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Microsoft Surface Pro 7+ 12.3" i5 128GB/8GB Platinum $678.30 ($662.34 w/ eBay Plus) Delivered @ Microsoft eBay

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Lowest price so far for the Surface Pro 7+ tablet. Great as a secondary device at this price point IMO.

Combine with eBay gift cards to get an even better deal.

Although physically similar to the Surface Pro 4/5/6/7, the 7+ has completely redesigned internals

Please kick off the discussion with limitations of 8GB Ram ;)

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  • +4

    any 16gb versions??

    • +1

      Laptop Studio $2099

      • +5

        no thanks

        • Hey homer, didn't you buy one a little while back?

  • +10

    Remember when we used to bitch about 4GB of RAM? Those were the dayz…

    • If 4GB on this kind of machine is a joke.

      • It's 8GB but being fanless is a bit of a drawback. Price is getting good however

    • +1

      4GB iPad 10th gen has entered the chat

    • +1

      128GB storage windows machine???

      • Eh I use cloud storage heavily and this would be fine as a daily device….if it had double the ram.

  • +2

    Nice

  • -2

    havent used surface before, hows quality of screen vs basic ipad.

    also find the ios really smooth, not sure if surface is like typical windows where you get lags.

    • +11

      typical windows where you get lags.

      It's not Windows itself, it's the hardware that you've been using.

      • https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/742180

        got this laptop, overall its fine but i find mac os a bit better overall.

        • +3

          That laptop should run well based on the specs.

          Either you are misusing the word lag, or you got a a dodgy one. Being a consumer HP laptop it could be overheating. I avoid them now for that reason.

          • -3

            @Aureus: its a gaming laptop but struggle to run cod ghost game from 2013.

    • Screen quality is excellent on Surface devices.

      Windows is a bit clunky on tablets, but Windows 11 is better in this regard compared to previous versions (debatable). There are still some settings hidden behind the old UI though.

      • +1

        They got rid of the swipe from left edge gesture to open the task view and replaced with the dumb widget sidebar in windows 11.

    • +3

      I guess it depends on the use case… I travel so the (lack of) weight is a big plus for me. I like to work quietly so being fanless works better. It's touchscreen and I can use the pen for signing documents, taking screenshots and pointing out corrections, playing team drawing games. It's inexpensive compared to the competing brand of the same level. And most importantly, I'm a Windows user.

      • +1

        Note in this model the pen is not included.

  • +1

    The PWM induced flicker of the screen on these is my only complaint.

    • It's very high which helps at 21000hz still not ideal, so hopefully most people won't be affected

      • +1

        The 7+ model has low frequency PWM (~200 Hz), I tried it out and it was very uncomfortable below 60%.
        Everything else about it was great.

        https://www.notebookcheck.net/Microsoft-Surface-Pro-7-Plus-i…

        • Oh yeah you're right 199hz under 57%, damn that is very low. I know I'd struggle too.

          • @Jmore1231: The strobing was very noticeable.
            If you wave your hand in front of the screen you would see hundreds of fingers.

            Above 60% the screen is brilliant, just a bit too bright for many situations.
            The speakers sounded surprisingly good.

            Could almost get me over the line.
            If only MS could fix it with firmware update, this would be a great bargain.

    • +2

      as someone who is PWM sensitive and was seriously considering this to replace my old Pro4.. thats freaking terrible. BAD MICROSOFT.

  • +5

    8GB is meh

    • +3

      8GB is mid.

    • +2

      8gb is mostly fine for desktop use

    • +1

      128GB is a sin.

    • Anything similar with more? Even historically to keep an eye on?

      Can be laptop too, just needs to be very light.

  • Anyone run GNU/Linux on these? How is it?

  • +7

    Bought one on last deal but end up returning it.
    This version is fanless design, it can run really hot on its back.
    8g ram is horrible.

    • -3

      You bought one knowing all this, and still complain?

    • Which SP version has a fan? Hard to believe it can fit a fan in such a small case

      • Only the i7 models have a fan. The rest have no fan and rely on passive cooling and throttling to control temps.

    • 8GB is barely ok, it'll simply kick over into the pagefile and eat into the SSDs endurance as it pages the disk for more "memory".

  • +29

    So many comments on insufficient ram…. what are you actually wanting to run if you need 16GB ram? It's a portable computer/tablet guys.

    I have a Pro5 with 8GB ram (fanless) and I use it whenever I travel for emails, MS office, streaming and web browsing - works flawlessly for last few years.

    Genuinely interested, don't want to start WW3.

    • Yesterday was the first time the limited ram became an issue for me. The device choked up when I was trying to analyze data in R. Datasets were only around 4gb, but as R holds everything in memory the device didn't have the headroom to handle it.

      I've been using the device on a daily basis and that was the first time I've had an issue with the 8gb of ram.

      Edit: I should also make the point that when trying to do the analysis it was running on battery and I was doing other tasks in the background (such as using google docs etc). So I wasn't making it easy for the device.

      • +1

        I gave up running R on my Surface. Switched to Hadoop. Works great on the surface RT.

    • +2

      Same here. Using the Pro5 with 8GB. Netflix, emails, office suite, browsing….no issue. Occasional lag but still considerable great speed for the age of it. Only thing made me want to get the 7+ is the battery very bad on the Pro5

    • +1

      My 8GB Surface Laptop 2 is still flawless with performance (I also have a Surface Pro 9).

      Can handle anything I throw at it and the only time it has choked up is with a ridiculously oversized 400GB file, our average is 10GB files.

      What are y'all using 16GB for?

      • +4

        So I can have 4 tabs of Chrome open?

        • +2

          My partner has 20 tabs open each on Chrome and Edge and Firefox at all times and it makes me cry but not his 8GB ram

          • +1

            @peppet: It was said in jest to poke fun at Chrome being a resource hog.

            • @Munki: As a completely computer illiterate person, I just Googled this and have just learned that Chrome is why my battery life is so goddam horrendous

              • @peppet: Yeah useing Firefox adds about an hour to my battery life.

          • @peppet: but yours is laptop, this is tablet model of surface. maybe that make the difference ?

    • -2

      8GB is usable for basic tasks like your examples and I guess you can't complain for a $662 tablet.

      If $662 was the RRP of a new 8GB tablet it would be fine, but at MS RRP price it is hard to justify only providing 8GB of RAM. 8GB is fine, until you run out.

      Surface Pros are nice, but they are a ripoff. Same business model as Apple unfortunately, but apple at least gives you a keyboard..

      • +1

        Apple also only give you a mobile OS

    • For me and having the i5 Surface Pro 3 with a fan… That device was go good and would simply spin up the fans when the work demanded it.

      My Pro 7 and the power throttling solution is garbage by comparison. Computers need fans

    • Using my Lenovo OEM desktop at work currently with 16GB of Memory and 10th Gen i5.

      Consuming Approx 9.9GB of RAM right now and am running my usual suite of apps:

      Windows 10 22H2

      MS Teams
      OneNote
      OneDrive
      Google Drive
      Outlook
      Word (2-3 docs open)
      Excel (3-4 Spreadsheets open)
      Chrome with about 5-6 Tabs

      I can definitely see how 8GB of Memory will be an issue for lots of people.
      I don't know the full ins and outs of Memory handling in windows 10+

      • +2

        Yeah, I suspect I'm an outlier here.

        I don't have a lot of programs/tabs etc open at the same time as I prefer to minimize clutter.

        ¯_(ツ)_/¯

      • +1

        I have Outlook, VS 2022, Word, Chrome - 20 tabs, MS teams on 32gb, and it's currently using 19gb.

        • 👌

      • My laptop has been running 4 days and chrome alone with 81 things is using 6.6GB, 3 separate youtube tabs are over 600mb each

        Having said that I loved my 8gb surface pro 4 and would love to have one of these laying around

      • Windows uses a pagefile for extra memory so expect it to eat into the SSDs endurance a little.

    • +2

      what are you actually wanting to run if you need 16GB ram?

      Lightroom.

    • +1

      I have a 7year old MacBook Pro with 8GB RAM. I mostly use it for coding, rendering HTML templates, other web development stuff. Never had I experienced lag or choking in the lifetime of this product. You only need morethan 8GB if you’re rendering 4k videos or maybe for the gamers.. I guess. But these days FOMO plays a big part at everything.

    • 8GB ram is fine but 128GB storage is just stupid for a Windows machine.

    • So I work in IT, which might sound like I have heavy usage but what it really means is all my computation is mostly offloaded to servers, alot of web portals, ssh use (mobaxterm).

      Unfortunately, 8GB alone just doesn't cut it. By the time I have my remote access tools open, a few ssh terminals (very low memory usage) and some tabs open with my helpdesk, rmm etc etc I'm well outside of 8GB.

      Modern web browsing is a pig on memory.

      I don't sell anything with less than 16GB ram even for basic office users as they will inevitably complain.

  • +4

    You can upgrade the SSD. Just need to purchase a M.2 M-Key PCIe 4x4 NVMe 2230 SSD.

    • The SP8 and beyond use a different SSD right? The pricier, rarer type? If so, this SP7 is pretty appealing

      • +1

        They all use the same type of SSD. M.2 2230.

        Just check compatibility before purchasing though, certain models can cause BSOD crashes.
        e.g. Some peope are having issues with WD SN530 drives.

        • Do they perform better with faster SSDs? I might be able to settle for 8GB if there are benefits to be had with respect to responsiveness.

        • Ah, I mixed it up with the 2280, which was in my SP4 and that I repurposed later. I see for the SP6 and SP7 they soldered it in, so this Plus model is a return to letting users swap it out.

    • 2230 is rare as in very limited choice.

  • +1

    Any thoughts on using these as a touchscreen pos device?
    Does it essentially run Windows the way our 5 year old current desktops do (they only have 8gb ram, 6th gen i5) ?

    • +1

      It is only a low power mobile CPU i5-1135g7 (U Series 28W TDP) but 11th gen. Cursory benchmarks suggest it generally matches pretty well (closely) against a 6th gen desktop i5 (6500 - 65W TDP).

      If using as always on/plugged in pos device - you'd probably want to enable the battery saver feature (prevents charging over 50% to prolong life) in UEFI.

      • Except when it heat throttles…

        • true, definitely a thing with no fan. depends how resource intensive these particular pos tools are…

  • The massive black borders don't do it for me
    Surface 8/9 looks dice.

  • +6

    mother f*****s .bought one for school a month ago and paid $1400.

  • $662 for this is pretty good - bonus if you already have the keyboard from an older SP4/5/6/7.

    And if you want a bigger SSD you can swap it on your own

  • Can the Steam Deck runs windows?
    If so, I probably get a Steam Deck and connect it to monitor.

  • Do you think eBay will have a 20% sale again?

  • -3

    16gb a bare minimum just saying

  • Is it easy to change the battery or best to dispose off before it comes to that

  • Great price but wow have these dropped in value quickly.. I know tech degrades fast but this was $1000 only 6 months ago.

    • Unless it changed in the 7, the battery is almost impossible to replace, and you end up junking the entire thing.

  • +1
    • +2

      Saw one comment saying they "bought this in 2019" but it's only been out since 2021. Reckon there'd be quite a few comments from people who've just bought any old version of the Surface

    • -2

      I've got a feeling a lot of Apple users and Apple staff put up a lot of those bad reviews

  • Can the surface pro 6 keyboard and stylus work with it?

    • yes it will

  • +1

    Holds the value, purchased 2 years ago for $850, sold last month for $500!
    Can't be more happy with Microsoft.

  • -1

    price is good! but I don't need a tablet pc…

  • What's this like as a media only device? Ie use for travelling on planes. Seems like the battery life on the device is pretty limited but seems to have quite a nice screen …

    • -1

      Battery life is good on this device.

      • like 8 hours watching mkv ? (offline files, saved inside, playing with vlc)

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