11:14

          Did someone hurt your feelings?

          2023: Not hurting Feelings is more important than stating Facts.

          • R4 on 02/08/2023 - 11:53

            @Eeples: No hurt feelings here champ but calling someone you don't know and have never met a fool on your first interaction is pathetic and childish.

            I was raised not to do that but then I guess we all have different values in life

            • Eeples on 02/08/2023 - 23:09

              @R4: “No wonder Queensland's state debt pile is so high.”

              Mmmm, I was raised to check my facts or appear a fool.

              Champ.

              • R4 on 03/08/2023 - 21:33

                @Eeples: Mmmm, how about debating, discussing and, heaven forbid, disagreeing - especially with people you don't know and have never met - without name calling? A novel concept to many but there it is. But like I said, we all have different value systems - and I know where my values are at.

                Championie.

    • Chas k on 02/08/2023 - 06:06

      Quick mafs???

  • mange on 01/08/2023 - 15:34
    +1

    This is probably on top of the build code changes coming into effect on the 1st of October. Now, houses will have to achieve 7 stars instead of 6.

  • mikeleemy on 01/08/2023 - 15:38

    Does it include all energy-efficient appliances? ;-)

    • FrozenFred on 01/08/2023 - 16:50
      +3

      R we talking vibrators?

      • mikeleemy on 01/08/2023 - 22:17
        +2

        direct to the hole.. sorry, i mean, direct to the point

    • INFIDEL on 01/08/2023 - 15:52
      +9

      Your Profile (Sydney) shows you aren't even a Qld taxpayer to make a comment about how Qld Govt is "misusing our tax money" on cost-of-living support for Queenslanders!!

  • IMadeYouReadThis on 01/08/2023 - 15:45
    +4

    Booom! Gerry Harvey must be delighted!

  • Jimothy Wongingtons on 01/08/2023 - 15:58
    +5

    Government: mate, with current spending habits we are heading for recession

    Also Government: hey do you wanna spend?

  • Yogi-oz on 01/08/2023 - 16:00

    Does anyone know if the appliance has to be pre-purchased before you can claim the rebate?

    • aja12 on 01/08/2023 - 16:13

      Are you asking if you can claim the rebate before you actually buy the appliance?

      • Yogi-oz on 02/08/2023 - 11:50

        Yeah I mean I have to move to a new house soon, and definitely will be buying some appliances, so curious how it works? Do I apply first and then buy - like get a voucher? Or is it that I buy and then claim a refund of some sort?

        • notauser on 26/08/2023 - 18:05

          Sounds like rebate is after you buy

  • Loki556 on 01/08/2023 - 16:44

    Inflation reduction act QLD style

  • turtlesinmypants on 01/08/2023 - 16:53

    Any rebates on solar batteries storage?

    • Poor Ass on 01/08/2023 - 18:53

      Nah doesn't appear essential in gov eyes

  • Caerdyddblue on 01/08/2023 - 17:04
    +1

    Has anybody done the Victorian Energy upgrade scheme? Thinking of getting 1/2 new split air conditioners as mine are 10-20 years old

  • nickstar76 on 01/08/2023 - 17:09

    This will definitely slow down inflation 😂

  • StingyShopper on 01/08/2023 - 17:12

    Is it 1x device per household? Would like to install 2x aircons

    • mikeroxoz on 01/08/2023 - 18:14

      'Only one rebate will be available per household'

      • thebigV on 01/08/2023 - 21:18

        Yeh but does one rebate mean one claim? Surely they wont pay $400/aircon.. that would be ridiculous?

  • Wigles on 01/08/2023 - 17:16

    I'm installing a heat pump hot water system in the next few weeks, going from instant gas. Am i not eligible because im upgrading from gas?

    • tcme on 01/08/2023 - 17:44

      Would like to know this too

    • mikeroxoz on 01/08/2023 - 18:17
      +1

      I don't think it matters what you are changing from? There is a comparison table to promote possible annual savings but it states…
      'Rebates paid will be based on the appliance purchased and installed'

      • Wigles on 01/08/2023 - 18:27

        The table says "From electric storage". So i was thinking you have to currently have electric storage, which seems strange.

        • Tleyx on 01/08/2023 - 18:33

          Electric storage is the worst

  • INFIDEL on 01/08/2023 - 17:58
    +5

    Goes nicely with [QLD] $550 Electricity Credit for Every QLD Household ($1072 for Vulnerable Households) - as part of the cost-of-living measures, stated in the announcement

  • RedPanda on 01/08/2023 - 18:43

    Anyone know of anything for Tasmania? They had a great energy scheme 3 years against heat pumps, insulation etc

  • neosin on 01/08/2023 - 18:55

    I swear to god NSW never gets sh1t! >_<

  • wisdomtooth on 01/08/2023 - 19:13
    +1

    Corporate welfare. Pretty sure retailers will price it in (simply holding off sales, and putting it all up to RRP).

    • frugalferret on 01/08/2023 - 20:39
      +2

      So shops are somehow going to sting Queenslanders an extra $350 for a fridge, but not charge extra for those in other states?

      • wisdomtooth on 02/08/2023 - 16:20

        They can put them all up to RRP, and make sure that, for whatever sales they have in other states, that the specific models on sale they "don't have" stock in Qld. They already sorta do that with price matching/beating policies: they make sure no one else sells that specific model number. That Lenovo tablet Aldi was selling for $99 was nowhere else to be found, so JB said theirs was different, and they couldn't match Aldi's price.

        • frugalferret on 02/08/2023 - 16:42

          Price matching is totally different to this. There are plenty of products at Anaconda that they get the manufacturer to produce only for them with a unique product ID, like a special colour camelback bottle, a certain rod/reel combo, special spool length of fishing line braid, so that they don't need to price match competitors, because their items aren't exactly the same. The stock eligible for this rebate is already in warehouses ready to hit the showroom floors. Changing it's barcode doesn't make it a different product.

          I can't see places like appliances online having different prices for different states.

          Also, I very much doubt that JB hi-fi at Burleigh is going to jack their prices when you can drive 15 minutes south and get the same thing cheaper at Tweed.

          • wisdomtooth on 02/08/2023 - 17:39

            @frugalferret: So we agree on the price matching con.

            The stock eligible for this rebate is already in warehouses ready to hit the showroom floors.

            That's what I meant by the quotes in "don't have" in stock; they discount some models, not all, as usual, and hold back the discounted ones in Qld, only offering the ones at RRP, till they've milked the subsidy dry.

            I can't see places like appliances online having different prices for different states.

            They can't; it's probably illegal. But they can say they have no stock left of the discounted models in their Qld warehouses to deliver. Big W does it all the time. So does Bunnings. They can simply lie through their teeth, and who is gonna suspect anything? After all there's a govt subsidised buying frenzy on. And even if they do, what are they to do? Accuse the business of not wanting to sell its products? That's not illegal.

            Also, I very much doubt that JB hi-fi at Burleigh is going to jack their prices when you can drive 15 minutes south and get the same thing cheaper at Tweed.

            Why would JB Tweed not jack up their prices — i.e. remove the discounted models from stock, leaving only the RRP ones — and milk the Qld subsidy gravy train too??

            • frugalferret on 02/08/2023 - 19:24
              +2

              @wisdomtooth: Yeah I can see Gerry instructing all his Queensland stores to pretend that they don't have any discounted 4 star fridges in stock so that people in Qld pay full RRP. That might make sense if every retailer does the same thing, but all it takes is one retailer to advertise a fridge at a great price and they'll have hundreds of units running out the door making the same profit as before the rebate, while the rest charging RRP make a handful of sales.

              500 fridges with a $400 margin is much better than 50 fridges with a $700 margin.

  • Poor Ass on 01/08/2023 - 20:46

    To be eligible for the low-income additional component, individual applicants must meet the Low Income Tax Offset threshold as defined by the ATO.

    Anyone got a link to this?

  • wombat81 on 01/08/2023 - 22:15

    Can anyone give a ball park figure for the labour of getting a split system a/c replaced?

    • chb on 02/08/2023 - 08:08

      About 450 to do install, not removal of old one.

      • eek on 02/08/2023 - 13:01

        Try double that in Brisbane. $450 maybe 10 years ago to install a back-to-back split system AC under 5kw, tied into existing circuit.

        • chb on 02/08/2023 - 23:44
          +1

          That was brisbane lol

          Albeit maybe 2 years ago. Cash job of course.

          • eek on 04/08/2023 - 10:40

            @chb: Tradies at tax time: nah mate, "no cash here". Meanwhile, has a $150K Landcruiser with $50K of mods as a "work vehicle" and receives family tax benefit with a health care card :P

    • seamer on 04/09/2023 - 10:08

      A mate got rough quotes from TGG - Supposedly back to back installation for 5 kw would run $749 and a 3.5kw would likely run $699. Don't know how accurate quotes are as I know my sparky charges ~$900 for 5kw installation.

      • VlVh on 04/09/2023 - 10:35

        You will need to add another $150 if you installation is in a high set house. Source: had my 7.1kw install done by the Good Guys.

  • Poor Ass on 01/08/2023 - 22:50

    @ciab where you get this from "To be eligible for the low-income additional component, individual applicants must meet the Low Income Tax Offset threshold as defined by the ATO."?

  • Mad Max on 02/08/2023 - 00:39
    +1

    Very environmentally friendly policy!
    Replace perfectly working appliances that may be a little bit older with new ones that use a little bit less power. What about the enviromental cost of producing that new appliance?
    Same with EVs. Lets ditch all the good and working petrol cars to buy new environmentally friendly and fashionable EVs.
    In the so called "net 0" they never properly add the actual prodution environmental impact of the appliance or the EV.
    Pure consumerism. And someone is making big money out of the climate change cult.

    • johnno07 on 02/08/2023 - 07:22
      +6

      Was with you until

      climate change cult

      It's science fact that humans are rapidly changing our climate for the worse, and we should do something about it.

      Doing something about it, though, as you say, is likely not throwing away perfectly working fossil-fuel-powered consumer goods just for the sake of replacing them with something a bit more efficient.

      • Mad Max on 02/08/2023 - 15:20
        -1

        Climate is not changing rapidly. It is only the media and other government/private organisations with vested interest that make people believe that.
        There are naturally occurring climate changes that are not related to humans. Earth's climate has been changing all the time. Ice age was not caused by humans, but it happened.
        Pollution however is caused by humans and we should minimise it. That is not by making obsolete perfectly good items and replacing them with new ones that have required new resources to produce.
        Someone is making a lot of money out of climate change policies.
        And Australia is going to suffer the most by installing unreliable and costly wind and solar bought from overseas (mainly China) whilst shutting down very reliable and cheap coal and gas generation from Australia own resources.
        People will pay for it with ever increasing electricity cost.

        • datscheap on 02/08/2023 - 18:06
          +3

          I hope this is a troll post.

          • Mad Max on 02/08/2023 - 18:27
            -5

            @datscheap: Brainwashed

            • datscheap on 02/08/2023 - 21:08
              +4

              @Mad Max: Nah. I'm had 'cheap Chinese' panels for 18 years and haven't had a power bill the whole time.
              And now I have a ev I don't have to pay for fuel because of the panels.
              Yes I will have replace them at some point but I've got my $$ out of them 100 times over.
              Your welcome to keep buying your fuel imported from the middle east and Asia.

              • Mad Max on 03/08/2023 - 08:57
                +1

                @datscheap:

                I'm had 'cheap Chinese' panels for 18 years and haven't had a power bill the whole time.

                18 years? And you have been running your whole house for the whole time AND now your EV with them?
                Now we know you are lying.

                • datscheap on 03/08/2023 - 09:56
                  +2

                  @Mad Max: I still think your trolling. Most people with panels dont have a bill.

                  And yes, in the last 6 months since getting the EV,I have now after 18 years got a power bill of $300 for the quarter.
                  Altho I did save about $1000 in petrol (approx 500 litres fuel /5000km) over the same period ( we have teenagers and run them around alot).

                  If you dont do many kms upgrading to a ev atm isnt a great idea, but for us it is mostly paying for itself.

                  • Mad Max on 03/08/2023 - 10:16
                    +1

                    @datscheap: Not trolling mate. All people I know that installed solar panels had to replace the panels and/or the inverter within 7 years.
                    The only ones that are ahead are the ones that managed to get and retain the government subsidised FIT of about 50c/kwh. But the fact that the government is giving them taxpayers money to make it worth does not mean that it is a winner.

                    • wisdomtooth on 03/08/2023 - 10:20

                      @Mad Max:

                      But the fact that the government is giving them taxpayers money to make it worth does not mean that it is a winner.

                      Morally or financially?

                    • notauser on 26/08/2023 - 18:09

                      @Mad Max: I bought a system about a year ago and they've halfway paid for themselves. I don't know who you know but they must be particularly unlucky..

              • wisdomtooth on 03/08/2023 - 10:21

                @datscheap:

                I'm had 'cheap Chinese' panels for 18 years

                How much?

          • Mad Max on 03/08/2023 - 09:26

            @OzzyBrak: Is it true or did you see it in the ABC News?

        • chyawala on 04/09/2023 - 07:13

          Historically global warming has preceded increased CO2. Can you make reference to a citation of when increased CO2 has preceded global warming?

  • david6509 on 02/08/2023 - 01:18

    Im looking to move into a new place at the end of the year and plan on buying all new appliances. Would i be able to claim only one of the $300 rebates or could i claim all 4 for up too $1000?

    • Slo20 on 02/08/2023 - 04:07
      +1

      “Only one rebate will be available per household.”

    • wombat81 on 02/08/2023 - 13:27
      +1

      This rebate is only for replacing existing appliances, though. Not for purchasing new ones.

      • david6509 on 09/08/2023 - 10:25

        ive got the old ones in use still in my current rental situation, plan is not to bring them to the new place.

  • Arturo88 on 02/08/2023 - 10:40
    +1

    Emailed de Brenni,

    Eligible purchases will be those that have been purchased on or after the program open on the 4th of September.

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